The Syndicate

I think this game nosedived the moment I sat down and said "I think NAA is the best fake green check for me." =P

To see if I could bait to confirm the other wolf.

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

I was going to try baiting other people by making them think I got a red somewhere else.

He is absolutely fpsing and it's annoying.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:44 pm @EnderWiggin

If you're the cop just out your check before this gets screwed up.

If you check my earlier posts in this thread I said "Thumb/Finger/Touch"

Softing fingersplints red.

I'm going to point out that NAA hasn't even voted me despite me being "confirmed" mafia from his perspective. He's FPSing because he's concerned about the night kill.

NAA, I know you're town, please stop this.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:22 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:30 pm I will say later today what result was. But I'm just gonna keep it under my thumb for now.
Why?
Because outing redchecks ruins people's reactions.

I want to see everyone enter thread.
Fair enough.

Do you have a fixed idea of what you think you might accomplish? No need to answer in the thread, just curious about what you're expecting to get out of this.

Yes. I have a fixed idea.

I will explain later on that too.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:38 pm TBH, when I saw Mac flip, I thought this was just a play to live one extra day via fake claim. So the red check is pretty surprising, but I'm curious to see how this plays.

I half suspect this is what people are trying to make it out to be but leaving me uncced doesn't actually accomplish that so idk what's going on.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:22 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:30 pm I will say later today what result was. But I'm just gonna keep it under my thumb for now.
Why?

Because outing redchecks ruins people's reactions.

I want to see everyone enter thread.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:52 pm I should claim a fake greencheck next time this situation happens.

Because I'm guaranteed to live for at least one night I can make scum kill someone wrong. (Although if I fake greencheck a scum I guess that doesn't work.)
Could've just done it on me after seeing what I was doing.

Look. This is entirely something I'm realising right now so too late. =P

I actually think I can effectively win this game today but we'll see.

Anyway I have things to get back to.

That's assuming they do a play where they kill the greencheck and not me which is already still a weird line but anyway.

I should claim a fake greencheck next time this situation happens.

Because I'm guaranteed to live for at least one night I can make scum kill someone wrong. (Although if I fake greencheck a scum I guess that doesn't work.)

Actually, I can model a reason that I didn't get hit.

But it's not a great line. It's just a different brand of play. Don't want to give them ideas if they did fuck up and miss my claim tho

That being said, despite not checking you I kinda don't think you'd drive this kind play as wolf LC. You've had your finger on the pulse too much.

I will say later today what result was. But I'm just gonna keep it under my thumb for now.

I don't have a green check. I kinda want to not touch the check itself. I'm reading back as I'm thinking. Also don't want to give away who I picked because that might give scumteam a clue.

I mean I guess I'm not complaining but also what.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:59 pm Y'all should move too, this is a much better chance than Falcon IMO.

Nah I don't think so.

Thoughts are that Porscha probably town for the catchup.

Mac probably town for the way he treated my slot.

Seanzie probably town because idk if wolf Seanzie just skips D1, never really seen him do that. Also I feel like wolf Seanzie would've shown up for EOD1 given he was a wagon

Fingers decent town because of the mindmelds

I had one MR townping but idk if that's actually that good anymore.

LC is probably paranoia but please look at him closely.

Falcon I wanna say has to be wolf with the above reasoning + greencheck.

If Falcon is self-sac then I cry for this game.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.
What?

Self sac veggie will die instead of me tonight.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:47 pm I'll answer it for y'all because I'm annoyed.

I'm cop. Good job wagoning the Cabbage Cop.

NAA, congrats on being the NK after me because you're greenchecked.
Why in the blue fuck do you check him?

Because he annoys me and I prefer to know whether or not he's on my side? That way I don't have to untangle his ball of whatever the fuck he's doing.

I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.

Oh cool, people are around.

If I die to votes I swear.

Whose scum? Idfk. I'd like to put Falcon back on because his wagon disintegrating overnight is bothering me but I also haven't read shit this morning.

I'll answer it for y'all because I'm annoyed.

I'm cop. Good job wagoning the Cabbage Cop.

NAA, congrats on being the NK after me because you're greenchecked.

Can any of you guess why?

The answer is why this wagon is the most annoying thing this game.

I do however know NAA is town.

Good job on wagon choices though. Stellar. I don't know Mac is town but I'm pretty sure and I know I'm town.

Well I'm a serious wagon now Mac. =P

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:06 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:01 pm Well this is spiffy. How the hell did it end up at Mac and me.
Mac and you? What votecount are you reading?

The one where a lot of people have 1 vote and I have 2 and you have 3?

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine Just to get my vote off my vanity from last night.

I have shit going on, can't backread rn. Will be online again in 20-30ish to try and work out what the fresh hell happened when I wasn't able to pay attention.

Well this is spiffy. How the hell did it end up at Mac and me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 am I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.
I think it's absolutely wolfy enough but this gamestate doesn't feel like wolf top wagon.
Okay how often have you been right about Falcon wolf? How often have you scumread town Falcon? @falcon45ca you also comment here.

Also can you actually articulate how Falcon is actually being wolfy that isn't just Falcon's default way of being? Because my biggest problem with this read outside of the fact that too many people have it too easily, is that Falcon just looks like same old Falcon.
I have often townread falcon when others have wolfread him.

That being said there has been a few cases I've been wrong on town!falcon.

But also, town falcon tends to be more fluid with earlygame accusations and pushes and he will probe instead of sitting on one person. I am also not the only person to point this out, when I first mentioned it earlier in this thread someone agreed with my thoughts on it. I forget who and it's past midnight and I'm too tired to check so myeh.

I don't believe I'm a particularly bad reader of Falcon. I like to think I've done pretty well reading him in the past.
I don't see how his early game accusations were not fluid, whatever you mean by that, but suffice to say Falcon was immediately pushed for bad reasons by someone I find scummy so it's very easy for me to excuse him for being a bit more firm in his pushing. He was given a glaring target that nobody but me seems to agree with him on.

I mean, from the perspective that it's me or MR then Falcon probably is clear, so I can appreciate that.

I just don't agree with that. =P

That being said, stagnant gamestate so pushy buttons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 am I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.
I think it's absolutely wolfy enough but this gamestate doesn't feel like wolf top wagon.
Okay how often have you been right about Falcon wolf? How often have you scumread town Falcon? @falcon45ca you also comment here.

Also can you actually articulate how Falcon is actually being wolfy that isn't just Falcon's default way of being? Because my biggest problem with this read outside of the fact that too many people have it too easily, is that Falcon just looks like same old Falcon.

I have often townread falcon when others have wolfread him.

That being said there has been a few cases I've been wrong on town!falcon.

But also, town falcon tends to be more fluid with earlygame accusations and pushes and he will probe instead of sitting on one person. I am also not the only person to point this out, when I first mentioned it earlier in this thread someone agreed with my thoughts on it. I forget who and it's past midnight and I'm too tired to check so myeh.

I don't believe I'm a particularly bad reader of Falcon. I like to think I've done pretty well reading him in the past.

I am gonna re-dive my meta stuff but I'm feeling a little more confident now about [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine and this gamestate is stagnant so shake-a-the-things-up

I actually am thinking more and more this is despondant wolf!LC. He falls off on D2/D3 when he isn't really putting in an effort. He can also do so after some bad games (I remember him falling off as town in Smilies for instance), but the weird vote swapping plus disengagement = IF Falcon/MR are town then LC has to be wolf

If Falcon is town, then Seanzie is the only one on this wagon that could be wolf probably?

In which case it'd have to be something like Seanzie/MR or Seanzie/LC.

But if it isn't then it means we have pure wagon on town which immediately says MR is also town.

Fingers also gets the vibe townread. I mentioned that earlier.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 am I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.

I think it's absolutely wolfy enough but this gamestate doesn't feel like wolf top wagon.

And by "Now firmly" I mean I re-read from daystart and realised I was just right about NAA but anyway.

Porscha and NAA are probably the most standout town right now for me on catchup.

Porscha for obvious reasons and NAA because this is now firmly in their town meta.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:18 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:10 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:09 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:03 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:02 pm I barely vote as mafia in general.

I have a weird feeling about something.
I'm not going to lie, I actually don't remember your vote habits at all.

Just feels like your vote changes are really weird.
I'm also probably feeling off right now because my confidence is shot. Like I don't feel great at all.
Just come off a bad game?
I've been playing in Forum/Fortress of Lies while I was banned...so multiple.

Alexa please play "Cell Block Tango"

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:09 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:03 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:02 pm I barely vote as mafia in general.

I have a weird feeling about something.
I'm not going to lie, I actually don't remember your vote habits at all.

Just feels like your vote changes are really weird.
I'm also probably feeling off right now because my confidence is shot. Like I don't feel great at all.

Just come off a bad game?

Honestly the fact that my dumb read of NAA town feels like it's right is probably one of my stronger reads atm.

I did like MR's EOD, though, which makes me feel like I'm re-evalling MR due to pressure of Mac + the not great response. :/

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