The Syndicate

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

Has there been a votecount recently?

HERE IT IS: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... ydelicious

Username was UglyDelicious back then

I have only wolfed a handfull of times, if that

Seer game: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... ydelicious

wolf games: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... ydelicious

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... ydelicious

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... ydelicious

there is another game i was a wolf with montecore and fanmail but I can't seem to find it. >.< gimme a minute

not iso-ing, for finding games.

sorry i was just trying to reread d1 to see if I could see anything from Nanook or Syn.

uhh I can try, POG is not easy for iso-ing

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:51 am We don't lose if it's Esooa. I don't think it is Esooa but my mech strategy should allocate for that world too.

If it's Esooa, she deserves a mafia goddess title. Feel like her partners could be anyone? Maybe Gavial/???? -- but I guess if it is Esooa we still have the Nanook Check.

Has there been a post count recently? Similar situation as last time, I can be around from like 10:30-11:30 but I've got class in ten minutes

Sorry I'm here

I think atp sleeping is probably the better option, mostly because my wolf reads aren't wanting to and then I can JK Nanook? I'm not sure what that does. I feel like out of Nanook/Esooa we lose if it is Esooa, and I can't think of any wolf partners for Esooa, but the team for Nanook is pretty obvious Syn/Mac.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:17 pm Syn, you're making snide remarks too tbh

I'm just not even sure what I've said that is snide

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm you keep making snide remarks like that but from what I can tell the game is proceeding apace just fine and without complication from personality

dude I feel like you're gaslighting and it's a bit much, just chill out, it is a game, there is no reason to be rude.

FYI I’m playing in a few other games elsewhere, and modding a game. I get it that I suck, but I’m checking in here as often as I can. I appreciate not being trolled for trying.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:01 pmcool lurking, Deli

Excuse me?

Syn

is

a

wolf

Everyone all game is just ignoring them wtf

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:57 pm If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Ok let’s not cross that bridge, what’s the plan when I flip town? Cause I’m pretty convinced we’re on the collision course for losing if we lunch me here

It makes sense if you think you can line up the MLs to win… like you want us to go Marmot/creature in some order and if one flips town we still lunch the other?

How many mislunches do we even have left? Of creature/marmot are t/t do we still have a shot?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:22 pm deli, if you are a wolf this game you did pretty well at getting me to town read you tbh

I’m not and I feel like I fucked up somehow pretty major

Kami/Mac v/w makes a lot of sense too tbh

Nanook trying to set up two mislunches makes it 0% surprising that Mac comes in pushing Marmot -_-

Nanook/Mac/?
Syn not afraid to push mac ig, more like he isn't a busser?

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo
interesting

I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that

when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"

I've pushed mac hard because he is wolfy af, but when someone's avatar is "mafia god" and everyone who has played with them is afraid to push them, yeah I feel like that's a person who could open wolf and get away with it

It isn't me, and I'm fairly certain Marmot is village. You saying gavial makes me clear them.

Who is Seth?

I've only been playing forum mafia for less than a year, and it's mostly been with the same 12-30ish people on POG lol

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:42 pm How many games have you played with Mac, Deli?

I've never played a game with Mac, unless he was in a big mash on pog and I'm not recalling him.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:38 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate
this does not pass the basic logic sniff test

it made sense to me at the time

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance
That's what I felt too.

"oh shit I'm alive" yeah a fucking joyous entry, wtaf is going on.

Nanook/Syn/Creature probably the wolf team, possibly Nanook/Mac/? would make sense since we're getting railroaded.

I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

tbh this doesn't feel cool to me, and I'm not sure how you get that vibe. Some FPS is happening here and we're getting rocked.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli

Dab

I believe Esooa, you however, I don't believe. If true, it makes sense the way you've played it but I have a really hard time believing Esooa claims with no pressure there

oh shit I'm still alive? thought for sure I was obviously going to be the NK :O

catching up now

Ok, well I have to go back to work now. Gl us. Kinda alarmed thread is silent and hk/syn/falcon are not moving off. I'm sorry for playing bad

gl us.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

I think the VC is off.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:04 am
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:01 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:59 am
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:59 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:58 am I really just want to know if falcon is ccing deli or not
Falcon is not CCing me
I mean he immediately voted you after you claimed so

Idk why you'd assume that
Because I know my role ldo what is this?

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine
And he can't be mafia ccing because...?

If I were falcon and I were mafia I'd at least strongly consider it

Ok, fair point. I didn't think of that, sorry, I obviously don't have the firmest grip on how this roleset plays out

I'm voting HK/Nanook/Falcon for these reacts fwiw. Not sure how many posts I have left, so conserving them for votes.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:59 am
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:59 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:58 am I really just want to know if falcon is ccing deli or not
Falcon is not CCing me
I mean he immediately voted you after you claimed so

Idk why you'd assume that

Because I know my role ldo what is this?

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:58 am I really just want to know if falcon is ccing deli or not

Falcon is not CCing me

This is the most ridiculously complicated 13er of my life

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:56 am wolves know which role is not in the game

How?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:48 am Yes, but you're saying that the person she protected is possible scum when they should probably be cleared in that world.

Well it’s not so clear cut to me. I guess I need to claim because I won’t be here EOD.

I’m the JK. I JK’d Mac last night. This is why I came in voting him when there was no death, I thought for sure he was a wolf and I’d been the one to prevent the NK. Then Esooa claimed, and I realized my role actually would have protected Mac had he been the NK, although I still think that is unlikely and he is a wolf. Wiml could have been doctored against nothing, so I can’t clear him, Esooa has no incentive to claim there unless she believes she stopped the NK via doctoring. Anyway sorry guys I feel like I played it really bad and this is a new setup for me, I should have read the roles more carefully and understood.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:45 am
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:14 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.
who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?
I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

Esooa claims that she protected Wiml last night. Syn claimed it's a lie. In that world, how are Wiml and Syn scum, but esooa isn't?

Esooa made a believable claim in a towny way, and wouldn’t the real doctor cc if she is lying?

Am I the lunch?

Yo I got the job, stress over, here until 11:35am est

Syn is objectively anti-town but I don’t think a wolf comes in and plays like this.

I’m not sure if lunching Mac today is the right move for reasons I will claim in the morning if necessary. I think probably Falcon makes the most sense. I don’t want to lunch gavial but I think it’s just because they’re like one of the few people reading me correctly and I need more support with villagers like syn and hk just gamethrowing :/

What’s sad is Syn made a bad read d1, didn’t stop to think about the game setup, and has just tunneled ever since. Is this a wolf trying to seem consistent or a villager who consistently plays anti-town?

Yeeted* not tested

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:06 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:29 pm falcon is still mafia. I have nothing else to say

oh well, I also am here to say igno is bussing him
I need to go back and read or you can just explain the case a little more, and who is their third?

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:18 pm Falcon > nook for lunch, but nook hasn’t really actually done /anything/, wolfy or otherwise iirc so

Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:06 pm @Esooa is Kami mafia?
RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime
Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?
i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.

Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon

tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

I want to yeet this read progression. Reading back to Day 1, Deli had a lot to say about a number of different players, though very little to say about falcon. Regardless, falcon became Deli's top scumread when Deli made a list with the reasoning of "falcon had wolfy posts".

Deli wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:29 am [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I’m happy to go falcon, can we just make sure we are not tie-ing up the wagons? Like someone move from igno please

His vote came at a time when falcon was ahead 4-2-2 over igno and Wiml. The thing that bothers me about this post is the Deli seems more interested in breaking a tie here than yeeting falcon over Wiml or igno. What I'm reading in the tone in this post is that Deli didn't care who was yeeted.

All of this is true. I thought falcon had wolfy posts, and seemed like a viable wagon. People were discussing igno, who I was TRing, and I voted falcon to distance the wagons. D1 “yeets” aren’t something I get incredibly attached to and care a lot about unless I think I’ve found an outted wolf. That didn’t happen this game, I thought I had a wolfy player and a wagon I wouldn’t feel bad about. I didn’t want igno tested but I also am reluctant to captain d1 and take charge because my reads can be bad and then I feel responsible for villager bloodshed.

I’m multitabling and not following here closely currently, if this is a viable wagon please be present at 11am when I’m able to post. I will not be here 25 minutes out of eod and will miss eod.

oh so we can post more than 50 posts but our votes don't count? that's nice

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:21 pm Then Mac decides to OMGUS vote Kami in the poll knowing the vote wouldn’t count which makes me scum read them even more.

[VOTE: Mac Dongull] aubergine

That’s not scummy tho

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:55 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:14 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.
who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?
I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.
I don't think I can call falcons tone today townie at all. He's asked a few questions but for the most part that's all he's been doing. It looks like good work but until he starts analyzing answers (and I'm not sure he's gotten them but also doesn't look like he's following them up or re-asking) I'm not sure that he's actually doing townie things.
Someone stopped the kill from happening last night, we know that to be true.

What we don't know is who was the NK target and who saved them. Esooa claims to have saved Wiml from the NK, Syn says that's a lie, but Syn also isn't ccing Esooa. I still believe Syn to be townie, even with the way he's clearly fucking around today.
I don't think Creature has been wolfy at all, I don't really get why people are wolf reading him.

Mac is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in a soft burrito blanket. That is to say he's playing like Mac. Some trolling, some reads, and nothing you can take to a bank.

Marmot eh I guess? you know what you did marmot but really I don't see marmot wolf here either.

Gavial always seems like a chop to go for, I've had that thought a couple games now as both alignments. Definitely want to see more "solve" and less "I'm So RaNdOm" from him today.

Wiml is an interesting case. Only wiml and the wolves know for sure if he was the NK target or not. Even Esooa can't be 100% positive b/c he could have been JK even if she is the doctor.
I like his tone, and he's been doing some solving/making reads, so that's good.

this is the first good post I've seen from you all game. lifts my morale a little bit ty

I think falcon coming in and asking questions after being the counter wagon to a villa was towny. I guess the lack of solving/analyzing is concerning, could be light anti-spew ? since he is 100% in the poe unless something mechanical happens.

Creature is a skilled wolf, he's wolf almost every recent game I've played with him (sorry I know you hate meta). It takes me some time to clear him, and so far I have not seen any reason to. Solid poe for me.

Mac.

Marmot is certainly not for lunch today, but I'd say d1 was +ev imo, today has been much less compelling.

Gavial. lmao "I'm So RaNdOm" perfectly encapsulates this person's posting. Never not chopping this salad.

Wiml. " Even Esooa can't be 100% positive b/c he could have been JK even if she is the doctor."
We know the night kill or the 'night killer' could have also been JK'd, we know that to be true. Feels like you are assuming wiml was the NK in the bolded? ...

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anyways....

time to hit the gym. bbl.

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