The Syndicate

Thanks for having me everyone

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:44 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:33 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:19 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:14 am

Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.
Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad
So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.
You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum
act, bunny, ?

who fits?
I have to read through interaction s to see what fits but Gnome would be my third on top of act or you and bunny rigjt now.
Some players have read both of us as scum. This continuing shade would seem to indicate that we are not teamed as scum. Only one of us could be mafia or neither one of us is mafia. Right now, I think that it is most likely that we are both just town.

But I don't get this, would indicate we are not teamed as scum? I already know we aren't because I'm town, why don't you know that

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:36 am @Sloonei I think my preferred shot is Act now.

Do you think that the dayvig is fake

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:33 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:19 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:14 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:13 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:03 am

Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.
But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me
Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.
Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad
So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.
You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum
act, bunny, ?

who fits?

I have to read through interaction s to see what fits but Gnome would be my third on top of act or you and bunny rigjt now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:19 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:14 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:13 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:58 am

Bunny is dead. Why should we care about your bad vibes here? Are you suggesting we yeet bunny?
how is this suspicious at all...
Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.
But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me
Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.
Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad
So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.

You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:18 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:07 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 am @Actvscenei am I mafia?
I don’t know, are you?
You’re not interested in sorting me. You’re interested in serving big helpings of question casserole to provide the appearance of sorting.
Actually this is something I noticed about act that they ask a million questions but then said they don't make reads lists which I found very strange because it's almost like they want to create the impression that they are solving with all the questions and using the questions yo build fake reads which don't even exist in any firm. I don't think town solving would involve adding all these questions and then refusing to provide reads list but also I don't know act
Reads lists are WIFOM and easily fabricated. What isn’t easily fabricated is game interaction. Want to know my leans? Read the game, not a reads list.

Having q concrete and easily referenced read list is pro town. Why do all the hard work and then make it more difficult for town to benefit from unless you want to create the image of solving while maintaining some ambiguity towards your actual stance s I don't like that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:14 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:13 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:58 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:55 am Bad bunny says I do not have many posts and should be left to be alivr but actually I have a lot of posts this feels like they're trying to get on the right side of defending me for when I flip town I'm getting q bad vibe
Bunny is dead. Why should we care about your bad vibes here? Are you suggesting we yeet bunny?
how is this suspicious at all...
Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.
But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me
Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.

Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad

Actually I only have over 50 posts I thought it was more but that is still a lot of content

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:58 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:55 am Bad bunny says I do not have many posts and should be left to be alivr but actually I have a lot of posts this feels like they're trying to get on the right side of defending me for when I flip town I'm getting q bad vibe
Bunny is dead. Why should we care about your bad vibes here? Are you suggesting we yeet bunny?
how is this suspicious at all...
Because I get the sense that Orange is grasping rather than actually scum hunting.

But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:07 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:59 am @Actvscenei am I mafia?
I don’t know, are you?
You’re not interested in sorting me. You’re interested in serving big helpings of question casserole to provide the appearance of sorting.

Actually this is something I noticed about act that they ask a million questions but then said they don't make reads lists which I found very strange because it's almost like they want to create the impression that they are solving with all the questions and using the questions yo build fake reads which don't even exist in any firm. I don't think town solving would involve adding all these questions and then refusing to provide reads list but also I don't know act

[VOTE: vote: MacDougal ] aubergine

Bad bunny says I do not have many posts and should be left to be alivr but actually I have a lot of posts this feels like they're trying to get on the right side of defending me for when I flip town I'm getting q bad vibe

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 10:45 pm @orangecrush I am currently leaning towards using my shot on you. You are not allowed to say that you want me to do this. If you are town, shooting you ensures a town death. Please give me a better name to pick than yours.

Sorry, I just think there is good sense to it, especially as I don't want people to waste time on me, also I understand many people here haven't played with me and will find me hard to clear as town on play

If you need a better name I'd just point you toward my reads so far

Gnome or Mac or maybe Martin as if Martin can be confirmed town healer it would help us with Alisom also

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:51 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:45 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:38 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:31 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 pm
lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks
I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game
You say you understand why people are voting you. Why do you think people are voting you?
The games I have played I have been able to make people know I am town but these games I have been caught up and this game I know I'm still not even half way through the thread and I've been trying to catch up but I've also been busy , I was wrong about hawk being scum which sucks too and look bad but the things I have noticed and pointed out are things I hope are considered because I have died early last few games and it is very frustrating seeing things and not being able to point them out
Okay, here are the problems I’m seeing with this post...I asked you why you thought people were voting you because you made the statement that you understood why people are doing that. Instead of answering the question, you’ve used this as a chance to appeal to emotions. Nothing here actually answers the question and it’s a very political response. I didn’t ask you about how busy you’ve been or your frustration level this game.

You did mention a wrong read about Hawk. Am I to assume that’s why you think people are voting you? Because you read Hawk wrong?
No actually it is the fact that the poor grasp I have on the game currently is not enabling me to offer as much as I feel like I'm usually able to. I keep seeing things mentioned in the thread that I had no knowledge of happe ING and are things that would be sure to sffect my reads

The hawk read I had didn't help though, but I know it's OK to be wrong about things too

Can someone explain what is a desperado
A desperado is a role that in the day phase, they target someone. If their target is mafia, their target dies. If their target is town, the desperado dies. It is a variation on the vigilante roll.

So it mitigates the loss if the shot goes wrong, I think if I'm the most suspicious player then it makes sense to use it on me because that way it solves me for people and I can continue to help the town. It wouldn't be optimal to use it on me as I not mafia but I don't think it would be unhelpful

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:45 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:38 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:31 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?
lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks
I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game
You say you understand why people are voting you. Why do you think people are voting you?
The games I have played I have been able to make people know I am town but these games I have been caught up and this game I know I'm still not even half way through the thread and I've been trying to catch up but I've also been busy , I was wrong about hawk being scum which sucks too and look bad but the things I have noticed and pointed out are things I hope are considered because I have died early last few games and it is very frustrating seeing things and not being able to point them out
Okay, here are the problems I’m seeing with this post...I asked you why you thought people were voting you because you made the statement that you understood why people are doing that. Instead of answering the question, you’ve used this as a chance to appeal to emotions. Nothing here actually answers the question and it’s a very political response. I didn’t ask you about how busy you’ve been or your frustration level this game.

You did mention a wrong read about Hawk. Am I to assume that’s why you think people are voting you? Because you read Hawk wrong?

No actually it is the fact that the poor grasp I have on the game currently is not enabling me to offer as much as I feel like I'm usually able to. I keep seeing things mentioned in the thread that I had no knowledge of happe ING and are things that would be sure to sffect my reads

The hawk read I had didn't help though, but I know it's OK to be wrong about things too

Can someone explain what is a desperado

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:31 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?
lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks
I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game
You say you understand why people are voting you. Why do you think people are voting you?

The games I have played I have been able to make people know I am town but these games I have been caught up and this game I know I'm still not even half way through the thread and I've been trying to catch up but I've also been busy , I was wrong about hawk being scum which sucks too and look bad but the things I have noticed and pointed out are things I hope are considered because I have died early last few games and it is very frustrating seeing things and not being able to point them out

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?
lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks

I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:09 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:03 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:52 pm This is a fun thread and I am enjoying myself
Only an hour of fun left!
I doubt I get nked
who do you think might get nked?
Me, JJJ, Sloonei.

Off chance: Alison, Tangy, Actv.
thank u

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:09 pm To answer your actual question im not gonna openly speculate on the nk lol
ok no problem

If we think Dana died protecting a kill that would probably mean at least 1 town in this three

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:43 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:23 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:20 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm

vote me then
What was your case on Dana?
I had a fake red check on her
^ more anti-town play
your definition of anti-town is hilar
Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?
I didn't really fake red check her.

Trying to be light hearted isn't shit posting.

Try again.

Uh you yourself called it shit posting

Try again

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:34 pm @orangecrush is the red check on me real?

It would be dumb to fake a check right now I'd say so probably real unless something happened but I wouldn't rule that out, like I said I thought you were town on your early play before the red check . Alison said she had a redirect so we should wait to see if they used jt

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:23 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:20 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 pm Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts
vote me then
What was your case on Dana?
I had a fake red check on her
^ more anti-town play
your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:00 pm guillos claim is very fake
o rly y that mac
as if guillo holsters a cop check til now
I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

What if you had dies and wasted an important role by not using the shot

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:20 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 pm Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts
vote me then
What was your case on Dana?
I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 pm Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts
vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:10 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 pm Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts
I don’t think you’ve been inactive.

Ok I'm glad to hear that I just couldn't log in for two day , how do you think of Guillotine? On your play I have had you as likely town so I am a little surprised about the results they have

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:02 pm @orangecrush since you're here, would you mind listing out some townreads/scumreads you have as of where you're at right now? Explanations are welcome but not necessary. It will just help give us some content to read you off of.
im town reading Act, Dana, Guil, Tangrowth

town lean for Jay and Martin and Sloonei

scum reading Gnome and Mac

scum lean on Hawk

can elaborate on any you wish just ask

also Seansie i am town reading you i have felt good about our interactions up to now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:20 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm “hoping im missing something” is a ping
i am hoping that i a missing something becaues i dont think your suggestion that this was tmi is very good at all. this seems like you are just shading someone for having a ready that is diferent to other but actually that is often a towny thing to do as scum doesn't want to be standing out like that.
It was an accusation destined to become meaningless the moment Owner flipped. That has no actual value as “shade” if I am mafia.

You’re shading me though, and at an opportune time given the recent flavor of the game.

OC is mafia.

im not shading you at all, im directly adressiyou with a concern over a post you made, where is shade?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:02 pm @orangecrush since you're here, would you mind listing out some townreads/scumreads you have as of where you're at right now? Explanations are welcome but not necessary. It will just help give us some content to read you off of.

im town reading Act, Dana, Guil, Tangrowth

town lean for Jay and Martin and Sloonei

scum reading Gnome and Mac

scum lean on Hawk

can elaborate on any you wish just ask

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm “hoping im missing something” is a ping

i am hoping that i a missing something becaues i dont think your suggestion that this was tmi is very good at all. this seems like you are just shading someone for having a ready that is diferent to other but actually that is often a towny thing to do as scum doesn't want to be standing out like that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:11 am Feedback requested:

Is lost monkey's read on Owner TMI

what is the TMI this seems kinda weak if its what i think it is so hoping im missing something

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:33 am Owner is town here for me. Scum owner wouldn't play in a way its get her lynched this easily. She is being too blunt and too shady to be scum here.

can you elaborate on this read you had of Owner please with some examples?

apologis if you already did this im just quoting as i read up now

so far about 1/3 of the way in i think jagged and alison have both been generous and show good conviciton in the town reads they have made. i thik they are being more generous with town reads than scum would be because scum is better off keeping the poe wider for themselves. I think this is a good sign that both are town

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:08 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:57 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:44 am @orangecrush, how does it feel to be wolfin' for the first time? Are you enjoying it?
hi seanzie, actually i am town this game but i am looking forward to playing as scum once i have been having some success as town but getting cv3ery frustrated about being killed aafter making good reads and not being able to continue the games . i was very disapointed with how last game went after i was kille
If it helps, the N1 kill is usually an honor saved for the best players in the game. You were killed because you were extremely good. I know it is frustrating watching from the sidelines afterwards, but you should take that kill as a complement, especially since you haven't played much yet.

You played Among Us a lot before joining us on MafC, right? How would you play scum on there? What would people look for to catch you (in the social deduction parts of the game, not like... the they saw you murder someone parts)?
actually with the frined group i've played with i have been told i can be more sociall awkwartd and quieter as an imposter. basically im not very good at hidingnervesd as an imposter because while it is fun it is very nervewracking in my opinion. im much more vocal and say what i think when right away as crewmate

also thank you for the kind words
Are you still catching up? If so, how far are you?

Also, I just looked through your ISO. You've mentioned Mac a few times. Can you elaborate there?

still catching up im at page 30 or so but actually ive been flipping back between current and old stuf rather than focussing on the entire readback

im glad you asked because you actually playted the high noon game that the majority of my read on mac is based upon. my read on solvis was a lot to do with the way they carried themselves in the thread in a way that was not only annoying but obstructive to town's solving process. This is something that I consider to be extremely anti-town and something mac has almost gleefully and openly admitted to doing. I will perhaps concede that there is some recency success bias here in that i was able to see solvis flip town and my read was proven, it is therefore something i am quite confident in right now and at this stage of my readback would make him someone i deeply consider to be worth looking at further

actually as i said im flipping current and past stuff right now and ive barely even seen anything from mac recently, i wonder if its something to do with the light being on hawk right now and them wanting to avoid interactions.

im gonna try and catch up more now anyway ive been so busy today

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:15 pm Ok yah. Hawk is outed scum but it looks like she decided to out to distract from something, sort of "it's better they catch me now than my teammate" vibes.

Right now, townies who are great at anti-spew should pay attention to what Hawk has to say.

you are from mafia cafe rigbht? in your experience is hawk likely to spew when they are scum, i know there are some players that are very cautious and will not post at all , waht ywould you expect from hawk if they are scum

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:57 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:44 am @orangecrush, how does it feel to be wolfin' for the first time? Are you enjoying it?
hi seanzie, actually i am town this game but i am looking forward to playing as scum once i have been having some success as town but getting cv3ery frustrated about being killed aafter making good reads and not being able to continue the games . i was very disapointed with how last game went after i was kille
If it helps, the N1 kill is usually an honor saved for the best players in the game. You were killed because you were extremely good. I know it is frustrating watching from the sidelines afterwards, but you should take that kill as a complement, especially since you haven't played much yet.

You played Among Us a lot before joining us on MafC, right? How would you play scum on there? What would people look for to catch you (in the social deduction parts of the game, not like... the they saw you murder someone parts)?

actually with the frined group i've played with i have been told i can be more sociall awkwartd and quieter as an imposter. basically im not very good at hidingnervesd as an imposter because while it is fun it is very nervewracking in my opinion. im much more vocal and say what i think when right away as crewmate

also thank you for the kind words

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:44 am @orangecrush, how does it feel to be wolfin' for the first time? Are you enjoying it?

hi seanzie, actually i am town this game but i am looking forward to playing as scum once i have been having some success as town but getting cv3ery frustrated about being killed aafter making good reads and not being able to continue the games . i was very disapointed with how last game went after i was kille

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:43 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:20 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am @orangecrush do you townread or do you scumread Alison?
if you look at the read klist i posted when i joined you will see that I have alison listed in my town column as a lesser town read, this is still the case. they have made some posts that i agreed with (had the same thoughts as) you can refer to my chart if you need to see which ones, the reason the town read is slightly lesser is that they made one TMI-ish psot which is also referenced in my chart if you go take a look, this one stood out to me. I have definitely been following the more recent discussions about other TMI possibilities in Alisons game so far. however my gut is that they are town just because of our thoughts being very similar and knowing im town i think the thought process for her being similar to my is encouraging
Ok.Do you think it is likely for a scum!Healer to try to heal Town!Alison?

it's hard for me to answer because i don't know good of a player alison is. if they are a very strong player and i was scum and they were not my teammate then i would probably not want to heal them. however being able to claim that heal obviously has a very genrerous potential up side, especially so if alison is a good town player. to answer your question i would say it is unlikely but there are reasons it is not a bad idea and therefore it is possible

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:42 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:25 am
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:03 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:01 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:56 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am Garden Gnome looked like softing lost wolf.
How?
Because she is trying to FIND her love here?

@Garden Gnome why do you think that we as town cannot identify players with TMI?
I think that Orange claimed TMI where it didn't exist. Orange comes across as biased and more interested in proving her point that I am scum than in actually reading me and finding out my alignment.
i dont think this is fair as i am only a quarter of the game caught up and you know this, let me catch up and let my reads evolve
I think that it is fair because you keep calling me scum, rather than saying that I'm in a PoE, which is not the same thing at all. Also, I did tell you earlier that reading me based on my day one posts didn't work very well because of my high level of confusion. I feel that you are just continuing in the same path of trying to prove that I am scum rather than read my posts with an open mind.

you're acting like i am tunelling you which isn't the case. You are one of a few people that i am suspecting and i was asked a question specifically about you which is what i was answering

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:03 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:01 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:56 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am Garden Gnome looked like softing lost wolf.
How?
Because she is trying to FIND her love here?

@Garden Gnome why do you think that we as town cannot identify players with TMI?
I think that Orange claimed TMI where it didn't exist. Orange comes across as biased and more interested in proving her point that I am scum than in actually reading me and finding out my alignment.

i dont think this is fair as i am only a quarter of the game caught up and you know this, let me catch up and let my reads evolve

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am @orangecrush do you townread or do you scumread Alison?

if you look at the read klist i posted when i joined you will see that I have alison listed in my town column as a lesser town read, this is still the case. they have made some posts that i agreed with (had the same thoughts as) you can refer to my chart if you need to see which ones, the reason the town read is slightly lesser is that they made one TMI-ish psot which is also referenced in my chart if you go take a look, this one stood out to me. I have definitely been following the more recent discussions about other TMI possibilities in Alisons game so far. however my gut is that they are town just because of our thoughts being very similar and knowing im town i think the thought process for her being similar to my is encouraging

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:47 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them
I appreciate your initial efforts, OC. Can you recall a couple examples off hand of these, maybe one for each of hawk and Gnome?

hawkataine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!
This post Concerned me but also I get the impression that's just the gavial vibe lmao
i haaate post like this first of all. its things i really dont like and use to identify scum in on tightly rolled up short post and thats slight shade by expressing concern over a player but not running wiht it (maybe hoping someone else will), followed by immediete backtreacking in that theyre expreissing concern and immedeietly reasoning with it which ultimately leads me to what is the point of this post other than being filler (pointsless post because it was clearly a joke andt the point is immediegely withdrawnbut the post is still posted) shade withoit the need forownership.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.
I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.
Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.
I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?
this post came in the middst of a lot of people trying to make real headway in the game and just stuck out like a sore thumb to me because it obviously leaned deeply into flavor and seeme d to want to toy with peoples emotions. The post itsself didn't serve any real progress in terms of progressing the game . i have adressed my read on gnome and her difficult getting into the game and am assured their play will pick up the more i read , gnome felt very concerned about my read of them which also stuck my as alittle suspicious and tmiish.

ill continue to try and get through content today anyway and see if it changes where im at
The way that you interpret my posts is very interesting, although you seem to be biased toward scum reading me. I think that you've already made up your mind, and you're just looking for some sort of reason to call me scum. That being said, I am reading you as town, despite your comment about "suspicious and tmi." Like how would you know that anything that I said was tmi, if you were town? But I think that you are attempting, in a short sighted way, to solve the game. Your read of me is way off, but that, too, is towny.

I also think that martin is scum. I read his iso (which might be where the claims of tmi are coming from), and the tone reading of martin is how I felt when I posted. My opinion has not changed. I was asked a "gun to head" question, which I answered.

So the same question for you: gun to head, who is more likely to be scum, Martin or Hawkataine?

Hawk would be more likely to me as I have seen more things to make me doubt they are town

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:40 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:36 am Hawk should be given the opportunity to save LC st least and then we can deal with them tomorrow if push comes to shove. I don't think it's the right thing to lynch them today and there are other suspects I think that worthy of consideration , and a lot of time too
The opportunity to save me comes before the yeet is complete. Ideally, Hawk has already saved me.

Oh I see, in which case letting her do that would not actually pay off In a way that helps us to solve the slot until we know see your flip and know if you're town or not

Hawk should be given the opportunity to save LC st least and then we can deal with them tomorrow if push comes to shove. I don't think it's the right thing to lynch them today and there are other suspects I think that worthy of consideration , and a lot of time too

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:20 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:34 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:08 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:07 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:58 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times
Did you see my post to Hawk? I asked her some questions and brought up some things that don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of my concerns?
I think they think they wasted a shot because Alison was already healed by Martin so they both healed the same person which would mean one shot was wasted.

But then instead of saying that it kind of looks like they think they wasted a shot because they were roleblocked but I don't think that would affect a day action lol

So it's all a bit confusiong and doesn't really make sense as an entire post

I do agree a shot was wasted though if both targeted Alison
Do you think both healers are town aligned?
as 2 and 1 shot i find it unlikely. if both were 1 shot i could see it but that doesnt seem to be the case here. i am leaning towards believing seanszie ttheory atm
What is the seanzie theory, remind me please. @orangecrush

That both are in fact one shot but Hawk had to claim two shot because they need to have a shot to prove today and of they'd claimed 1 shot they would have had to answer why they did not save Alison with the shot which is harder to do than just claim 2 shot

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:08 am
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:07 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:58 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times
Did you see my post to Hawk? I asked her some questions and brought up some things that don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of my concerns?
I think they think they wasted a shot because Alison was already healed by Martin so they both healed the same person which would mean one shot was wasted.

But then instead of saying that it kind of looks like they think they wasted a shot because they were roleblocked but I don't think that would affect a day action lol

So it's all a bit confusiong and doesn't really make sense as an entire post

I do agree a shot was wasted though if both targeted Alison
Do you think both healers are town aligned?

as 2 and 1 shot i find it unlikely. if both were 1 shot i could see it but that doesnt seem to be the case here. i am leaning towards believing seanszie ttheory atm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them
I appreciate your initial efforts, OC. Can you recall a couple examples off hand of these, maybe one for each of hawk and Gnome?

hawkataine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!
This post Concerned me but also I get the impression that's just the gavial vibe lmao

i haaate post like this first of all. its things i really dont like and use to identify scum in on tightly rolled up short post and thats slight shade by expressing concern over a player but not running wiht it (maybe hoping someone else will), followed by immediete backtreacking in that theyre expreissing concern and immedeietly reasoning with it which ultimately leads me to what is the point of this post other than being filler (pointsless post because it was clearly a joke andt the point is immediegely withdrawnbut the post is still posted) shade withoit the need forownership.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.
I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.
Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.
I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?

this post came in the middst of a lot of people trying to make real headway in the game and just stuck out like a sore thumb to me because it obviously leaned deeply into flavor and seeme d to want to toy with peoples emotions. The post itsself didn't serve any real progress in terms of progressing the game . i have adressed my read on gnome and her difficult getting into the game and am assured their play will pick up the more i read , gnome felt very concerned about my read of them which also stuck my as alittle suspicious and tmiish.

ill continue to try and get through content today anyway and see if it changes where im at

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:34 pm Oh, so like... probably... Hawk is actually a mafia 1-shot healer, and didn't use their shot yesterday on Alison so they still have it, and thought they might be able to clear themselves by healing LC today, but then if Hawk claimed 1-shot healer, there would have been serious questions about why he still had a shot left, so they had to claim 2-shot.

Just saw this and it actually makes a lot of sense to me in regard to my doubt about the shot discrepancy

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:58 pm
orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times
Did you see my post to Hawk? I asked her some questions and brought up some things that don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of my concerns?

I think they think they wasted a shot because Alison was already healed by Martin so they both healed the same person which would mean one shot was wasted.

But then instead of saying that it kind of looks like they think they wasted a shot because they were roleblocked but I don't think that would affect a day action lol

So it's all a bit confusiong and doesn't really make sense as an entire post

I do agree a shot was wasted though if both targeted Alison

I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times

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