The Syndicate

And thanks hosts for hosting.

GG Everyone!!!
112 did a good job getting exiled d1!
Fun to play with you all! I'll likely return after my champs game is over!

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:06 am
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:03 am
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:02 am

What!? Again just not answering?
Where is the question?
You really had nothing to say about the traitor strategy for this gamestate??
The traitor strategy for this gamestate is to be KZA or lose the game.
The goal is to get too being the KZA and chopping everyone ekse like it’s your factional kill along the way.
Sparky. I do not give a fuck if I am first to die as long as Wiml and KZA are in the f3. Literally. Zero fucks.
YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE THIS YOURSELF NO MATTER WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE/TOWN AS A WHOLE MAKES THAT DECISION NOT JUST YOU.

Says the one pinging the host to end the game.

Sparks is very much in a tunnel on mac tho, lol

I have Creature as top town but that's maybe dumb?

KZA is fair to have there. Wiml too but his wolf range is large.

Mac is prob town too.

Long Con, TSP and Sparks have felt towny at some point but the wolf could be there.

Gira is a null who others seems to town read.

I'm not that good at reading you either mac, although I am leaning you town. I'm at a loss on who the last wolf is though, which is a given, considering the situation. I have a thought on how I could catch them but I'm currently not willing to put in the effort.

I guess poison was town then >.>

One vote from maj let's gooooo

Poison is as much in the PoE as anyone else yes, the green check means nothing at this point. Have marmot shared his other (three?) checks yet?

I want to flip marmot because that was obviously a slip :wowee:

Anyway I agree with locking both Creature and KZA as town.

Someone mentioned the anticop being able to reverse a anticopping
Is this confirmed true or did this someone slip?

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am I think odds are the last traitor is just somebody who is suddenly absent like Poison.

Exactly. Absent from thread or absent from solving.

Poison is a fine yeet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:22 pm my reads have been good so just chop 112 next

@112 what ya doin?

TSP is the new 112!

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:00 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:00 pmHYPE
Accepting my easy town clear gg.

GG

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:55 pm I feel bad for the last traitor lol. 95% of the time they're probably just slowly waiting out a game that is close to unwinnable.

Which means all we have to do is HYPE UP and we'll smoke the last one out!

Wisdom wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:40 pm is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something
Polls are broken because host hasn't changed them.

@Gavial

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:40 pm is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something

Polls are broken because host hasn't changed them.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:10 pm ok do i just not know how day phases work around here

Phases are not working and there are no night phases this game.
But welcome!

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:43 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:38 pm I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac
To be fair too TSP, atleast he tried lol.

He’s still in my POE but yea i’d yeet Mac/Gira/KZA probably all over him tbhtbh

I'd switch KZA with him but Gira->Mac->TSP is probably my order of preference.

I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac

Yeah I think what's slowing this game down is the host being busy rather than we needing to talk.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:55 am
Wisdom wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:52 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:13 am Lmao.

Yeah we just need one town we are willing to bet the game on and we win.

If the anti-cop is alive still then red peeks are probably semi-clearing now?
I'm not gonna accept the auto-run sorry.

The anti cop is confirmed alive, as host said they would flip anti cop when dead, and as long as they have used their ability on themselves (which I am willing to bet on) our cop can clear people.

Sure, the only thing that keeps me from wanting to go auto is the cop checks, but still. I think marmot got two checks now that he hasn't shared?
Yeah I'm not in support of the auto for the same reason. Mostly just some fast hammers.

Yes!

Hammers go brrrrr

Wisdom wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:53 am
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:43 am Yea solving was just annoying, wasn’t a setup i’d play again tbh. I did like the cop strategy element to it all but needs a full makeover tbhtbh
The setup is broken but I am all in for experimenting with setups as long as everything is on the table from the beginning.

Which it has been in this game, so, it's fine

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:43 am Yea solving was just annoying, wasn’t a setup i’d play again tbh. I did like the cop strategy element to it all but needs a full makeover tbhtbh

The setup is broken but I am all in for experimenting with setups as long as everything is on the table from the beginning.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:13 am Lmao.

Yeah we just need one town we are willing to bet the game on and we win.

If the anti-cop is alive still then red peeks are probably semi-clearing now?

I'm not gonna accept the auto-run sorry.

The anti cop is confirmed alive, as host said they would flip anti cop when dead, and as long as they have used their ability on themselves (which I am willing to bet on) our cop can clear people.

Sure, the only thing that keeps me from wanting to go auto is the cop checks, but still. I think marmot got two checks now that he hasn't shared?

I think
Gira
Or Mac
Is the last one

We should be able to find them through marmot's peeks and lack of something to solve.

Wooop

I want marmot's peeks before voting aimlessly. As I said, every redcheck is a likely town clear by now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:47 pm There's a chance that we yeet 5 townies in a row, let's not lock this game in yet.

Still doesn't lose us the game though.

And anti cop likely targeted themselves and they're the big baddie right now, but if we manage to kill the last ordinary wolf then all redchecks from marmot are basically greenchecks.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:29 pm What are flips?

Two wolf gone, one town.

marmot is cop

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:26 pm What’s going on in this game

Setup being very townsided and pretty much no proper way of reading people, so, it's quite chill.
Welcome regardless!

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:17 pm How is KZA derpcleared?

Genuine reaction to being falsely red checked and put a lot of effort in to do reads before dying, as wolf him would have known he was screwed.

Rip Awut

If you're wolf, then I caught you before you caught Murphy
If you're town, then good job catching Murphy

I'm not

Gonna have a break for another two weeks and this is about as much as I'm going to allow myself to play during said break

HUZZAH THE GAME IS EVEN CLOSER TO AUTO

...

And marmot's peeks actually means something

If we manage to at least punt the not anti cop then every red check henceforth should be a town clear because there is literally NO WAY the anti cop hasn't targeted themself by now

Thing is there's basically no way for us to find the anti cop due to being a lost wolf

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:36 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:25 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:22 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:21 pm Okay let's treat marmot as an innocent child instead then.
I'm starting to understand the plan Mac made.

I'm never killing marmot and Creature. I need one more town before I can lock this in.
KZA.

Just see how they reacted to Marmot fakeclaiming a red check on them D2.
I'll buy it.

So let's kill Long Con, Auwt, Mac, Sparks, TSP, Wiml, Poison then. Preferably in that order.
Where would u place yourself OBJECTIVELY in this list?

Before Poison I guess

Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:25 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:22 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:21 pm Okay let's treat marmot as an innocent child instead then.
I'm starting to understand the plan Mac made.

I'm never killing marmot and Creature. I need one more town before I can lock this in.
KZA.

Just see how they reacted to Marmot fakeclaiming a red check on them D2.
I'll buy it.

So let's kill Long Con, Auwt, Mac, Sparks, TSP, Wiml, Poison then. Preferably in that order.

Put Gira somewhere in the middle.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:22 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:21 pm Okay let's treat marmot as an innocent child instead then.
I'm starting to understand the plan Mac made.

I'm never killing marmot and Creature. I need one more town before I can lock this in.
KZA.

Just see how they reacted to Marmot fakeclaiming a red check on them D2.

I'll buy it.

So let's kill Long Con, Auwt, Mac, Sparks, TSP, Wiml, Poison then. Preferably in that order.

Okay let's treat marmot as an innocent child instead then.
I'm starting to understand the plan Mac made.

I'm never killing marmot and Creature. I need one more town before I can lock this in.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:18 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:15 pm So - Wait, how many yeets do we have?

There are 12 players left

As it it, wolves win when there are 4 players left, two wolves and two town

Means we got 7 safe yeets left, and 7 peeks.

So if we find 3 townies, the game is auto.
With this in mind, I believe the anti cop would have ALWAYS targeted themself if that's possible.
The other wolf has little to no chance to survive, as 7 peeks and 7 yeets will always make sure they die as long as we don't kill our green checks.

So we have to hunt down the anti cop, that's the big thing that's keeping us from going auto. And the peeks are unlikely going to help. And the anti cop will optimally have tried to figure out the other wolves similar to a villagers PoV. Which makes them really hard to hunt down.
Cop peeks are no longer as reliable right now. The anticop effect is permanent instead of lasting only a day. There's a chance the non-anticop traitor may already be anticopped. Even if they're not, there are more false red checks than true red checks.

Right. Then the anticopped of course started with fixing themself and everything else is pretty unreliable.

Did someone clarify if the anti cop shenanigans are permanent?

So - Wait, how many yeets do we have?

There are 12 players left

As it it, wolves win when there are 4 players left, two wolves and two town

Means we got 7 safe yeets left, and 7 peeks.

So if we find 3 townies, the game is auto.
With this in mind, I believe the anti cop would have ALWAYS targeted themself if that's possible.
The other wolf has little to no chance to survive, as 7 peeks and 7 yeets will always make sure they die as long as we don't kill our green checks.

So we have to hunt down the anti cop, that's the big thing that's keeping us from going auto. And the peeks are unlikely going to help. And the anti cop will optimally have tried to figure out the other wolves similar to a villagers PoV. Which makes them really hard to hunt down.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:02 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:00 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:00 pm I don’t agree with ne sending Mac despite catching Falcon. He basically allowed KGM to post scummy nonsense sbd get away with it despite wantibg to take a no BS aapriach, we probably let a traitor go to exile tbh.
doesn't matter as long we don't exile the same player
Are we sure about this?

Two out of four wolves are dead without being exiled, so yes. If everyone gets exiled once, that's exactly 2 wolf exiles.

Hey, TonyStarkPrime, welcome! Didn't see you there!
TLDR is you won't be exiled and wolves can't win the exile victory as soon as we don't exile someone who's been exiled already (=You, Poison, Mac)

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:47 pm Just push whoever you think is traitor. When Marmot votes someone we just all move there.

Fair enough

Marmot give us results before I vote

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