The Syndicate

so there's always one wolf in [marluxion, vulgard] yeah? also vulgards last long rant was on c4 and spf specifically vulgard had said dya is either a wolf kamikaze-ing for alison or their posting is so unbelievably bad on alison that it wraps around to v he talks about SPF and C4 a lot after that, ...

Chloe I think Chloe completely dodging the thread for ten hours (ten hours that were dominated by a probable V/V thunderdome) is not great and her mindset w.r.t. Alison yesterday is also not great (like not that she would never be busy for ten hours but it's the ten hours directly following SoD) i ...

whatever
we dont even have to go vulgard today
there are two other wolves, three if vulgard is somehow town

i want to talk to chloe and i want dyachei to talk more because they've been extremely quiet other than just hopping on whatever bandwagon was going today without even giving their thougths

Believe me I would rather live in the universe where vulgard is a villager I dont want this any more than you do It just doesn't make any mechanical sense there are like 3 different explanations that have been floated - wolves didn't expect to be tracked correctly by amy - wolves figured amy might ...

like
I guess the kill could have been on vulgard and then they fished for a roleblock to try to stop the jailkeeper? For ??????? reasons?
but that play is so unbelievably bad that it just makes absolutely no sense

Believe me
I would rather live in the universe where vulgard is a villager
I dont want this any more than you do

It just doesn't make any mechanical sense

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 4:00 am marl continuing to play up the "waaaaaaaaa i got pocketed in neighbor chat, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal" schtick doesn't feel genuine

if you dont think i've been genuine today, you wouldn't know genuine if you got ran over by a truck hauling 40 tons of genuine

i miss chloe where'd she go

- marl fpses a claim in neighbor chat baiting vul into claiming jk - marl nks vulgard - kill doesn't go through - marl acts surprised at sod that theyre both alive which..?? it's like a "wooo vul isnt maf who tricked me" but the perspective seems off for that somehow. this is big thonk tb...

i just realized the way we ended our neighborhood chat should look so UNBELIEVABLY bad for me from vulgard's pov and he hasn't even brought it up I ended asking him for his legacy and put a hard emphasis on the possibility of him dying lmfao from vulgards PoV that should have set off red flags imme...

also vulgards last long rant was on c4 and spf specifically vulgard had said dya is either a wolf kamikaze-ing for alison or their posting is so unbelievably bad on alison that it wraps around to v he talks about SPF and C4 a lot after that, going through the possibilities of each being w he says v/...

i just realized the way we ended our neighborhood chat should look so UNBELIEVABLY bad for me from vulgard's pov and he hasn't even brought it up I ended asking him for his legacy and put a hard emphasis on the possibility of him dying lmfao from vulgards PoV that should have set off red flags immed...

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:47 am I retract my townread on Marl for not even considering I am telling the truth.

Going to backread real quick.

Mechanics do not lie
silver tongued people who attempt to pocket me using my own damn neighborhood chat do

Vulgard like The ONLY mechanical qualm i have is why wouldn't two seperate people execute the kill and roleblock putting both on one just has this risk happen? if ONE person roleblocks amy and the OTHER executes a kill Wolves never end in this scenario Either the roleblock on amy goes through or th...

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:41 am So you're convinced vul is a wolf marl?

i am, nothing else makes any sense
like
even remotely

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:30 am Hmm. Expecting Amy to be blocked from the jailkeep is theoretically viable

Vulgards still a weird kind of kill, but now that you mention it it is a possibility

It's definitely not what I'd have done as a wolf though

There are no other targets to roleblock. It's not viable at all imo

okay so I have another theory this theory is probably even dumber than the last theory wolves killed Vulgard for ... reasons, probably a mix of 'thinking he was the jailkeeper' (tbc this isn't shade on Marl, he hasn't done anything that spewed himself VT so he would have been in the PR pool) + 'him...

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:18 am @Marluxion can you clarify a bit about the c4 conversation/do you acknowledge you may have misinterpreted it?

Let me get out of bed and I'll transcribe and paraphrase the entire chat

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:14 am Vulgard is bleeding town right now

and I have no idea what happened last night because no possibility makes mechanical sense unless the wolves are completely incompetent

Nobody living in this game is incompetent

in post number one, vulgard asks me a pointed question about whether or not i am still shielding c4 in post number two, vulgard says that he understands why people want to turboyeet dya, but that there's something "else" he wants to discuss first. this is clearly implying that vulgard has...

Arete you're going to get yourself mld if you are actually town. if Vulgard is somehow a wolf here that was going to happen no matter what I said today like it's not like people would be like 'oh, well, Arete spent two days explaining how their godread on Vulgard made him town, but that's okay, bec...

Arete you're going to get yourself mld if you are actually town. Stop and wait for Vulgard to post more if you're actually convinced he's town

Amy wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:52 pm man i didn't spend 20 minutes making that gif to get completely stonewalled

It was funny

Real jailkeeper**
Same thing

my initial thought was "vul trying to get marl to out as jk on c4 red check once the day started means that c4 isn't a wolf. vul knew they were 100% outed (my thinking was they thought c4 was jk so they were trying to get marl to claim it, c4 counters, we kill c4, then marl, then hate ourselve...

It is also possible Vulgard was trying to say that dya was his redcheck when he said he didn't think I needed to say anything (as dya was already being wagoned.)

my initial thought was "vul trying to get marl to out as jk on c4 red check once the day started means that c4 isn't a wolf. vul knew they were 100% outed (my thinking was they thought c4 was jk so they were trying to get marl to claim it, c4 counters, we kill c4, then marl, then hate ourselve...

I don't know if it was his intention to get me to claim for him or if it was just to get me to push c4

Vulgard didn't con me into fake claiming for him I did that of my own volition since he had claimed jk to me last night and he was hinting at c4 being red with his posts today

I can't wait to see chloes reaction to this clusterfuck lmao

Arete is in the first stage of grief

Or they're a wolf with vul and want to go down together

One or the other

in a world where vulgard/c4 are wolves, what was vulgard's endgame w/guiltying c4 and making marl claim it for him? it would make sense to me if vulgard intended for c4 to flip villager and then for marl to get chopped the next day for fakeclaiming a guilty but if c4 is a wolf, what does vulgard ga...

He was surprised sunbae was near the bottom of my PoE
I'll go more in detail when I wake up but I'm 4 hours past bedtime rn

Arete I don't want to be pocketed any more than you do

It's literally his only suspicion he rambled on at length last night

@Arete

How could Vulgard be the real roleblocker and sunbae be fake if in order for sunbae to be fake, Vulgard's target would have had to be fake too? Think, Arete, Think!

@Arete if Vulgard was the jailkeeper he would have targeted c4 from our conversation last night

Meaning sunbae, if a wolf, would know this information was correct. Your theory doesn't check out.

@Vulgard I just need to know why
Why put in so much effort into the mason chat

ok so this is a really dumb theory and if Vul is somehow a wolf then saying it is super minus EV because it just tells him what to fakeclaim but if Sunbae is a wolf who carried the kill he would have TMI that Marl is faking (since he would know that c4 didn't carry the kill) and TMI that the real j...

sunbae wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:13 pm also aretes obviously a wolf if vulgard is so just mow em both down

Wait
If arete is a wolf I'm going to be fully tilted

It's like my ideal wolfteam but they forgot to send me an invite to the team

I'm not really sure why Sunbae is trying to 1-v-1 Marl here when c4 is already outed but that sure is a thing that's happening, I guess? pretty sure vulgard baited him into claiming to throw shade at the day and out me but my hands are tied and i cant let the day be spent clearing vulgard and casin...

ehhhh i think ima skip the whole song and dance because wolves know this is wrong counter vulgards a wolf WAIT WHAT i am the jailkeeper i roleblocked vulgard because i could tell this game was going poorly and that the god read player not caring one bit about being wrong was sketch + they were the ...

pretty sure vulgard baited him into claiming to throw shade at the day and out me but my hands are tied and i cant let the day be spent clearing vulgard and casing c4 Okay so I fake claimed jk to him at night And then when he had a townyish reaction I outed that my claim was an fps to try to bait t...

sunbae wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:06 pm ehhhh i think ima skip the whole song and dance because wolves know this is wrong

counter
vulgards a wolf

WAIT WHAT

bronana locktown more like congress of bad meta reads amirite dya's posts today are so flat and make me think w/w but they've got plenty of time to prove otherwise marl, did you tell vul who you were targeting? Hinted at it near the end of the night but didn't outright say just in case he was wolfing

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:00 pm
Marluxion wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:59 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:58 pm Who tf would kill me though

I mean dya obviously but they need a hell of a weird team to justify that
It'd have to be like exactly dya plus two deepwolves yeah
Except if there's a deepwolf I'm just about the furthest person from catching them

How so?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:58 pm Who tf would kill me though

I mean dya obviously but they need a hell of a weird team to justify that

It'd have to be like exactly dya plus two deepwolves yeah

i viscerally dont want that report to be real because i am extremely frustrated that i let myself get pocketed so easily if that's the case but if it is real, then c4 is a wolf, yeah I mean there are non zero worlds in which the kill was on c4. It's just I'm having a really hard time seeing them ATM

Arete wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:55 pm @Marluxion

am I reading you correctly that you claimed to Vul in your neighborhood

he was already clear but if he can be extra clear that's cool too

I didn't plan to at first but I decided to after he wrote me a novel full of reads

In terms c4 can understand...

Checkmate.

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