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braindead take:Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:34 pm
you seem like a wolf
i’m pretty happy with my vote, actuallyDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:32 pm Wait lol, Hally and SPF are voting what used to be a 4 post Gavial. LOL
@Hally @staypositivefriend I'm going to crush your dreams if any or both of you are mafia and I get to ever read this game. Terrible votes!
brain says the list has all the wolves but my heart says that has to be way way way too easy
Absolutely not, play all you wantDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:57 pmAre you unhappy about that?
I'm doing playing. I'm not doing a lot of reading. It's the reading I find insufferable at this point. Not that you all aren't great writers.
For someone who's first post said they are going to refuse to play you sure are doing a lot of playingDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:48 pmMy wolf range is huge. It's been said that I don't even have a range, but of course, that isn't true.Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:18 pm I lean V on Dizzy after some consideration. I think a wolf doesn't break the flow of the thread like this just to brag that they won't play the game. Re: their LOUD BOMBASTIC ENTRANCE where they DECLARE they will NOT play. Re: their LOUD BOMBASTIC ENTRANCE where they DECLARE they will NOT play. People call this type of thing wolf WIFOM but I've never actually seen someone like this flip W.
I don't actually know Dizzy's wolfrange, but I wouldn't expect this "maneuver" from any wolf. You can invite people to yeet you without breaking threadflow and magnetizing attention. Wolf!Dizzy wouldn't pop into the thread just to scream "yeet me" and shitpost. In fact, there's even a comparison to be made when you look at KZA's entrance. I brought this up earlier. KZA's entrance is the type of "shitpost wahaha I may or may not care about this game" posting I'd expect from a wolf. Rather than what Dizzy did.
Arete latching onto Dizzy and considering a yeet there, especially calling it "policy..." Rubs me the wrong way. Sure, if Dizzy's a wolf playing like this, losing to it would suck, but this shouldn't be v!Arete's first thought. This feels more like pointing a finger and calling attention. "Hey guys, there's this one dude who posted stuff about wanting to get killed. Maybe we should do it somewhere down the line, idk." It's a very subtle suggestion and I think it's very wolfy.
Since it's one wolfy thing in a string of passable posts by Arete, I'm still content not tunneling them to the death. But this isn't the way of thinking I expected from v!Rete.
That said, I have hardly ever had low effort in my wolf games, at least not in years. However, I have had low effort as town.
This is probably because I often feel I would be the strongest or one of the strongest wolves in a given team.
However RNG decided to rand the game, I know there are strong town here.
I'm also a decent town player, though town is a much harder alignment to play well as imo.
I think I could play like this as wolf.
I don't necessarily plan to "play like this" forever. But I'm very tired right now.
I got a similar vibe from DizzyVulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:18 pm I lean V on Dizzy after some consideration. I think a wolf doesn't break the flow of the thread like this just to brag that they won't play the game. Re: their LOUD BOMBASTIC ENTRANCE where they DECLARE they will NOT play. Re: their LOUD BOMBASTIC ENTRANCE where they DECLARE they will NOT play. People call this type of thing wolf WIFOM but I've never actually seen someone like this flip W.
I don't actually know Dizzy's wolfrange, but I wouldn't expect this "maneuver" from any wolf. You can invite people to yeet you without breaking threadflow and magnetizing attention. Wolf!Dizzy wouldn't pop into the thread just to scream "yeet me" and shitpost. In fact, there's even a comparison to be made when you look at KZA's entrance. I brought this up earlier. KZA's entrance is the type of "shitpost wahaha I may or may not care about this game" posting I'd expect from a wolf. Rather than what Dizzy did.
Arete latching onto Dizzy and considering a yeet there, especially calling it "policy..." Rubs me the wrong way. Sure, if Dizzy's a wolf playing like this, losing to it would suck, but this shouldn't be v!Arete's first thought. This feels more like pointing a finger and calling attention. "Hey guys, there's this one dude who posted stuff about wanting to get killed. Maybe we should do it somewhere down the line, idk." It's a very subtle suggestion and I think it's very wolfy.
Since it's one wolfy thing in a string of passable posts by Arete, I'm still content not tunneling them to the death. But this isn't the way of thinking I expected from v!Rete.
it's a memestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:15 pmdo you think his posts are town-indicative, or is this a meme
why tf is the d lowercase
sheep me, me strongDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:06 am @Tangrowth You are in this game! I love you! I must ask for your assistance. While you have found enthusiasm in returning to mafia, I am completely burned out. Somehow, I want to see if there is any way I can still play and be useful. Do you have any ideas? I thought of maybe vote according to dog name theory, because that was proven effective in GoC.
If I were to sheep one person in this game, who should it be in your opinion?
Sincerely,
Dizzy.
how dare you abuse the sacred tellArete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:34 amshe doesn't do it every game, IIRC she didn't do it in the Champs finale although I could be misremembering? definitely at least one of the champs games she was in
my brain thinks that her posting a lot and being solvy is villagery but on a rational level I don't actually think she's done anything unfakeable.
Marluxion wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:23 amyou mrr'dArete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:00 amI already mentioned this but I don't like Hally's ~page 1
people keep telling me this is a dumb read and they would do it as both alignments but I don't remember doing that in any of the village games we've had together
also Marl is a villager
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also I thought about it and Vul is like almost certainly a villager but the reason why is really dumb and also super exploitable if I tell him
I'm honestly unsure if it's unethical for me to not tell him and thereby allow his wolf game to be worse but it's not something he would always do as town, just something that I'm pretty sure he would only do as town
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the what now
probably
Vulgard is town hell yeahVulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:01 am I might be demanding too much from Hally, but last time I played with them they 400 posted on day 1 (I know this is a light game). Another key thing is that I was paranoid about them the whole game. I recognized her contributions as towny in a vacuum, but still couldn't shake off the feeling they were W.
This game's completely different. It's less anything specific and more a few niche things. Like the fact Hally isn't building a voltron when I'm told town!Hally is the cooperative archetype. I can't follow their progression on Zack and SPF. It looks like they townread both because the duo scumread nutella for "valid reasons." Hally townreading nutella despite acknowledging those reasons could come from TMI. In a world where Hally's a wolf, their treatment of Zack and SPF is either pocketing or townreading mates. Alternatively, Nutella is the wolf and Hally's defending. It doesn't feel like the reads from these interactions formed naturally. SPF I could buy because there was at least some questioning going on, but Zack gets one for nothing. To say nothing of c4 who Hally slides in there and gives no thoughts about.
I'm checking their ISO and their townreads don't look warranted. Amy and nutella are fine, but Zack/c4/SPF got townreads for no clear reason. Hally questions what SPF's been doing and comes out of it with a townread because... why? Because the way SPF approached her read on nutella? The fact Hally isn't explaining it looks like they're trying to let SPF!town consensus slide in. "If SPF's called town enough times, we can get it." Either a w/w maneuver or a pocket. Either way it doesn't look justified.
In the game I played with Hally, where they were town, I could at least tell how they were reaching conclusions. They were questioning players and forming reads on them that way. There was some level of meandering in those reads, mind-changing, doubt. Here I see confident reads back to back to back and half of them seem to have come from flimsy bases (plural of basis?). I don't mind people giving lots of townreads on principle but the way Hally's doing it isn't believable to me.
Don't ask why I decided to go back to Hally instead of continuing to read SPF's ISO.
I think I called Hally a she instead of a they sometime before in my ISO, sorry if I did.
you mrr'dArete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:00 amI already mentioned this but I don't like Hally's ~page 1
people keep telling me this is a dumb read and they would do it as both alignments but I don't remember doing that in any of the village games we've had together
also Marl is a villager
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also I thought about it and Vul is like almost certainly a villager but the reason why is really dumb and also super exploitable if I tell him
I'm honestly unsure if it's unethical for me to not tell him and thereby allow his wolf game to be worse but it's not something he would always do as town, just something that I'm pretty sure he would only do as town
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the what now
You're in luck
brain is extremely saying to townread hally for this postHally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:13 pm spf, the short answer is nutella’s response to pressure has a fierceness and edge to it that she doesn’t have when she wolfs
ask me again in 12-24 hours if you still think nut is wolfing and i’ll go into more detail if i still v read her
there’s more to it than what i said but i don’t want to defend her too much right now because i’m not 100% sure and regardless of whether i’m correct i know people find meta reads like that unfun to play with
i’d rather let the game develop naturally
fwiw i think spf’s interpretation of nut’s posts and everyone’s concerns w/her are perfectly valid and i was actually considering voting nutella earlier
but now i think she’s probably a villager
The keys to the kingdom for reading SPF:
still catching up, only on page 2 but their vote on nutella in P#94 is extremely meh, if they thought nutte was actually wofly they'd have shown what post they thought was bad
