The Syndicate

Eh it is what it is.
Having fun is what matters at the end of the day.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:22 am if that game had been f3 me, gav, crich - I probably would have still went crich tbh. I had sneaking doubts about gav cuz when I called him on the shit d1 vote on that slot he never countered me (but I guess he didn't have to cuz someone called it "townread but not pushing" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

honestly you being so sure on pao made me think of times when I've been maf and I obviously know someone is town so I call them as town very very hard and use that as a shield later when they flip cuz town voted them off. like yeah i'm town and I knew they were town haha totally! cuz i'm town ( I am not town so I knew they were town and that is why I was so confident) lol

Tbh i was thinking you/Gav had the last wolf, so I figured why not resolve your slot to see if we had w/w wagons D2.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:58 am funny how I tried to cfd gavial over wilgy huh

That explains why you died the following night.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:37 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:43 am Hey there. If this game showed me anything, it's that I'm a bit too much of a lone ranger in SDGs.
What is SDG?

SDG = Social Deduction Game.

Hey there. If this game showed me anything, it's that I'm a bit too much of a lone ranger in SDGs.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:15 am Oh shit, town won...

Good work everyone! Thanks for the carry!

Yes town won.

Tbf I did tunnel MissC and Falcon, yet the way the responded to my pushes made me doubt my reasons to think they're scum.

I see. Well we're waiting for Alison to announce the flip.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:52 pm Would that of convinced you?
Geez I guess it’s kinda a good play for town to not wait to vote during LYLO eh?

GG almost had it.

Sorry for your loss.
I think you would have won if you waited before voting tbh.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:51 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:48 pm GG to whoever is my Townmate, and GG to whoever the Maf actually is
It's ok I'm town.
For real? Don't fuck with me plz

There's no reason to lie as this is the end of the game.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:48 pm GG to whoever is my Townmate, and GG to whoever the Maf actually is

It's ok I'm town.

I must say that this is on me for not realising how ridiculously wolfy Gav was being for leading a wagon on the 0 posting town Sig D1, which in hindsight was a successful attempt to save their partner Wilgy D1.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:38 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:13 pm Don't worry, I'll be sure to explain to Falcon why you're the wolf.
Which will age well if Falcon is the last wolf.
Give me your case against Gav

They led the wagon on the 0 poster Sig and made an effort to get town cred by having Wilgy, who was under pressure since D1 bussed.
After Wilgy died, the fact that they survived night after night was making me feel doubts that I was having trouble articulating and now it seems I was proven correct by the fact that they snap voted me and you would have ended the game if you were the last wolf.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:37 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:34 pm [VOTE: GAVIAL]
No reason not to cross vote.
@falcon45ca if you're mafia, you have no reason to slowroll this.
I am not the last wolf.

Alright so I was having a feeling that if there was a deep wolf, Gav/Porscha would make sense as we know the latter flipped town because of paranoia over deep wolves.
Which turns out to be for real as I was wondering why Gav wasn't dying night after night despite being "obvious town".

[VOTE: GAVIAL]
No reason not to cross vote.
@falcon45ca if you're mafia, you have no reason to slowroll this.

Ngl Gav has a long ISO and this will take a while to comb through.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:07 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:56 pm Gav if you're town, it's gg as Falcon just votes me.
Your the wolf as if Falcon was the wolf he wouldn’t slow roll.

As expected. Fmpov it has to be you, now it's up to Falcon to figure it out.
Mind you if Falcon is a wolf, they should just end it now and not slowroll as that's a dick move.

Don't worry, I'll be sure to explain to Falcon why you're the wolf.
Which will age well if Falcon is the last wolf.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:01 pm [VOTE: CRichard] aubergine
Ha ha Get Baited!

I must say you're a worthy opponent.
Let the best player win.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:05 pm Also in case you for some reason think it’s me Falcon, ask yourself if I would actually bother to riskly vote myself as wolf and then bring you to F3 only to vote the other player.

That’s absolutely absurd.

So it was you all along?
Yes I was thinking about worlds where deep wolves exist and your name was one of them.

Falcon if you're the wolf, you deserve this win. If you're town reevaluate everything and try to find the wolf between Gav and myself.

Gav if you're town, it's gg as Falcon just votes me.

Remind me to never play mountainous again.

F*** me. The CW to a wolf was a villager.

Well s***.

The moment of truth.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:48 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:46 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:45 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:44 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:37 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
people have real lives lol

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
That's a good point.
Which is why I'm having 2nd thoughts that MissC is a wolf.
MissC is raising good points and they don't feel like a wolf who has given up.
You mean 2ed thoughts that MissC is Town?
No I have 2nd thoughts MissC is mafia.
Then why is Por’s lack of solving related to MissC being mafia?
Huh? I've been thinking that Porsch feels like a coaster who is letting us sit back and eat each other if they're the last wolf.
“Which is why”.
Oh hmm maybe I’m not understanding what your saying.

Do you say you think their mafia because of Por or because of Por and recent stuff MissC has done you think they are town.

I'm leaning towards MissC potentially being town.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:45 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:44 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:37 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
people have real lives lol

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
That's a good point.
Which is why I'm having 2nd thoughts that MissC is a wolf.
MissC is raising good points and they don't feel like a wolf who has given up.
You mean 2ed thoughts that MissC is Town?
No I have 2nd thoughts MissC is mafia.
Then why is Por’s lack of solving related to MissC being mafia?

Huh? I've been thinking that Porsch feels like a coaster who is letting us sit back and eat each other if they're the last wolf.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:37 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
people have real lives lol

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?
That's a good point.
Which is why I'm having 2nd thoughts that MissC is a wolf.
MissC is raising good points and they don't feel like a wolf who has given up.
You mean 2ed thoughts that MissC is Town?

No I have 2nd thoughts MissC is mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?

That's a good point.
Which is why I'm having 2nd thoughts that MissC is a wolf.
MissC is raising good points and they don't feel like a wolf who has given up.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:31 pmMy secret plan

Imagine having a secret plan and blabbing about it in public. LUL

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 pm Gav with that last minute attempt to save Porsch from the tie tho
This.

Quite.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:19 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:19 pm I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.
Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.
Does anyone else see a progression on Porscha from Wilgy? He had Pors as Town here

Thing is was Wilgy suspected around that time?
If no, then they weren't in anti spew when they put Porscha into town.
Now it's possible that they being in anti-spew puts their partner into their "PoE" and hope that the anti-spew misclears their partner.

Alright here's a world view that we should think about.
Wilgy and Porscha are the wolf team.
The former who is under fire since D1, elects to tell Porscha to bus them and because they happened to be w/w wagons it allows the latter to gain town cred that no one looks too hard at them into F3. That to me seems to be what the wolves were planning if this is the world we're in.

Lets be honest, if Wilgy survived and Porscha flipped wolf would we ever catch them?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:16 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:49 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
Spicy, do you think Porscha might be the last wolf?
I'm not really sure. I don't like players coasting, doing little and less to help town.
Alright, anything more substantial than that?
Question: Do we think that there's a world where WIlgy who is suspected from D1 gets Porscha to bus them and because they happened to be w/w wagons, that would lead us down the primrose path of town eating itself alive?
If it's W/W wagons w/ Wilgy, and Wilgy wins that coin toss, then he looks pretty good. He pushed Pors pretty steady IIRC

Why did Wilgy push Pors?

If they're w/w, then it would be distancing 100% of the time.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:49 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
Spicy, do you think Porscha might be the last wolf?
I'm not really sure. I don't like players coasting, doing little and less to help town.

Alright, anything more substantial than that?
Question: Do we think that there's a world where WIlgy who is suspected from D1 gets Porscha to bus them and because they happened to be w/w wagons, that would lead us down the primrose path of town eating itself alive?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:05 pm Pretty sure I mentioned before that the CW doesn’t clear CRichard and neither does Por’s.

You have good timing.
The fact that Porscha didn't die despite being the counter wagon to Wilgy feels like it's for a reason and if I'm right, this should be it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:58 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:52 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:51 pm If Porscha is cleared town, then why does MightyQ die over Gav?
Cuz Gav & I haven't been seeing eye to eye?

Porscha is only thought to be cleared town due to being the CW to Wilgy, no?
That's the thing, Porscha being wolf to their partner would explain their sparse activity.
Let the town go for players such as MissC and Paopan and sit back, sip champagne and laugh.
Jesus fuck, it kinda freaks me out when you agree with me so quickly

It's a thought I've been having a while now.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:52 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:51 pm If Porscha is cleared town, then why does MightyQ die over Gav?
Cuz Gav & I haven't been seeing eye to eye?

Porscha is only thought to be cleared town due to being the CW to Wilgy, no?

That's the thing, Porscha being wolf to their partner would explain their sparse activity.
Let the town go for players such as MissC and Paopan and sit back, sip champagne and laugh.

If Porscha is cleared town, then why does MightyQ die over Gav?

Hmm ngl, Porscha hasn't been doing a whole lot after Wilgy died.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Spicy, do you think Porscha might be the last wolf?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:42 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:40 pm If this game goes to a F3, what are the odds it's Porscha?
That's entirely possible.
We've been flipping towns after Wilgy.
Well, to be fair we've flipped town, singular, since Wilgy.

This is only D3

Why yes, I'm going to be so tilted if we don't end the game today.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:40 pm If this game goes to a F3, what are the odds it's Porscha?

That's entirely possible.
We've been flipping towns after Wilgy.

Ngl I'm starting to wonder if MissC is a miss from their posting.
Am I crazy for thinking they might be a miss here?

Where's Gav when we need him?
Geez it's hard to admit this.

If I were feeling adventurous, I can see myself voting Falcon and letting it rand.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:42 pm I'll say this, given what MissC has said re: myself & re: CR, I'm a little surprised her vote is on me & not CR. Is that because she feels I'm an easier wagon to push than CR? Or does she actually find me scummier than CR?

Why indeed. MissC should be pushing me if she's town as from their PoV, I'm more likely scum than you are.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:24 pm CR's progression on falcon and me today:

starts the day with falcon/me PoE, has a brief moment of considering deeper wolves because of the nk, but settles back into that. (there are a bunch of posts where he says this stuff i don't feel the need to quote them)

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:44 am @Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think
Ok I'll go through it once I'm not occupied by real life too much.
starts evaluating the falcon case on me, and before ever mentioning or quoting anything from those posts:

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.
decides to sheep a several day old mac townread on his top scum for whatever reason

then starts pushing me as last wolf and falcon as town (this is before he's really addressed anything in falcon's case or really talked to falcon at all)

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:05 pm BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:59 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:55 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.
Hmm.
Me no like.
Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?
CR ISOs wilgy and pushes a lot of similar things falcon has pushed, then this

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:17 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:16 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:48 am Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm
I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm
Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.
which i think is just a terrible post when CR already posted the same day about being busy IRL himself. i made over 100 posts d3 when i was well within the PoE, if i'm absent from the thread i'm fucking busy lmao. it feels like a gross way to push on me.

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CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:05 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:02 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:47 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:41 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:38 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:34 pm

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.
Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.
= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later
Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.
literally you're quoting a post where i said "wilgy had a similar progression on CR as me and that's part of why i townread him" and being like "huh, that's like how wilgy treated my slot!"

like???
Speak of the Devil and they will appear much?
Oh here's another idiom. If the shoe fits....

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:09 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:06 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:05 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:02 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:47 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:41 am

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later
Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.
literally you're quoting a post where i said "wilgy had a similar progression on CR as me and that's part of why i townread him" and being like "huh, that's like how wilgy treated my slot!"

like???
Speak of the Devil and they will appear much?
Oh here's another idiom. If the shoe fits....
just saying you posted like a dozen times about how paopan was an absolutely terrible town who deserved to die even after they were already out of the game and i thought it was a little out of line and if you're town your posts today have been terrible lol
Ok how does that address Falcon's case on your slot?
And sure I was a dick towards Paopan I'll agree that much. If you want to call my posts terrible, knock yourself out.

these posts just feel so out for blood. like, CR has not really pushed me in a significant way until falcon cases me on d4 and is now acting genuinely antagonistic towards me as soon as i enter the thread.

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:55 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:47 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:46 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:45 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:44 am Yeah the night kill is really weird as I was expecting myself, Gav or Porscha to have died instead of MightyQ.
not trying to be rude (if i was rude before i do feel bad it's just a game) but please don't push me based on falcon's case a bunch as soon as i get here and then ignore when i respond to it lmao
I'm not ignoring it, I'm simply giving you space to address Falcon's case.
what didn't i address? he says i didn't want to kill wilgy (true, we talked about it a lot yesterday!) and says out porscha reads lining up was fake (a lie)

if there's something else to the case genuinely enlighten me because that's all i see
You tell me, because if you're town then eliminating you would mean we get to F3.
this post is genuinely like. so bad. just like. bad. i made several posts refuting things falcon had said, then CR just says he's not talking to me because he's giving me space to respond to falcon. i say i thought i responded to everything of consequence and if he wants me to talk about more stuff bring it up and i will and CR's response is "well you tell me!"

like. i'm SAYING that if you want me to talk about more stuff i will and you are just not even asking me questions or saying anything actually productive to me and want me to believe you're evaluating me and not just trying to get me killed.

I'm here now and I'm agonising over if I keep my vote on you or move to Falcon.

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