The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:04 pm Still trying the impossible. I should be pretty obviously town. Oh well. Ketchup a couple hundred posts and save the day again.

If you're town, I wouldn't mind if you propose someone else take your place on the chopping block.
I'd hurry if I were you, there isn't much time left today.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:29 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.
This post just bothers me. It comes off as TMI because nobody is even pushing me for death. If I had like 6 votes and you were actually worried wolves were trying to mislynch that’d make sense, but that never happened.

Idk it comes off as a white knight mafia

Ding ding ding, you win the prize for worst reason to accuse someone as mafia. TMI despite no flips on D1.
When do people learn TMI accusations on D! hold no water?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:07 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:02 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:00 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:56 am Omega being in PoE is obvious, yet I'm going to propose something that might ruffle some feathers.
I think they're more likely to be town dancing to their own tune. I feel that if they were mafia, their partners would probably tap their shoulder saying "post more please" or similar.
I don't see that regarding their slot.
imagine thinking Rachel would listen to her partners
I mean I'd expect any mafia who knows a speck of how to play would pay attention to what their partners tell them in their chat.
Unless I'm living in a cave.
I thought this too when I first started mafia, but as I got my experience I realized the more time I spent reading wolfchat, listening to my partners the worse of a mafia I was.

A common thing I see in the wolfchats I'm in is players asking for advice, spending too much time out of the thread, worrying about every little post. The key to mafia is just to act natural and be active ITT, and understand what is happening. I became a great wolf by not over thinking or reading my wolfbro's opinions.

Geez are you getting me to reconsider town leaning you?
Huh I would think that a wolf in your position would be more likely to just accept the pocket opportunity, and not rock the boat.
And I'm getting tired again. Bed time beckons.

So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:00 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:56 am Omega being in PoE is obvious, yet I'm going to propose something that might ruffle some feathers.
I think they're more likely to be town dancing to their own tune. I feel that if they were mafia, their partners would probably tap their shoulder saying "post more please" or similar.
I don't see that regarding their slot.
imagine thinking Rachel would listen to her partners

I mean I'd expect any mafia who knows a speck of how to play would pay attention to what their partners tell them in their chat.
Unless I'm living in a cave.

Omega being in PoE is obvious, yet I'm going to propose something that might ruffle some feathers.
I think they're more likely to be town dancing to their own tune. I feel that if they were mafia, their partners would probably tap their shoulder saying "post more please" or similar.
I don't see that regarding their slot.

It says something when I wasn't playing the game, yet I cringe at the townplay to this day as though the game ended yesterday.

And Neon, did you think I forgot about the wolf game we played offsite? Most of the surviving town was in your pocket during LyLo.
I seem to remember I mentioned paranoia on your slot today, yet I find D1 is not the best time to board the paranoia train.
I'll post a link to the legacy homesite.
https://fol-archive.netlify.app/t/wild- ... 83518.html

Funny thing is that one of my games on my homesite I kid you not had 2 townies wanting death, rather than trying to solve and be towny.
It happened in a game I hosted a few years again, and I joke about it to take my mind off of the atrocious town play.

What do chess and mafia have in common? Your opponents are out to beat you.
Insert X-Files theme.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:22 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:03 am I'm booooooooored
baited and now I get to post this meme

> Neon in every mafia game

franz ferdinand this parade is boring.jpg

It says something when this is way too believable if Twitter existed in the 1910s.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:34 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:22 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:03 am I'm booooooooored
baited and now I get to post this meme

> Neon in every mafia game

franz ferdinand this parade is boring.jpg
Accurate. Someone should shoot me.

Here's an unbelievable radical idea. Make yourself obvious town.
I understand it's easier said than done, yet it's a better approach than just begging for a vigi to visit you yes?

I don't see Neon being a hit. Honestly, the only reason I can feasibly think Neon might not be town is pushing on the 3P claim. Which isn't the best reason to scum read someone, provided they've done more outside of push on 3p all of today.
Ofc if I'm wrong, that would have aged well eh?

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:54 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:31 am If Sig outs who the puppet master behind Scrappy is, then Sig/Puppet master of Scrappy is never w/w. You don't obsessively hunt for the owner of a puppet account if your scum buddy is piloting the account. No way.
Nah I don’t obsessively hunt for them it just clicked.

Hmm ok. It would be nice to know if the owner of the account is someone I town read/scum read or is null altogether.
I haven't seen anything from splints all of today. They're a complete null.

Chihiro is TMIed as town in the world where Jack is mafia. If we go for Jack and they flip mafia, then I would recommend never touching Chihiro for the rest of the game.
Odds are the mafia wouldn't want them around in that case.

I don't remember seeing any post from Kate that I hated. Good look for them.

If Sig outs who the puppet master behind Scrappy is, then Sig/Puppet master of Scrappy is never w/w. You don't obsessively hunt for the owner of a puppet account if your scum buddy is piloting the account. No way.

DJizz/Seanzie probably not wolves together. Their argument feels too silly and spontaneous for it to be scum theater.

Geez this GoC game people keep talking about feels like the punchline to a joke I'm not in on.
Or the ending of a book everyone is talking about, yet I don't own said book.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:52 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:30 pm Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.
Overreaction? I wonder. Yet saying Falcon's vote on me is "semivalid" is tacit agreement with said vote.
Am I wrong?
Yes. You are wrong.

The read was about Falcon, not you. I'd only vote for a player based on semivalid reasoning if I didn't have any other reason to scumread anyone else. So duh of course I didn't vote for you.

If I'm indeed wrong, it wouldn't be the 1st time and probably not the last.
Alright so you don't scum read my slot if I'm understanding this correctly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:30 pm Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.

Overreaction? I wonder. Yet saying Falcon's vote on me is "semivalid" is tacit agreement with said vote.
Am I wrong?

Also the way Jack agreed with Falcon on their vote on my slot, probably means Falcon is just town in Jack!Mafia worlds.
It wouldn't be the 1st time I've seen mafia encourage suspicion on a sus townie, and yet stays off wagon to avoid accountability for a mislunch.

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
Voting in PoE.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:57 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:51 am As I've probably mentioned before, the mafia will probably want to keep discussion on Scraggy as much as possible. Providing it isn't one of their own behind the account.
I'm getting tired. Sleep time beckons.
Repeating the same points over, while still discussing Scraps...OK.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine
Semivalid. Probably comes from town Falcon but I’ve lately managed to be shit at reading Falcon. Of course, I blame Falcon for this.

And yet didn't vote me. How weird.
It feels that in the world Jack is mafia, that they TMIed me as town.

Honestly, I feel that if Jack is mafia, then Chihiro isn't mafia. The town read over an NAI post almost always originates from a mafia struggling with TMI and finding a non-TMI reason to "find" someone as town. It's almost never a read a mafia makes on their partner.

For context, a townie got mislunched offsite over a "slip".
If the only reason for sig being mafia is a slip, that isn't something I'm convinced by.

Also, what is this talk about sig making a slip?
FTR I don't trust so called slips, as they tend to be red herrings from experience.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:42 pm
Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:50 pm So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

I don't get this read. Chihiro can be town, yet this feels NAI.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:12 pm
JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:06 pm General question, Someone(maybe Lucy, idr) mentioned that scrappy is using ChatGPT. I'm not super familiar with chatgpt and never would have known that myself. Do we think that scrappy chose to use ChatGPT themselves, or do we think that the host advised this? Has this happened in previous games?
Scrappy is likely being duel hatted the host is running any randomized comments while the player is posting the real stuff. This is usually done with socky accounts so players can’t pin down who’s behind it if they’re also in the game.

Like so and so is posting at the same time Scrappy is so they must be them

...I find this hard to believe. Hosts effectively playing the game is a yikes to me.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:31 am I need eyes on Dunya and Dennis. There's a difference check between them.

Social reads? I'll take a look at Dennis when I've had a good night sleep.

Well it's bed time for me.
In seriousness, Seanzie not being towny to my knowledge and yet isn't the top wagon is noteworthy.
It doesn't mean lol!Lock mafia, yet it's nagl as the kids would say.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:22 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:19 am
Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:11 am Good to know Scrappy is wolf siding by voting on me.
Have they even posted today?
Apologies, sweetie, but I'm fully committed to siding with the town and helping them achieve victory. Gotta be a good third party, you know?
Where I'm seeing it. You just sheeped Creature and Falcon on my wagon.
That doesn't come across as pro-town behavior where I come from.
Umm, how am I supposed to know what you are, hun? I'm just a third party player without any inside info. I'm really sorry for voting you earlier.

...You don't. Eh it's fine, though pardon me if I give your slot the side eye for the rest of today.

And look at that. Speak of the devil and they appear.
What a shocker!

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:11 am Good to know Scrappy is wolf siding by voting on me.
Have they even posted today?
Apologies, sweetie, but I'm fully committed to siding with the town and helping them achieve victory. Gotta be a good third party, you know?

Where I'm seeing it. You just sheeped Creature and Falcon on my wagon.
That doesn't come across as pro-town behavior where I come from.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:16 am Some kind of Jester equivalent theory makes sense. Especially with how many contradicting statements they made repeatedly N0

Still wanna kill them though.

I could see that. It wouldn't be the 1st time I've encountered a jesteresque role if true.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:14 am
Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:55 pm Hey guys, just a heads up, it actually takes two lynch votes to get me out of this game. Or, if you want, I can help you decide who to lynch by voting with the majority of Dunya, Sig, and Lucy. Let's work together to win this game!
interesting to include me when i had 0 posts so i'm leaning it being someone who knows me

people this could be :

seanzie or fingersplints (but the whole "lesbians are cool" eliminates seanzie and splints i feel, not somthing they'd come up with)

Jack totally would...but too much in character posting and no jack-type typos o.o

the timing of scrappy's 3p claim is just bizarre, it's like an attempt at making us want to yeet them. playing like a jester-type of game who can only post night 0 and try to be the day 1 elim cos i have yet to see day 1 posts by them.

putting scrappy in (one of the most unlikeable characters) on n0 to reach some kind of condition for the player's vote count to be multiplied makes more sense to me (hence scrappy referring to three vote count power)

in conclusion, i actually think scrappy is a town player who had to claim 3p as part of their role, but not get elimmed d1 so their main role is activated or something and if they are eliminated d1, then their role isn't activated.

You can take me out of the puppet master of Scraggy PoE. As they're voting me.
I don't know if I believe that part about Scrappy being town forced to claim 3p. Yet somehow, that explanation feels a little too out there coming from you if you're mafia.
Tbh I expect you to come up with something less convoluted than lol!Scrappy is town forced to claim 3p, if you're mafia.
Mind you, this is our 1st game together so I'm not 100% confident on this read.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:52 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:13 am Who can be Scrappy Doo?

lucy - No
Kate - No
pyxxy - No
Neon - Prob no
Dennis - No
Chihiro - Only if an alt of a good player
Jackofhearts2005 - Maybe
Roxy - Maybe
Creature - lol no
sig - No
DrWilgy - Prob no
Seanzie - No
CRichard - No?
falcon45ca - Maybe but prob no
JDizz10 - idk
DaughterOfOmega - Maybe
fingersplints - No
dunya - Most likely

Alternatively Scrappy Doo is a completely different player not on the playerlist
i am not scrappy.

too much wifom, but i would never claim d0 in any format or context lol.

i think it's sig and his wincon is to get scrappy sock eliminated d1. hehehe. only half joking tbh.

Then again I wonder, seeing how adamant Sig wants Scrappy out of the game.
Or maybe Sig is town who wants a 3p claim out of the game, rather than risk killing a town by eliminating out of the,.

Good to know Scrappy is wolf siding by voting on me.
Have they even posted today?

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:00 am I agree with you in a general sense though as that's how I do VCA but never say never

Oh yeah with every rule there is exceptions.

Before I have a nap. Sig focusing on Scrappy so much is raising my eyebrows.
It feels like that if they're mafia, that's the only slot they can feasibly scum read because as mafia pushing on the 3p claim as a scumread means they don't have to remember what they said/done.
Which incidentally would clear Neon as town, because again two mafia voting on the same slot early D1 is unlikely to say the least.
Neon admittedly is a slot that gets my paranoia up, because they are quite capable of carrying as mafia and I've seen it happen at least twice off site.
Neon!mafia would also point towards Sig as town for same reasons above.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:48 am also 80 post cap lol, stop spamming cr

Pardon me. I'm concerned about forgetting what I'm going to post.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 am so you won't vote scrappy today, cr?

Not making any promise here.
Scrappy is always a compromise elimination, if there is not enough agreement from town on who dies 1st today.

[VOTE: SEANZIE] aubergine so that the vote is officially on record.

Sigh Creature if they're a wolf would likely find more "sensible" reasons as a pretext to vote me beforehand.
It wouldn't be the 1st time I've been voted on for reasons as town, and I seriously doubt it will be the last time I get voted for similar/same reason/s.

At least if there is anything good coming out of my silly wagon, that at least one of Creature/Falcon is a wrong townie on my slot.
Yes it's shocking I see something good out of it.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm CRichard might be a wolf. His ISO is only fluffposts.

Now this is hilarious. I'm taking it easy this game means I'm a wolf?
Come on, find better reason/s to wolf read me.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:43 pm Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

Yeah that's a good point. I'm also keeping an eye out for anyone who wants the discussion to center on Scrappy, rather than anyone else.
The mafia would want town to waste as much discussion time on Scraggy as possible, and will subtly egg on such discussion if they feel they can get away with it.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 am I don't like dealing with third parties at all. Wished they just stayed silent and we wolfhunted normally.

I also doubt Scrappy Doo is as powerful as he is claiming to be because that would be very unbalanced.

You gotta love the kingmaker 3ps am I right?

Chihiro V indicates DrWilgy and Psy not w/w either.

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 am [vote:SEANZIE]

If someone is nice enough to remind how to get the correct format for voting here, that would be great.

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