The Syndicate

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:00 pm gg I was maf

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:43 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:42 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:41 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:40 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:39 pm Wondering if Alison is levelling up nutella's wolfplay...

I think nutella's vote was fine

I would say that the vote was fine but the oh god oh fuk and then making that panicky alison gonna blacklist me thing felt fake.

How so?

It came across pretty genuine to me

Oh god oh fuck? Really? To sit there and type that out. I dunno just felt fake. I can't explain it.

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:33 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:32 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:31 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:26 pm 1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - a town, derp levels of obvious
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze) - continues to be neg utility, but I also still think we probably leave them alive because they are probably just openly taking the piss and will eventually get good and maybe has ok reads
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows) - I dunno but I'm gonna just say designated mischop because it seems right
4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz) - Lock wolf
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK) - Nook is gonna back off me inside of the next 120 seconds and then we'll be ok
6. Mana (Made & Dana) - Lock wolf
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall) - Sexiest hydra
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy) - Amount of people upset and pushing them vs. having a reason to be heavily indicates town that mafia is mad nobody cares enough about to let them mischop. Having this thought makes me reconsider the read on Falcon who the mafia might be trying to save.
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena) - Now that I see this is Hyena I believe it's lack claire.
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool) - Top town.
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak) - probably town based on reading what one other person said.
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx) - Lean town but maybe this is the busy wolf doing bad things.
13. TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt) - Lock wolf.

I wouldn't bet on it

(But maybe)


(I do still want to kill tat)

I mean you could not, that might be cool too?

Then you know where your vote has to go!

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:31 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:26 pm 1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - a town, derp levels of obvious
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze) - continues to be neg utility, but I also still think we probably leave them alive because they are probably just openly taking the piss and will eventually get good and maybe has ok reads
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows) - I dunno but I'm gonna just say designated mischop because it seems right
4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz) - Lock wolf
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK) - Nook is gonna back off me inside of the next 120 seconds and then we'll be ok
6. Mana (Made & Dana) - Lock wolf
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall) - Sexiest hydra
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy) - Amount of people upset and pushing them vs. having a reason to be heavily indicates town that mafia is mad nobody cares enough about to let them mischop. Having this thought makes me reconsider the read on Falcon who the mafia might be trying to save.
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena) - Now that I see this is Hyena I believe it's lack claire.
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool) - Top town.
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak) - probably town based on reading what one other person said.
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx) - Lean town but maybe this is the busy wolf doing bad things.
13. TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt) - Lock wolf.

I wouldn't bet on it

(But maybe)


(I do still want to kill tat)

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:19 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:18 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:12 pm like why is me being stubborn on certain logic wolfy at all

i do believe that you could come to the correct conclusion regarding poop explosions' hydra dissonance and tspic's hydra dissonance. you're all smart, right?

How many times do I need to say it's not about you coming to that conclusion and entirely about you saying someone else necessarily should too just because they read an ISO once this is groundhog day fuck off

this is annoying and i'm doubling down going to continue doubling down. you either have a bad read or you're just a wolf.

Mana wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:49 pm I dont dislike poops posts but I townread both julinook and trans rights so maybe there is something to it

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:48 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:47 pm

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:46 pm In all seriousness, it's not possible for two and through to be mafia if toopy and binoo is town.

...what

Seth has never been correct about anything ever. It's a legit verifiable fact

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:47 pm

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:46 pm In all seriousness, it's not possible for two and through to be mafia if toopy and binoo is town.

...what

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:36 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:35 pm Falcon? Really? You want to wagon the highest profile whack a mole in the game, that everyone has accused of making wolfy posts, against what might be the lowest profile slot available?

What has Falcon done wrong, other than just not doing much at all?

I mean
What if I told you that was wolf indicative for Falcon
What if I told you that was wolf indicative for Bo

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:34 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:30 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:14 pm I've tipped my hand obviously, but im reasonably confident poop is mafia

Detached from thread in a scummy way, mac relying on c4 to get TRs, the cursed hydra reads are deeply meh, etc. etc.

Its not, like, lock scum, but this is the feel I get and push aside when Joseph is mafia and regret pushing aside later, so this game im pushing it ahead instead

If meta holds then I'll be obvious at exactly 7 PM EST on the 6th of May so stay posted.

If I disappear its cause I passed out from holding my breath too long

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:23 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:22 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:20 pm What posts has HK made so far?

The wolfy ones.

Ah so does that mean your the better wolf?

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:20 pm What posts has HK made so far?

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:18 pm

The Walrus wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:07 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:59 pm

The Walrus wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:57 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:48 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm Both heads of the Walrus making time to converse with each other in thread and doing nothing but whine about post counts while padding theirs is really aggravating.

Don't worry. I'm shooting them tonight.

X

What does the x mean?

X for doubt

Its a meme

I thought it was real tim for a moment, not fake tim joking

Thanks for the explanation. Although now I have more questions what real Tim vs Fake Tim means

Timsup2nothin is half of the Two and Through hydra

Syn and hyena named their hydra Timsup2gettinserious as a troll

This uh may not be the first time this game I've been briefly confused which is the real tim

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:12 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:00 pm if two and through/tspic are both v/v then 1) my dayphase has been terrible and 2) i'm not even sure how my world building would pan out. poop explosions could be a wolf i guess? meh.

Yeah he is, come join the light

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:07 pm Anyone got anything urgent to tell me?

The Walrus wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:46 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm Both heads of the Walrus making time to converse with each other in thread and doing nothing but whine about post counts while padding theirs is really aggravating.

Don't worry. I'm shooting them tonight.

We don’t believe your role claim. We know you are lying.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:44 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm Both heads of the Walrus making time to converse with each other in thread and doing nothing but whine about post counts while padding theirs is really aggravating.

Join me on the wagon

The Walrus wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:43 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm Both heads of the Walrus making time to converse with each other in thread and doing nothing but whine about post counts while padding theirs is really aggravating.

When did we converse with each other in the thread?

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:29 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:28 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:25 pm Tim knows I took a stand on him based on meta in CoV. The fact he seems to be more self aware that I am meta reading him like this in this game feels like a good look

How is that a good look

Because in CoV he didn't care at all

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:27 pm mist says the reason people don't understand my posts sometimes is because i write lots of words and people dont like to read

understandable.

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:20 pm approx postcounts

181 Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)
166 Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
171 trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
140 TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt)
117 Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
117 Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
113 Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
109 Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
95 TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)
46 Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
43 Mana (Made & Dana)
42 FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
13 The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:12 pm Tim to be clear I was asking for your read on TSPIC.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:08 pm When should I claim.

It's not really alignment clearing

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:04 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:01 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:55 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:52 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:49 pm that doesn't really address my post though tspic

tim is a dynamic player. you can tell if you've read a decent amount of games from him. i think there's also the possibility of the environment changing how he plays.

my point is that pinning down tim with meta like this is unreliable. i think tim is too good of a player to be pigeonholed by meta in my eyes. a change in playstyle isn't necessarily something he needs to fake. he can play any way he wants for any reason.

Yes he can change his playstyle whenever he wants. I hate meta reads as well but they have proved effective for me in the past. Until I see a game where Tim is friendly with everyone as town then I think the meta read is a sound one at the moment.

Also, he clearly isn't changing his playstyle here though because his somewhat anti-town playstyle is happening before our eyes.

sure. that's not alignment indicative though.

I know I just granted you a pass to LYLO, but geeezzzz this is the entire point. You keep dismissing everything anyone says about how I could be town, using "Tim can do <fill in pretty much anything> as a wolf though," and yes that is verifiably true. But you are totally redusing to consider that I am equally verifiable as capable of just about anything as town, even though you know that it is true. That's the problem with your "confident read" here.

I have literally done nothing that is genuinely alignment indicative for me, so how did you get so confident that you are lock stuck in this wolf read?

my read was also based around hollow, not just you. regardless, if i'm not going to use meta to read someone, i might as well use non-meta wolfhunting techniques, which is what i did. what you're basically suggesting is that you're unreadable, which is... arrogant and probably untrue to say the very least.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:56 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:55 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:44 pm

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:37 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:27 pm yeah okay i see the interaction looking back. the interaction between you and honey and villager looks decent.

wow freudian slip much

mist pointed this out to me and tbh i find it funny

I took this as most likely a hilarious auto correct in a phone post.

it wasn't autocorrect. i legitimately thought that was their name.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:57 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:53 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:49 pm that doesn't really address my post though tspic

tim is a dynamic player. you can tell if you've read a decent amount of games from him. i think there's also the possibility of the environment changing how he plays.

my point is that pinning down tim with meta like this is unreliable. i think tim is too good of a player to be pigeonholed by meta in my eyes. a change in playstyle isn't necessarily something he needs to fake. he can play any way he wants for any reason.

Totally pocketed. Even though I think you might be a wolf you can have a pass all the way to LYLO.

That said, do you notice that as soon as TSPIC had something positive to say about my slot they immediately went from under the radar to being shoved into the chainsaw wood chipper?

The people who've expressed scumreads on TSPIC recently are me, H&V, trans rights and Walrus. You seem to have townreads on me trans rights so are you accusing H&V/Walrus of being scum?

How do you read TSPIC in a vacuum?

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:55 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:52 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:49 pm that doesn't really address my post though tspic

tim is a dynamic player. you can tell if you've read a decent amount of games from him. i think there's also the possibility of the environment changing how he plays.

my point is that pinning down tim with meta like this is unreliable. i think tim is too good of a player to be pigeonholed by meta in my eyes. a change in playstyle isn't necessarily something he needs to fake. he can play any way he wants for any reason.

Yes he can change his playstyle whenever he wants. I hate meta reads as well but they have proved effective for me in the past. Until I see a game where Tim is friendly with everyone as town then I think the meta read is a sound one at the moment.

Also, he clearly isn't changing his playstyle here though because his somewhat anti-town playstyle is happening before our eyes.

sure. that's not alignment indicative though.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:44 pm

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:37 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:27 pm yeah okay i see the interaction looking back. the interaction between you and honey and villager looks decent.

wow freudian slip much

mist pointed this out to me and tbh i find it funny

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:49 pm that doesn't really address my post though tspic

tim is a dynamic player. you can tell if you've read a decent amount of games from him. i think there's also the possibility of the environment changing how he plays.

my point is that pinning down tim with meta like this is unreliable. i think tim is too good of a player to be pigeonholed by meta in my eyes. a change in playstyle isn't necessarily something he needs to fake. he can play any way he wants for any reason.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:08 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm yes

definitely not the second line that reeks of all kinds of strawmanning and ad homineming bullshit

it's certainly the fact that you teased her over mixing up times

gottem

To be fair to Tim this is the kind of thing he'd write as town.

It's also the kind of thing he'd write as scum though so it doesn't change my opinion of him at all. I'm scumreading him for the weird triangle vote stuff and waffling on who the scum on his wagon was.

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.

One, four, okay, who's counting?

Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.

I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?

i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm @Hyena please let me vote for TaT

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.

One, four, okay, who's counting?

Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile

Can be. Also can be just a towny throwing a fact into the pond to see what people say about it. Hard to tell.

maybe

that's why everyone gives their own opinion on it, right?

~mawile

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm for the record, mist thinks mana might be a villager and i'm not completely onboard but i don't really oppose it until further notice

walrus' posts are tonally okay but it's a null iso overall

[VOTE: tonystarkplaysitcool] aubergine

and in a shocking turn of events, let's do this.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm there's a difference between what you wrote and "i think nutella's reads are bad but she's probably a villager. if i'm wrong, it's because of alison potentially strategizing in wolf chat"

the latter is significantly more useful and villagery than the former.

we have a language barrier

ya hate to see it

of course it's to be expected when you are speaking in wolf


meanwhile...you are going with "fluff posted during RVS" as the foundation of your case? seriously?

I respect the refusal to use meta, but seriously, ask around, I fluffpost in RVS.

Now HERE is a newsflash: I am not the only one.

As to the contention that I just kept on fluff posting...I was maybe the only one that DIDN'T. I pointed out an actual fact. Throwing that grenade into the murky water of feelie reads and bullshit is the only thing that has produced any meaningful discussions still. I have zero regrets about throwing that grenade.

you made a wolfy post and i called out why it was wolfy. keep deflecting though.

fluffposting in rvs doesn't really matter. my problem is you continued to do so at a point where there was legitimately stuff to be investigated, and the one thing (the vote triangulation) your hydra did point out didn't go anywhere. it didn't have anything to do with the observation you made either. it was how you phrased the observation and did nothing with it. that is what sparked discussion, so trying to act as though what you did was actually progressing the game state is wrong, because the ones that did progress the game state were the ones that made the read based on how you made the read and not with the read itself.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:20 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:00 pm

Spoiler: show

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:23 pm So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.

The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.

ooookay so i missed this post. woops. it's a villagery look at the very least.

so is the point here that i'm not diving 6 layers deep in a wolf read? i mean... that's not really my style to begin with. you're basically calling me a wolf because i started pushed on two and through for a specific reason and not much past that, which... you're suggesting that i need 10 reasons for someone to be a wolf to actually be super confident in it? i think that's pretty absurd, and absolutely not true for me personally anyways. tell me one person that has demonstrated an incredibly nuanced and multilayered read in this game so far if you can? because i can't remember one (you dont count btw). i do think two and through is a wolf currently, and my posts should clearly indicate as such. you're placing your unreasonably high expectations onto me. it's d1 my friend. i'm not going to have a dissertation on why two and through or mana are wolves if they are wolves.

the dichotomy i'm placing between mana and two and through is based on how mana treated two and through. the slot voted two and through but in a vicarious way. you pointed out that i hedged, and that's true. to me it looks like it's too bad of a vote to be w/w, but it's not like i've seen bad w/w votes before. that's just what my gut instinct said. if wolves are going to vote on their partners, they want to look good. i also never said that they had nothing to do with each other, you're misconstruing that based on me saying "regardless of two and through's alignment". that's not the implication there. the implication is that the vote looks individually bad for mana.

besides i feel like you're seeing ghosts wrt this disparity. my read on julinook is not just based on two and through being a wolf, it's also based on how they approached the read. that's villagery to me regardless of two and through's alignment. my read on mana is that some of their posts are wolfy regardless of two and through's alignment.

regardless, i think the conclusion also has problems insofar as you haven't actually asked yourself why if i was a wolf i would be pre-flipping. the most obvious answer would be tmi, right? but you clearly don't seem to think that's the case based on you thinking my posts are agenda-y. so i'm just confused on where you stand on this as a whole.

Do you have any interest in actually solving this slot, or are you just on "flip it and see"?

Because I already gave a common wolf agenda for making pre-flip reads, and you apparently didn't read that post.

It seems like you have no interest in actually "defending" your slot, since you are just dismissing or not even reading questions/observations about what you are doing.

It also seems like you aren't really interested in evaluating me, just in making sure no one listens to me.

To repeat...wolves hate to make reads day one that will commit them. If someone becomes a consensus borderline POE and the wolf laid down a town read day one that is hard for them to get out of it makes it awkward to push for the mischop. If it comes down to really needing to expand a tightening POE it is even worse. So, good wolf makes a bunch of preflip reads instead. They look "helpful" and "solvey"...but when the root of their world flips one simple "oh I was wrong there" gives them a free range reset by erasing all those awkward day one reads.

Now, I'm kind of interested in the Mana read, because you are now making it very clear that is a read you are willing to commit to regardless of my alignment. If you could expand on how that is a wolfy vote a little more that would be...well...helpful.

okay i'm trying to look for "questions i didn't answer in two and through's iso" and i got to this point where he accused mist of not answering a question

i rechecked the iso and mist didn't really dodge any questions two and through was asking xem early on

as far as i know this entire post is patently untrue because neither of my game nor mist's game fits this criteria

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm there's a difference between what you wrote and "i think nutella's reads are bad but she's probably a villager. if i'm wrong, it's because of alison potentially strategizing in wolf chat"

the latter is significantly more useful and villagery than the former.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:49 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:31 pm Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

you're still fluffposting.

what is this trying to accomplish?

answer: it doesn't accomplish anything.