The Syndicate

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:45 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:44 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:43 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:38 pm

I understand some reasons, don't know if they're your reasons.

What do you mean 'if they are your reasons'? What does that mean?

As in I don't know if they're the reasons you've been bringing up

Okay, does it matter if they are or not?

I genuinely have no fucking idea what you're trying to get across here

It feels like you don't want to understand what I'm trying to say.

Can we do this later

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:43 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:38 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:36 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Okay well I get it even less now lmao

Do you understand why H&V could be scum?

I understand some reasons, don't know if they're your reasons.

What do you mean 'if they are your reasons'? What does that mean?

As in I don't know if they're the reasons you've been bringing up

Okay, does it matter if they are or not?

I genuinely have no fucking idea what you're trying to get across here

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:41 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:38 pm @Akemi Hazelnut
@Poop Explosions
Do I need to explain why I think H&V?

not really

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:38 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:36 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:34 pm

I mean
I think "any part of it" is a pretty well defined phrase

I don't get your AH attacks
I don't get what you're panicking about rn
I don't get which part I'm supposed to respond to

So
"any part of it"

I'm accusing you, AH, and H&V as being a scumteam.

Okay well I get it even less now lmao

Do you understand why H&V could be scum?

I understand some reasons, don't know if they're your reasons.

What do you mean 'if they are your reasons'? What does that mean?

As in I don't know if they're the reasons you've been bringing up

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:34 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:32 pm i'm reading the situation between you and akemi hyena. personally i think honey & vinegar could be a wolf given their action but leaving them alone is the correct play for now plus it seems unlikely to me that they're trying to use honey & vinegar as a means of silencing you?

Okay. As long as you're reading it, I'm fine with you guys talking about it. It just feels like people are going to conveniently forget what I posted after I've died and that's making me paranoid.

Very unlikely you die tonight lol

Especially if hv is mafia which seems to be your concern?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:38 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:36 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:34 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

What do you mean you don't get any part of it? What part don't you understand?

I mean
I think "any part of it" is a pretty well defined phrase

I don't get your AH attacks
I don't get what you're panicking about rn
I don't get which part I'm supposed to respond to

So
"any part of it"

I'm accusing you, AH, and H&V as being a scumteam.

Okay well I get it even less now lmao

Do you understand why H&V could be scum?

I understand some reasons, don't know if they're your reasons.

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:34 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.

I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

What do you mean you don't get any part of it? What part don't you understand?

I mean
I think "any part of it" is a pretty well defined phrase

I don't get your AH attacks
I don't get what you're panicking about rn
I don't get which part I'm supposed to respond to

So
"any part of it"

I'm accusing you, AH, and H&V as being a scumteam.

Okay well I get it even less now lmao

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:34 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.

I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

What do you mean you don't get any part of it? What part don't you understand?

I mean
I think "any part of it" is a pretty well defined phrase

I don't get your AH attacks
I don't get what you're panicking about rn
I don't get which part I'm supposed to respond to

So
"any part of it"

trans rights wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:32 pm i'm reading the situation between you and akemi hyena. personally i think honey & vinegar could be a wolf given their action but leaving them alone is the correct play for now plus it seems unlikely to me that they're trying to use honey & vinegar as a means of silencing you?

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm There is no chance I'm awake for another two hours, who wants to hammer so daddy can get his flip fix

Wait, we didn't get a flip yesterday. Why do you think we'll get one today?

If we don't I'm going to fucking riot

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.

I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:18 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on

You're not loverized with anyone though. It feels like I'm likely dying soon and because it might happen indirectly, it feels like no ones going to be held accountable aside from maybe H&V, who loverized me to begin with? If they are scum, do you really think they just do that on their own?

Ok but would you rather die before or at MYLO/LYLO?

Because the only other option will most likely result in a town defeat.

-Toopy

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm There is no chance I'm awake for another two hours, who wants to hammer so daddy can get his flip fix

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:28 pm 2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)

11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)

3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)

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5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
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4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)



sure we can go with this

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:22 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena

There isn't really anything to do about it today

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:15 pm Ime Alison is pretty willing to go directly after town players she wants dead

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:12 pm I don't normally address specific points i find meaningless lol

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:09 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:04 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm Ok so this discussion is going nowhere but

1) if I'm worried someone is going to catch me as scum I have a few options, including pocketing, nightkilling or just plain ignoring them. Asking my partner to loverize them and then bussing my partner is a pretty absurd theory. It makes more sense to just nightkill you in that scenario. At any rate, I had enough clout in the game that desperation plays like that don't make sense regardless. You aren't exeing me on D2.

If this is Alison speaking, you legit didn't do any of those things in GoC when you were 3P. In fact, in that game, you resorted to tactics that you open admitted to never using before -- thus, I don't trust any argument you make where you say you would or wouldn't do something as scum.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 2) If I came into the day planning to bus H&V I wouldn't out a readslist having them as a townread early on in D2.

Poop had them as a townread, too, early on in D2, before sudden pairing me and H&V up as a possible V/W pair. I'll ask you the same thing that I asked Poop -- why did you suddenly have a townread on them coming into D2? What did you find that was towny? The reason I ask this is that they were practically ignored D1. Nobody really talked about them or talked to them.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 3) I think a lot of the characteristics you're identifying as opportunistic are like, just the way nutella and I play. We see scummy shit, we jump on it. If someone claims a night action that is absolutely anti-town, I'm going to vote that person until I get a good explanation for why they did it. I don't know if it's a playstyle clash or what that's causing you to view that as scummy, but I personally believe town should not hold back from making forceful pushes when new info crops up, or when someone makes a really wolfy post.

In general I think you're (as Mac loves to say) jumping the shark. The stuff you're saying is scummy for us is literally just the way we play.

So, you'd jump on it, even if it results in OUR death, too? This is why I'm skeptical of you doing it specifically in H&V's case. Chopping or killing H&V is just a roundabout way to kill me without having to call me scummy.

- Hyena

None of what you're saying here seems meaningful except broadly as a description of how Alison and nutella play/approach the game

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm Ok so this discussion is going nowhere but

1) if I'm worried someone is going to catch me as scum I have a few options, including pocketing, nightkilling or just plain ignoring them. Asking my partner to loverize them and then bussing my partner is a pretty absurd theory. It makes more sense to just nightkill you in that scenario. At any rate, I had enough clout in the game that desperation plays like that don't make sense regardless. You aren't exeing me on D2.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 2) If I came into the day planning to bus H&V I wouldn't out a readslist having them as a townread early on in D2.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 3) I think a lot of the characteristics you're identifying as opportunistic are like, just the way nutella and I play. We see scummy shit, we jump on it. If someone claims a night action that is absolutely anti-town, I'm going to vote that person until I get a good explanation for why they did it. I don't know if it's a playstyle clash or what that's causing you to view that as scummy, but I personally believe town should not hold back from making forceful pushes when new info crops up, or when someone makes a really wolfy post.

In general I think you're (as Mac loves to say) jumping the shark. The stuff you're saying is scummy for us is literally just the way we play.

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:25 pm [VOTE: Mana] aubergine

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:25 pm my life goal is to rand masons with nanook

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 12:45 pm @Akemi Hazelnut
@Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
@Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
@Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
@Mana (Made & Dana)
@Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
@The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy) - killed n1 - town vig
@Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
@TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)
@Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
@trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)

everyone tell me your meta please!!!

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:22 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:22 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:21 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:20 pm my janitorial duties

holy SHIT is that a fucking SCUMSLIP

when the n1 flip comes up cleaned dont look at me pls

I was going back to quote some Mana posts from D1 to explain why I scumread them and found this gem

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:48 pm I think I made it pretty clear when I was moving my vote without alison's input, hyena i think youre reading too much into things that are unrelated

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:37 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:35 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 pm BT's 4 voters - Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough
Mana's 3 voters - Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions
TwoAndThrough's 4 voters - Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text
TSPIC voter - The Walrus
No voters - Falcon

Hmmm. The Walrus then dies? Only voter on the TSPIC wagon. Probably never a wolf kill they would make it's too obvious.
Mana wagon is very pure.
But Mana is voting for BT in a tie. If Mana wagon is pure >rand wolf and that means their vote is >rand on a town.
So if Mana is a wolf, and TAT WAS a wolf, then the other teammate is probably either trans rights or Akemi Hazelnut, or an absent FalconKnows I guess?
But Akemi Hazelnut is currently operating inside that very POE so it's almost certainly not them. Trans Rights also playing the POE game in a tight window.
Makes me think TAT is always a wolf. Which strongly clears all the TAT voters. But then why did none of them die? Why kill The Walrus? Perhaps @Bottom Text did you actually get an action in?

Doesn't QUITE stack up. So what if TAT AND BT are both town. The janitoring might be a passive (no flips til you die) wolf role maybe.
Mana wolf equity is through the roof no matter what. I take TSPIC and Julinook as town for it. I take the kill as pure wifom. I take the mafia teammates of mana to be probably Falcon and ONE active wolf in this case.
I think this makes the most sense. Falcon + someone getting more townreads, that isn't on the Mana wagon. I feel like ... Timsup2gettingserious profiles.

So, I talked to Syn, and he's okay with me revealing what happened to us last night.

H&V loverized us last night. We've got a lover chat with them right now. I've been going back and forth whether I fully trust them or not because I don't understand why they thought we wouldn't be considered a potential NK after the amount of townreads we got D1?

Wait

this is

outing?

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 11:10 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:56 pm ngl i think outting that you were loverized was terrible play especially given the gamestate but whatever

yeah i kinda agree

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:41 pm Their contributions to the game before the "excuse for contributing nothing" post:

- Asking who to bully, and then saying they're down to bully Tim. Asserts later that there's no reasoning behind the bullying.
- Asking "why" in response to TSPIC voting them.
- TSPIC asks if they have any thoughts, they say they don't really have any.
- H&V accuses them of having a scum post, they say "nah" and leave it at that.

That's literally it. I don't care how deep you want to read into the line about bullying Tim, it's not contributing in my book and it certainly doesn't justify a "welp, I have nothing. Peace!" post.

Re: the third post not being scummy because Made is a similar player to you and you always do these things as town, sure, but I'm not sure how you expect me to make that read or why you're upset that I didn't reach the same conclusion on it.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:45 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:40 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:36 pm trans rights is my top town

What do you think about Alison and Nutella then? :3 They think you two are NOT TvT.

I didn't read that or really care. They seem fine from my skimming

why didnt you care

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:53 pm alison can't stop me yolo

[VOTE: bottom text] aubergine

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:55 pm Hmm. Nutella, what do you make of Bottom Text admitting that they were lying to me?

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:04 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:55 pm Hmm. Nutella, what do you make of Bottom Text admitting that they were lying to me?

don't love it. they don't seem interested in solving me and it smells of tmi / accepting that i'll just be obvtown and not worth fighting

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:30 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:41 pm Wait, we have two votes? tf?

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:00 pm I bias towards thinking most day 1 death matches are t/t so w/o reading it closely, i think transrights and bottom text are probably town. Bouncing off of that, wagonomics says I should give a closer look at poop to see if that's a wolf trying to push a civvie death match, so i'mma do that really quick

These were the three posts that pinged me about Mana's entrance.

The first post is performative and meaningless. It's like they're giving off this affronted "what the hell is going on, how dare you vote us when we have been so townie" post that feels super fake to me. It's page 16, you have two votes, there was zero need for this post.

The second post is a pre-emptive excuse for contributing nothing. I find it hard to believe that a townie has literal nothing to say at that point in time, but even if that was the case I'd expect some attempt to try to force their way into the game or get a lead. "I don't have anything, sorry, shrug, I'm out" is not a townie mindset.

Third post has extremely sketchy wording ("looking for a scapegoat") and I'm not convinced their FK push was based on anything at all, I thought the entrance was fine, even townie, and I have not seen anything from Mana that refutes that. They're just drive by dropping a spicy read with no followup.

Fourth post is a super premature read. They're calling TR/BT both villagers without reading the interaction closely, and going as far as to suspect Poop for trying to push a V/V thunderdome. There doesn't seem to be anything connecting premise to conclusion or any way they could have of getting from A to B other than TMI, other than a throwaway line about being biased towards assuming early thunderdomes are V/V shoehorned in.

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:29 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:29 pm hyena: "x has randed wolf a bunch of times lately they must be wolf"
also hyena: "y hasnt randed wolf in a while they must be wolf"

peak comedy

You're welcome. <3

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:39 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:32 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:15 pm Me thinks BT and TR is TvTZ
Me see what Binoo thinksZ

I think I saw a couple people mention that there's one scum between BT and TR? What are your reads on those people? :P

Here's one hydra that said it, for example:

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:53 pm alright it's time for my branded early bad idea level1 dichotomy read that everyone should probably ignore

one in transrights/bottomtext

What do you think about Nutella+Alison's alignment? :3

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Also,

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:55 pm now i want to figure out what that means for hyena

I have no clue yet, but I ended up coming away from my Vanity+Mist interactions liking them okay!

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:52 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:50 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:45 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:40 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:36 pm trans rights is my top town

What do you think about Alison and Nutella then? :3 They think you two are NOT TvT.

I didn't read that or really care. They seem fine from my skimming

why didnt you care

I didn't read it so I had no thoughts and I don't really cause I don't see why it would matter

I'm not rly going to go back to read stuff unless you show me the posts btw hyena lol

I think you're bullshitting and didn't even skim their posts.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:10 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:08 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:02 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:22 pm My concern is that you are fishing for a "god read" from someone who knows you well that you will then try to ride past the rest of us when we try to read you off...I dunno, wolfy behavior?

If someone has a god read on her and she's wolf then wouldn't this have a very obvious chance of backfiring

... Are you scum with Mist? Was your restart of your scumread on me a reaction to me correctly telling Mist which fairy pokemon she hadn't signed as yet?

No. My scumread on you was a reaction to you being scummy.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:16 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:15 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:10 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:08 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:02 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:22 pm My concern is that you are fishing for a "god read" from someone who knows you well that you will then try to ride past the rest of us when we try to read you off...I dunno, wolfy behavior?

If someone has a god read on her and she's wolf then wouldn't this have a very obvious chance of backfiring

... Are you scum with Mist? Was your restart of your scumread on me a reaction to me correctly telling Mist which fairy pokemon she hadn't signed as yet?

No. My scumread on you was a reaction to you being scummy.

That was your initial reason, yeah, but then you went and posted a bunch of other stuff, only to come back and out of nowhere make a stronger push on me. Why didn't you come in with that sort of strength when you initially scumread me? :P

That was not me, that was nutella.

The push on you for an awkward scumread on trans rights is the first post I have made this game.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:18 pm Town: FalconKnows, julinook, Poop Explosions

Scum: Timsup2gettinserious, TwoAndThrough, Toopy and Binoo

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:46 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:54 pm i think hyena's slot is villagery for now

~klefki

Why?

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:47 pm i was softening on hyena before alison got back but she's convincing me again in chat aa

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:58 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:54 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:47 pm i was softening on hyena before alison got back but she's convincing me again in chat aa

I don't understand how you can recognize when I'm baiting people in one game and then not recognize when I'm doing it in another.

if youre referring to the van/mist thing that specifically i didn't take as seriously as alison does lol but your entrance and tone set me off

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:42 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:25 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:19 pm

Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:17 pm I don't have any reads

my only read is that your slot has already demonstrated hydra dissonance(tm) to the extent to where it might be wolfy

I kinda want to scumread this.

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:34 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:32 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:28 pm [VOTE: Timsup2gettinserious] aubergine

Points to whoever tells me why

theyre dissonant and hate that another hydra is being scumread for dissonance

Y'all are bad. I'm scumreading Van and Mist because they're Van and Mist. <3

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:35 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:34 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:32 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:28 pm [VOTE: Timsup2gettinserious] aubergine

Points to whoever tells me why

theyre dissonant and hate that another hydra is being scumread for dissonance

Y'all are bad. I'm scumreading Van and Mist because they're Van and Mist. <3

They were scum together in the two previous mashes on MU, so I'm betting they are scum again here, as a hydra. <3

Awkward/hesitant scumread -> increasingly worse explanations when asked to justify it. You are a wolf.

[VOTE: Timsup2gettinserious] aubergine

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:33 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:32 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:28 pm [VOTE: Timsup2gettinserious] aubergine

Points to whoever tells me why

theyre dissonant and hate that another hydra is being scumread for dissonance

Eerily specific and wrong

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:34 pm [VOTE: timsup2gettinserious] aubergine

well i like my reasoning anyway

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:52 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:24 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:39 pm I think trans rights overthinking Esooa's post this deeply is probably villagery

Also Mana is an obvious wolf

Okay, so, it looks like this read on Mana was given sometime after the last post I quoted from Mana, but before the next one they made?

Why did you call Mana an obvious wolf at this point? Everything in their ISO up to this point (aside from the stuff that I -just- resolved to be likely towny) seems extremely towny to me. There wasn't any mech stuff surrounding Mana at this point.

Have you read their EOD