The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:48 pm Actually, [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:47 pm [VOTE: WURZ] aubergine
2/3 scum @lost monkey

My reads are shit until they're awesome

lol

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:40 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:37 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:37 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:33 pm Cop and tracker, holy shit.
The cop was very weak. It only indicated whether the target had an ability, not if it was used, what it was, its alignment, etc.
I think the issue with that is that the cop would have mostly outed myself/Wurzel in the late game anyway.
cop would have investigated you as roleblocker, wurzel as vigilante, and marmot as VT. it wouldn't out you unless you've been using your role in a blatantly anti town manner

There was no way town would be given doc and roleblocker, so hw would have been caught there.

Ender kill was a bad choice tbh, it directly pointed to wurzel.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:37 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:33 pm Cop and tracker, holy shit.
The cop was very weak. It only indicated whether the target had an ability, not if it was used, what it was, its alignment, etc.

Ah okay.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:34 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:33 pm Cop and tracker, holy shit.
Yeah I was not expecting to get screwed over after an obvious town made a clearly legitimate investigative claim.

Yeah quite sad really.

Tim and Alison well played. Wiml really unlucky bro.

Cop and tracker, holy shit.

I really thought falcon was scum lol, the game ended I still can't believe he is town.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:29 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:27 pm rest in peace wiml i thought you were town
Thanks! I wanted to N1 Tim lol. I had already anticipated his reads.

Wurzel's vigi claim was prepared in advance to survive him until D3 and get bussed.

We were not prepared for a second investigative role after Gavial claimed.

It would have been wasted, I protected tim n1.

Though I expected there to be 4 scum.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:15 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:14 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:11 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:09 pm Tbf I think we maybe have the kills to just potentially sweep the game now hopefully?
Not sure. Only if we assume Don Wurzel and Falcon are always town here.

I think we still keep evaluating the game.
Wurzel has high mafia equity and definitely needs to be killed this game imo, those end game wagons actually feel s/s to me in hindsight

Hopefully orange eats a modkill though
What If Wurzel actually ends up being town vig, what then?
We miskilled? Idk what the point of this question is or what you're looking for sorry

He has been saying that there is a possibility that there are two vigs, where as you are saying there is only one, what happens if wurzel is town.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:13 pm How long did ydrasse not post for till modkill?

I don't think we should be discussing about modkills.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:11 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:09 pm Tbf I think we maybe have the kills to just potentially sweep the game now hopefully?
Not sure. Only if we assume Don Wurzel and Falcon are always town here.

I think we still keep evaluating the game.
Wurzel has high mafia equity and definitely needs to be killed this game imo, those end game wagons actually feel s/s to me in hindsight

Hopefully orange eats a modkill though

What If Wurzel actually ends up being town vig, what then?

Did orange post this game day?

Falcon is still scum

Damn marmot was actually scum.

I am on the fence on this though, my heart says this wrong but my mind says this is right. What a dilemma?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:51 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:49 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:27 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 pm Rather than scum i think wurzel has high equity of being the SK.
Yeah that's a wild ass out of the blue notion with no real reasoning, starting from the assumption that there is a serial killer.
Other than this nothing else fit for me seeing 2 vig kills.
Yeah, Syn has used a mafia vig before.

ah okay. [VOTE: wurzel] aubergine

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:27 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 pm Rather than scum i think wurzel has high equity of being the SK.
Yeah that's a wild ass out of the blue notion with no real reasoning, starting from the assumption that there is a serial killer.

Other than this nothing else fit for me seeing 2 vig kills.

Rather than scum i think wurzel has high equity of being the SK.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:05 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:00 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:52 pm
Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm Creature laid out Wurzel's claim and logic pretty reasonably earlier.

@falcon45ca
So is Duskfall a wolf, or are you saying the town got two vigs and apparently a protective role that stopped a wolf kill, a cop (already flipped), and a tracker (Creature)?

I am not buying that, so one of the vig claims is a mafia vig.

Which one?
The thing between the two kills is one is based on progression and the other is based on being scum read by the main posters.
One is claimed as a hero shot, the other is a plain POE shot. Admittedly, a plain POE shot is easy for a wolf to make and claim.

The question about Wurzel's progression is whether you think Wurzel is confident enough in his own reads to take a hero shot there.

This is my first game with both so i cant assume that. If i am forced to choose the poe shot looks better rather than the hero shot by wurzel. But then a day vig given to town is unusual as well when compared to night shot.

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:01 pm Evening All

Sorry for not being around today - been doing some important RL stuff

Going to catch up now

Can someone sum up the cases against Falcon and Marmot please

Marmot is lurking, unhelpful and all of falcon's scum reads have been town.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:52 pm
Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm Creature laid out Wurzel's claim and logic pretty reasonably earlier.

@falcon45ca
So is Duskfall a wolf, or are you saying the town got two vigs and apparently a protective role that stopped a wolf kill, a cop (already flipped), and a tracker (Creature)?

I am not buying that, so one of the vig claims is a mafia vig.

Which one?

The thing between the two kills is one is based on progression and the other is based on being scum read by the main posters.

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 3] Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:41 pmTown Villager lol

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:41 pmTown Villager

lol

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:32 pm Falcon claimed with no pressure on D1. Feels like town 2 me.

Claimed what?

Marmot probably town, sig and falcon probably scum together.

When I am here no one is here lol.

I rather lynch sig over marmot, seeing Alison had him as possible scum and his reads seem opportunistic currently.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:36 pm It makes so much sense Wurzel would shoot Ender here and doesn't feel like wolf trying to patch up a kill. Also Wurzel has been actively trying to solve the game Ender-style.

lol already did the iso on D2 and came to this conclusion already.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:17 pm I could also do lost monkey because I see their name in Who is online every single time and they aren't doing shit.

Dude i dont know if you are in your own world or just skim posts, how many times do i have to say my tab is open always. This is post at 3:00 AM for me.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:21 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:17 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:16 pm I could get behind killing Nanook.
Same, but Marmot is more obvious.
Marmot is coming around in fairly standard Marmot fashion, given his late start from the sub in. He's certainly POE but I'd give him another day over Nanook, and my own favorites.

I agree with this.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:06 pmWho's Sterling?

Football player

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:57 pm Evening All!

Well that's 90 minutes of my life I'm never getting back. What a crock of shit!

I felt the same way, Sterling was shit.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:44 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:24 am I don't how falcon is still a town read seeing all his scum reads ended up being town, me included.
Maybe that's the part you don't get, town are wrong on their reads. Cuz' they don't know what's going on.

Nah they are usually atleast right on one, not all of them like you and you targeted only the ones who were getting flak from atleast 2 to 3 in the thread. I can understand that town have off days but your progression on gav/ydr makes me think differently.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:07 am Final thought for now:

At least the lack of a kill shows I’m not a SK whoever said that. Sadly I’m only one shot though

That was me and if you were the sk not shooting yesterday night would have been the best decision.

I don't how falcon is still a town read seeing all his scum reads ended up being town, me included.

Herm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:17 pm Lost D. Monkey maybe scum?

Nah

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:00 pm Not sure if my result is really helpful

Better than nothing.

Falcon is probably scum but i dont think that lynch will be happening today.

Orange needs to post more.

Wurzel has more chances of being the sk than scum.

My reads have been fire this game, sad to see i got wiml wrong though. Well played wiml.

Wanna say i didn't like tim's push on wurzel using alison as scapegoat. Alison could have even tried lynching me today.

[VOTE: wiml] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:19 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:37 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:36 pm LoMo not voting me when he's got me as lock scum is a horrible look, how is that towny? He's waiting to see what wagon to join
Bro me voting. not voting is nai to know my alignment, i have had a scum and town game here. I accused nutella of being scum in the crossover game and i was the first to do it and i was not the first to vote her though. I didnt vote owner even though she was scum, like unless i deem i need to, i wont.

This checks out. In Elder Scrolls as scum, LoMo didn't vote Days 1, 2, and I think 4. As town in the crossover game, LoMo didn't vote Days 2, 3, and 6.

Why do you not vote every day?

Sometimes i want to but not there during eod, sometimes i forget, sometimes i feel i don't need to, sometimes i feel what is the use of voting.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:00 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:36 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:01 am LoMo can you talk me through the explanations for a couple of reads of your choice please?
sure which ones?
Anything you haven't talked about in length but feel strongly about please!

There is not much but I got weirded out by both wurzel and herms read list.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:51 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:45 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:41 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:38 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:08 am I think lomo is getting a pass because honestly id give a pass to anyone who is playing the game rn
lol no, if you think i am scum over falcon, you should just go with it and vote.
this unironically is a scummy post i think even though you vs falcon was something that never even crossed my mind till now as something that needed to contain mafia

voting orange rn
I dont know why it hasnt crossed your mind to something obvious in the thread but its okay. For me i dont see falcon being town and i think he feels the same way. The faster we end that, the faster we proceed.
in my experience and ive a lot of experience with this

two way tunnels at each other are bad and selfish play, very anti town, its optimal for the players to take a step back if others dont want to vote there and save your read for later not trying force town into kill your read or kill you

maybe youre right but maybe youre town with 1 wrong read, and the same for falcon

and if thats the case then forcing into killing one then the other is p much auto lose at this point, why should everyone else in the game decide to not be able to read the other 10 players in the game just because you cant discipline yourself and try solve the whole game instead of tunneling?

I have no problem with taking a step back but will eventually come to it. Who are we lynching then herm? Orange? Wurzel? Nanook?

I read through herm's post not much there.

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:28 pm TOP 3 TOWN READS

Falcon - - - Claim with no pressure

Gavial/Ydrasse - - - Scumhunted right out of the bat, confident in reads, other posts feels like town, confident in reading me as town!!!

Wiml - - - questions me why I townread him makes me townread him even more, scum would not question other players townreading them, I didn't have a read on him when he voted me though

TOP 3 SCUM READS

Wurzel - - - catched up, explains why he had to catch up, says he's going to post reads, does this, disappears. Rinse, repeat. He was scumread by Alison pretty early, bit not sure if it's distancing or genuine yet. Sounds like Wurzel is scum to me though.

KZA - - - I haven't seen much town posts from her yet so slotting her down in the scum category for now. She did go to a party that she didn't enjoy and was confused by my post on Dolby at one point, but not sure if that is wolfy or nonwolfy.

Dolby/Sig - - - Probably scum

This read list is weird tbh.

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