The Syndicate

So yeah I’d say keep doing what ur doing tbh

Nah I’d say today’s yeet is far from settled, especially if yesterday was anything to go by. The best thing we need rn is a fresh pair of competent eyes like yours to give us new insight

Woulda trd u for it *

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:35 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:34 am Vulguard did you read anything from today before u started reading from scratch?
Nothing.
I figured I should start the same way everyone else did, from page 1.
Should I not?

Yuppp u should

Though if u said yes I probably woulda trd for it for a specific reason

Vulguard did you read anything from today before u started reading from scratch?

The interesting thing is, if I were to take alexa and LC as town that means the wolves had almost no presence the entire start of the game and have just been relying on town to self implode

What’s the bussing culture like here? Do most people tend to be very anti-bus like MU? I’m asking for reasons

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:28 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:17 am fwiw if you're town you should vote for LC because nanook /will/ (probably) hammer and if you're town that's like ~always~ a hit
if you're a wolf you should do it too but idk
If LC's a wolf then lolme townreading him already when I didn't know they were outed (?)

How are they outed and how does it relate to me being town?
so basically i'm town alexa and ilario are hard townclearing each other and nanook well we're calling him towny today for reasons (nobody can read nanook but i think it's a good reason)

so like
numbers
And I assume if LC flips V then we're re-evaluating tomorrow, and if LC flips W then we're finding the partner?

The latter might actually be something I can help with. This is already painful, I'm 100 pages behind, but anyone can read a wolf's ISO.

The issue with that is, if LC is town then ur essentially walking into tomorrow blind after the flip

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:26 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:13 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm eh you don't kill ilario because nanook and tsp are liable to go full on mac sheep
macs read on me wasnt real
he was thinking emotionally instead of logically because half the lobby treated him like an outed wolf for no reasons,and thats why i specifically knew he was town. because ive been in his position where people paranoia-fos me or fearfos me and then u start reading with ego.
i mean i sorta agree and i don't really know why everyone decided to chop mac for no reason at eod yesterday if apparently you all knew he was town
i think only me and nanook trd him, and he was gunning hard for me so i sorta got very confused and didnt know what to do with it since it all happened right before eod.
you could have voted for someone else tbh

The problem is I didn’t have a sure sr so if I CWd onto another town, then scum has all the incentive to join me and yeeet the town. And that we run the risk of repeating d2 all over again

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:54 am Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there
i agree tbh and said as much whenever ago but Alexa was reevaluating on lime (don't know how that's going)
Oh, so that's the situation.

Can you hold off on killing Wiml and read my posts, or is it pointless for me to post? The slot is town.

its not pointless, i found the slot town for most of the game. im still re-evaluating since i started from scratch but from my one experience with you you're very obvious town when ur town anyways (i still regret the tinfoil LOL that was moreso my bad than anything u did)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:13 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm eh you don't kill ilario because nanook and tsp are liable to go full on mac sheep
macs read on me wasnt real
he was thinking emotionally instead of logically because half the lobby treated him like an outed wolf for no reasons,and thats why i specifically knew he was town. because ive been in his position where people paranoia-fos me or fearfos me and then u start reading with ego.
i mean i sorta agree and i don't really know why everyone decided to chop mac for no reason at eod yesterday if apparently you all knew he was town

i think only me and nanook trd him, and he was gunning hard for me so i sorta got very confused and didnt know what to do with it since it all happened right before eod.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:49 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:45 am hey vulgard!

LOL im surprised u noticed the one l, thats how it was spelt on EM. im just grabbing dinner but ill try fill u in the game in a little bit
Hi!

You need to make an account on another site and call it illlario, to complete the trinity.

LOLLLL

Oh btw to fill u in quickly, your slot has been in contention to be voted out on most days. If I had to take a gambit on who I thought today’s wagons would come down to by eod it would probably be your slot vs LCs

Had a quick look at the VC, it’s very strange that LC opened up with a massive case on nanook and neither seems too bothered by it? Their votes aren’t even on each other rn...

hey vulgard!

LOL im surprised u noticed the one l, thats how it was spelt on EM. im just grabbing dinner but ill try fill u in the game in a little bit

ironically enough i shielded u and mac more than anyone this game, since i tend to shield my townreads and its paramount for townreads, and this might come as a surprise to you, actually work together to win.

and u were in deck mafia where alexa was tunneling me at the start and made a shit tonne of memes about me being mafia.

and u read the game after that where we spent an entire day phase going at each other when i was scum.

or that i opened this game thinking she was scummy.

i dont think you realise what the word precedent means?

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:16 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:12 am I quite literally just said above that ur probably town. Where did I shield her btw? You’re finding excuses to be upset and I don’t appreciate the passive aggressive comments.
You're acting like I'm annoyed for getting scumread. Which isn't the case.

I'm talking about you mutually shielding each other every single game. It's an obvious precedent.

find me where i shielded her.

this might actually get u to read the game and stop sulking

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:04 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:59 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:45 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:00 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:17 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:14 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm Alexa if you're the third wolf in any world where I'm a wolf then fine.

But we just kill the ayer you're hard shielding with completely different pushes to you for most of the day.
read my posts and tell me i'm shielding ilario any more than i'm shielding esooa? the only reason it's obvious is because NO ONE else sussed esooa. this discussion is pointless. if you're arguing that esooa was ever a plausible push then prove it
I know you. I know you woukd never in a million years let illario get chopped here regardless of his alignment lol.
i feel like wiml is overplaying how much he knows how we play?

and idk if its coming from a place of a cocky town or just a mafia spouting bs?

because im reading all his posts and im like ????

ive only ever been lynched once in a pre-lylo situation since i started playing FM and that was purely because i got death tunneled by alexa for tinfoiling her.

she would absolutely push me if she thought i had a scum alignment
I really don't think you and alexa are aware of your reputation lol.
im aware, i just dont let what salty people who seek to spread negativity affect what i know is the truth. you really should stop trying to make the game personal when im trying to keep it game related.
Don't question it if you know what I'm saying is true anyway then?

Because yeah there's no world where you're t/t where I leave you both alive in a game with 7 players and expect you to do anything besides hard shield the other.

im questioning it because it isnt true lol

I quite literally just said above that ur probably town. Where did I shield her btw? You’re finding excuses to be upset and I don’t appreciate the passive aggressive comments.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:45 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:00 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:17 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:14 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm Alexa if you're the third wolf in any world where I'm a wolf then fine.

But we just kill the ayer you're hard shielding with completely different pushes to you for most of the day.
read my posts and tell me i'm shielding ilario any more than i'm shielding esooa? the only reason it's obvious is because NO ONE else sussed esooa. this discussion is pointless. if you're arguing that esooa was ever a plausible push then prove it
I know you. I know you woukd never in a million years let illario get chopped here regardless of his alignment lol.
i feel like wiml is overplaying how much he knows how we play?

and idk if its coming from a place of a cocky town or just a mafia spouting bs?

because im reading all his posts and im like ????

ive only ever been lynched once in a pre-lylo situation since i started playing FM and that was purely because i got death tunneled by alexa for tinfoiling her.

she would absolutely push me if she thought i had a scum alignment
I really don't think you and alexa are aware of your reputation lol.

im aware, i just dont let what salty people who seek to spread negativity affect what i know is the truth. you really should stop trying to make the game personal when im trying to keep it game related.

hmmm might be something we can talk about better in post game

i think people are just on edge and it may be for multiple of reasons and thats affecting how everyone interacts with each other

But i plan to do what I did in vtubers and do a complete reset and start from scratch and actually read people again

My dilemma is do I do it today or do it in lylo if I make it when there’s less people to read which makes my life easier

Meaning ur my only townread

And my gut instinct was to call nanook town too due toreasons

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:04 am @ilario why do you think wiml’s town?

I’m mostly starting from scratch today

Hmmmmm I kinda LC was reading for partners while casing nanook

That’s somewhat towny

LMAOOOOOO it just dawned on me how hypocritical it is for me to push LC earlier in the game to fos and case people and then my knee jerk reaction is to think he’s scum when I see him do it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:15 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:03 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:55 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:54 am Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there
Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao
Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.
he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao
Meh he didn't manage anything nearly that high effort in the joat game we just played where he was scum, iirc

Do you think that regardless of his alignment he would be more likely inclined to high effort given the nature of this particular lobby?

And that’s partly what’s dictating my vote atm

Also i do think the why is alexa/Illario tinfoil alive mostly pretty needless atm

I do think the greater question of why is alexa/ilario alive if BOTH lc and wiml are town is another question that’s probably more relevant here

^ Fwiw I mostly did that Vote for emphasis at the time

I’ll re-eval once I read lc’s case though

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

actually nah, wiml is probs just town

id say its lc as wolf

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:17 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:14 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm Alexa if you're the third wolf in any world where I'm a wolf then fine.

But we just kill the ayer you're hard shielding with completely different pushes to you for most of the day.
read my posts and tell me i'm shielding ilario any more than i'm shielding esooa? the only reason it's obvious is because NO ONE else sussed esooa. this discussion is pointless. if you're arguing that esooa was ever a plausible push then prove it
I know you. I know you woukd never in a million years let illario get chopped here regardless of his alignment lol.

i feel like wiml is overplaying how much he knows how we play?

and idk if its coming from a place of a cocky town or just a mafia spouting bs?

because im reading all his posts and im like ????

ive only ever been lynched once in a pre-lylo situation since i started playing FM and that was purely because i got death tunneled by alexa for tinfoiling her.

she would absolutely push me if she thought i had a scum alignment

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:16 pm i think nanook telling lime to call his vote is maybe arbitrarily nagl

why

i can find more quotes of mac townreading me than i can find of him scumreading me if i bothered to look in his iso, and every time he srd me its when he was acting up.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:13 pm eh you don't kill ilario because nanook and tsp are liable to go full on mac sheep

macs read on me wasnt real
he was thinking emotionally instead of logically because half the lobby treated him like an outed wolf for no reasons,and thats why i specifically knew he was town. because ive been in his position where people paranoia-fos me or fearfos me and then u start reading with ego.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:48 pm i have ilario's ISO open and i still feel beyond confident that he's a villager. i can case it if needed but like i'm pretty sure if you engage with him at all you'll see it..

i doon't know why we're both alive. i can only assume it's because we're loud thread voices who have been pushing terrible reads and scum only needs one more ML to LYLO. if we're both alive in LYLO i'll spot-check more

HEYYYYYYY i take offence to this

tbh i havent pushed much this game i been chillin i said mac was town and i unvoted of trans until he gave up but thats more of a policy thing for me

that being said i probably have a terrible read somewhere in my iso

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:03 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:02 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 am nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa
Hell yeah
Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?
A townread from anyone is worthy of a hell yeah

LMAOO ur growing on me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:55 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:54 am Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there
Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao
Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 am nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa
Hell yeah

Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:58 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:55 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 am nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa
Hell yeah
We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?
Meh we can work it out tomorrow, I want to see nk first

The only world the nk isn’t me or alexa this game is if the team is exactly me/alexa.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:54 am Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 am nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa
Hell yeah

We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:30 pm Also the fact that alexa and ilario are both still alive atp pretty strongly suggests one of them is mafia
that's pretty not true, ilario and i have been left alive for awhile as t/t because we were either pushing wrong reads or people were pushing on us

and alison was, as you noted, a common N1 kill
and Syn was a wildcard who subbed into a universally townread slot

like yeah it makes me want to re-val him but i don't think it strongly suggests anything. in fact he tends to kill me pretty early when he's scum because he feels bad manipulating me, i can show you examples
I think any team with players who are experienced with you and illario would never allow you both to be alive in F7 if t/t, only because even if your reasons for townreading each other are bad I think I have literally never seen you reevaluate each other once locked in for like the 10+ games we've played together.
Has one of them ever gotten the other wrong
EM players are historically dreadful at misclearing each other lol but I think alexa/illario are pretty good at reading each other correctly (or at least alexa is at illario, I've never seen wolf alexa town illario before).

Fwiw that illario wolf game I linked you ages ago ended recently where alexa initially tunneled him really hard but came round to calling him 95% likely town. She was wrong in the end but her confidence in him being town was a lot less than it was here.

This is also the reason why I said my illario read was out of my wolfrange yesterday but that's another topic.

Last time she had a wolf game that I was speccing

I saw two posts and messaged her on discord

“Ur mafia”

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:30 pm Also the fact that alexa and ilario are both still alive atp pretty strongly suggests one of them is mafia
that's pretty not true, ilario and i have been left alive for awhile as t/t because we were either pushing wrong reads or people were pushing on us

and alison was, as you noted, a common N1 kill
and Syn was a wildcard who subbed into a universally townread slot

like yeah it makes me want to re-val him but i don't think it strongly suggests anything. in fact he tends to kill me pretty early when he's scum because he feels bad manipulating me, i can show you examples

I wouldn’t kill u too early though because I’m bias and want u to have fun

I would probably kill u just before lylo

You don’t need to worry though cos I’m town this game

And yeah ur probs dying tonight regardless of who maf is (which is unironically right before lylo if we misyeet

Never seen lime make such a big case like that before lols

Could explain why me and Alexa are alive

Scum!lime sees me and Alexa willing to vote nanook Yesterday
Decides to make a big case overnight
Hopes we yeet nanook

Plan backfires and lime gets flipped
Turns out I was right about the slip

also mac, i was right on u

its not tmi

its me being the goat

for gamestate reasons

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

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