The Syndicate

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:44 pm Yeah sorry about the lack of isos

I modded almost the entire game on my phone and its very hard to do isos on it
oh man!. no way. dude! I couldn't imagine hosting via mobile. that's real dedication. thank you ♡♡

When my game comes out I’ll also be hosting on mobile because I own a phone and not a PC.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:01 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:59 pm They be voted anyway
Wy what do you want exactly

I wanna win.
Can I have it?

@DaisyCloud

You allowed Poison and Tim to go with you.
This is horrible and this will result in a town loss.
Your going to vote TSP with them and Hog/HK are going to throw Falcon and Marmot down so you can vote some more Obv town off.
Like dang.

Why TSP Why

Poison/Tim/Alison and Alison be voted by Mafia to break tie.
Lol whhhhhyyyy Daisy?!?

They be voted anyway

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:43 pm All voting made is going to do is create a tie and allow mafia to live happily ever after.
all made has done is talk about not liking he is null and he seems to be keeping his mouth shut about his scum reads and town reads. all he did is vote MacDougall.

if he is town like u say then shouldn't he be using his votes and leaving legacy type posts in case he is lynched? where is he now? isn't eod just as important to town as it is to scum? more do for town?

Ok but we ain’t gonna be able to get them in 10 Mins and I want Poison gone.

@DaisyCloud
I know you have your reads and everything but I’d suggest voting off the person who wins the ties tomorrow because that player is most likely mafia.

Town being lazy.
We gonna lose cause of rest of town.

All voting made is going to do is create a tie and allow mafia to live happily ever after.

Poison has more scum equity with Tim!!

Mafia brakes ties and you know they gonna kill me off because they are scared of me.
@TonyStarkPrime
Don’t let em!

@TonyStarkPrime
If your still here Unvote me please.

@Spacedaisy
Vote Poison please.
I don’t want to be dead and have a scum poison alive.

Tim and Daisy are against you and probably Poison too.
I’m trying to help you.

@TonyStarkPrime
I’m saving your butt and your voting me.
Why?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:10 pm but like actually it really hard to ground myself in a game when no one has any strong takes on me, and i guess it makes sense for that to be the case in a Double Elimination Mafia situation, but at the same time, I don't really get how i ended up in losers in that case considering there's other players who explicitly wanted to be in loser but didn't make it, off the top Marmot for example. His weird "imma just bottom half lol" and the fact that he's not here in losers with us makes him a top scum read for me... but he's not here, so yikes

Mac voted me, twice now but is refusing to give any sort of take on me. Dazzz sus af cuz to my memory scumMac is far more passive than that townmac. I doubt ScumMac is afraid of me persay, but i don't like the lack of interaction.

Alison has a tendency to Martyr herself as town and agressively pushing for her own death here, so keeping her alive while waiting for her reads to pay out or even just waiting for the inevitable early game night kill is enough reason for me to keep her alive for now. I think we always chop Alison Day 3.

Depending on how aware Daisy is if her own meta, she's loltown.

Gavial reads me as town which I don't really like cuz I haven't done much to deserve it, and the fact that they also want Mac and Alison dead, assuming they know enough to know of Mac and Alison's reputation here is ngl. Actually if they don't have knowledge of that, It could be BTSC informing them of that.

Tim hasn't said anything that's made me upset yet, and that's unsettling. I don't know how he died in Syn's game, so I don't know how you catch Tim, but considering he died earlyish in Stardew, a town Tim who's making sense is someone we might need to keep in loser and scum Tim might not last

I don't remember reading anything from TSP past the first page, which why i'm confused on how he made it to loser as well. This game might be solvable based on who did and didn't make it to loser, i'm gonna look there till someone tries to drag and I can fight them

No I don’t!

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:41 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:55 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:45 pm With the rate of killing here we are going to be at LYLO in very short order and cannot afford to get there with people who cannot be resolved because they aren't saying anything. So I dropped my remaining votes on TSP and Made. If one or both show up and start taking some stands so that they can be properly read I will reconsider those.
Um after what you said about made.

HELL NO.

@DaisyCloud
Get your finger off of that god tier town TSP and get your finger on a Poison vote because Poison and Tim have high fuckin scum equity.
They are open wolfing to me, I could be wrong but it looks like open wolf.

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did you read the stuff I posted about Tony? I read his iso. I will give you that most of his posts could be considered nai. but like I said I have played games with him before. and yes meta is just one tool in a list of tools. but it exists. also I don't expect him to play so safe and be so afk either.

iirc, I asked you to explain things about Tim and Tony like I lack reading comprehension and cognitive skills and you low key didn't answer.

where and when was Tim open wolfing? I'm trying to be open minded as possible here. could you quote it and bold and underline and put in the largest font setting so I may see and read it myself and reevaluate my read on Tim? I want to see his slips.

while yes somethings that Tim has said I disagree with or some stuff seems like wut the wut? I still think it's coming from a town mindset who just doesn't have all the information. and from a mindset of mafia faking as if they didn't know?

could we talk about MacDougall too? I have some doubts about him. but im thinking it is possible he is town and just resigned to his fate and letting himself get yeeted. but then again he could be mafia and was caught and is just gonna let himself be lynched to give cover to his teammates. maybe one of his teammates would be able to go deep wolf.

I'm surprised at his lack of posts. is he covering for Alison? I can see all 3 scenarios be possible.

it being TvT is least likely and not something that I want to contemplate. plus the clashing of heads or whatever was instigated by Alison not MacDougall and it seems like MacDougall mostly didn't engage. it speaks better for him as he didn't come off as overly defensive. like him confident in his townieness and others being able to see it too.

but idk, he seems to be playing it safe too and that is a side I don't recall from MacDougall.

I know it's getting close to crunch time but im not gonna take my vote off of Tony just by your say so. I need moar and I haven't seen what I need to see. not sure if I can articulate what rhst mosr is but Tony's iso lacks it.

He was only afk in his town games and very active in his scum games.
TSP is town, end of story.

I did explain about Tony to an extent.
I don’t trust Tim nor Poison.
I trust you enough to for sure have you with me Night 2.
Open wolfing as look at how Poison and Tim treat and mention each other and response to be talking about them of each other.
Ok fine if you don’t want to take your vote off Tony just make sure you vote Poison over Made.

Poison and Tim are playing you foo. Least I think so.

@TonyStarkPrime
Start doing something.
Give us your full reads list you had good one last game.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:36 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:03 pm Oh no, I hope no one scum reads me for something innocuous
....I SAAAAIIIIDDDD

I HOPE NO ONE SCUM READ ME FOR SOMETHING INNOCUOUS

Your not SR’ed.
Your just not TR’ed.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:45 pm With the rate of killing here we are going to be at LYLO in very short order and cannot afford to get there with people who cannot be resolved because they aren't saying anything. So I dropped my remaining votes on TSP and Made. If one or both show up and start taking some stands so that they can be properly read I will reconsider those.

Um after what you said about made.

HELL NO.

@DaisyCloud
Get your finger off of that god tier town TSP and get your finger on a Poison vote because Poison and Tim have high fuckin scum equity.
They are open wolfing to me, I could be wrong but it looks like open wolf.

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Alison and Mac can both be resolved.
Under normal game rules I wouldn’t be down for the 2 player resolve as it can easily be TvT but this isn’t normal game rules there is Multi Elims per phase and no night kill. Meaning there’s no downside, least not for Night 1.

Poison voting against me is lol.

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Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:36 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am I want this gone.
Never said I didn’t think Mac was sus
Never said I think Alison IS sus
look below
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am Who says I SR Alison?
I just believe the fact there is scum within them and Mac.
Alison willing to sacrifice themselves for Mac but Mac refusing to do the same.
Sus tbh.
@Gavial hmmm

Re: Angleshooting
I think people watching the thread and not replying is something that falls under "angleshooting"if I'm not wrong, at least that's what I've known from my forum and a few others.
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am Seems to like Tim. Tim and him have partner equality.
I seemed to like you too. Didn't we have a good partner equity?
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am I want you gone cause of this, gut and the fact I don’t see you doing anything this game that’s gonna really completely help town nor trust you enough to do so.
so at the end it's just gut? or you are trying hard to make a case by dodging and denying, mostly the latter. um?
Also, I'm a she.

Yeah I said I’m little sus at Mac and Null on Alison.
LOL LoOk At YoU.

Damn I said equality you knew straight away the proper term is equity, that how much you like Tim?
My point is I have you 2 as most likely scum buddies on Losers Bracket and that posts doesn’t in anyway partly dismiss it but rather increase the fact that it could be accurate.
It’s more like we decide the ones we feel will be best going into Night 2, people we can at least kinda trust and you aren’t one of them.
Also, sorry didn’t realize you were a she.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:47 am [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime ] aubergine he looks like he randed mafia and is playing it safe. yes, I read his iso.

That’s his town meta.
His scum meta is he pushes agenda and has enough content to where your conflicted on him and you clearly aren’t.
He’s also one to join a competing wagon as scum even if it’s his scum bud.
He’s just a little bit more, Y’know like Tim? But not that heavy on content per post.
I don’t know Tim’s meta but I do know Tony’s and trust me when I say this is his Town’s and Marmot’s too.
Trust me on this @DaisyCloud and remove your vote.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:18 am
Spoiler: show
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:34 pm @DaisyCloud Response.

@falcon45ca is derp cleared due as how he responded to @Marmot regarding the post of theirs.

Saying how it’s not VT but the Rolecard says town. The way he responded to it felt like town knowing and thinking this.
Last game Esooa did something similar where they thought they were town as I’ll admit the role PM never stated you were town.
Falcon questioned it and I SR’ed him that entire game until we lost and he was town and then he hated me for it.
Yet I voted Esooa anyway so LOL. I like to vote IC’s I guess.

Who says I SR Alison?
I just believe the fact there is scum within them and Mac.
Alison willing to sacrifice themselves for Mac but Mac refusing to do the same.
Sus tbh.

Tim is more of a gut then anything.
One I want to follow.

I have a smaller gut hit on Poison but that’s scum only in an Alison!Town world.

Your PoE because you aren’t ObvTown/IC?
TSP is though.

Yeah I want to take Me, Daisy, Made and TSP into Night 2.
Can you elaborate why you think alison is sus and mac not because of those line of thoughts? and why do you think I'm scum only when alison is town? @Gavial

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:42 pm Didn’t even ping Mog and they viewing thread.
Convincing me more and more Mog is scum in winners bracket.
But I’m also quite paranoid dough.
i don't think angleshooting is allowed.
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:44 pm Since when and where should you ever compare yourself to made?
I didn't. I questioned you about the fact you said nothing about him until you arrived at "yeah take Made to N2."

To me the real sort of level comparison for Made is TSP. Both are very cool heads who if town will be reliable to make well thought out decisions. Both are just pretty null reads currently who have not committed to anything that is likely to either clear or condemn them any time soon. So I think either one of them is a fine fourth, and either one of them can die.

I think Daisy is good active leadership, and I think you and I are good offsets for each other. I also think that both of us need that offset for the same general reasons that I don't think letting either Alison or Mac go forward would be a good idea.

If Daisy, TSP, and Made agree that killing Mac and Alison plus you and me is a good idea I could probably back that.
I think I wanna town read you tim!
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:07 pm I may change my vote from You to Made but I want Poison gone.
why do you want me gone?

I want this gone.
Never said I didn’t think Mac was sus
Never said I think Alison IS sus
Calls my thoughts angle shooting.
Seems to like Tim. Tim and him have partner equality.
Hmm

I want you gone cause of this, gut and the fact I don’t see you doing anything this game that’s gonna really completely help town nor trust you enough to do so.
@DaisyCloud
May want to reconsider your Tim read if Poison flips Scum.
Make sure Poison doesn’t come to night 2.
I’d prefer having made night 2 instead of Tim but the day hasn’t ended yet and that’s the only thing that I’d change my mind on.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:08 am LOLOLOLOL...gosh Alison, why would the whole game have swallowed that narrative whole? You think it was ME that sold it? Get a grip. This is the Syndicate. NO ONE here listens to me. You and Mac sold that. Now you are trying to reverse spin off of it without giving up the associative reads you made off of it back when it was the fixed point you were building your entire reads list on.

I mean I could honestly see it.
I could see you pushing and going along with it and then when Mac 180’ed on Alison you panicked and needed someone on your side and Daisy wasn’t enough so you are trying to use me to save your skin if your mafia.
Not saying that’s the case, but if your mafia it is.
I don’t think you are partners with Daisy.
IRDC about @Alison whole read on Daisy.
Although I would like to see some reads from this guy @TonyStarkPrime

I think if you have a partner here it’s Made or Poison.
Reason why I want Me, TSP and Daisy to go to Night 2 and only bring 1 of you or made with us.

Probably going to wall post after this.
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Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:33 am Gavial is actually lock town for trying to solve people in the other bracket

@MacDougall
You wanna sheep Alison and you have voted me.
Remove your vote on me.
If you already have. Thank You.

@Timsup2nothin
Actually surprising enough TSP is a pretty good reader, had some accurate reads last game.
Can’t remember entirely how I came to the conclusion he is town but I’m willing to trust it and allow him to let me see why. Not to mention when I claimed I TR’ed them some of the peeps from the winners bracket completely went against them hard (also you).
I don’t have any real experience with made but I know how Tony plays scum from legit bussing him on my first game on this site all the way up until like Day 5 so trust me when I say TSP is Town.

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Mines cuter then Marmots.

I want to bring Daisy and TSP with me to Night 2.
I’m unsure who of Tim/Made I want with me Night 2.
I’m leaning Tim only because I want to see them interact with both HK and Mog.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:31 am okay so I'm not good at make lists especially not in the early stages of game.

plus I was taught to do 3 and 3.

my 3 top town:

Tim, MacDougall, Falcon

I know Falcon isn't in the second group. idc. I feel like he is town.

my 3 scum:

TSP, Moghedian, Marmot.

people of note:

Alison- she is being messed up. I'm not some kind of scum. I haven't been playing scummy. she randomly decided for whatever reason that I'm scum and is hell bent on seeing me lynched and refuses to think different. in the any world in any scenario that is messed up. if she is town she is being anti-town and doesn't care. there is no way in a million years she is so gosh darn sure about me. this isn't a tunnel this is a vendetta. I can't defend against it. she has no logic, no real base for seeing me as scum. she simply decided and that is it. to me that's scummy. only thing other people can do is simply vote her or don't. vote me or don't. that is it.

Gavial: idk his alignment. I lean town. idk if he is buttering up to me and is actually scum. I just think we both just butted heads a bit. I don't want him voted out tho.

say what u want about Tim. he looks pure. I don't think he is scum with tons of wim. I don't think he is some deep wolf manipulating me. I don't think it makes me scummy for town reading him. I'm not stupid so I won't completely trust him either. idc if anyone thinks I'm hedging my bets or whatever.

it is freaking nite 1. could people just chill rhe fudge out for a moment. I fail to see how anyone can be 233% so sure about any freaking thing. to me that's sus. and it should be sus to u too. and if isn't then u are sus.

I was told to keep an eye on hk or something I don't remember what exactly was said about me and hk.. hi hk. hope u r doing well. if u r scum go have a bad day.
thank you for your time and attention ♡

TSP and Marmot are Obv Town.
Your probably right on Mog though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:27 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:29 pm I believe Daisy is derp cleared.
I have no real thoughts on Tim. Been wolfy?
Explain.
Enters thread, immediately starts trying to figure out how many mafia there are.

Well I’ll admit it’s a good look.
Mafia can also do that if they don’t know their team already had a set amount.

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I do think you could be scum but I want to see how you treat Mog and HK in the long run.

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Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:44 pm Since when and where should you ever compare yourself to made?
I didn't. I questioned you about the fact you said nothing about him until you arrived at "yeah take Made to N2."

To me the real sort of level comparison for Made is TSP. Both are very cool heads who if town will be reliable to make well thought out decisions. Both are just pretty null reads currently who have not committed to anything that is likely to either clear or condemn them any time soon. So I think either one of them is a fine fourth, and either one of them can die.

I think Daisy is good active leadership, and I think you and I are good offsets for each other. I also think that both of us need that offset for the same general reasons that I don't think letting either Alison or Mac go forward would be a good idea.

If Daisy, TSP, and Made agree that killing Mac and Alison plus you and me is a good idea I could probably back that.

I may change my vote from You to Made but I want Poison gone.

HK and Mog viewing but not scouting in ball.

Interesting.

Mac/Poison/Alison/Tim Today
HK/Mog/Whoever/IDK Gavial if you want. tomorrow

Should be it.
As HK/Mog is really the only scum I can see in the winners bracket.

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Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:44 pm Since when and where should you ever compare yourself to made?

Saying it should have both or none makes absolutely no sense.

What’s your read on Poison?

Tim/Poison/Alison/Mac
Least 1 scum in here.
Made/Daisy prob almost always both town.
TSP Obv Town.

I don’t trust either Tim or Poison and Alison and Mac should both resolve tonight.

Since when and where should you ever compare yourself to made?

Didn’t even ping Mog and they viewing thread.
Convincing me more and more Mog is scum in winners bracket.
But I’m also quite paranoid dough.

If it was up to me I’d send Hollow, Mog and Wilgy to the loser Bracket.

Hear me! ^_^
@Marmot
@Kylemii
@G-Man
@falcon45ca
Y’all should team up and do dis!

Also if I had to take a gut gamble and if we assume scum is playing well and 2 scum consist within the Winner’s bracket.
Here’s where I’m at:
Winners Bracket

Marmot - Def Town
Kyle - Prob Town
Hollow - Gut Scum
G-Man - Prob Town
Wilgy - Null Slight Leany Villager
Mog - Gut Scum
Falcon - Def Town

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:32 pm Ouch. I think.

I think Long Con was town, so that's not helpful.

It doesn’t really matter what he was, he would know at EoN anyway.

@DaisyCloud Response.

@falcon45ca is derp cleared due as how he responded to @Marmot regarding the post of theirs.

Saying how it’s not VT but the Rolecard says town. The way he responded to it felt like town knowing and thinking this.
Last game Esooa did something similar where they thought they were town as I’ll admit the role PM never stated you were town.
Falcon questioned it and I SR’ed him that entire game until we lost and he was town and then he hated me for it.
Yet I voted Esooa anyway so LOL. I like to vote IC’s I guess.

Who says I SR Alison?
I just believe the fact there is scum within them and Mac.
Alison willing to sacrifice themselves for Mac but Mac refusing to do the same.
Sus tbh.

Tim is more of a gut then anything.
One I want to follow.

I have a smaller gut hit on Poison but that’s scum only in an Alison!Town world.

Your PoE because you aren’t ObvTown/IC?
TSP is though.

Yeah I want to take Me, Daisy, Made and TSP into Night 2.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:10 pm I am very disappointed Marmot didn't get put in the lower bracket.
I'm disappointed you and Tim are here. neither one of you should be here.

I'm thinking Tim is town and I lean town on you so far.

u not poking at me is disconcerting tho.

I think both should be here as I think both can be scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:29 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:08 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine
Can I have your thoughts regarding Tim and Daisy please.
I believe Daisy is derp cleared.
I have no real thoughts on Tim. Been wolfy?

I believe Falcon is deep cleared.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:08 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Can I have your thoughts regarding Tim and Daisy please.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:04 pm To clarify: the cap resets at the start of each cycle (ie it will reset between n1 and d2). It does not reset between day and night. So at SOD2, everyone will have a new 100 posts to use for d2/n2, etc. etc.
Oh ok so I can talk then and not have to be speechless the next nights.
Nice!

Time to use my powerful voice!
Who do you intend to murderise here?

Read my post above plus who my votes are on.
The last vote of mine I’m still deciding.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:04 pm To clarify: the cap resets at the start of each cycle (ie it will reset between n1 and d2). It does not reset between day and night. So at SOD2, everyone will have a new 100 posts to use for d2/n2, etc. etc.

Oh ok so I can talk then and not have to be speechless the next nights.
Nice!

Time to use my powerful voice!

I’m not going to talk for the rest of the night since cap doesn’t reset for us and I’d rather not be speechless coming into Night 2/3/4.

If you think I’m scum. Vote for me.
If you think I’m Town. Keep me alive.

IRDC, I’ll vote for whom I believe to be most probable scum and I hope you all do the same.

Losers Bracket

Alison
Mac
Tim
Daisy
Gavial
Made
Poison
Tsp

My for sure votes:
Mac and Alison for self resolve reasons
Tim because gut and I don’t want them to late game.

Never voting TSP, hard town.
Leaving Made/Daisy/Poison as my PoE for this elimination.
Leaning Poison, not confident in either 3 though.

I’m hoping @Marmot and @falcon45ca can both lead town in the Winners Bracket and make sure the scum are unable to lead it.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Scoring the thread to date gets me here:

Alison: xxxx+x
Daisy: xx+++
Falcon:
Gavial: x+
Hollowkat: xx++x
Moghedien: x+
Poison: x
Tim: +++++++++

G-Man:
Kylemii: xx
Long Con: x
Mac: x+
Made: +
Marmot: x+
Tony: x
Wilgy:

An x is bad and a + is good.

I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

I am man-crushing all over Tim like I used to for Sloonei. We are on the same wavelength. We have to unlearn our mafia games because this is barely mafia at this stage. If we try to approach it the same way, we’ll get rolled.

I still think Tim can be mafia as well as yourself.

You have Hollow 3 to 2.
Can you explain that more in depths?

Sorry my attitude kicking in.

I just refuse to allow scum to manipulate.
I manipulate the manipulators.

So anytime I see someone trying to do some potential scum agenda I fight it!

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