The Syndicate

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:37 pm You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.
fwiw, and I've said as much, i think if gav is a wolf this is still the most likely team because that's just how gav operates and also he keeps forcing it between you and me even though he thinks jack is lock wolf blah blah blah
Yeah no shit I’m forcing it between you two.
Because no one is gonna fucking vote Jack other then me.
I’ve stated that serval fucking times.

Also, I’ve mentioned to Ender that TSP thought Me/Jack were the team. Think I even responded that from Ender first saying it’s Me/LC like lol.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:56 pm i'm waiting for you to case jack before i reeval

Re-Eval?
How’s Re-Eval the equivalent to “Casing Ender”?

@EnderWiggin
Why did you drop off of TSP all of a sudden?

@TonyStarkPrime
Where’s your Ender case?

I honestly have no clue which one of you two are scum because you both are being very questionable.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:37 pm You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.
fwiw, and I've said as much, i think if gav is a wolf this is still the most likely team because that's just how gav operates and also he keeps forcing it between you and me even though he thinks jack is lock wolf blah blah blah

Yeah no shit I’m forcing it between you two.
Because no one is gonna fucking vote Jack other then me.
I’ve stated that serval fucking times.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 pm Neither is self preserving.

@RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie

Gimmie your read on the other. If it’s a townread, convince me to yeet outside of you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 pm I have had a strong townread on Falcon in almost every game we’ve played together where he’s town. I don’t have a townread on him here.

See this was a weird progression EoD1 and I’ll probably mention this in my case on Jack later tonight.
@EnderWiggin
I’d have to look into it more for why exactly you choose to not vote Rondo but it probably has to do with something within the game state that happened during EoD1 that kinda made it unlikely for you to vote Rondo.

Tony claimed Useless role and is hoping for @ilario to have some sort of clear on him?

What a guy eh?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:08 pm I think Ender has probably faked a role claim and probably doesn’t have any powers which is probably mildly wolfy tbh
Lmao.

Oh but you guys can’t beat Jack.
Claims 2-shot of none of your business.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack
... This is actually towny.

Or desperate wolf.

It’s not Townie it’s just basically repeating what you said.
Least the Jack/You part.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:55 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:06 pm Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.
No it’s not.
You always kill Jack before Alison unless Jack is Scum with you.
I mean, that's true.

But like, that alone should tell you I'm town because:
1. I always kill Jack > Alison N1
2. Jack/Ender saves Seanzie 100% of the time.

I mean if you think about it you didn’t intentionally Buss him with the thought of him going over.

It was more like:
Lime Coke and Sean had 3 votes on them as top wagons.
Lime Coke wins the tie.
If you moved your vote off of Sean it would make you look sus.
There was only a couple of mins or secs left so since Sean was going over anyway, Jack voted there to earn himself some sweet town credit.
Jack only bussed because his bud was gonna die anyway and he can receive town credit.
You only bussed as a distancing tactic but you couldn’t really move your vote so you let Sean go over.

Therefore Ender is only ever scum with Jack.
No one else.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:02 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:53 am Blade might be mafia lol
I haven't seen anything mafia indicative from Ender.

See look at that defence.

Also, @TonyStarkPrime if you think about it.
Why would Ender as wolf even ever kill Alison over Jack?
He would feel more threatened dealing with Jack then Alison.
Unless of course
WOW!
Ender is scum buddies with Jack.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:22 pm Gav I would like it if you gave me a reason why you thought that Jack was a wolf

Remind me again in about 7-8 Hours and I’ll make a full on case around Jack, you know because cases are good to make.
You should try it sometime.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:49 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack
See that’s not the case.
You say it isn’t with Jack.
Ender says he can’t be with Jack.
But explain the Alison kill, explain it.
Ender never kills Alison before Jack because he had Alison in a pocket.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.

That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.

Alison townread Jack and wasn't sure on Ender. Your logic is ??

Ender still had Alison in a pocket that could have gotten bigger and he could have killed Jack whom broke the tie that wouldn’t have mattered anyway.

If your town it should be obvious to you it’s Ender/Jack.
Ask yourself, why am I the only one in this entire game that voted Jack?
Well it’s a simple answer, because I’m right on him being a wolf!

Now I hope your scum so this game can end faster but if you flip Green then the Town Pact of Me, Lime Coke and Falcon will take down the pesky wolves of Ender and Jack.

Or is it because I’m hard pushing you and you can’t trust me?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm
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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
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For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.
hmm actually by this logic i wonder if I'm vaguely confirmed, my role self targets

but no gav that's not how this works

See the issue is.
If you thought it was me and ender it was kinda dumb to change your vote to me because that kinda slightly crumbled your chances on Ender top wagon.
Like if you thought I was scum with Ender why not keep it on Ender?
If you still thought I was scum with Jack why haven’t you said anything to figure out more of Jack’s slot?

If your town, be more helpful here.
Why do you even scum read me anyway?
Because I’m trying to take thread control here to get as much as I can out of today while trying to maintain myself for a healthy game state and so Jack doesn’t corrupt and manipulate with his could have been potential thread control?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm
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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

They had the following smilies:
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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
Level 5 Processing

Night 1 begins, and ends in 24 hours. Please don't send any actions in the last hour. [Countdown Link]
For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.
hmm actually by this logic i wonder if I'm vaguely confirmed, my role self targets

but no gav that's not how this works

That wouldn’t confirm you.
Like Reflector is just a better Commuter.
Sean was Commuter so why would scum have 2 roles like that considered the roles that flipped wouldn’t really need 2?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:46 pm huh I guess I should case ender then

WOW
You think?

I can’t remember, have you even claimed at all?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:18 pm The only person I’ve even had interactions with today was LC and that was vaguely unproductive but I kinda think he’s town now so if anyone else in POE wants to talk to me now would be a good time or I’ll keep being annoyed at Gav

Instead of being annoyed why don’t you give some more thoughts.
What’s your full Readslist?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

See that’s not the case.
You say it isn’t with Jack.
Ender says he can’t be with Jack.
But explain the Alison kill, explain it.
Ender never kills Alison before Jack because he had Alison in a pocket.

@Jackofhearts2005
When you have a chance I want to know if you have even used your role yet.
Well the one your fake claiming that is.

@TonyStarkPrime
Also instead of complaining, getting irritated at me and throwing around chaos, maybe make a case on Ender while you still have time to. Just a thought.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm
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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

They had the following smilies:
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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
Level 5 Processing

Night 1 begins, and ends in 24 hours. Please don't send any actions in the last hour. [Countdown Link]

For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.

You had the opportunity to sell us on Ender over You.
But instead you appear to have some issues with me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:51 pm When I flip kill Gav pls I don’t even care it ends the game

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:58 pm Wolf team probably is planning to do that but I dunno

If your town that’s actually trying to throw the game and give the win to Jack and Ender you need to work on your town play for future games.

The only team with you as scum that is

Then when Rondo revealed he JK’ed Jack you responded with the urge for him to go on you instead.
As if you were purposely trying to get him away from Jack and trying to fake clear yourself in the process.

Actually the only team that makes sense is you and Jack.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:06 pm Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.

No it’s not.
You always kill Jack before Alison unless Jack is Scum with you.

We will defeat the scum and purify this world!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:44 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:34 am @falcon45ca
@Lime Coke

I need you two to get along so you guys don’t break come tomorrow.

If TSP flips Town, @Lime Coke is probably going to go after Falcon which can’t happen. I need you to take my word for this Lime Coke. You need to trust me when I say I confirmed Falcon.

As for @falcon45ca, assuming I do confirm the ability I don’t want to see you have the idea in your head I’m wrong about Lime Coke or that you think we are the team. We need to work together here to defeat scum and we need to form a town pact.

Falcon assuming TSP flips Town, I NEED YOU TO USE YOUR ABILITY ON JACK TONIGHT?
IT BENEFITS US ALLOT!

For example.
It becomes Me, You, Lime Coke, Ender, 1 of Dyson’s Clears.

Now here’s how it benefits us:
Jack being removed not only stops his interference but if we vote Ender, Jack should be confirmed scum in your eyes because if he is scum (which I know he is) it will act as a MYLO still where if he isn’t scum it acts as a LYLO.
Removing Ender confirms Jack as their partner.

Although if TSP flips Red then don’t use your ability because there’s no point.
Alright. Let it not be said I'm incapable of collaboration.

In the name of teamwork, I will cooperate this RD.

Then it’s settled.
Today.
Today, is the day we make scum shit their pants!

Also notice how Jack won’t claim.
He only claimed 2-shot.
Because he hasn’t thought of a fake claim yet.

@falcon45ca
@Lime Coke

I need you two to get along so you guys don’t break come tomorrow.

If TSP flips Town, @Lime Coke is probably going to go after Falcon which can’t happen. I need you to take my word for this Lime Coke. You need to trust me when I say I confirmed Falcon.

As for @falcon45ca, assuming I do confirm the ability I don’t want to see you have the idea in your head I’m wrong about Lime Coke or that you think we are the team. We need to work together here to defeat scum and we need to form a town pact.

Falcon assuming TSP flips Town, I NEED YOU TO USE YOUR ABILITY ON JACK TONIGHT?
IT BENEFITS US ALLOT!

For example.
It becomes Me, You, Lime Coke, Ender, 1 of Dyson’s Clears.

Now here’s how it benefits us:
Jack being removed not only stops his interference but if we vote Ender, Jack should be confirmed scum in your eyes because if he is scum (which I know he is) it will act as a MYLO still where if he isn’t scum it acts as a LYLO.
Removing Ender confirms Jack as their partner.

Although if TSP flips Red then don’t use your ability because there’s no point.

If I can confirm their ability I confirm them as town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:06 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am Also Falcon, I’ll confirm Lime Coke tonight so you can stop thinking they are scum.
Why are you assuming they're town already? The phrasing of this assumes their role as town.

Frankly, I still don't see how you are able to confirm them, and I don't trust you

Well if you can’t trust me then we probably lose this game.
So trust me.
I’m not exactly assuming they are town. It’s more like I’ll know by tomorrow if they are confirmed town or confirmed scum.
Scum wouldn’t have that ability. Not possible.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:23 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:00 am Kinda makes more sense though for it to be TSP/Jack but I ain’t leaving Ender/Jack out of the equation
You're making me suspect you too

I’m town.
I’d have played different if I was Scum.

@falcon45ca
Look at the above post plz!
Sorry for pinging you allot but at this stage everything matters!!!

Falcon - 100% Town can confirm socially via Neighbourhood.
Ilcario and Rondo 100% Town confirmed by Dyson.
Lime Coke becomes 100% Town or 100% Scum by tonight. Depends on the results.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:07 am Although if TSP is town he is really dumb for taking his vote off of Ender.
Also, Jack keeps getting Town Read and never pushed which is concerning me. Can you all please stop fake confirming him because he wants that sweet sweet town credit!

@TonyStarkPrime
It’s not too late.
You can try and dig through Ender’s ISO and make a case on them.

But that’s only if your town which you have a less chance of being then Ender.

It’s kinda like:
Jack 100% Scum
Ender 30% Scum
TSP 70% Scum

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:21 am [VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

Ender if this vote is a miss I am going to remove all protection I have for you
Lmao.

Look, I ain't responsible for your reads.

What does his reads have to do with protecting you?

Although if TSP is town he is really dumb for taking his vote off of Ender.
Also, Jack keeps getting Town Read and never pushed which is concerning me. Can you all please stop fake confirming him because he wants that sweet sweet town credit!

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am If this is a miss it maybe has to be Gav/LC.

Me/LC
Me/Falcon

Try it Bud.
If TSP is Town and LC + Falcon follow me.
You and Jack will know what a back of a hand really feels like!

Also Falcon, I’ll confirm Lime Coke tonight so you can stop thinking they are scum.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:21 am [VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

Ender if this vote is a miss I am going to remove all protection I have for you

If this is a miss then the only way we can beat Ender/Jack is if Me, @Lime Coke and @falcon45ca form a Town Pact!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:43 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:27 am Idk Gav is confusing me
It’s not confusing.
If your town, it’s Ender and Jack.
Yet your doing nothing about it.
In the end your going to throw and vote me, Lime Coke or Falcon.
Gav have you considered that perhaps it’s not Ender and Jack

Yeah I have!
I also considered that it could perhaps be you and Jack!

Kinda makes more sense though for it to be TSP/Jack but I ain’t leaving Ender/Jack out of the equation

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:01 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:02 am Also, Scotty wanted me and TSP gone and now Jack’s trying to form a wagon on Lime Coke when he had no prior mention of that yesterday.
Odd eh? @ilario
There’s your reasoning for Scotty death that you wanted so much.
But that still doesn’t explain why I wasn’t killed, I wanted tsp gone and was siding with you, if you’re town why would mafia allow that?

Scotty was also taking the most thread control of the thread on was focusing on me and TSP.
Jack kills Scotty so he can take control and lead town to another ML and push attention away from TSP.

Also, Scotty wanted me and TSP gone and now Jack’s trying to form a wagon on Lime Coke when he had no prior mention of that yesterday.
Odd eh? @ilario
There’s your reasoning for Scotty death that you wanted so much.

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