The Syndicate

Oh yeah you did say you had intent to vote me and then Jack voted me so yeah maybe your right.
I’m still thinking it’s Ender over TSP but it could be TSP IDK I’m conflicted on them so hard.

Or are you talking about Jack voting me and waiting for someone else to show up?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:36 am He was waiting for someone else in thread to push you

Who?
Are you talking about me voting Jack?
Yeah because I ain’t voting Jack until at least someone sees eye to eye with me and realizes it’s Jack.
From how I looked at it no one really has much intent to vote Jack so when you did I got happy but then you teased me and voted back to TSP and I cried.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:35 am [VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

You monster!
[VOTE: Ender ] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:32 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Happy?

What happen to your little town read on me buddy?
Fade away like dust eh?

Yay!
Someone finally wants to vote the obvious wolf!

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:33 am [VOTE: jack ] aubergine

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Like I know one of TSP/Ender is Wolf with Jack and I vote whichever I think his the highest likely.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:31 am Now I really want to vote gav, he has been trying his best to pull the vote off TSP by pointing at anyone else

I thought you went to bed?
You should vote Ender.

I’m not pulling it off of TSP there is a difference.
I am thinking It’s high chance it’s Ender and not TSP as Jack’s buddy so I’m trying to put Ender through instead of TSP.

@Jackofhearts2005
Wanna Buss your buddy again? Go ahead and vote Ender.
Might as well continue the routine yeah? No stopping now!

You clearly wanted to vote outside Rondo and Sean.
Actually.

@ilario
@falcon45ca
@Lime Coke
@TonyStarkPrime

Remember when Ender thought it was Rondo and Sean as the Top Wagons and totally disregarded LC?
Well if this post By jack is anything to go off of if they were scum in their scum chat it would have been like Rondo and Sean with Jack wanting to try to get an ML going on Falcon.

I think Ender slipped from Jack himself.
2 for 1 Combo! We got em boys!

Love how you left out the other parts and only showed the parts of Alison, you even left out the first part where it was clearly shown you thought Alison was more wolfy then Sean lol.

Whatever.
@falcon45ca
If TSP goes over and filps town just stick to the plan.
(Jail Jack and Vote Ender.)

Pretty sure Ender kills Ilcario tonight since Rondom town reads him more. But I honestly am not sure anymore.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:21 am ok well I am heading to bed, I dont think I am going to move. So Good night

Are you kidding me?
C’mon Mate.

That’s why I’m thinking we should really do Ender and not TSP.
I feel like Jack wouldn’t be like dodging if his bud was up, he’d be more concerned.
So like, I think it’s Ender and Jack wants to do nothing and not vote at all in hopes TSP goes over and not Ender.
So I think we should all vote Ender here.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:20 am Does day end today?

Yeah it ends in 4-5 Hours I think.

If you were town you would place a vote today because it matters!

I fuckin know!
You ain’t gonna vote at all because your cornered scum!

@Jackofhearts2005 better place your vote somewhere and not dip.
I’ve cleared Falcon.
I’m gonna clear Lime Coke tonight.
Doesn’t leave you much wiggle room now does it?
Now will you vote your scum buddy or will you vote the one that isn’t. Let’s see Ender or TSP. Which will you choose.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:06 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:07 pm @Jackofhearts2005
When you have a chance I want to know if you have even used your role yet.
Well the one your fake claiming that is.
Yeah.

Yet your refusing to claim.

@RondoDimBuckle
Let me ask you something.
Why exactly do you TR Ender?

Ender voted back to @TonyStarkPrime simply because he knew I wasn’t going anywhere today and he feels TSP is an easy ML.

Like TSP might not be smart but I don’t sense a direct agenda not today. Only dumb plays recently, at least in my honest opinion.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:11 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:54 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:21 pm Gav I don’t understand your role, you send notes, start neighbourhoods and can confirm other people’s abilities ????
?
I have a Neighbourhood that I already used and it was just for a 1 cycle. (1 Day and 1 Night phase)
I have 2 Notes, Used 1 on you and I’ll use the other on Lime Coke and because of my role it can confirm his role as if he’s town I’ll get the message and not him.
So when you say falcon is confirmed town you don’t mean it any way to do with his abilities? Just based off how he spoke to you in your hood?

Before I even added him I semi-cleared him due to the fact day 1’s game state meant both scum were decently active.
Well Falcon and Dyson were the only 2 that weren’t decently active yet Dyson did make some of an impact where Falcon made none. Meaning Falcon had very high chance for town.

Allot of what he said in the neighborhood comes from a Townie mindset 95% of the time. It didn't feel like scum at all.
Trust me plz. Falcon is Town. And I’ll confirm Lime Cokes alignment tonight.
We need to lynch Ender/TSP today so you need to vote Ender with me because I think Ender has a greater chance to flip wolf now.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:48 am honestly im feeling like its between falcon/ender/jack now

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
You like TSP more than Ender?

I don’t blame them honestly, I’m kinda leaning that way.
TSP is more smarter as scum from my experience and he hasn’t really been playing that smart this game so I’m hoping he gets a little more of a brain wave going and votes Ender.

@TonyStarkPrime
If you wanna live, vote Ender.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:48 am honestly im feeling like its between falcon/ender/jack now

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

It’s not Falcon Bro.
I cleared him in the chat I made with him.
I’ve been telling you since like Day 3 that’s it’s Jack with either Ender or TSP.
Leaning Ender now.

@ilario
Vote Ender not Falcon.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:02 am Gav is clearing a lot of people and not dying

WDYM?
I’m not dying at night because there is 2 confirmed town by Dyson and your one of them.
I’m not getting voted today because that’d be dumb since I can confirm Lime Coke as Town.

Anyway I’m going to sleep.
Goodnight!

You wouldn’t vote me if you thought I was town.
Just saying.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:50 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:48 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:34 am Ftr if it is just TSP/LC then I blame Gav for the tunnel on me that has made me push this way. =P
I can confirm LC tonight.
Falcon is Town.

Leaving only really You, TSP and Jack.
So your the PoE anyway regardless of my 100% Wolf solve on Jack.
I was talking from my pov.

From your pov I’m town?
Lol.

Also Ender you are literally saying this as if you know your voting a town….
Why would you push a person you think is town in this game state?
We are in F8.
I don’t think you actually think I’m scum when you word things like that.
@TonyStarkPrime
What do you think?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:34 am Ftr if it is just TSP/LC then I blame Gav for the tunnel on me that has made me push this way. =P

I can confirm LC tonight.
Falcon is Town.

Leaving only really You, TSP and Jack.
So your the PoE anyway regardless of my 100% Wolf solve on Jack.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:33 am Gavial:
I think it's more likely TSP.

Also Gavial:
"I am leaning it to be more Ender then TSP now."

Honestly Gavial, you're just going to go back to pushing TSP after I flip green because that's your misyeet route isn't it?

No it’s my PoE route.
Look at it this way.
Jack is a Wolf.
Jack can only be buddies with you or Tony.
You can’t say that if you flip Green that it’s wrong for me to flip Tony because that’s the solve.
Just like Tony can’t say I shouldn’t flip Ender if they flip Green.

The wolves never change. The wolves begin the game with a starting rolecard.
One of you or Tony is a wolf, this fact never changes.

@Jackofhearts2005
Your not laying down on your pillow today.
Place a vote.

Jack Case

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:29 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:39 pm I'm down to policy Gavial.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:39 pm [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:40 pm [VOTE: Gavial ] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:42 pm [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
You know, it’s hard to tell joking from bait from taking bait with naked votes.

So for the first post that pings my radar is this where he says “Bait” and if you notice one of the people voting there is Ender and it wouldn’t be really bait if a town is voting. (Well maybe in certain terms but from the way Jack said it was concerning).

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am My thoughts halfway up page 6 are like “I suspect Rondo, Alison, Seanzie in roughly that order. Alison is going after Rondo and Seanzie. Let’s flip a wolf in this group and spew one of my suspects town, too.”

But then I got the the posts where Alison starts going after Scotty and I didn’t like that shit because it felt like it ruined the plan.

Ok so yeah in this post he actually views Alison on a scummier level then Sean. That’s interesting.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:04 am Sean obvious town tbh

Based on Alison being a wolf or off something Seanzie actually did?

Clear mindset that he had more intent to vote Alison then that of Sean and trying to make It look like Sean hasn’t done anything scummy at all with his last line there.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:51 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:26 pm I’m at this weird intermediate where I tr the people Alison has outed as trs, but I don’t townread Alison herself.
Yeah, I’m never scumreading this. Too much mindmeld.
You’re both wrong by my new metric for reading Alison
What’s the new metric?
Alison’s probably town if she agrees with me
Lol okay.

I kinda wanna yeet Alison but of the three, she’s imo the best player so I don’t mind giving her another day. Plus antialigned with both of my other suspects. Plus the vote count is tied between my other suspects.

Here’s a clear interaction with TSP during Day 1

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 pm Neither is self preserving.

@RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie

Gimmie your read on the other. If it’s a townread, convince me to yeet outside of you.

Feels like he was trying to reach on suspicion for Alison.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 pm I have had a strong townread on Falcon in almost every game we’ve played together where he’s town. I don’t have a townread on him here.

He’s definitely staying loyal to this read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:56 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface
Agreed. Let this be between Falcon and Seanzie.

Try’s to have Falcon as the CW to Sean as he has clear intent to want to avoid Sean as shown in the past posts.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:56 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface
Agreed. Let this be between Falcon and Seanzie.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:59 pm Buzzer [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Back to back posts, seems like Jack didn’t want to vote Lime Coke which I don’t blame him on that regard.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 pm Why aren’t we just yeeting rondo?

One of the first things he wanted to do on day 2 was attempt to yeet what we know is town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:24 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:25 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:24 pm "Ender is a teammate" is absolutely meme tier. I was around at eod, I don't help Seanzie flip his mafcard by 1 vote
That is true but switching to LC last second would also look suspicious
But then why do you townread me?

I don’t understand this response I don’t see his mention of Jack. It’s weird and kinda leans Ender as Jack’s partner.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 pm Pretend I didn’t badly misunderstand that last quote.

Yeah…. Very weird.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:56 pm Two of those sub nulls are voting Tony btw.

Here now he mentions TSP.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm How much of an argument do you need
I mean…he’s null in my book but there are at least 3 sub-null players so a lot but not much?
Gimmick was >rand mafia for him, he's largely been boring and that's >rand mafia for him
K.

How do you feel about Falcon?
Hes meh
I’ve never seen town Falcon be meh.

Some shading on Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:48 pm Falcon’s vote on Gav makes me think w!Falcon thinks Gav is LHF.

Even more intent to remove Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:07 pm Rondo is probably actually town unless someone else has a saving ability
There's a decent chance there is another one just because doctor is so standard but Rondo is probably town anyway for his play yesterday.

IDK Jack, you kinda put him as main agenda at the start of last day with Falcon the alternative.

I might do more of this case if requested but I am leaning it to be more Ender then TSP now.
Let’s see if this does anything.
[VOTE: Ender] aubergine
@Lime Coke
@falcon45ca

It’s up to you two of course but if your leaning more Ender like I am feel free to switch from TSP to Ender.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:21 pm Gav I don’t understand your role, you send notes, start neighbourhoods and can confirm other people’s abilities ????

?
I have a Neighbourhood that I already used and it was just for a 1 cycle. (1 Day and 1 Night phase)
I have 2 Notes, Used 1 on you and I’ll use the other on Lime Coke and because of my role it can confirm his role as if he’s town I’ll get the message and not him.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:20 pm If gav and tsp are tvt we kinda just lose, so we should probably figure that out and avoid it lol

I mean we could always switch to an Ender vote.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:21 pm unfortunately currently I have two possibilities on that front of the options where you're a wolf so I'm waiting for the case

You know if you are town.
I’m slowly preying you get on the same page as me and see that it’s Ender/Jack.

Again, @TonyStarkPrime
No one was interested.
The real question is what do you think about Jack?

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:00 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:23 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.
That's rich
I literally voted out Sean. You haven't done shit.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:25 pm If you guys are SO UNSURE ABOUT LIME COKE.
Vote TSP.
TSP SCUM FLIP CONFIRMS LIME AS TOWN VIA DAY 1!

As for Falcon, I’m telling you based on the chat it ain’t possible they are scum.
I'll vote TSP with you.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine
I’m not voting tsp.
I’m voting Jack.
Jack has a greater chance.
Jack made it clear he is never going to vote TSP.
Jack/TSP prob the team anyway but still would rather Jack go because TSP is easier to yeet then Jack because Jack!Red flip makes no way TSP escapes but Jack could escape vice versa if they choose to kill me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:23 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.
FFS Falcon is town.
Stop killing yourselves town and vote Jack.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:17 pm also gav like multiple people, actually the majority of people in the game, have poe'd jack, you could definitely have gotten a wagon on him if you tried, but you didn't even try today?

Excuse me?

Look at my perspective.
In fact replace yourself with me and now look at it from that standpoint

(Jack + Ender/Me instead of Ender/You)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:13 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:08 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:07 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:59 pm given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to
So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.
i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow
What exactly were they?
your progressions have been incoherent, your team suggestions have been nonsensical, I think you've tmi'ed multiple people town (including maybe me), and you keep trying to chop different people despite having constant reads

My progression has been very coherent TYVM.
My team suggestions make allot of sense
My chops after really changed that much at all.
After Nanook it’s legit always been you and Jack but I also concluded that Ender can only be scum with Jack.

As for my team suggestion the only two players that make sense with Jack is you and Ender.
So well a!
Stop quick thinking and take your time to actually look at my progression instead of calling it incoherent.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:33 pm @TonyStarkPrime

Why Ender?

This is gonna definitely be in my case but my case kinda probably will resolve around both TSP and Ender because IDK which one of them is Jack’s Bud.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:09 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:07 pm Like Tony I’d expect you to have known better and you know, talk to Jack.

Like if your the town here Tony and didn’t even notice Jack stepped in for Ender when you voted Ender plus everything else I’ve said this entire game to try and point to you that it’s Jack with Ender then you need to open your eyes as wide as they can open.

Ender 50%
TSP 50%
Jack 100%

That’s what I see this game RN.
We yeet in Ender/TSP and always hit a scum and then Jack gets confirmed as scum via Falcon if it takes us a second try or via me shouting at the top of my vocal cords if we succeed in the first try and I’m desperately trying to at that point open everyone’s eyes so they can see Jack ain’t town.
jack's not around rn I've been waiting to interact

@Jackofhearts2005
Talk to Toby!

Because how I’m treating Jack?
It’s obvious to me he’s scum.
I don’t need to be scum buds with him to know his alignment.
I’ve caught scum in similar positions to Jack before, with the same or even less reasoning but I’m right and as long as your right that means scum can die and I can win!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:07 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:59 pm given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to
So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.
i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow

What exactly were they?

Like it’s funny.
People think it’s me and Jack.
I suggest voting Jack
I pretty much get this response:
No lol, I think I’ll vote you instead!

Like honestly that’s some disrespect right there, at least state some reasoning.

Like Tony I’d expect you to have known better and you know, talk to Jack.

Like if your the town here Tony and didn’t even notice Jack stepped in for Ender when you voted Ender plus everything else I’ve said this entire game to try and point to you that it’s Jack with Ender then you need to open your eyes as wide as they can open.

Ender 50%
TSP 50%
Jack 100%

That’s what I see this game RN.
We yeet in Ender/TSP and always hit a scum and then Jack gets confirmed as scum via Falcon if it takes us a second try or via me shouting at the top of my vocal cords if we succeed in the first try and I’m desperately trying to at that point open everyone’s eyes so they can see Jack ain’t town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:59 pm given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

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