The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:24 pm pretty weird you're fine with a game state you haven't read enough to be comfortable in

especially when it considers you as a lunch

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:08 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:06 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:58 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:57 pm i predict we're going to mischop twice in a row but would be happy to be proven wrong.

What

dunno just doesn't feel like a gamestate where we catch scum. i'm a pessimist at heart.

But our last lynch was a wolf, was it not? Or do you really think we're gonna mislynch again tomorrow?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:58 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:57 pm i predict we're going to mischop twice in a row but would be happy to be proven wrong.

What

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:47 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:46 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:35 am Ok so now I am home. What the fuck is happening with these polls? Does anyone actually have a case or is everyone just flinging shit?

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robyn's read on schweppes + general absence today + GTHV read on me felt shallow + I've spent like 6 hours today staring at VCA and re-reading ISOs and the more the day passes the more it's clear who's not having the conversations that push the thread forward and who is

idk ran's reasons

GET OUT OF MY HEAD THERE'S ALREADY SOMEONE HERE

and now you also know why Gira can never not tinfoil me

here, cookie for yourself as well

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:31 am @Gira what's a scum game that you're proud of

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:18 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:48 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:50 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:28 am [VOTE: abigail] aubergine

i think in particular her and tsp halfassed voting each other feels more likely partnered than anything else and the way she defends people feels informed

Still not how I bus

Pls read my wolf games before you sleep walk into another trash ass town kill

probably just going to always vote her out this game now lol

this post garnered this reaction from you? why?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:04 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:03 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm Anyway, does anyone think the merge is happening soon? We're getting to the point where a 10v3 game could be over

based on the events of the show iam not sure a merge will actually happen but maybe we'll see the emergency override

If it doesn't happen, what will happen if town wins one thread and wolves win the other? Will we still go on after eliminating all the wolves from this thread?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm Anyway, does anyone think the merge is happening soon? We're getting to the point where a 10v3 game could be over

Made wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:54 am Im down to flip abby or pyxxy.
imo best case to worst:
Pyxxy flips scum: wagon info and a scum flip
Abbi flips scum: No wagon info, but a scum flip
Pyxxy flips town: wagon information
abbi flips town: No wagon info

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:52 pm I will also summarily decline to take anything Made posts as being AI.
Yeah I know, we have new person and its supposed to make things easier, but eh.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:49 am

Made wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:48 am

Made wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:46 pm

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pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:14 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm

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recreated as text and copying leetic's PR color idea

RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - Ranmilia, WWA, pyxxy, leetic
pyxxy (5) - Rondo, ted, Abi, bereft, gira

Rondo, TSP, WWA all with (1) from the shadow votes

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from here:
WWA moves to TSP (1+1) at EOD-2h23m
Rondo moves to TSP (2+1) at EOD-2h15m
Dizzy votes Ran (1) at EOD-2h03m
Dizzy votes idk at EOD-2h02m
Gira moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h59m

VC refresh 1:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (3) - Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Rondo, Gira
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, bereft

---
Rondo moves to Abi (1) at EOD-1h42m
Bereft moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h13m
Rondo moves to Bereft (1) at EOD-1h11m
Rondo moves to ted (1) at EOD-0h59m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h57m
Rondo moves to pyxxy (3) at EOD-0h56m

VC refresh 2:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (2) - pyxxy, leetic
TSP (4+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Ranmilia
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, Rondo

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h31m
Ranmilia moves to Dizzy (3) at EOD-0h20m
Rondo moves to Dizzy (4) at EOD-0h07m

VC refresh 3:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - pyxxy, leetic, Ranmilia, Rondo
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h05m
Rondo moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h01m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (5+1) at EOD-0h00m
leetic moves to TSP (6+1) at EOD-0h00m and one extra minute late

final VC as we all know:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (1) - pyxxy
TSP (6+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Rondo, Ranmilia, leetic
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

reposting so i can refer back to this easily via mobile

ebwop, pyxxy didnt say this, I did.

if rans vote is a bus Im town, right?

Probably, they would have more likely been on pyxxy. Granted, Dizzy had some pretty weird interactions with Ran.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:50 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:28 am [VOTE: abigail] aubergine

i think in particular her and tsp halfassed voting each other feels more likely partnered than anything else and the way she defends people feels informed

Still not how I bus

Pls read my wolf games before you sleep walk into another trash ass town kill

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:35 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:34 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:33 am is there a reason made is the vote other than residual dizzy holdover? his posts are unremarkable to me but i also have no idea how to read replacements like that

Mostly Dizzy holdover, but Made's c

*contributions have been unimpressive thus far. Sorry, but EoD makes Dizzy looks bad and either them or pyxxy should be the lynch today.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:39 pm im kinda impressed nobody other than pyxxy brought ran being a potential wolf after tsp's flip

with that being said, if pyxxy flips wolf, i'd prolly treat ran as one of the villas up there with rondo / dizzy (wild, i know)

and thus far, their answers seem very unsatisfactory (pyxxy's)

it doesn't make sense to say you don't wanna interact at all with your seeming strongest wolf read. you still dropped the case, and you did it at a point where you couldn't get a reaction from it. so, you can drop it, but not earlier? what for?

like im trying to make sense what villa keeps their top suspicion sorta hidden til literally EoD, doesn't try to wagon them at all even once. which does not require interacting with them. writing out cases is not interacting with them.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:00 am test...? where'd everybody go?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:03 pm so, my top problems with pyxxy are the following poasts

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

i think this is 2 villas and it's an easy way to keep the heat on dizzy, engage in more "dizzy wolf" talk but by way of a weird association rather than their poasting

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:59 pm my legacy is chop leetic

I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same

but now the _direction_ is gone

they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus

I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work

pce

and this, because it looks like a post a wolf would make with v/v lhf standard d1 wagons. push on some spicy target to have reason to not comment on the obvious lunch targets

and after this, they just limply dropped on any heavy pushes. they took leetic's soft as law and went on to do some vca to land on dizzy and only now is tunneling ran. which is incredibly easy to do given ran has a goldmine of posts that look bad given tsp's flip

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:16 am Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:19 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:17 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:16 am Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

cuz im certainly not a coinflip

In my opinion your not

And you've actually been present

Not really looking to flip two straight AFKs just cause they are AFKs and have them both flip town which at this point is pretty 50/50

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:09 pm Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:11 pm I actually think Ted > Pyx > Dizzy/TSP just wins tbh

Some tinfoil on Gira Bereft Leetic though

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:41 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:49 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am And the flop on Robyn geez

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:36 am well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah

Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.

Agreed [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:19 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:44 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:41 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:31 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:29 pm Also I meant to post this yesterday

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Dyslexicon definitely stands out as the least TR-able of the early robyn voters. It's definitely a good blend-in vote.

Why? Can I get your review on all the d1 voters on Robyn?

The others were consensus townreads, Dyslexicon wasn't, plus they were a lot less vocal than the others so they definitely stand out in the list. I'm not sure the exact order, but if they were fifth I don't necessarily see wolves making that vote so early unless it was to protect ted or something. But again, I'll look at things more closely in a bit.

I believe the extra vote on Robyn happened before I voted them, and I think I was third on the list (could've been fourth, though, I was definitely in the middle)

The thing that concerns me about the robyn wagon is how quickly it ran off after I voted and brought the wagons relatively close to each other

I do kinda think this implies T v S and I think that pyxxy can be wolf who decides to vote a town off wagon instead of their teammate who's the CW and relatively safe at that stage

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:26 pm Why are there votes on all the standarx potential day 1 mischops except Abigail? Therefore I conclude

Since when I'm a day 1 misece I haven't been miskilled Day 1 in like forever

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:22 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:24 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:21 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:22 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:12 am Idk don’t make much of it

Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?

I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still

What about Dizzy's parked vote looks good? And can you elaborate on your read of Abby?

The atmosphere around the Robyn push shifted a lot, for Dizzy as a wolf to drop the vote in that manner would require in my mind maybe an unreasonable amount of foresight. This is somewhat of a bad explanation but I just think like it’s not an indicator of agenda. Then again, Dizzy is a good wolf and maybe knows Mac well enough to figure it out.

I don’t think Abby has contributed to the goals of the town in this game and moreover has received little attention and just occasionally some spare defenders saying “read her iso” (which ok I haven’t done). Granted we haven’t launched any wolves so no one has exactly contributed much. I also think it’s bizarre that people keep treating it like it’s a bad push. Like ??? No one has offered a concrete reason that Abby is towny, besides possibly if someone wants to make a spew read.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:40 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:39 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:16 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:14 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:03 am now to touch on an NAI subject that is potentially interesting, has anyone noticed that it's just half the game playing?

i want some brainstorming on what that means cuz we couldn't figure out in wolfchat


i think this is the sort of topic that should be discussed in a d0

Tell wolfchat to play the game, lol

Jokes aside, isn't it because it's still D0? People will probably trickle in by the time the game actually starts, especially since we're just over 12 hours into the pregame phase and I'd expect that not everyone has gotten the chance to check in yet. So, I get what you mean, but I don't think it's particularly unusual at this point in time.

no, i mean, the game has 26 players. and only 13 were tagged here

there is no other thread. i wonder if they can see ours

i think some flavor mechanic might be in play, but idk since i've never watched this show. or whatever it is

Wait. Wtf.

fake + L + ratio

True we have a joint scum chat and already knew this we were just hoping you wouldn't figure it out

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:59 am is there any compelling reason to not lunch pyxxy?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:06 am i think someone that has the time / is willing, should check his push on abi

i remember it being pretty sketchy

Made wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:12 am also also, i saw someone mention another thread?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:57 am so we still lunching pyxxy?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:59 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:56 pm I mean, even I have said i would rather vote out pyxxy than dizzy and rondo
Meaning I am not really defending him, even if I don't really think his wagon is a hit
And I acknowledge that's part of the reason why he's a very easy wolf agenda push if he's town. It would mean he has TWO inactive partners, or if they're active, they just aren't bothering to save him.

It doesn’t have to be that though — flash wagons that emerge 2 hours before EOD tend to dissipate just as fast, and his wolf partners could just be willing to wait it out (not that I think he’s a wolf)

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:07 am 1. I am responsible for TSP even being a wagon in the first place.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:05 am They last showed up 90 minutes before EoD, and had their last substantial post a half hour earlier. Interestingly, TSP had kind of hinted at moving towards you

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:01 pm Pyxxy is still above water in my personal POE but as they say a rising tide sinks some ships

but apparently wasn't able to show up to follow through on that.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:55 pm that's fair

but I think if I distance, I vote there

like how I did with nook in Beans Mafia

nook and TSP are similar liabilities to scum

in Beans I didn't commit to the bus and should have lost that game for it

I think scum me comes into this gave favoring a stronger and more deadly bussing, if presented with a similar situation

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:46 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:30 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:46 pm I've played with TSP on the ground twice, technically, but in both games he got mech cleared/essentially mech cleared and was only alive with me for one day phase. I've read a few more of his games and every one where he was scum I saw a great disparity, he basically phoned in the game and didn't play or contribute any complex thought at any point. So there is that. I'm sure he has better scum games but that is what forms my baseline. And in this game specifically, he entered posting a lot of stuff about me which is correct and (in my eyes) fairly insightful and beyond anything I've seen him do as a wolf.

... granted that does amount to "he's buttering up me specifically and talking about me specifically." So there is that too.

maybe my memory is wrong

brb

my memory doesn't seem to be wrong

hotdog fingers aka the example TSP brought up, lowposted through D1
search.php?keywords=&t=2508&author=Tony ... sf=msgonly

GoC 2022, lowposted but idk seems different maybe
secret playerlist was secret playerlist and posted a bit more but not as seriously as here

TSP what's a scum game that you're proud of

this quote goes razy, y'all

I just had to re-post in its own post

@Gira come on, you gotta give pyxxy a little treat for this one

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:11 pm Although wait, since TSP was a Bus Driver I can't 100% discount the possibility he targeted Bereft, even if Bereft was an unlikely target

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:06 pm We have 2 PRs flipped and 2 VTs flipped, alongside two other claimed PRs. The exact ratio of PR/V is unclear, still it's probably unlikely we are dealing with Heist levels of PR stinginess.

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:54 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:34 pm I think it's quite interesting

that leetic spent an entire day yesterday not being able to push someone

but now they can push me from the dot

Are you really desperate enough to push someone with a softed PR?

you do realize that you have no PR proof, right

and that you softed the very first post of D2 after I came for your neck D1

real hedgy stuff, bud

Well, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit

bereft already softclaimed VT in thread lol

I'm not aware of this.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:34 pm I think it's quite interesting

that leetic spent an entire day yesterday not being able to push someone

but now they can push me from the dot

Are you really desperate enough to push someone with a softed PR?

you do realize that you have no PR proof, right

and that you softed the very first post of D2 after I came for your neck D1

real hedgy stuff, bud

Well, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

The phrase smoking major weed?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm I guess if all three wolves are on robyn, Dyslexicon/TSP/tedxtr would make enough sense and they did it to save the latter? But then again, in that world TSP would have had no reason to go on robyn as tedxtr was pretty much safe at that point, so that world would more likely contain a deepwolf.

TSP move there is WIFOM from the wolf perspective, imo, but that's just my opinion

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

The phrase smoking major weed?

no that part I have experience with

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:55 pm Mmm no the cdistance between Ran and Dizzy felt pretty genuine. And like they’re both good enough to plan that so O wouldn’t rule it out but I wouldn’t say it’s in a way where they’d have massive equity from that or from gamestate reasons

more complete exchange

brb pistol round