The Syndicate

Not gonna lie. I suffered in the spec chat. Even got mad at Urist a couple of times.

This was a tough game and a tough set up.

Thanks @Michelle for playing along with the bus. Thank you @falcon45ca and @Urist for trusting me with managing the kills. Thank you all for not clipping my wings.

Urist we could have won night 3! Next time, just trust me! Lol

Well done carrying us to victory! I cant say “i never doubted you” because i did at times yes, but im happy you proved me wrong.

Thank you members of the town! And thank you hosts for hosting the game.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:39 pm Where I'm at right now

I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist
Let me level with you all, specially Nanook. I got the feeling Marmot got killed for this legacy and it's the very reason why I think Urist and Creature as scum

So yah this is my legacy. Obviously I'm not 100% confident cause HK and Dizzy's flipping town killed it for me and killed my WIM but I don't see a world where at least one of them is not scum.

So [VOTE: Urist] aubergine or [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

bye

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:49 pm I mean, I believe we have three wolves among Creature, falcon, Urist, and Wilgy. I like the odds of shooting any one of those. I just feel more comfortable with either falcon or Creature.

Guillo, I will look back at your ISO to refresh on why Urist. I just have to work again today so I won't have as much time.

I leave to work in less than an hour, I don't have time either lol, I have to get ready.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:39 pm Where I'm at right now

I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

Let me level with you all, specially Nanook. I got the feeling Marmot got killed for this legacy and it's the very reason why I think Urist and Creature as scum

I had an illegal read that now is not illegal anymore, it is just meta. I thought Dyslexicon had reasons to kill Marmot as they randed scum together at GoC andsince Marmot suspected Dizzy, I thought they fear killed Marmot. Obviously that read didn't age well.

I want Urist head but for some reason you guys rather keep her around, my only hope is that Nanook sheeps me this time.

The second next best thing is Creature, if you change your mind about Urist, i will switch there. @Spacedaisy , you asked why? ISO me again.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:52 am Falcon. Shoot there.

Nah, we should be shooting Urist or Creature today. They both are scum in my opinion.

I'm falling asleep on my desk, I cant stay up. I'll post more tomorrow

I'm talking like forming a voltron matters in this game. It's hard not to approach this game as a game of mafia even though it really is not.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:52 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:50 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:12 am Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.
Creature is doing exactly that right now.
I know.

Any chance I can get you to sheep me on Urist? Or that we both sheep DDL then?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:50 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:12 am Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.
Creature is doing exactly that right now.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:12 am Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:01 pm I have a feeling at least one of the wolves knows fingersplints fairly well to kill them N1. I think falcon, DrWilgy, Urist and I don't know fingersplints well enough. Of course that doesn't mean we're all town but would point towards one of the wolves being among DDL/Guillo/Space assuming they all know fingersplints enough to choose killing them N1.

I got no idea who fingersplints is and is not like they made a mark in this game either.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:03 pm I'm feeling poorly today so gonna shoot close to eod.

That's great news! I mean the shooting close to EoD not that you are feeling poorly.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:04 pm ftr I no longer townread DDL and think he could be wolf. I'm not sure if I have any strong leaning read right now. Spacedaisy is the best read I have rn because I believe she isn't really trying to be influential at all.

Explain it like I'm five years old, how is not being influential alignment indicative?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:35 pm yeah sorry i just had a c-section, can't play much.

Are you for real? or is this a reference to Dyachei having a baby while GoC was running?

(If for real, congratulations! I hope you recover soon and enjoy the company of that special little someone).

Will wolves ever learn that attempting to mischop me is bad for their health?

Urist reminds me of Dyachei in GoC, exactly the same play. Lurker, sucks up to Nanook and expects town to deliver my head. It worked for Dyachei because the pool was big, it wax four players that needed to be chopped, but Mac, TSP and Dyachei themselves had to pretty much out themselves to do it because they were afraid of my screamer claim.

Urist is making the same play as Dya in that game here.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME i got us another one.

Now im gonna go to work knowing i caught two wolves in this game.

Adiós

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:09 pm i don't have any reason to interact with you, nanook said yesterday that he had you in a 50-50 with dizzy so i'm assuming he's just shooting you today.

Ooooh that is why Dizzy was killed then, to set me up for his shot lol.

This is TMI from you my friend, was this your plan? To manipulate Nanook into shooting me? Bruh, im not chop material, im night kill material, i fuck with scum's plans and Nanook has seen me doing it too many times to not know that this is town me.

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Urist is scared, they are avoiding me like a leper.

The only good thing Urist has done is make the poll count a perfect spread for the screen shot, thanks! (Pocket not accepted).

19 of Urist posts (yes i counted them) were about engineering a plan to protect Nanook based on math that so far has not work for shit to get us to an advantageous point and other mech. We are at lylo! The other half has been saying mafia without anything to back it up. Urist is a wolf!

I say this with 70% confidence because i've tunneled scummy townies before but i would yolo a shot there. Call me biased all you want.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

Naked accusation

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:43 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:31 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:02 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:08 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:42 am LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.
Don't claim your shots.
Who says im not lying.
It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.
So you are saying im town now?
I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Urist TMIs me tiwn here.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:00 pm If some/most of you guys could give four person POEs, that would be super helpful for me to organize how everyone is viewing the game. Or your confident lock town reads, either is helpful. Tyty.
the problem with giving a public PoE is that it tells the mafia whether they should gamble on a nanook shot tonight.

Nanook attempts to get consensus reads and Urist shuts it down.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:53 pm Fun fact: this post counts toward the five post minimum per day, even though it has no content!

LAMISW

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:11 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:39 pm Do I follow logic, the dumbest of dumb reads, or consensus?

Weigh in in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe
we're at even numbers so the correct play is to vote sleep
Two NKs lol
it's ok i have two protects we good

Wolves don't have protects. I got four and im the scum slayer, we gucci.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:05 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:35 pm [VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine
You know what gets me about you? You went one about mechanics. Then you turned around and said you thought talking mechanics was a way mafia was hiding (after nearly 2/3 of your posts were about mechanics). And now you are saying you want to lynch someone who wasn't all about mechanics. You are shady as hell my friend.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

P.S. Not being mechanics minded and not being math minded are two different things. I was engaged in the mechanics conversation. I deferred in the end to someone who is math minded.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:53 am
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:58 am One can pretty much talk about mechanics yet recognize wolves' easiest thing to do is talk about mechanics.
Yeah and what you did was complain that there was so much mech talk (you called it sad) and implied it was a bust and his wolves. Completely overlooking your own role in it. I don’t believe you.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:29 am In fact, if I am right about Guillo and wrong about both DDL and Creature, that leaves us with falcon, Urist, and Wilgy.

I don't think I am wrong about both DDL and Creature. I would be shocked if at least one of these two was not wolf. The way DDL flipped on his read of Creature makes me prefer to see him shot today. I'll ISO later.. I have like an hour and a half left and only took a break for a few minutes from work.

Yah i remember WTFing to Creature about that, it didnt make sense at the time, but we can be hypocrites sometimes, in fact townies show hypocrisy a lot more than wolves because wolves worry about not looking bad.

I will not sheep you on DDL but maybe we can take a deeper look at those 3 names i bolded? Specially Urist, whom you town lean now? I wanna see what makes you town read Urist because they give me scummy vibes.

If Creature or Urist could vote Daisy for a full spread that'd be a cool screen shot to take lol.

I have to decide my vote (and hope it matters to Nanook) in less than 3 hours. I dont have the time the rest of you got, interact with me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:58 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:12 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:23 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:22 pm Okay. This kill surprises me.
Wolfy.
Falcon. Give me your top 3 scum, who you’d shoot today?
Space Daisy, Creature, Urist and Wilgy

I figure 4 is better than 3, and I feel there's at least 2 Maf in that POE

Let;s kill Urist.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:56 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:08 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:39 pm Falcon Wolf. 100%.
Wilgy Wolf. 100%

(I actually have no read on you but i wanted you to see how unhelpful reads like this are unhelpful).

Why is Falcon a wolf, sell me on it.
Meta. This game. Lack of force. No presence. Read ISO.

I dont see the meta part. Everything else i can see it but so i can see it for you, so i need specifics Wilgy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:47 am My PoE at the moment is basically anyone outside of me, Guillo and Nook.

I have a slight town lean on Urist.

I have no read at all on Wilgy.

I have a fluctuating read on falcon so I'd say slight wolf lean.

I don't trust Creature or DDL.

If the shot was in my hands I would shoot DDL.

This all comes with no ISOs yet. I'm about to get sleep now, so I will go ahead and vote on DDL at the moment, but it could still change before the shot gets taken, I'm not sure.

I dont see DDL being a wolf tbh.

Creature is a rollercoaster with an ISO mix of scummy and townie posts.

I dont know about Wilgy, Nanook will have to shoot blindly there if he shoots there.

Urist has been death tunneling me without any reason and so has Creature but at least creature is not afraid to speak his mind about everything else, i dont remember much from Urist.
Why is he town?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:05 am Idk how many you're at for the day but do recall there's a postcap!

I'm aware but you plan to shoot at the 24 hour mark and I worked 12 hours today and tomorrow, I will not be here when you shoot, in fact I will not be here 5 hours before you shoot so..

I'm tired though I need to sleep but I'll give some reads tomorrow before I leave off for work.

I just realized I've been spamming the thread, I'll wait for others to post now.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:47 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:46 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:24 pm The big things that do stick out in my head is the fact that Day Creature had 29 posts, of which 19 were mech discussion posts. Then at the end of the day he bemoaned that today was such a bust because all people talked about was mech and the wolves can hide in mech talk. Despite the fact that he was one of the driving forces of that conversation.
I agree I was part of it. I said wolves would most likely make mech talks because it's way easier than faking solving and I don't think that contradicts with myself being part of it. I was mostly pointing out that, despite me being part of it, wolves could very well be talking about mechanics.

I also recall feeling like when NAA and Marmot were took out, it was likely an opportunity for the wolves to try and come in and control conversation. I waited because I wanted to see who seemed to come charging in. The two who came in were Creature and DDL. Creature also came in with wall posts reads. I didn't care for the look, but not something by itself that was bad.
When I saw NAA and Marmot killed, I was first frustrated because they were such obvious favorite targets and they were killed right under eight doctor noses. I was surprised no one bothered to protect them. Also, the day starting at 7 v 3 with only one mislynch being available increased my sense of urgency to do the solving and get the game home before it was too late. You say wolves were going to take that opportunity to control thread conversation but a town can very well decide to step up after their two top townreads and most trustable players just dropped dead this cleanly.

I cannot fathom why anyone would have thought Dizzy bad. There is no world in which a wolf makes the post he did. It makes literally no sense to believe that he was wolf. Yet Creature and DDL were on him. It was beyond me, and the only reason I can see that someone would do it is because they would want to keep as many question marks out there as possible.
I was initially pushing Dyslexicon because their posts felt mostly empty, devoid of reads and I thought they were raising their postcount to look like they were doing something. I later changed my read on Dyslexicon when they came in and started making towny posts and showing no real care for how their posts looked like.
Not gonna lie. I like this post, i think it’s townie. If Creature is town we are so fucked.

This post though.

If Creature is not scum then DDL is and if DDL is then great job because I'm fully in their pocket.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:05 pm I'm gonna shoot at 24 hour mark every day, first person to complain about it or call it anti-town gets shot today
Not opposed to this. Waiting 48 hours for a flip feels unbearable.

I can see scum loving the idea of short days, less information for us, less chances for town to reevaluate etc.

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:46 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:24 pm The big things that do stick out in my head is the fact that Day Creature had 29 posts, of which 19 were mech discussion posts. Then at the end of the day he bemoaned that today was such a bust because all people talked about was mech and the wolves can hide in mech talk. Despite the fact that he was one of the driving forces of that conversation.
I agree I was part of it. I said wolves would most likely make mech talks because it's way easier than faking solving and I don't think that contradicts with myself being part of it. I was mostly pointing out that, despite me being part of it, wolves could very well be talking about mechanics.

I also recall feeling like when NAA and Marmot were took out, it was likely an opportunity for the wolves to try and come in and control conversation. I waited because I wanted to see who seemed to come charging in. The two who came in were Creature and DDL. Creature also came in with wall posts reads. I didn't care for the look, but not something by itself that was bad.
When I saw NAA and Marmot killed, I was first frustrated because they were such obvious favorite targets and they were killed right under eight doctor noses. I was surprised no one bothered to protect them. Also, the day starting at 7 v 3 with only one mislynch being available increased my sense of urgency to do the solving and get the game home before it was too late. You say wolves were going to take that opportunity to control thread conversation but a town can very well decide to step up after their two top townreads and most trustable players just dropped dead this cleanly.

I cannot fathom why anyone would have thought Dizzy bad. There is no world in which a wolf makes the post he did. It makes literally no sense to believe that he was wolf. Yet Creature and DDL were on him. It was beyond me, and the only reason I can see that someone would do it is because they would want to keep as many question marks out there as possible.
I was initially pushing Dyslexicon because their posts felt mostly empty, devoid of reads and I thought they were raising their postcount to look like they were doing something. I later changed my read on Dyslexicon when they came in and started making towny posts and showing no real care for how their posts looked like.

Not gonna lie. I like this post, i think it’s townie. If Creature is town we are so fucked.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:24 pm I cannot fathom why anyone would have thought Dizzy bad. There is no world in which a wolf makes the post he did. It makes literally no sense to believe that he was wolf. Yet Creature and DDL were on him. It was beyond me, and the only reason I can see that someone would do it is because they would want to keep as many question marks out there as possible.

I thought Dizzy was scum, why are you calling out Creature and DDL for it but not me? Im partly responsible for Dizzy getting heat yesterday.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:17 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME i'm pretty sure ddl & wilgy are town, so if you're right about spacedaisy then the scumteam is just guillotine, creature and falcon.

So let me get this straight, you see Creature’s treatment of me and Falcon/Creature interaction and deduce that we all are a team?

Bruh our scum theater must be really dope huh.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:41 pm Guess I'm only seeing Guillotine + falcon rn. Not sure who can be the third.

What? You scared to spew someone else town?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:39 pm Do I follow logic, the dumbest of dumb reads, or consensus?

Weigh in in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe
we're at even numbers so the correct play is to vote sleep

I’d love to have what you are smoking bruh.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:52 pm You know that "comtempt for town" tell I used to describe Dizzy early on?

I now see it in you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Dizzy flipped town lol

Stop echoing my posts, that is weird.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:52 pm You know that "comtempt for town" tell I used to describe Dizzy early on?

I now see it in you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Well… dizzy was town though

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:39 pm Do I follow logic, the dumbest of dumb reads, or consensus?

Weigh in in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe

LOL

Probably because ive been tunneled on HK though

People who went under my radar undetected so far are daisy, falcon and wilgy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:57 pm wtf are you on about falcon? I literally have said I don't see the point in me repeating a stance I have made clear throughout the entirety of three days and the person holding the shot doesn't agree with. I have said zero about any other interactions with anyone else. How am I stifling anyone? I'm not. In fact, the opposite, I've said that once I'm past my night of work, I intend to do some ISOs on others instead because I'm done taking about Creature.

Nook, as pointed out I have all of 40 posts, an ISO isn't difficult. And if you have questions aout my stance after that, you can ask me. I have no problem answering questions, but I am not going to go on about this one person anymore when you don't agree. If what I said before didn't sway your opinion I wouldn't expect repeating it ad nauseum would somehow make a difference. And I don't have more information than you, so if you don't believe it and you have the shot, whatever man. I can't control that. I'd rather do something else today.

I agree Creature is a wolf and i plan to case him. Im gonna ISO you too because i dont remember much about you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:39 pm Falcon Wolf. 100%.

Wilgy Wolf. 100%

(I actually have no read on you but i wanted you to see how unhelpful reads like this are unhelpful).

Why is Falcon a wolf, sell me on it.

Bruh, i scum read Creature on day 1 and i forgot why, but im gonna find out again. By the way i have all my doctor shots so i may or may not self defend tonight, but most likely Nanook. So better use your double kill on me tonight scum.

I’d be damn if all my day 1 suspects are actually all scum and they are voting me right now. Creature and Urist lol

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:49 pm I probably have to study for an important exam I have tomorrow and then I'll have another exam thursday. My week is pretty busy yet I am wasting a lot of time trying to salvage this game (or at least help NANOOK to in some way).

I don't know how to make it obvious I am town because I feel like most players here haven't played with me or don't seem to know me well enough and I don't have any recent wolf game to be used as a reference. I hate being read by standardized tells that mostly seem just playstyle indicative than actually wolf indicative, but sadly I am too lazy to bring all my games to show it's just playstyle. Guess I am forced to trust NANOOK's dictatorship because democracy here clearly isn't working.

My reasons for townreading Dragon D. Luffy come mostly from sheeping Dyslexicon atp I guess, while the other part makes me just hope DDL is town because they're the only other player that seems to be playing and trying to make themselves readable enough.

I demand that you tell everyone why I’m a wolf. I dare you!
If you don’t you are a chicken.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:35 pm From what I have right now:

Town:
Creature
Dragon D. Luffy
NANOOK

Null land:
DrWilgy
Spacedaisy
Urist

Wolves:
falcon
Guillotine

Oh fuck no. This guy is a wolf.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:26 pm I think Guillotine is wolf.

Didnt i tell you yesterday that your “Guillo is town FOR NOW” read looked like you were setting me up for a mischop later?

Today is the day you explain why im a wolf or im gonna bury you.

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