The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:11 am Unless I get unexpectedly busy, I'm committed to shooting at 24 hour mark. We're speedrunning this game one way or the other

Then get unexpectedly busy, go build a lego castle or get a new hobby geezus christ!

Remind me to never sign up to this set up or similar in the future please.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:23 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:22 pm Okay. This kill surprises me.

Wolfy.

Falcon. Give me your top 3 scum, who you’d shoot today?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:23 pm I'll probably shoot top vote getter at 24 hour mark

Bruh, we need the 48 hours,I need the 48 hours to reevaluate this game, i worked 12 hours today and tomorrow. If you shoot wrong we lose, we let you do it your way and it is not working, maybe this shot should be decided by the majority yah? Cool

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:19 pm dizzy was just minding his own business, looking fabulously cute in his black and white coat



munching on some delicious watermelon

when a trash panda in disguise approached him



"hey dizzy, marmot is crying in Memphis Zoo cos he misses you so much. If you go to him, he will stop crying then you can bring him back!"

foolishly, dizzy believed the fake, gruffy panda. I mean dizzy did have a weak spot for marmot and a weaker spot for tears....he packed some cute snacks and ran as fast his little panda legs took him to marmot....



Dizzy is in Memphis Zoo, reunited with Marmot. He was a Giant Panda.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to kill a Trash Panda or else....

I was ready to death tunnel Dizzy when i saw him replying to my case on him right after i left because it reminded me of the game where he randed scum with Alana and the other player whose name i still cant remember, i think it was OWNER something and saw in the scum chat after game Dizzy advising Owner to wait until i went to sleep to counter attack and try to get me chopped while i was away. That and when i saw Dizzy saying that he didnt read most of my case on him and that he didnt understand my progression from never scum based on meta to where i read him as scum, it didnt make sense to me because well IF YOU HAD READ THE ENTIRE POST DIZZY, you would have understood it, keyword READ.

You flipping town here is just crazy,,in my opinion you played scummy, i dont know if you did it on purpose or i just have bad reads in this game and I was just lucky that Michelle was a wolf and i caught her based on meta but i own up to my read and push on you and i probably would have buried you today if you were not killed.

Which leads me to the next question. Who the hell killed you and why? I mean it obviously was scum but who? Who benefits from killing you?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:23 pm NANOOK took his sweet time looking over the giant pandas

he felt like they were all pulling him in different directions

but his mind was set

was it tunnel vision or was he accurately indentifying HK as a trash panda in disguise?????????





too bad Red Panda messed up cos he wasn't wearing his glasses again...



hollowkatt has been banished to Edinburgh Zoo. He flips Giant Panda.




It is now Night 3. You have until 5PM EDT to send in your night actions.

Hollowkatt flipping town is the most disappointing flip ive seen in the last year, i will never be able to read you right huh hk?
I’m just gonna townread you in every game in the future and hope for the best.

anyway.. gotta get ready for superbowl, party time!

Laters!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:15 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm But yeah I'm likely shooting dizzy today since they never showed back up

i doubt dizzy is scum tho

I think between dizzy and guillo there's probably one, and I don't wanna deal with guillo's endless complaining in post if i shoot him first

This is proof that scummy posts can come from town.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:45 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:43 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:56 pm I don’t think much about dizzy’s vote because he has come across like he’s been having a tough time or something has him down.

This is an OGI read.

He alluded to it in thread

Oh my bad, I missed that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:28 pm This game feels like freelo for wolves because of the level of apathy. All I can do is try to figure out who is wolf taking advantage of it and who is town underplaying.

The setup, plus the way nanook decided to play, causes this state. It's very hard to see the connection between what we say and the game's outcome, since we have no idea what the red panda is thinking of it, and easy to fall into a "I can afford not to post and that won't change anything" mentality. And even if we want to help, the lack of feedback or consequences (actual votes) makes hard for the discussion to gain traction.

Like I've already said what I thought of my main suspects, why should I reinforce anything or try to bring up new points? If I knew nanook was going to shoot Sig (and if I wasnt having some issues myself tbh) I might have fought much harder against it. His next shot may be someone nobody expects and we can't focus the discussion on that because he's not telling.

Yah this guy is town.

I've been feeling the same, hence the salt when I finally realized that Nanook was calling the chop shots, i became last salty when he shot Michelle but I wish our voice was heard.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:56 pm I don’t think much about dizzy’s vote because he has come across like he’s been having a tough time or something has him down.

This is an OGI read.

I don't have the energy or the will to write the exact same wall analysis for Dyslexicon as I had it, but a summary with all the main points will do just fine.

In an attempt to read a player whom most of time I have not been able to read correctly, I've approached the slot in thee ways.


I don't think Dyslexicon is scum here based on meta alone, I've seen his scum game and he takes command of the thread, establishing his dominance over the playlist, pocketing players who are out of his league for a complete hypnosis lol and persuading them into chopping the players he consider threats. I don't see that in this game, granted, I've only played in 5-6 with him and spectated another, in three of those he randed scum, one was in a mash so I can't really count that one because Mashes are just different types of Mafia games.

I was a scum partner with him and Hally and we swept the hell out of the town, he was a powerwolf in that game.

In the other I was town and I had correctly grouped him with Alana and ... someone else from mafia café..it's hard for me to remember stuff but it was a mafia cafe game and I was night killed on night 1. Dyslexicon was a dominant powerwolf in that game as well.

In two of the town games I've seen him play he was a little less dominant, it was like he was laying low so he wouldn't be fear killed in those games but he outed reads moderately, unlike here where he is noticeably underwhelming for the lack of a better word (I don't want to keep insulting people unintentionally).

In the Team Mafia game at Mafia Universe, we randed town, he was in my team. I played a gambit that got us in trouble and when his turn to play came up, he powertowned the shit out of that game, finally getting us out of PoE, Ephemeral had done a solid job but the wolves had made a great job at keeping us in the PoE but that went away when Dizzy took over and that is the kind of play I expect Dizzy to have.

In other words, Dyslexicon is a dominant player, moreso as scum though, so based on meta and just meta, Dizzy is not scum here.


This is where it gets contradictory because based on behavior in this game, Dizzy could easily be scum. If I forget about meta, if I say you know what, fuck meta, meta is worthless crap, Dyslexicon has claimed that he cannot be meta read in past games and several occasions and every seasoned player can shift their meta, then Dizzy could be scum.

He is not committing to reads, he has outed some reads but they feel like he is leaving a way out? some of his posts look WIFOMy and he is playing the kind of game where he can remain in the middle you know? like not scummy enough to be immediate PoE but not townie enough to not make people wonder why he has not been night killed yet that kind of game that makes you think? Would a wolf draw attention to themselves playing that way?? and you answer no, only to tinfoil right after and say "well that is exactly why it would work", because that is the first think a townie thinks, that wolves care a lot about not drawing attention to themselves!
And I know you are gonna call me a narcissist for it, egomaniac whatever, but there are players like me whom don't give a shit about drawing attention to themselves when randing wolf, some of us are risk takers and that is why we win a lot of games when we rand scum and maybe that is Dizzy's case here even though he keeps telling me that I shouldn't judge others based on how I play, because I'm different (You know what I'm talking about).

Again, if we ignore Dizzy's meta, if I were to think he is playing this way to throw me and (those that know his meta) off, Dizzy has high wolf equity here.


Based on flips Dizzy does not look good at all. He also soft defended Michelle and Marmot highly suspected him, I know how Dizzy operates as scum during the night. He eliminates threats, he does not play the WIFOM game at night, he just kills threats to him or his teammates period and Marmot dying could mean that he had the ball in his hands when it comes to reading Dizzy.

I have not read NAA ISO yet, I'm sure most of you understand my reluctance, I'm not a fan of his playstyle, so I don't know what what his read on Dizzy to cross reference that too but just based on Michelle and Marmot, Dizzy is likely to be scum here.

Side note: Why is this not applicable to fingersplint's death pointing to DDL as possible scum?

Pretty simple. Marmot also had other suspects so it is easier for scum!Dyslexicon to try to hide behind those other people if they are town, while fingersplints had 6 posts? and their only vote is DDL, there is wolf that would kill someone whose only read is you, it's suicide, it draws too much attention to yourself, a wolf gotta kill threats yes but like fingersplint is just too in the face to be true, I hope you know what I mean. I believe more in my doc dodge belief and I could even entertain DDL getting set up by scum there.

The bottom line is that Dyslexicon is in my PoE. In my analysis two vantage points overrule the first one and if I combined all three in one (Meta, Behavior, Flips), Dizzy is still scummy. Maybe he is town waiting for something, maybe he is scum waiting for something but I will not just wait for the game to be too late to pressure him when based on my analysis, Dyslexicon is scum.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

I had a wall analysis**

Correction

I had a good all analysis on Dizzy and lost it because the site had logged me out against my will and when i tried to log in using my credentials it failed the first time so i lost it all. I did it on my phone which was difficult to do.

Im pissed! I need to cool off before i do it again. Fuck this site

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:19 am guillo if you and creature can stop fighting we can form a towncore plz and thank you

I cant form towncore with someone who both “suspects” me and townreads me because that is an indication of fabricated pushes.

Why is Creature good for you?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:56 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:46 am [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I dont like how you shade me and townread me at the same time, fuck that.

It's not a shade. It's saying nothing stops it from being a bus yet I still townlean you for it.

Why do you keep using “for now” or “yet”, like it is not a bus yesterdat or today but maybe tomorrow or at F3 if we get there, it looks like you are setting me up for an elimination later.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:22 am I'm good at math, but too lazy to go over the formula, so I'll just trust it for now.

I do think nanook should shoot DDL today

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:27 am Why DDL?

His opening posts were somewhat pandery (no pun intended), and his most recent sarcastic post towards Guillo seemed kinda out of left field, but it's something that a couple other people had done earlier in the day in some capacity, and to me felt like it was an attempt to feed off that chaos.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:47 pm I reread Dizzy's ISO. Mean is not the word that I'd use to describe him, where did you see that @Dragon D. Luffy?

Dizzy's posts where he called myself and Michelle "ok" doesn't look good in light of Michelle flipping wolf.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:00 pm Ok, I can actually vibe with Michelle + Marmot as pretty ok though.

In particular because this is Dizzy's only mention of Michelle, and it's a very mild read at that based on nothing in particular (though vibe reads are very real thins, I just don't see a reason for it here). I'm gathering that Dizzy is calling us both town in this post, can you clarify @Dyslexicon?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:57 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:22 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:14 pm I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

ok, so fingersplints was a dodge kill?

I'd certainly believe it.

I think mafia will be very inclined to shoot townies who are not Nanook and who are not likely to draw a stray protect, in an attempt to dwindle numbers. Fingersplints was quiet enough that she probably wasn't going to draw such a protect.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:39 pm Where I'm at right now


I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:00 pm If some/most of you guys could give four person POEs, that would be super helpful for me to organize how everyone is viewing the game. Or your confident lock town reads, either is helpful. Tyty.

My POE includes DrWilgy, sig/Creature, Urist, and Dizzy


I don't think sig and Creature are teammates, but that one of the two could be mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:22 pm I'm glad you're willing to approach the game in a way that you can contribute.

That said, I honestly don't understand the argument that NAA and Urist are trolling.

Imo, NAA is stating reads, interacting with players, and pushing a night-action strategy that he thinks is optimal.

Imo, Urist is advocating for players to play in a manner that gives scum little information to plan around. He thinks that's optimal. I completely disagree, and think it's kinda scummy he's pushing that.


But I don't understand how you see it as trolling. If you don't want to talk about it, feel free to ignore this post. I'm stating what I see, and it's clearly not what you see.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I dont like how you shade me and townread me at the same time, fuck that.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:38 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:55 pm Guillotine could be a bus, but I think he is fine for now.

hollowkatt looks bad for softdefending her.

Just added NotAnAxehole in for reference.

I guess from an outside point of view I would look bad for defending her, but I brought up reasons why I gutread Michelle town.

Dyslexicon looks bad, arguably more than hollowkatt.

Dragon D. Luffy looks good.

Daily reminder that guillotine is mafia.
It's likely to be a bus based on how he claimed credit for the michelle kill.

Michelle is my trophy even though Nanook shot her, dont be hating and get your own pelt.

Or maybe you already have a pelt… attached to your body that is.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:55 pm Guillotine could be a bus, but I think he is fine for now.

hollowkatt looks bad for softdefending her.

Just added NotAnAxehole in for reference.

I guess from an outside point of view I would look bad for defending her, but I brought up reasons why I gutread Michelle town.

Dyslexicon looks bad, arguably more than hollowkatt.

Dragon D. Luffy looks good.

Daily reminder that guillotine is mafia.
It's likely to be a bus based on how he claimed credit for the michelle kill.

Michelle is my trophy even though Nanook shot her, dont be hating and get your own pelt.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:03 pm Me: I don't care about this game.
Also me: What if Urist can hack the dice site and is scum and knows what we all randed or what if we can hack the site and see who used it and find scum that way.

I mean, I know that's not actually how it works lol

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:55 pm Guillotine could be a bus, but I think he is fine for now.

hollowkatt looks bad for softdefending her.

Just added NotAnAxehole in for reference.

I guess from an outside point of view I would look bad for defending her, but I brought up reasons why I gutread Michelle town.

Dyslexicon looks bad, arguably more than hollowkatt.

Dragon D. Luffy looks good.

If i had randed scum in this game i would have bussed her just like i did in Spider-verse, so your suspicion is not unwarranted, it is fair. I respect Michelle as a town player but Michelle as scum is almost a negative utility from my personal experience, ive heard stories where months ago she carried the team as wolf and praised her but i've yet to see that scum play from her. Ive caught Michelle for her volume tell so many times that i bet you, she would have fear killed me on night 1 if she had the chance lol. This is not ego, ask her after game and ask Macdougall too who also has caught her and chopped her on day 1 for it.

But…

In what world i am scum with hollowkatt here? whom you say he looks bad for soft-defending her, which is my entire reason for scum reading and tunneling Hollowkatt here? You are both sussing me while supporting my push on hollowkatt with an appatent like minded read, you cant bake the cake and eat it too you know?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:56 am The correct answer for why axe died should be fairly obvious lol

Enlighten me with your wisdom, oh Sensei.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:14 pm NAA and Marmot dying is a bit sad. They were the two players I trusted the most besides NANOOK.

I'm afraid DrWilgy is probably just town here.

On the other hand, now I'm unsure if I should be townreading DDL and Dyslexicon here. Guillotine is also an uncertainty.

What makes you uncertain about me? This is the second time you refer about me like this.

NAA dying is….lol

Whom did he spook to deserve death?

Im not gonna lie i would never kill NAA as scum, as town? Hell yah but as scum? He is an agent of chaos, king of trolls, an important asset for scum, so for him to die to a night kill is either because he got too close, maybe. Or maybe he was another doc dodge.

Has anyone ISO him? I dont wanna ISO him.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:17 pm Guillo I think is probably town tbh but his push on me is ego driven more than it is anything else, that's bad guillo stop doing it.

Nah bruh, you dont get to use the “Guillo is ego-pushing me” card.

I scum read you because

1) You treated me like you knew i was town on day 1.
2) I tested you on regards of Michelle's volume tell wolf meta and you didnt pass the test.
3) When i called you out for it you tried to AtE everyone into killing me, something that you never do when i push you and you know i consider scummy that kind of AtE and we both know you also chop to the death AtErs.
4) You have zero interactions WITH Michelle, town!you would have looked into her afyer i called her out, why didnt you? Instead you said that she was ok even if she was low posting, what?

If it was up to me i would have shot you yesterday but luckily for you, im powerless in this game, i dont even have the power of the vote.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:12 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:53 am I would never kill fingersplint if I was a wolf, I would kill me, I would kill DDL if they are town, Dyslexicon if they are town or at the very least a loud voice. That kill was simply a doc dodge, but that's good because those slots like that are PoE so the wolves are helping us box them in with those kills.

GOOD JOB TRASH PANDAS! GOOD JOB! I Approve lol.

Tbf, killing yourself if you are a wolf sounds counterproductive.

Unless you were gambling that someone would protect you, but I don't know if that gains you anything. If a doctor successfully protects someone, are they informed? Also, if a player is successfully protected, are they informed that mafia tried and failed to kill them?

Lol. That is not what i meant.

What i meant was that if i was a wolf i would kill the player who got cleared off Michelle’s death by pushing her, leading her getting shot by Nanook, or ddl who voted her right before Nanook shot her or i would fear kill a legendary player like Dizzy or at least a loud voice. Not fingertips who made no impact whatsoever on day 1.

The only explanation for that kill is that scum feared me getting protected by one of the 10 doctors and went for a doc dodge kill.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:37 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:29 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:03 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:54 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:47 am When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

I agree. Plus HK never breaks to pressure from me, he saying that if he dies i should be shot, is acknowledging that I'm town with the power to get him killed just based on my read.
Since pocketing me didnt work, he is trying to AtE me because he is feeling that pressure.

What are you worried about HK? That Nanook might sheep me again?

the only thing I'm worried about is you getting away with this little stunt, and creature sheeping you on it. DDL I've changed my mind on, they can be town.

If you are a wolf DDL is definitely town because this post is anti-spew.

HK, it's alright, sooner or later i would catch you. You told me some time ago that if you wanted to, you could easily pocket me and that is a comment that hurt my pride as a player and ever since then, ive been observing you, comparing your play as town and scum and im not gonna lie, your wolf range is big but the difference is that town you, gives zero fucks about my push on you when i scum read you, you just let me find out the hard way you were not after you are chopped, while here you are on survival mode when I'm the only one pushing you with conviction, you are TMIng town baby!

Creature's vote on you looks scummy and i suspect him too but you know how my brain works and i always say this:

If you see a wolf bussing their partner, help him. ¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:34 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:07 am

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:43 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:31 am

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:02 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:08 am

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

i already said that guillotine is mafia, what more do you want from me

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

If you believe that im claiming my doctor shots it implies that you believe im town, but you say that im mafia.

Explain.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:15 am Ok, so basically guillos "case" is that I should have recognized that michelle was wolfing based entirely off of her post count, and while it is true that michelle posts lower as wolf than she does as town the shot yesterday was a gut feeling and meta application more than it was deductive reasoning to arrive at michelle is a wolf. Guillo saying "HK is wolf because he didn't make the gut call I did" is lame and wrong.

You dont need deductive reasoning to kill polarized wolves lol. Michelle's town vs scum game is day vs night, If i was the red panda i would have shot her quicker than i can say scum, just like i would shoot you today right now if i could, but im nit the red panda and he is not sheeping me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:05 am I think Guillo leans town, but I would kill him if we ever got to an endgame state just because of the excessive dumb telling & him claiming the Michelle kill.

You know what? Now that i think about it, thank God the red panda is Nanook.

It could have been randed in much much much worse hands.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:03 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:54 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:47 am When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

I agree. Plus HK never breaks to pressure from me, he saying that if he dies i should be shot, is acknowledging that I'm town with the power to get him killed just based on my read.
Since pocketing me didnt work, he is trying to AtE me because he is feeling that pressure.

What are you worried about HK? That Nanook might sheep me again?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:47 am When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Dont AtE bro, you know that shit does not work on me. Find me a pelt to get on my good graces.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:02 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:08 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:42 am LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:08 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:42 am LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:32 am I agree Creature's mechanical rampage following by his declaration to drop mechanics looked bad as hell but here's the thing with Creature, he tends to look too scummy to be scum.

Between him and Hollowkat, I can see maybe one being acum that opportunistically joined the mech talk last day, but two scum doing that is unlikely (since it was just them and NAA for the bulk of it).

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:54 pm I'm struggling to figure out how to talk about alignments though

Also this feels kinda bad, as if scum realized he needs to talk alignments and not just mech son they spit this empty excuse.

Why was he struggling? What were his gut reads? Etc.

Yeah ok I can believe the teammate theory.

[VOTE: Hollowkat] aubergine

Vote in the poll too

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:26 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:42 am LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't talk to me like this, thanks

I apologize Nanook.

Look, i admit ive been salty that I have to convince one town to execute my scumreads, but that is not your fault, it is is mine for not reading the set up. And when i came back and saw the thread was locked and that you killed Michelle I was actually surprised that you sheeped me on her because you never sheep my reads. In a game it even went as far as “if Guillo is scum reading them that means they are town” and it frustrated me, i think it was the meta café one where Wiml carried the team to victory.

What im saying is that im happy that you finally sheeped me on something to prove that I'm the best day 1 scum hunter in Mafia and that we dont have to wait until after game to say, “ok, Guillo was right”.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:15 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:22 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:14 pm I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

ok, so fingersplints was a dodge kill?

Looks very blatant if they killed her for suspecting DDL.

I'm ok with that. We can kill DDL

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:08 pm Clearly, I put Michelle in my top 4 would kill.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:14 pm I might even throw Michelle into that list just so that Dunya can praise me in post if that's the exact 4.

Hmm.. you get some points but not a lot.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

Yah I'm mafia and I'm here to out all of my partners. Stay tuned.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:25 pm I remember reading DrWilgy, Marmot and Urist town from last EOD.

Why for Wilgy, and do you have a read on Guillo?

It's probably for a stupid reason. I need to recheck.

Guillo felt fine but he says he's pretty tricky as wolf.

What about Guillo's derp galore, any feels from that?

I thought him being stubborn with plans and complaining about NANOOK being the dictator felt town tbh

I don't get your thought process, first you say that I felt fine but accompanied with a shade and now you say I felt town? What?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:25 pm I remember reading DrWilgy, Marmot and Urist town from last EOD.

Why for Wilgy, and do you have a read on Guillo?

It's probably for a stupid reason. I need to recheck.

Guillo felt fine but he says he's pretty tricky as wolf.

??????? This is a fabricated read.

Scum

Hollowkatt
Creature

I would never kill fingersplint if I was a wolf, I would kill me, I would kill DDL if they are town, Dyslexicon if they are town or at the very least a loud voice. That kill was simply a doc dodge, but that's good because those slots like that are PoE so the wolves are helping us box them in with those kills.

GOOD JOB TRASH PANDAS! GOOD JOB! I Approve lol.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:22 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:14 pm I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

What you mean a WIFOM kill? like a set up?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:22 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:14 pm I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

DDL is in my middle of the road pile. Didn't like the TMI looking posts on regards to Falcon but their vote on Michelle at the time they did makes DDL look good.

I remember nothing from Fingersplints

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:05 pm I mean what I said. You probably die early this game. But we'll see.

Inb4 this is wolf!you straight up telling me that you are gonna kill me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:55 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:50 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:54 pm DDL and Guillo trying to distance, and it's very cute.

@Guillotine What role did you think Nanook had when you started the game? You seemed confused about the mechanics, though I don't understand how.

I also want to tunnel Creature. I just want to. I had the idea that he didn't care as much about the mech stuff and really wanting to find the best plan for town, which I perceived HK and NAA to be doing at the very beginning of the game. When I read it again, meh, might've imagined that. But I still find his wording SUSPICIOUS. This might be dumb, but if he's mafia, I'm a genius.

These might be bad takes, but good thing is that we can always blame Nook if things goes to shits.

I read zero about the set up when i signed up for it. Zero when it begun.
I got the pm and i thought i randed doctor (and cursed the rand god for it) and then i proceeded to hard claim it as i usually hard claim random roles all the time, then others began posting and townreading me based on a dumbtell and there is when i realized that maybe i should read the OP. There is when i realized that i fucked up by signing up for a game that is not really mafia, that i'm being forced to let Nanook decide for me who is the chop and that on top of that, I have to protect him or we auto lose. And then all of that math talk… like, im here to play mafia… but im not and i still dont know what im supposed to do at night so im just gonna protect Nanook until i die cause that is simple enough
¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯

I signed up for this game cause of you and hk to be honest, i never miss a chance to play with both of you even though i cant read you both for shit lol. But i will never get better at reading you if i dont play with you often.

Ok, I straight up believe this.

You can be town.

We decided to rand our protects. Use a number generator from 1-100, I you roll 66 or over, you protect Nanook.

Or just do it anyway, cause you'll probably die before you can use all your saves.

@Dyslexicon What do you mean by the bolded

Also not a fan of your distancing accusations but im gonna assume they are reaction tests to which i answer the best way i can by doing this: