The Syndicate

I meant no ill intent by the sweety comment but i will not do it again, i cherish your friendship

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:22 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:05 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:02 pm This was the pocket attempt from Guillo

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:50 pm Now will you stop tunneling back and help catch wolves or what Michelle.

I still believe Wilgy is scum, he flip flops a lot on me.
And the reads list as well
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.
I said no
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:14 pm Guillo, I don't SR Wigly

And I don't trust your test, so my vote stays
He restarted the tunnel
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:32 pm What if Michelle is scum with SvS though.

Michelle, did you react to the bussing accusation from SvS?
There's no need to react at that, did you react at her suspecting you?

The above posts came pretty fast one after the other and how Guillo puts only me as TR and only for meta reasons shows agenda fmpov

What he said, that he misread me only in the hydra with Wisdom P#188 (i don't have a hydra with Wisdom, btw) is wrong. This year MU Anni is just a proof he lies.

.

Talking about post 188 don't call me sweety if you want to remain friends @Guillotine
Why cant i be town he does not remember anni?
You can be a townie forgetting a bad game, sure, I forget myself almost all games lately, but then you shouldn't be sure you never misread me.

Looking at this game, I think my 3 am brain explained well enough why I see you as mafia.

If I am wrong about you, we still have a lot of time to figure out things before Eod and I will be here because I will wake up earlier tomorrow morning.

So we have a double chance at interactions. Talk to me about everyone, I already did it, but I don't remember it from you

@Guillotine

In my opinion this is the PoE that wins the game

Wilgy
SvS
Seanzie (if he completely does not post today).

If Wilgy is town then my advice is to flip you, i e never seen you wall post as scum so im townreading that even though the content is uncharitable from you and completely wrong, but if Wilgy flips town you are scum and gteat try!

If you also flip town then this is where i'd have to reevaluate.

My top top town right now is Linear
Followed by Epignosis
Then you, but yours is conditional.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:03 am If I'm wrong at any point, there's another several hours to discuss it. Guillotine called me good (I don't know why) and S~V~S has said nothing about me (I don't know why).

One thing is for sure:

Unlike Ozymandias, I will be back later.

If you still dont know why, you have not been reading or lack of reading comprehension or dont understand language or you are myopic

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:55 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:11 am I wholeheartedly disagree. I dont see the benefit of talking about me h on day 1 other than allowing wolves try to blend in with it, i wanna catch them slipping, i want to take their hopes of winning early, i want to crash their chances, i want them to feel suffocated by having to make reads on people, i want them to associate with people.
I'll take "Posts That Didn't Age Well" for 300, Alex.

LMAO

This is funny

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:40 am Somif your solve is SVS and me then easy, lynch SvS then me, except of course if there are two scum which i firmly believe, the game will not end and then you vote out Wilgy and the game will end.m
I am going to explain this to you.

Because you're so good at Mafia and all.

You said S~V~S was bad. That was this afternoon.

Later at this afternoon, you said you would vote S~V~S "if the wagons remain like this."

If you are a civilian, you vote S~V~S and go on about your business. You didn't do that.

You are teammates.

Explain to me why I am wrong.

Because my focus at the time was Michelle whom i believed was scum and that if she was not then it is wilgy, im treating those as a difference check and as the cred hog that i am, i prefer a flip of a wolf i pushed than a flip of a wolf i was not responsible for pushing.

@Seanzie where are thou?

Somif your solve is SVS and me then easy, lynch SvS then me, except of course if there are two scum which i firmly believe, the game will not end and then you vote out Wilgy and the game will end.m

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:36 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:34 am Why is everyone not here while i can be active.
Why are you ignoring everything on this page that links you to S~V~S?

Im not, you are right, from a town pov it looks like a massive inconsistency at first glance

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:31 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy
You don't require permission to vote out S~V~S if the first post is real. It isn't. You're a liar. You're mafia.

Because this does look sus, although, yes, svs is in my scum pile but if i had it my way i would resolve between Wilgy/Michelle, but Michelle is town so just Wilgy, that is what is implied there.m

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:34 am What's my alignment, Guillotine?

Town

Why is everyone not here while i can be active.

Guys! Im lolcatting

Where are you? Catch me while you can!

Hello! Im mafia!

Anyone here?

Awooo awooooo!

This game got boring again.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:31 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy
You don't require permission to vote out S~V~S if the first post is real. It isn't. You're a liar. You're mafia.

Fine, help me bus my partner and then lynch me for the win, go!

The solve here for scum is Wilgy/SVS

[VOTE: S-V-S] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:30 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy
The fake case on me and this choice is what demonstrates that Guillo is a wolf if SVS is a wolf. Is the idea of approving the mate wagon but showing a solve completely off wagons.
I am not betting the game on Wilgy being town but I know I am town and what Guillo wants here is to divert the attention from him

I don't read the case throughly because is night here (2:30am) but I noticed he started being furios because I was not pocketed by him.

The fact I said he can't read me is a choice of words coming from old games when he misread me as town because he came with certainty of meta knowledge I know is just his wrong perception.

I can't work with someone who replicates on purpose the town game but pushes agenda so clearly, he proposed me to push Wilgy together to save him and SVS, the current wagons, and after accused me I want to save SVS, preflipping her mafia..

Scum has little options in this game and one is to make town busy by making a tunnel.
I was myself in that position as wolf, I hiperposted against the most vocal of my accusers and made the D1 a total war.

Guillo genuinely thinks I am a good villager so his only choice is to keep my voice lower than his, but he doesn't know I've seen this type of player already many times and I know the pattern after observing many similar tunnels.
I played lately with a violent gang and that's why I came back here to heal my soul wounded by a thread full of aggresive players like Guillo

The fact is, he said his behaviour was a kind of test to see how people answers and after I said I don't trust his test he denied the existence of it.

I don't trust that post was a bait to observe scum behaviour because there was no immediat positive or negative conclusion/questions and he came back only after he received a wagon of 3 votes on him.

I am not willing to accept his meta read on me who is faked because Guillo don't know well my scum meta and I can prove it, and his progression went after my vote like this:
1 - Michelle is scum because she faked a derp
2.- Michelle is town because this is her town game
3 - Michelle is scum because (writes walls).

Meta is the easiest way to push and pocket for a wolf. His intent was to pocket me by posting the meta but his use of meta is similar with a wolf who already knows what the conclusion of the meta read he needs.

I am convinced now that his meta case on me town is as fake as his cases on me scum, sorry guys reading him town, that's not it.

Going back to sleep now, it took me one hour to write on phone and no one posted in this time.

*Sighs*

This is town Michelle though.

She just fears im scum trying to mislynch her, she fears my scum game.

Fair, im a formidable player as scum but im town and your stubborness to try to understand our point of view will cost us the game if we reach F3.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:02 pm This was the pocket attempt from Guillo

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:50 pm Now will you stop tunneling back and help catch wolves or what Michelle.

I still believe Wilgy is scum, he flip flops a lot on me.
And the reads list as well
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.
I said no
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:14 pm Guillo, I don't SR Wigly

And I don't trust your test, so my vote stays
He restarted the tunnel
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:32 pm What if Michelle is scum with SvS though.

Michelle, did you react to the bussing accusation from SvS?
There's no need to react at that, did you react at her suspecting you?

The above posts came pretty fast one after the other and how Guillo puts only me as TR and only for meta reasons shows agenda fmpov

What he said, that he misread me only in the hydra with Wisdom P#188 (i don't have a hydra with Wisdom, btw) is wrong. This year MU Anni is just a proof he lies.

.

Talking about post 188 don't call me sweety if you want to remain friends @Guillotine

Why cant i be town he does not remember anni?

And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:34 pm @Guillotine Are you currently scum reading Wilgy? I was mostly curious since Wilgy also had voted with Seanize at the same time Michelle was doing and I recall you mentioning that Wilgy was flip-floppy with their reading of you.

I'm thinking Wilgy looks a bit worse than Michelle in this situation. Mostly due to the fact Wilgy is more or less letting you just go at Michelle here when the same argument you are presenting also applies to Wilgy. There was also the point that Wilgy agreed with me on Town reading Michelle, whom I jotted down that Wilgy was scum reading early. And despite as of post #149 Wilgy moving over to Town reading Michelle, they have seemed content to allow you to just go after her freely, unquestioned.

I asked Wilgy the question earlier about what they would read me and Falcon as if both SVS and you were Town. They were adamant that falcon would always be Town, even if it turns out they are currently leading a mischop, but were not willing to say I was Mafia or Town either way in that same scenario.

To me with what you were saying about Wilgy earlier and their answer to my question I think they might be scum hedging their bets a bit and trying not to get too in the way of anyone spearheading a vote.

Yes I can see this but I'm having a tough time that wilgy/michelle would make themselves s blatantly obvious scum, specially because I've played with both and what I perceived from Wilgy is that he has more experience scumming than Michelle.
I wouldn't be opposed to lynch either of them to clear the other.

Part 5
Preflips Associations

This is a pocket on Seanzie, Seanzie town.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

This is when it gets tricky because i could accuse DrWilgy of the same exact thing I'm accusing Michelle for but what is giving a headache is?
Why would two wolves pile on me, with the same trash logic, for the same trash reasons?
I've never seen scum doing that.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:23 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:22 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
Now I'll feel weird because I'm third, but I also agree.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
Why do you agree with me?
Technically, we agree with Sean.

It's easy to bored post, it's hard to create game momentum.

Guillo observed game momentum was needed and chose the easy option.

And when i said tricky is because this post exists where if Michelle is scum, she TMIed Seanzie and DrWilgy villagers here.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:32 am If Guillo is mafia he is voted by 3 villas and he choose me because he knows me better and hopes he can switch my read.

And this shade from DrWilgy on Michelle is very unpairing!!!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:35 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:29 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players
2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^
Feels wolfy in perspective.

Arguing bored while voting Guillo for bored posting.

And last but not least, town!Michelle never townleans people unless she really have grounds for it, she never throws townleans as show in red bellow.
In my opinion, she is already in anti-spew mode!

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:39 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:50 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
Why?
Keep reading, there's the explanation of how I saw Guillo not helping town by that
Do you have any thoughts on anyone else besides Guillotine?
Yes, I do have.
I posted a reads list.
Wilgy has a good tone when talking to Falcon and Guillo, and also shared a good amount of content, Falcon is focused on solving which is a villagery point. I don't know you but the way you're nitpicking the things seems like you search for the truth not for agenda.

Cat was funny, Sean voted first, Epi was cool, I would like to give them a town lean for each

SVS, I am waiting for her answer.

Did I miss anyone?
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:56 pm
I think your sus on them is not all that strong, especially when the day started as people were going to sleep.
Although with that note, I do want to hear your thoughts on this post. Since you said you didn't like that Guillotine was not creating content, yet they came out later and said they were trying to rille people up to talk about Guillotine. Seems contradictory to your original sus read, so I was wonder if you have changed it, found a new reason to sus Guillotine, or have work that post into your previous world view of Guillotine.
Now that you make me think at it:
His claimed intention is not contradictory with my perception at all.
He said he acted like that for content but he has no conclusion based on that, except I am a wolf because allegedly I should know a heist game have 2 mafia in 10 players and if I suspect there can be 3 then I have unclear intentions to switch the thread to mech talks, so I am his suspect.
I think he talked more than I did about mechanics in his posts against me and he didn't post conclusions based on his 'test' which comes in contradiction with it being a real test.

The bit town sided comment bellow comes from a wolf perspective, for town it should be normal, for scum, 2 would feel overwhelming, which also begs the question, why would Michelle feel overwhelmed? Maybe she is with a partner who is also not good at wolfing? or maybe she is scum against townies that can really read her?

Part 4

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:29 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players
2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

Then bellow notice her answer (that i sized-up for easy view) to my question?
It is obvious that I was asking her about her contribution at the time in the game. All she had to say is to accept that she didn't contribute either but she brushed off with legal OG info. This is minor but still, I didn't like her playing dumb missing what I was really asking.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:29 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:24 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
Now I'll feel weird because I'm third, but I also agree.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
So the votes are because you disagree the thread was dead and boring or?
You chose to not make it less boring.
The boring state was on everyone who posted not just me.

I at least bait you guys into reacting to me, what did you do before that?

I worked.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:36 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:33 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:29 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players
2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^
2 is the standard ratio in a 10 player game and you know it, you are not new to mafia, derp clear rejected.
Standard? Who cares about standard?
Who asked for derp clear? Be serious, my friend!
Stop acting like a newbie if you want me to townread you. Derps are not asked, they are hunted for.
Whatever, I don't want derp clears. Never.

Bellow she treats me like she knows Im town

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:13 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:59 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:36 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:33 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:29 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players
2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^
2 is the standard ratio in a 10 player game and you know it, you are not new to mafia, derp clear rejected.
Standard? Who cares about standard?
Who asked for derp clear? Be serious, my friend!
You are gonna tell me that a Heist game is not usually standard here Michelle?
Is this a question you expect an answer for and you honestly think my answer would give you a revelation about my AI?

I am affraid of a tricky-er setup and I don't want to consider the wolves are 2 when they can be 3.
Do whatever you like with this, but if this is your 'case' on me that I play dumb and derping, and if you are town, you should think again.

Bellow she treats me like she knows Im town

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:40 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:30 pm I won’t answer further Guillo.

I said I am not a powerwolf like you but I have my own style, who works for my personality, that's why I can't play like you.

If you consider me a scared cat, ok, be my guest, I don't really care, but in this case why on earth do you tunnel me every single game?
To force to towntell
Pfft...

#Idontbelieveyou.gif

The truth is you can't read me. Just accept it.

I'm taking your advice, I'm considering that you are scum whom brave up to face me, thank you for the illumination.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:29 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:23 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:34 am
Made me laugh
What did?
Their first post.
It was funny for me
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:07 pm

Prove it
Prove what?
The coloured text.
Ppfff. Michelle, we both know that i have said many time that you are one of the best players as town but no so much as scum. We had a talk about this in the deck mafia game i hosted for you, the one with atomic bomb card remember? You said to me that you ate not a powerwolf like me and i told you that could be if you just played like your town self.

We both know you are not comfortable getting aggro against town, you are too afraid, you are a chicken as a wolf.
I personally feel your argument is a tad offensive to Michelle. Even assuming you are right that they are too scared to bus their partner, I don't see why you would rule out them potentially growing or trying new wolf strategies.
Not to mention there are other reasons to not bus, like just having more votes that are wolf aligned or just not wanting to lose outright to a random cop checkup.
I certainly do not think your meta argument ever holds any water here.
Michelle knows very well that what i say never comes from an intent to offend her and thst is all thst matters to me.
I know you mean no offense, but that doesn’t make your take closer to my meta and what I know about myself.
Anyway let's not drag this further.

My last wolf game is at MU and I have a few recent games in the data base. I just played here a town game and the most recent wolf game here was in december iirc. For links, I can search in the morning.

Part 3

I don't believe town!michelle does not read the OP to realize the game is closed and and proceeds to make this question bellow. As town, she reads the set up to be prepared.
Here michelle tried to fake a derp about not knowing the setup.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:50 am How many mafia we have in this game?

And then here she questions S-v-S why in a game of 10 players 3 scum would be unbalanced, this is fake, she hosts games at her homesite, she's played many games here, MU and Deck Mafia, she knows about balance.
This is also a fake derp attempt.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:18 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:50 am How many mafia we have in this game?
Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.
Why would be 3 unbalanced?

Part 2

I don't believe that town!Michelle sees all the fluff posted by these players before I posted and expects anyone to solve based on that. Her reason to "suspect" me and vote me is fabricated.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:18 am Thread remains dead

Boring

Bye
This post shows the opposite of solving intent
Michelle, tell me how exactly you would have solved after reading these series of posts.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:01 am Also I am going to bed. Good night.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:10 am Good morning! I am going to work...

Let's have a civilized war game!!!!

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:25 am Hello friends. I am about to travel home from my hollybobs. I can't be bothered to figure out timezone changes so I'm not sure how much of the round I'll be present for, but it won't be much.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:26 am I've already listened to that video podcast and it's decent, by the way. The whole channel is pretty good.

Anyway bye.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:41 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
My name is DrWilgy, Doctor of Doctors;
Look on my fraud, ye goober, and doober!

cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:41 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
My name is DrWilgy, Doctor of Doctors;
Look on my fraud, ye goober, and doober!
Doctors? In this age? Sounds more like an excuse for grave robbing and legally cutting people's limbs off. This guy is suspicious, i don't trust him.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:20 am If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

Part 1

She votes me agreeing with Seanzie even though Seanzie didn't say a single word and even though she allegedly had the same reaction with the game state as I did as shown bellow.
This means her vote was not founded on a genuine believe. I believe she got baited and she tried to pocket seanzie by supporting his naked vote on me.

There is no way she as town realizes that I found the game death, she perceives the same and then votes me anyway.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:21 am Thread is dead, see you tomorrow

Zzzzzz

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:18 am Thread remains dead

Boring

Bye

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:48 am Work is done and wow... is this all?
@Michelle you had a similar reaction to the state of the game as i did.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

The Sean votes

See y'all tomorrow.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine
Then you voted.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Care to explain that progression?

Sorry I got distracted with other things, working on it now

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:02 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm Guillo's prolly town, he's swinging at anything he finds sus
Well isnt that the point, swing at what we find sus?

Ya, but you're doing it with such reckless abandon it's more towny than not.

Talk to me about Michelle
I think logically speaking, Michelle is scum.

I misread her aggro tone as townie but i believe now that the reason she got aggro with me is because i caught her early.
So you are of the opinion that Michelle faked a derp clear saying that 3 Mafia is possible and that their reaction to being called out on the fake derp clear was to hard tunnel the accuser?

Do I have that right?

That among other things. Let me case her hold on.

And the funny thing is that if she just had accepted to work with me, i would be in her pocket.

Her reluctance to work with me, saying she does not trust my “test” when i never said anything about a test and rereading her again and realizing she has been engaging with me like she knew i am town and still decided to leave the vote on me, when we've been here in this same position before in other games we were t/t, is what made me realize that she is actually scum.

And rereading her ISO reassured me that i had actually caught her slipping but she threw me off with her aggro approach.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm Guillo's prolly town, he's swinging at anything he finds sus
Well isnt that the point, swing at what we find sus?

Ya, but you're doing it with such reckless abandon it's more towny than not.

Talk to me about Michelle

I think logically speaking, Michelle is scum.

I misread her aggro tone as townie but i believe now that the reason she got aggro with me is because i caught her early.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:18 am Thread remains dead

Boring

Bye
This post shows the opposite of solving intent

Michelle, tell me how exactly you would have solved after reading these series of posts.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:01 am Also I am going to bed. Good night.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:10 am Good morning! I am going to work...

Let's have a civilized war game!!!!

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:25 am Hello friends. I am about to travel home from my hollybobs. I can't be bothered to figure out timezone changes so I'm not sure how much of the round I'll be present for, but it won't be much.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:26 am I've already listened to that video podcast and it's decent, by the way. The whole channel is pretty good.

Anyway bye.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:41 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
My name is DrWilgy, Doctor of Doctors;
Look on my fraud, ye goober, and doober!

cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:41 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:00 am My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
My name is DrWilgy, Doctor of Doctors;
Look on my fraud, ye goober, and doober!
Doctors? In this age? Sounds more like an excuse for grave robbing and legally cutting people's limbs off. This guy is suspicious, i don't trust him.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:20 am If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

Maybe Michelle actually grew a metaphorical pair and is scum here.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm Guillo's prolly town, he's swinging at anything he finds sus

Well isnt that the point, swing at what we find sus?

I retract my townread from Michelle

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:21 am Thread is dead, see you tomorrow

Zzzzzz

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:18 am Thread remains dead

Boring

Bye

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:48 am Work is done and wow... is this all?

@Michelle you had a similar reaction to the state of the game as i did.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

The Sean votes

See y'all tomorrow.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:23 am [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

See y'all tomorrow.
I agree with Sean

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Then you voted.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Care to explain that progression?

What if Michelle is scum with SvS though.

Michelle, did you react to the bussing accusation from SvS?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:29 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:23 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:34 am
Made me laugh
What did?
Their first post.
It was funny for me
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:07 pm

Prove it
Prove what?
The coloured text.
Ppfff. Michelle, we both know that i have said many time that you are one of the best players as town but no so much as scum. We had a talk about this in the deck mafia game i hosted for you, the one with atomic bomb card remember? You said to me that you ate not a powerwolf like me and i told you that could be if you just played like your town self.

We both know you are not comfortable getting aggro against town, you are too afraid, you are a chicken as a wolf.
I personally feel your argument is a tad offensive to Michelle. Even assuming you are right that they are too scared to bus their partner, I don't see why you would rule out them potentially growing or trying new wolf strategies.
Not to mention there are other reasons to not bus, like just having more votes that are wolf aligned or just not wanting to lose outright to a random cop checkup.
I certainly do not think your meta argument ever holds any water here.
Michelle knows very well that what i say never comes from an intent to offend her and thst is all thst matters to me.
I know you mean no offense, but that doesn’t make your take closer to my meta and what I know about myself.
Anyway let's not drag this further.

My last wolf game is at MU and I have a few recent games in the data base. I just played here a town game and the most recent wolf game here was in december iirc. For links, I can search in the morning.

You can post links for everyone, i dont need links to find you. I will find you.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:40 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:30 pm I won’t answer further Guillo.

I said I am not a powerwolf like you but I have my own style, who works for my personality, that's why I can't play like you.

If you consider me a scared cat, ok, be my guest, I don't really care, but in this case why on earth do you tunnel me every single game?
To force to towntell
Pfft...

#Idontbelieveyou.gif

The truth is you can't read me. Just accept it.

Am i getting mixed signals from you @Michelle

In the quote above you treat me like you believe im town who cant read you?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:14 pm Guillo, I don't SR Wigly

And I don't trust your test, so my vote stays

And here you say you don't trust me.

Why are you trying to save SvS?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:14 pm Guillo, I don't SR Wigly

And I don't trust your test, so my vote stays

What test?

Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.

Now will you stop tunneling back and help catch wolves or what Michelle.

I still believe Wilgy is scum, he flip flops a lot on me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:40 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:30 pm I won’t answer further Guillo.

I said I am not a powerwolf like you but I have my own style, who works for my personality, that's why I can't play like you.

If you consider me a scared cat, ok, be my guest, I don't really care, but in this case why on earth do you tunnel me every single game?
To force to towntell
Pfft...

#Idontbelieveyou.gif

The truth is you can't read me. Just accept it.

Ive only been wrong about you once and that is when you were town in a hydra with Wisdom.

I can godread you sweety

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:59 pm I'm actually inclined to believe both Guillotine and Michelle are Town here.

Reading though their posts and the interactions Michelle has not really been giving off wolfy vibes at all. My only potential lead that points towards a Michelle wolf world is that initial vote on Guillotine that was not backed up for a bit though eventually was given more reason.

Guillotine has been sussed by Cat, myself, WIlgy, falcon (in so far as not willing to town read them), Michelle, SVS, and Seanize (RVS vote only).
It feels like Guillotine is getting too easy of heat at the moment I'm weary that over half the lobby has commented on Guillotine being a wolf candidate.
I can't quite tell right now if that is a wolf and their partner is either not here or if their partner panicked and shaded Guillotine slightly or if Guillotine is simply just town.
The fact that Guillotine seems to have the same approach to the game as I have right now makes me lean town.

That is 8 players, im thread spewed town in just 14 hours.

I'm good at this game =)

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:29 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:23 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:34 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:32 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:26 am I like the content from LinearPoint he can be a town read now

Wilgy
Falcon
Linear

Sean

Cat
Epi
.....................
MrRadishes

SvS

Guillo
What puts Cat > Epi

The rest of this appears to be consistent with what you've put in the thread I think.
Made me laugh
What did?
Their first post.
It was funny for me
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:12 am
I like bold and aromatic coffees, something with depth that wakes me up in the morning.

How did your bored posting take us out of rvs? As I recall it took, Seanzie, Michelle and I to do that. Why is it pro T to tunnel me? Where is the actual review and analysis of my thoughts... Outside of meta, you won't catch me on meta.
By making you react to me.

Specifically Michelle and you because Seanzie drops a vote like that and says see you tomorrow in every fucking game ive seen him and it is completely NAI for him, but one of you two got baited and im leaning on that being you actually.

I believe Michelle combativeness towards me is town indicative of her because when she wolfs, she is this timid and scary little cat that bails out and waits for the thread to die to post something.
Prove it
Prove what?
The coloured text.
Ppfff. Michelle, we both know that i have said many time that you are one of the best players as town but no so much as scum. We had a talk about this in the deck mafia game i hosted for you, the one with atomic bomb card remember? You said to me that you ate not a powerwolf like me and i told you that could be if you just played like your town self.

We both know you are not comfortable getting aggro against town, you are too afraid, you are a chicken as a wolf.
I personally feel your argument is a tad offensive to Michelle. Even assuming you are right that they are too scared to bus their partner, I don't see why you would rule out them potentially growing or trying new wolf strategies.
Not to mention there are other reasons to not bus, like just having more votes that are wolf aligned or just not wanting to lose outright to a random cop checkup.
I certainly do not think your meta argument ever holds any water here.

Michelle knows very well that what i say never comes from an intent to offend her and thst is all thst matters to me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:30 pm I won’t answer further Guillo.

I said I am not a powerwolf like you but I have my own style, who works for my personality, that's why I can't play like you.

If you consider me a scared cat, ok, be my guest, I don't really care, but in this case why on earth do you tunnel me every single game?

To force to towntell

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:21 pm
cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 am Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players
This does not sit well with me. The moment this guy is called out for passivity he amps up the agression and votes the person pushing him? Plus the logic doesn't make sense to me, but that part is just personal preference.

Sus on Guillotine

cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:05 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:46 am How about we stop speculating about mafia:town ratios?

It gives scum the opportunity to hide under the guise of creating content by talking about it.
I for one think it's productive as it's likely to draw in wolves to the discussion and open them up for slipping.

Plus it's not like there is anything else we can realistically do at the very start of day 1. There's no mechanical info to go off of so we need people to talk, associate, and take positions.
No slips will happen, but i think it's more likely wolves will feel awkward discussing it since it is really not much value, triggering their self-awareness. It's an easy stance to take and it looks good on face value. Once again Guillotine looks bad here

If you're really worried about wolves hiding inbetween the cracks then look for them instead of trying to prevent discussion
@Guillotine Is this Town or Wolf?

Ok

1) in the first quote she is scum reading my aggression, which i can understand from someone that does not know that im naturally aggressive, it is normal to happen.
2) Also in the first quote, It depends on whether she knows Michelle like i do, Michelle has played a lot and has hosted game too, it is unbelievable that she'd question why in a 10-player game, 3 scum would be unbalanced, because she should know better and also looked like a question a wolf would make to look like she is trying to solve hiding mechanical talk.
So if Cat does not know Michelle then i guess it is fair Cat does not understand the logic, now if cat is experienced and knows Michelle then that is sus.

3) In the second quote, the comment about no slips will happen, i agree, wolves cannot be caught slipping speculating about mechanics unless they mention a role we dont know it exists with certainty. I disagree that wolves would feel awkward talking about mechanics, literally that is what wolves love to do instead of pushing players, they could do it all they if they were allowed.

4) “ If you're really worried about wolves hiding inbetween the cracks then look for them instead of trying to prevent discussion”, what does she think im doing now then?

I cant say if she is a wolf or town based on this but thanks for bringing it up, will keep a close eye.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:34 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:32 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:26 am I like the content from LinearPoint he can be a town read now

Wilgy
Falcon
Linear

Sean

Cat
Epi
.....................
MrRadishes

SvS

Guillo
What puts Cat > Epi

The rest of this appears to be consistent with what you've put in the thread I think.
Made me laugh
What did?
Their first post.
It was funny for me
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:12 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:08 am I like direct and bold, people with guts who mean what they say.

If you see im trying to take us out of rvs and begin playing seriously and you get in my way of that, you got yourself a tunnel! Congratulations! You are the lucky winnet!
I like bold and aromatic coffees, something with depth that wakes me up in the morning.

How did your bored posting take us out of rvs? As I recall it took, Seanzie, Michelle and I to do that. Why is it pro T to tunnel me? Where is the actual review and analysis of my thoughts... Outside of meta, you won't catch me on meta.
By making you react to me.

Specifically Michelle and you because Seanzie drops a vote like that and says see you tomorrow in every fucking game ive seen him and it is completely NAI for him, but one of you two got baited and im leaning on that being you actually.

I believe Michelle combativeness towards me is town indicative of her because when she wolfs, she is this timid and scary little cat that bails out and waits for the thread to die to post something.
Prove it
Prove what?
The coloured text.

Ppfff. Michelle, we both know that i have said many time that you are one of the best players as town but no so much as scum. We had a talk about this in the deck mafia game i hosted for you, the one with atomic bomb card remember? You said to me that you ate not a powerwolf like me and i told you that could be if you just played like your town self.

We both know you are not comfortable getting aggro against town, you are too afraid, you are a chicken as a wolf.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:14 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:01 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:17 am I am not liking what I am reading from S~V~S so far.

This post is basically just meaningless fluff that doesn't even realistically contribute to anything.
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:18 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:50 am How many mafia we have in this game?
Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Pair that last post with this one and I think there is a solid argument that S~V~S is trying to comment on the setup while sidestepping other topics. This is doubly so since by the point of this second post the Guillotine and Michelle situation was starting to develop.
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:28 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:18 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:50 am How many mafia we have in this game?
Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.
Why would be 3 unbalanced?
With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

Then I found this post to also ping me a bit. I find it weird they drop the Guillotine suspicious read in there, but were not one of the people voting on Guillotine. Then they also drop a good read on MIchelle while (in my opinion) also shading them as potentially bussing Guillotine. Which I do think it is also just odd to bring up bussing this early into the game.
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:24 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:20 am LP
Seanzie
Cat
Epi
SVS
MR
Michelle
Guillo
I get why Guillo, but why Michelle? I don’t associate snap votes with bad Michelle, do you think she’s bussing him?

This last one is probably just me being paranoid, but these few posts are reading to me as a wolf who is trying to go with the nice guy approach and trying to talk people down by being overly non-agressive.
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:39 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:28 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:18 am

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.
Why would be 3 unbalanced?
With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?
Did I put enough question marks in this ^^? Maybe I need a few more?

@DrWilgy mathematical balance is not my strong suit; I was working on the premise that he wouldn’t have more wolves than in a game with more players than this. Hopefully he chooses to tell us, but if not, not.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:54 am @falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?
[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine
@Michelle have you played with SVS before? If so, how many times approximately?
Yes, of course. Many times but I never counted.
Also I mix up in my head her meta with other sweet Syndicate voices so I have to read her from scratch each time.

Why?

Then SVS is scum because everyone that has played with you knows that you dont bus on day 1 ever, you are not a hellbusser. I would have understand the suspicion if they said i could be bussing you as i have a bussing meta, but not the other way around. You dont bus because you don't feel confident to survive as a wolf on your own, you rather be bussed.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:59 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:52 am @DrWilgy or @falcon45ca Something I am curious about.

Falcon mentioned that they think SVS was muddying the waters by saying Michelle was being too aggro on Guillotine. Since WIlgy said they agreed with falcon and explained the reason for the sus better I figured I would ask you both.

If SVS is actually a wolf here, do either of you think that would imply Guillotine is wolf as well? Does it mean that you think Michelle is town for being shaded?
SVS/Guillo has nothing to dissuade from a W/W pairing.

Michelle town adds scum equity to both.

What I find most interesting about SVS/Guillo pairing is that in spite of Guillo's opposition to mechanical discourse, there's been no interaction with SVS who is partaking IN said mechanical discourse and has data/reads from that mechanical discourse.

When i said we should stop speculating about mechanical i meant it for everyone it applied to.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:12 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:08 am I like direct and bold, people with guts who mean what they say.

If you see im trying to take us out of rvs and begin playing seriously and you get in my way of that, you got yourself a tunnel! Congratulations! You are the lucky winnet!
I like bold and aromatic coffees, something with depth that wakes me up in the morning.

How did your bored posting take us out of rvs? As I recall it took, Seanzie, Michelle and I to do that. Why is it pro T to tunnel me? Where is the actual review and analysis of my thoughts... Outside of meta, you won't catch me on meta.
By making you react to me.

Specifically Michelle and you because Seanzie drops a vote like that and says see you tomorrow in every fucking game ive seen him and it is completely NAI for him, but one of you two got baited and im leaning on that being you actually.

I believe Michelle combativeness towards me is town indicative of her because when she wolfs, she is this timid and scary little cat that bails out and waits for the thread to die to post something.
Prove it

Prove what?

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