The Syndicate

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:37 pm Made wtf, see the night 3 results. G-Man flipped Cosmic Spider! It's really big for you to miss it.
I saw it, but the problem is mafia saw a trap I set and bought it

So you saying that G-man's flip is fake?

Nutella, why every time I ask you for a case on your scum reads, you send me to look at the iso? I mean I can and I will but I'd prefer you showed me with your own words. Why Epi is mafia?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:18 pm guillo. what do you say to the point that if i was mafia falcon and marmot would have been dead n2 because they were the most obviously locked in claims in my view.

what do you say to the point that i didn't tmi michelle mafia even when i scumread her so strongly most of the game (yes after a bad early townread i admit) and briefly considered from her ate that it would be mech optimal not to yeet her, and yes i was wrong bc i didn't have tmi on her

what do you say to the point that i genuinely thought gman would flip scum, then when i saw the flip assumed it was the seemer bc him being doc made no sense from his d2 play, and apparently was wrong again when doom revealed her info

you have not addressed any of these points. you ignore and evade and avoid every time i get you to acknowledge anything. i am not mafia

That you are a very good scum player.

Made wtf, see the night 3 results. G-Man flipped Cosmic Spider! It's really big for you to miss it.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:27 pm [VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Dude no!

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:21 pm Gman wasn’t fucking cosmic spider, wtf??

Gman flipped Cosmic Spider! Go take a look!

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:15 pm vote jack or epi

if you're town you'll be embarrassed when you realize you wasted your time overnight casing an obvious townie

if you're mafia you'll be embarrassed when nobody follows you on it bc it's weak confbiasing nonsense

Nutella, you don't know me, comments like "you'll be embarrased" may work on people with weak character, but I'm a guy with strong convictions.

In my analysis I didn't even get to Michelle/ Kylemii but I'll get to that. I promise.

Why is Epi scum? Show me like I'm a five year old.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:12 pm Can we stop with the NO YOURE BAD AT MAFIA please

Agreed. Comments like that pisses me off, goes in the realms of personal but i've done it to others in the heat of the moment so, I'll be lenient.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm Here is a clear gaslight/positive reality support scum tactic on full displayed by Mac and Nutella.
like actually what the fuck is this.

this is the worst wall case ive ever seen youre probably just a wolf creating a bad narrative

what's all this mac stuff about lmfao

I'm confident that you two are scum.

I wrote this last night. I still got two more pages to analyse.

Nutella ISO Analysis Part #2

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:16 pm Can I get peoples read on KZA?
Town lean

Town reads KZA.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:45 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pm the rest are:

chargonnay
DaisyCloud
Enrique
Epignosis
G-man
Kylemii
Macdougall (he prob is town but I haven't read much from him at all)
Marmot
Master radishes
rewaS
Seanzie
TSP
Out of these I'm p comfortable calling mac, master radishes, epignosis, and kylemii town for now. Rest feels like a good starting poe (I'd put guillo and boknows back in it prob, and maybe dya)
you really think we've seen enough mac to call him town here?
Not since he hasn't commented on the 112/quas stuff, but before that all happened he was fine

Defends her partner

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:49 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:10 am
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:09 am
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows
I know you're mafia.
How do you know? Is he a partner?
derp clear imo
Or guillo kza w/w lol

Eh I can see it tho

Interesting comment soon after she townread KZA to Defend Bo. Yah she is trying hard not to lose her factional double kill.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:51 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:42 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:31 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:30 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:28 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:27 pm
switch kyle and nutella. otherwise, it's definitely useable for now.
you think Nutella is scummy? Why is Kyle towny?
kylereads helpful, he's normally not helpful till day 3 when he's bad. Also sus of nanook seem genuine, also he's nice to me
oh, and read the 112 x Nutella quote i just posted
lmao you reminded me that I legit caught lost wolf that's p funny

why do you think I'd post that if I were maf
id yourself to lost wolf
If I was mafia I wouldn't have to say anything for her to guess it js

Maybe you just did there. Made looks good here.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:17 pm when i try to figure out what my read on guillo is my brain turns into bees

It's tough to wolf read a guy who is Obvious Town.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:00 am [VOTE: chardonnay] aubergine

this and reywas should be main wagons

Chard and rey look good here.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:13 am mac stop ignoring the good reads with reasoning from the people who are reading the game and good at it

NGL, this is either good scum theater or Mac is being gaslighted by Nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:28 am mac.

listen to me.

and/or look at reywas's iso.

he posts fluff a couple times early game, some shit about tarot cards that never got followed up on

his one (1) read in the game is a vague scumread on 112, the lost wolf that the mafia knew the identity of before she outed

he otherwise completely disappeared

he's probably mafia

stop being dense

Mac continues to look good, hmm.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:30 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:28 am mac.

listen to me.

and/or look at reywas's iso.

he posts fluff a couple times early game, some shit about tarot cards that never got followed up on

his one (1) read in the game is a vague scumread on 112, the lost wolf that the mafia knew the identity of before she outed

he otherwise completely disappeared

he's probably mafia

stop being dense
nutella i have scarcely been able to pay attention and i was just getting my bearings in a catch up and you immediately dived on me and then called me scum so maybe take a chill pill
you kept skipping important bits and jumping to bad conclusions, calling the rey votes lame without acknowledging the reasoning that was posted with them

slow down buddy

Hmmmmm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:35 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:29 am The Reywas post was scummy. But it was one post and then players that are supposed to be better and more discerning than me dived on it so I think it's more likely reywas town and someone there is mafia.
Agrees with the post being scummy
Downplays the post's scumminess
Compliments the players who caught the post
Claims there's mafia in that group
just because you make points colourful doesn't mean the points are good nerd

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:35 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:29 am The Reywas post was scummy. But it was one post and then players that are supposed to be better and more discerning than me dived on it so I think it's more likely reywas town and someone there is mafia.
Agrees with the post being scummy
Downplays the post's scumminess
Compliments the players who caught the post
Claims there's mafia in that group
THE RUSSTIFINKO METHOD
the duality of man

mac and i clashing this much increases his mafia equity significantly

>>disclaimer based on previous experiences he might just actually slow down and read the thread and end up agreeing with me and saying i was right all along

but if he doesn't

If he doesn't what? You will bus him or you will NK him?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:39 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:36 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:33 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:31 am first of all

his whole iso is pretty shit

second of all

i dont understand, if people you think are "discerning" jumped on it why are they wrong

?? did i misread
im supposed to be the person who makes snap reads on 5 word posts from players they have no meta on
so....you're mad we caught him first??

it really feels like you're evasive around this topic
evasive isn't the word i would use

what i am is more dismissive
so do you actually think rey is town
nah i have a 3p read on him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:40 am [VOTE: Reywas] aubergine
this is more like it lmfao

No fucking way! Mac is not the kind of player that let's someone else influence his reads just like that. Wolf read Mac again here, so much for second thoughts.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:50 am Guillo just spewed Reywas and Falcon town discuss
Does this make Guillo scum?
hes basing it on guillo being scum as a premise lol

Nutella and Mac team up again. One of them flipping wolf makes me, Marmot, Reywas and Falcon look good.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:54 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:50 am Guillo just spewed Reywas and Falcon town discuss
Does this make Guillo scum?
marmot is mafia

this game is easy sometimes
i mean maybe but i've been leaning toward disagreeing with you that guillo is mafia

idk i'm less sold on him town than esooa seems to be, but i dont really feel it

This not genuine. She knows I'm town.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:06 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:59 am oh and also he was a cultist in one game and recruited me on n1 after i tunneled him day 1

cuz he was obviously not town, like he is here
Aaaaah I see what you doing? You wanna tunnel me now cause I tunnel you and made you cry at stormtossed. Huh?

I'm town here and in that game I avoided you like a plague until I could convert you and that should be proof that I'm not scum cause I ain't avoiding you here.
this is funny and guillo is prob just town

I see what you did there. So you tunnel me for a while and then you finally townread me so I'd feel so relieved that I'd just townread you back never to try to push you again. Nutella, that works on weak town players not on Power Townies like me.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:44 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:39 am @Kylemii is probably actually mafia.
sheepable

do you have reasons

I have found him scummy almost every time he's posted and if Chardonnay is town it makes Kyle near lock mafia fmpov
hm

i can see the argument for the second bit but i disagree with the first part, he feels v towny to me in general

This interaction spews Kyle town by Nutella/Mac as w/w

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:11 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:11 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
no bad stop

Again. A defense on Michelle

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:24 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:07 pm Hmm yeah at MR's suggestion Michelle's ISO is fluffy and just bad

michelle is town i am p sure

And again

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:15 pm i mean players i dont really townread are

-bo
-chardonnay
-epi
-enri
-marmot?
-tsp

I think that by intereactions Marmot and Chard are town. Bo flipped wolf and TSP flipped town.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:22 pm [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

Bad vote on the low poster.

Nutella ISO's analysis PART #1

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:36 pm We got mac and michelle and made plus KZA and Kyle are also mega town game is easy

Declares Mac and Michelle as town.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:53 pm Just throwing this out there, I found Guillo super stilted in a previous game and they were town.
Ok. Mac also said he might be spewed town for being ganged up on so early. I am considering this

Guillo, your opinion on grogu please?

First indication that Mac and Nutella are w/w

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:27 pm reeee someone tell me who is mafia
112 and gman

Targets G-man for the first time while distancing from the lost wolf.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:21 pm

Every fucking game you try push my yeet on Day 1 like im some sort of policy yeet for you. Two can play the game! Let’s do this!

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
Define every game
Every fucking game we play! If you think im an easy target to mischop refer to stormtoss, you messing with the wrong townie.
We’ve played like two games together

Keep your socks on
Whatever, i dont give a shit. Every time we play you wanna push for my yeet for no goddamn reason. Either you provide reasons and we thunderdome the crap out of each other or you leave me the hell alone and pick another tunnel. :madmad:
oh there it is
Does this make him town

Here is a clear gaslight/positive reality support scum tactic on full displayed by Mac and Nutella.

For your reference. Gaslighting is a manipulation technique used to deny a person’s reality in order to make them doubt their own mind, intuition, and perception of events. The term comes from a play/movie where a husband dismisses as merely imagined his wife’s notice of the gas lights being dimmed, while he indeed inadvertently dimmed the lights by using gas lights elsewhere to search for jewels of a woman he has murdered.

Gaslighting is often contrasted to the positive support of player ‘realities’, but that support can also be feigned and twisted to mafia advantage. In fact the two are often commingled so that it becomes confusing to separate harm from an appearance of support – a passive-aggressive chipping away of player confidences, tricking them into being unsure of anything.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:49 pm actually [VOTE: guillotina] aubergine
[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Can Mac and Nanook be a wolf team?
the thoughts you have appeared to have are completely inconceivable to me. like outlandish. in another world. sometimes that's a sign someone is just scum and doubling down on fabricated reads, sometimes townies really just have extremely opposite takes and based on mac's account of you as a player you might be the latter but im not sure how to determine that

Defends Mac, pockets Nanook

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:00 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:49 pm actually [VOTE: guillotina] aubergine
[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Can Mac and Nanook be a wolf team?
the thoughts you have appeared to have are completely inconceivable to me. like outlandish. in another world. sometimes that's a sign someone is just scum and doubling down on fabricated reads, sometimes townies really just have extremely opposite takes and based on mac's account of you as a player you might be the latter but im not sure how to determine that
Or they are not extreme at all and I hit it on the spot and im getting scummy push back.
like dya said it appears to only be omgus

how do you figure mac and nook seem like a wolf team

if thats a real thought you truly actually have, explain

Continues to discredit my reads by implying that my gut on the slots were not genuine, again, attempting to defend Mac.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:03 am
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:00 am woah, we're really doing the whole guillotine thing?
sure

what, you 112's buddy, pleasantly surprised this angle took off?

Here it shows that clearly that Nutella knew 112 was the lost wolf. Makes an scummy accusation on Made whom disagreed on the build up of my wagon.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:39 am [VOTE: enrique] aubergine

If you reply with a song that moves me I will unvote you
walrus mafia, truly the final evolution of online gaming

(OOC: I've designed a Walrus Mafia and it's gonna be a lot of fun, stay tuned)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:59 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:53 pm @ everyone not voting

put a vote on someone please. Preferably within Michelle/falcon/g man/nutella
G is the only good choice of these the rest are obvtown lol

Defends a fipped wolf. Continues to push on G-man.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:25 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:22 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:20 pm can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right
don't like this post.
I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112
wanting to flip a bunch of people to prove your fallacy right doesn't ping town to me.
yeah

and like. we are not just nuking a wagon that's dumb, game will develop beyond that. and michelle is just town so

Nutella is double spewed wolf by interactions with Bo and Michelle here.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:43 pm look at these shining beacons of townyness like LordQuas move their vote around frequently, and move without too much discretion, while others choose to hold firm in their 112 vote, what could be the difference here
Bruh half the 112 voters haven't been in thread since you came and shat on them lol
boknows and falcon both were, both the people most scummy on 112
Ok

I feel like falcon is towny and bo is p null and simply having their vote on 112 isn't enough for me to sr them

Defense on BO.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:05 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:00 pm @nutella I will say that im concerned 112 didnt vote boknows after expressing that view

but I also noticed several people talking about bo being wolfy and not voting them

it's weird that 112 can drive up some sort of wagon but bo can't
yeah i get what you mean, there's arguments for both sides

112's vote is on michelle wtf

Doesn't she know that the lost wolf does not know who the other wolves are?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:42 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:29 pm [VOTE: G-Man] aubergine

His posts are very carefully worded, he's hedged between Mac/Guillo, and he's been adding random remarks to his posts to give them meat.
this is a classic scum vote post too

over explaining reasons for voting someone who's just like classically scummy/has been talked about already

meanwhile you didnt give any reason for your michelle vote earlier

Keeps pressure on G-man to defend Michelle.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:52 pm [VOTE: gman] aubergine

Targets G-man once again

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:52 pm @MacDougall you stopped catch up posting right before the good stuff. are you aware of the 112 and quas claims and surrounding discussion, if not pls make yourself aware of it

"Come on buddy, step up to the game".

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:05 pm G does kinda feel like a lame lhf target but meh, would be nice to nail an active wolf but it's also fine to sort out lhf early

Admits to targeting a LHF but she'd be ok to yeet him anyway.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 pm @Long Con your OP says there is no hammer and also that there is a hammer at 2/3

Please clarify
That is a mistake caused by rule plagiarism. There is no hammer unless somehow someone gets a hold of a magical hammer but now I've said too much.
I am not worthy

Scum WIFOMing here.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pm the rest are:

chargonnay
DaisyCloud
Enrique
Epignosis
G-man
Kylemii
Macdougall (he prob is town but I haven't read much from him at all)
Marmot
Master radishes
rewaS
Seanzie
TSP
Out of these I'm p comfortable calling mac, master radishes, epignosis, and kylemii town for now. Rest feels like a good starting poe (I'd put guillo and boknows back in it prob, and maybe dya)

Town reads mac. Soft distancing from BO.

Do you know what's the meaning of Hell? Reading Nutella's ISO. But I did it! I have a full analysis and I'm confident that I got her pelt.

Well fuck.

I retract my claim!

I faked it to fool scum into trying to soup kill me and fail.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

[VOTE: Vote C1] aubergine

Oh yah? You guys pressure me into yeeting G-Man and now I'm the bad guy?!!!! How cute!

I told you guys that I didn't scum read G I didn't feel it, I told you guys who my suspects were and the more I told you the more you were casting suspicion on me for not wanting to yeet HIM.

I told you what the ability of the Mjolnir was! I gave you guys time to decide to unvote and you DIDNT!!! A hammer works with a majority, none of you removed your vote!! if anyone of you unvoted, it would have been the hint for me to not use the hammer!! And now you wanna make me the bad guy?! The one time I voted with consensus against my own reasoning! AGAINST MY OWN GUT!! The one time I decided to trust you! AND NOW I'M THE OTHER WOLF? REALLY?

All you saying that I'm the wolf now when you townread me all game are either wolves or cowards! YES! I HAMMERED G but you guys didn't stop me! You don't get to pressure me into doing your bidding and then scum read me for it! The audacity!

The hell with this game!!!

You know what? you can add me to your soup kill scum! I'm The Superior Spiderman You are welcome!

Now you can accuse me of being super anti-town!!!!!

And to those that survive. Nutella is scum! Open your eyes! She was spewed wolf by Bo, she tried to save Michelle, she pressured us into yeeting G-Man, she probably figured out G was the doctor and used us to hunt him down. Kill that wolf and then 112 if you hope to have a chance at winning this!!!

Daughter of Omega is sus as hell too, she keeps claiming different roles but keeps saying that she is mechanically town clear! Give me a break!

How about Mac for casting suspicion on G but never voted there huh?! Afraid of taking a stance and sticking to a vanity wagon instead!?

And Made I thought you had my back man, when I read that post where you said that we should just yeet G man and see what happens I went for it. This is the honest true, so you accusing me of probably being the other wolf feels like a giant stab in the back. I still townread you though but I'll accept your apology after the game. My other town reads are Esooa and KZA. I wanna townread Epi too cause he made me laugh in this game, would love to play with him again.

Sayonara!

As the one who was chosen, the one who has been PROVEN WORTHY, I declare a HAMMER!

Which is exactly when i take my break. Brb

Look. I've checked his (G-Man) ISO and I can't say that I scum read him plus the tunnels I got may be clouding my judgement. But I'm willing to act upon consensus. Bare in mind that trusting for me is a big issue that I've battled with all my life but I trust Made and KZA here.

I intend to MJOLNIR G-man in 30 minutes.

Im off to work.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:40 pm Guillo, if you hammer anyone other than gman and we flip gman and he's scum, I'm blasting you into oblivion because you'd either be obviously gmans teammate or just such a negatiy utility townie as to be a liability.

Hmmm. Ok. You have to be town to openly threaten me like that knowing i got a MFing hammer.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:58 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:37 pm ight, lets go for it
@Guillotine if hammer doesn't end day, we should Hammer g-man
Hammer ends the day bro.

I prayed for a day vig as a prize but meh, something is better than nothing.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:01 pm Here's something.

You over explain.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:01 pm Now gimme 500 words telling me why that's a bad reason.

Retractions, corrections, and doubling back are not things that I care to engage in. You see, I like to be clear about expressing what I think at any given time, so I am cautious when going through the process if construction a sentence. When writing anything of considerable substance, my proofreading and revision process is quite formidable. Whether it be an original and organic statement, a declaration, an interrogative piece, a response, or even a quick and snappy retort, I want it to convey as close to my exact intention as possible.

This is a difficult thing to accomplish in a situation such as this, given that we are not in each other’s presence to hear the precise intonation of each other’s words and the personality behind them. What we are left with is a suboptimal exchange wherein we impart our own imagined intonations, accents, and diction upon the words of each person playing this game. It is bad enough that we all possess our own individual biases when it comes to phraseology, definitions, and cultural vernacular, but the inability to hear how such words are meant to be conveyed impedes clarity of communication.

If a statement or post of mine over-explains something, it is suggested that I said more than I needed to in that particular moment. But, as I explained above, my process of posting is deliberate, and not just because I hold prescriptivist views on grammar, syntax, and word choice. How then is it possible for me to over-explain something when my proofreading and revising process results in a post that contains every word that I hold to be necessary for proper thought expression so as to not be misunderstood? I think the problem may reside in a difference in definitions of the word ‘over-explain,’ which sets us on the slippery slope of communicative relativism.

Your accusation against me took me by surprise, considering I have a post count that is below both the median and the average for players in this game. How can someone be guilty of posting so little and yet posting ‘too much’ at the same time? I looked back through my ISO, and I disagree with your assessment of my posts. Only one of my posts is lengthy enough due to my own words to occupy more space than what my iPhone screen can display. That was the post in which I provided the group with the correct Day 2 votes, so it is farcical to say that post too much.

Do you maintain that even in my posts of but two or three short paragraphs that I am over-explaining? As stated before, my posts contain every word I intend them to. In fact, since the burden of proof is on the accuser, I challenge you to provide me in-game examples of me over-explaining. Please begin by sharing your definition of the word ‘over-explain’ and all of its derivatives. Once established, we can review the posts that you believe prove me guilty.

Is this fluff or are you intentionally trolling MR?

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:37 pm ight, lets go for it
@Guillotine if hammer doesn't end day, we should Hammer g-man

Hammer ends the day bro.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:03 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:51 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:26 pm Grogu, G-Man & Guillotine.

If we lynch the G-Unit, we get Maf I bet. At least 1
Guillotine has thor's hammer. he won it in the art contest. I don't think a wolf can weild the hammer.

I think he is town?

can a wolf wield the hammer?

why do you think Guillotine is a wolf?
I don’t think that is strictly how Thor’s hammer works. One doesn’t have to be “good” but worthy according to odins enchantment. Worthy does not necessarily mean good according to the marvel lore... I think I’m right on thsi
does Canon mean nothing in the world of town vs mafia? like captain America and a tiny handful of others were the only ones to weird thorns hammer.

but yeah my 1 brain cell says I'm dumb. wolves can win it too.

I'll have to look into Guillotine's iso.

uh, so like nutella she be thinking that gman is sus but then is blasting Guillotine about it. says if gman flips wolf Guillotine going down. and she seems sus of jum in general so she probably will sus him if gman flips town too. what are your thoughts on this?

pretty much idk where nutella's intention is. what her motivations are. she is definitely influential in the thread. is she carrying us to victory or our doom?

Guillotine pretty much is leaving the decision of the hammer up to u. how you feel about that? seems like a cop out.

gman seems stiff in his posts. is he really wolfing or is this where mafia is pushing for a misyeet or misnamed or missvig shot?

what about grogu? I don't like his iso and I don't like his actions. he seems fake.

You know what? You are right. It looks like a cop out.

Maybe i should just decide whom to hammer and own up to whatever outcome it may yield.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:26 pm Grogu, G-Man & Guillotine.

If we lynch the G-Unit, we get Maf I bet. At least 1
Guillotine has thor's hammer. he won it in the art contest. I don't think a wolf can weild the hammer.

I think he is town?

can a wolf wield the hammer?

why do you think Guillotine is a wolf?

Was the contest announced that it was for townies only? What makes you think that winning an art contest is AI?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:25 pm Guillo, you've seemed to completely avoid talking about gman despite him appearing to be the most consensus suspect atm. What's the deal?

Avoiding is a strong word, one that is not in my dictionary.

I'm gonna level with you. I scum read you.

Ive been trying to get rid of my tunnel on you but my gut is telling it's been you all along and naturally the people you push hard i tend to town read, which makes me a bad town because hello! Distancing exists. So, i will never sheep you in this game. If my mjolnir was a straight up vig shot i would have hip shot you at the start of this phase but unfortunately it's not, it does not work like that, also Made advises against it and i trust him, he and I have had similar reads in this game. I also believe that Mac has a lot of equity to be your partner and you two forming a wagon on Kyle's in the last hour, looked like a straight attempt to save Michelle and you thought you could get away with it, and well it's working.

So again, explain to me, why Jack is a wolf.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

@Grogu

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:26 pm Grogu, G-Man & Guillotine.

If we lynch the G-Unit, we get Maf I bet. At least 1

Then it's between Grogu and G-Man.

Where is @Grogu ? You've been coasting a lot and that is really really suspicious. Thinking about mjolnir you today to resolve your slot if you won't bother.

Ok. Ive caught up. @Made consider my hammer your hammer, let me know who, just tag me here.

@nutella maybe im just dense, but i dont see how Jack is a wolf from his ISO, can you like explain it to me, pretend im a five year old.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:37 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:33 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 pm Like nobody pushed Kyle more than me, so this take from Guillo seems fake
I really hate that word. Like really really really hate it.
What word? "Nobody?" "Pushed?" "More?" "Than?" "Me?"
Fake
I am not fake. It was a genuine question.

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:33 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 pm Like nobody pushed Kyle more than me, so this take from Guillo seems fake
I really hate that word. Like really really really hate it.
What word? "Nobody?" "Pushed?" "More?" "Than?" "Me?"

Fake

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 pm Like nobody pushed Kyle more than me, so this take from Guillo seems fake

I really hate that word. Like really really really hate it.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 pm Guillo like actually just sheep me on jack. I'm quite confident that his play yesterday is indicative of him subbing onto michelle's team.

You are asking me to trust. You know how hard that is for me specially after seeing how it looks for you there. Like you realize that it looks bad right.

[VOTE: Vote: Unvote] aubergine

Maybe Nutella is right.

Need to evaluate some things.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 pm Who is Jack?
enrique

Ooooh he got replaced i see

Who is Jack?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:13 pm The fact that I thought there was even a slim chance she was the real doc should tell you I'm town. Mafia had TMI, such as Jack.

How about Mac? [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Mjooool....

Nah i still think it's nutella. She definitely tried to save Michelle there.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:57 pm Guillo, just stop and think for a bit.

For one thing if I was mafia falcon and marmot would absolutely be dead now. Their claims were obviously the most locked in fmpov.

For another thing look at my actual progression yesterday. I was completely happy chopping Michelle for hours leading up to eod, then she came in claimed her targets and I got cold feet because it seemed mechanically optimal to not risk any chance of chopping the doc. I thought it was possible she and kyle could both be maf, I felt confident in my case on kyle, and thought if there was any chance michelle was real it would suck ass. And right after the poll ended, before I saw the flip I saw doom post and realized that michelle had to be lying anyway and would have moved back.

Look at people like Jack who acted more high and mighty about michelle being the "obvious wolf" that is more in line with how i would have played that day if i were her teammate. I was p much on her case for all nonmechanical reasons and just hesitated at the end.

If you're gonna use your hammer thing it better be consensus, dont get cocky.

reywaS started Michelle's counter wagon right? And he's been wolfy all game! I had him since day 1 in my PoE. He is one of them!

[VOTE: reywaS] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:57 pm Guillo, just stop and think for a bit.

For one thing if I was mafia falcon and marmot would absolutely be dead now. Their claims were obviously the most locked in fmpov.

For another thing look at my actual progression yesterday. I was completely happy chopping Michelle for hours leading up to eod, then she came in claimed her targets and I got cold feet because it seemed mechanically optimal to not risk any chance of chopping the doc. I thought it was possible she and kyle could both be maf, I felt confident in my case on kyle, and thought if there was any chance michelle was real it would suck ass. And right after the poll ended, before I saw the flip I saw doom post and realized that michelle had to be lying anyway and would have moved back.

Look at people like Jack who acted more high and mighty about michelle being the "obvious wolf" that is more in line with how i would have played that day if i were her teammate. I was p much on her case for all nonmechanical reasons and just hesitated at the end.

If you're gonna use your hammer thing it better be consensus, dont get cocky.

Well maybe that was your plan but Made messed up your plans!! LOLWOLF

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:51 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:44 pm Also like. If the hammer thing actually ends the day you ABSOLUTELY should not do it without a consensus. Don't try to hero shoot.

Whoever gave it to you (which I think is a town role so maybe not necessarily scum motivated) should have known not to give it to a bad tunneler lol.
You guys gave it to me. I won the art contest.
I ♡ your drawing!!

I liked both, but a pirate Spiderman is awesome!

Thank you! =) I cant draw or paint so that's quite the compliment

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:52 pm I lost the art contest. At least I know what the night poll is for now.

That was a cool drawing there KZA!

And Mac is not far behind her tbh. Like that counter wagon is really suspicious.

I think it's nutella!

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:44 pm Also like. If the hammer thing actually ends the day you ABSOLUTELY should not do it without a consensus. Don't try to hero shoot.

Whoever gave it to you (which I think is a town role so maybe not necessarily scum motivated) should have known not to give it to a bad tunneler lol.

You guys gave it to me. I won the art contest.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:43 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:40 pm I got this hunch and im feeling trigger happy Nutella.
Hunches are better when they're mine. Remember your lesson about your tunnels

That feels really discredity, i dont like it.

I got this hunch and im feeling trigger happy Nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:33 pm Guess who got the MJOLNIR!

MADE who we killing? I'll sheep you on Nutella or reywaS

I want reywaS but Nutella is sus as hell!
can you tell us how the hammer works? is it a "hammer" like you choose a yeet and end the day?

Yah! It's a hammer baby! You looked like you really tried to save Michelle yesterday.

And your interactions with Bo, the ones you said he TMIed you! Girl i've seen powerwolfing but you are a champ at that shit.

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