The Syndicate

Guess I'm deleting my joke since Jay didn't like it, sadge pepe

Why is Jay swearing

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:36 am IMO - town lost, so we are all to blame and we all share in the loss. Mafia won - they deserve it. It’s really as simple as that. It’s pointless to bicker about who is more to blame. It’s just a game. There is no “did a better job” win condition. We should have all worked together sooner.

I think you got lost, this is the thread for egos

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:14 am So you didn't read him, you just assumed he was town, and this caused you to misclear the two other mafia. I see.

I think you're trying too hard to find a reason for the loss, I think we just need to congratulate the mafia team.

Good Job Nanook.

That mafia team did well. nanook was solo for a long time!

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:36 pm Well, it's not just the ban 3 years ago. You've made periodic attempts to evade that ban using alternate accounts. When these alternate accounts are discovered to be your alts, they're re-banned, and this is logged in the Ban Announcement Thread on MU. This is important because it suggests an ongoing pattern of behavior, rather than a mistake 3 years ago that you've learned from. The last banned alt was a mere 6 days ago - so your problematic behavioral patterns don't extend to the past, but rather continue on into the present. This, too, is something I brought up when I initially mentioned your ban.

Saying that you want to cut yourself as a result of what goes on in a game of mafia is, I think, an excellent illustration of my point that you get overly emotional as a result of being scumread and respond with toxic and negative behavior. Threatening self-harm as a result of what goes on in-game is terrible behavior, and adversely affects everyone in the game. This is why you were banned, and whatever the cause of this behavior, it's unacceptable both on MU and on virtually every game in the Syndicate. I had a game that explicitly allowed extreme AtE, as an experiment, and I would have modkilled anyone who tried this, for instance.

It's interesting, then, that you draw a comparison between me and yourself from 2018. I'm not mentally unstable or bipolar - the things that you said got you banned in 2018. Nor do I react emotionally or threaten self-harm when things don't go my way in a mafia game. Nor does "everyone hate [me]" - a characterization that you claim describes yourself back in 2018. I'd love to hear what similarities you're finding between me and you from 2018, but all the things you've mentioned about yourself from that time period don't track with what I'm seeing from myself.

See I can tell how biased you are here. You have an assumed idea of who I am, or how things went down. Let's go break down where you make wrong assumptions here.

"Well, it's not just the ban 3 years ago. You've made periodic attempts to evade that ban using alternate accounts. It shows a pattern of behavior"

Well you also assume something here, that ban evading has anything to do with me being a bad person, or harassing others. I have never been coached, infracted, or warned on any of my alts. Actually I was once nominated for award on one alt, called "the best new member" by a mod staff member. Dya said "Bruce, I hope you stick around, I'm glad to have you. You are what I want more of on MU" regarding my first alt account. So you assume my ban evading is a pattern of some negative behavior, when in reality my ban evading was always attached to me showing the modstaff how I had returned a stable mental condition, and I used the alts to try and get an appeal to my permanent ban. Recently I was told I'd not recieve an appeal, so I asked for an IP ban and won't ever ban evade again. See how since you know nothing, your assumption just made you wrong?

"Saying that you want to cut yourself as a result of what goes on in a game of mafia is, I think, an excellent illustration of my point that you get overly emotional as a result of being scumread and respond with toxic and negative behavior."

Oh no, another ignorant assumption. A user had been harassing me in game, was asked to stop, and then he doubled down with a gif, and then did it again. He was actually town reading me for a decent portion of the game. See how wrong you are?

"It's interesting, then, that you draw a comparison between me and yourself from 2018. I'm not mentally unstable or bipolar"

The comparison I made was this. I used to put mafia over the feelings of others. Which is what you are putting value in

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:27 pm I don't think it's particularly dehumanizing to bring up your ban Rachel. Being banned doesn't make you less of a human being, and virtually nobody would suggest otherwise. As for the accusation that I am attacking your character rather than defending my own actions, I've done plenty of that. I've shown, for example, that the D1 exe on you wasn't particularly detrimental to town insofar as you weren't putting forth a terribly large amount of effort to solve the game, and that the wagon dynamics generated by your exe actually helped in identifying mafia. So personally, I think my play this game was fine, and I parked my vote on a mafia member every day after D1. That's my argument as to why what I did was correct.

See, you really do remind me of Benji from 2+2

Your perspective is wrong, which makes every conclusion following also incorrect. You are valuing YOUR READS, RESULTS, over the emotions/feelings of people who signed up to play a GAME.

Someone told you how they felt after what you did, and your response was "Well I ended up finding mafia, that's all that matters"

I don't know if you are a sociopath, or slighted toward that, but if so try and read about emotions some.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:24 pm I brought it up because it is evidence that you aren't a good source on how to get along with others in mafia. What do you think was objectionable about broaching the subject? What I said was factually accurate and cogent to the discussion at hand (what is and isn't an acceptable way to behave in mafia games).

So because a mafia site banned me 3 years ago, means I don't have a good understanding of what it means to be a good person

Oh wow, I didn't know.

Do you know why I was banned Alison? Go read the Mu ban log for your first hint, but let me layout the last event. It's similar to right now, someone like you was doing negative things in a mafia game, bullied me, and then I said "you make me want to cut myself"

My ban had nothing to do with being disliked, or not knowing how to be a decent human. I was banned for being mentally unstable and being bipolar.

I'm glad that mental illness for you is a reason for you to label me as dumb and not having any value.

Here's a tip, when everyone hates you, you learn more than anyone else on what it means to be a good person. I had to learn every aspect of how to treat people better, and I shared with you some of the things I learned during my time.

It's kind of ironic Alison, because how you acted this game and in the post game would draw a lot of similarities to a person named BenjiAO from Mu during 2018.

Oh no you wouldn't want to do that Alison. You went so far as to using my past when you weren't around to belittle my humanity and feelings about what you did.

Instead of telling me why what you did was fine and the correct way to do things, you relied on putting me down and hurting me. That's what you did, not me. You are defending your actions with telling me how bad of a human I am.

So I guess as long as the other person made mistakes in their life, you can justify anything you have done. Good

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:17 pm I think your posts have only proven and reinforced what I've said about you.

Alison. You brought up something from 3 years ago, that you have no idea about. Just to devalue my feelings and opinions. This is fact. Now instead of being like this, how about we be a real discussion, and explain to me why you think what you just posted was okay about me?

Do you want to have a serious discussion, or do you want to just be a robot who personally dehumanized me because I critiqued your behavior in a forum game?

I'm good to go. I've had to play with plenty of people like you who have abused me by using my past against me. I don't mind keeping this going.

Pretty pathetic staff response. Don't worry staff allowing BenjiAO to get abused is pretty classic. Peace, glad that was my last memory

I'm glad the modstaff on this site are fine with what you posted Alice, and the use of my past to harass me. Gives me a good feeling that I was right in not playing again. Thanks for pushing me away from mafia, I needed more motivation

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:32 pm Personally I enjoy a reasonably strong degree of success in mafia and people generally enjoy playing with me and invite me to their games. On the other hand you have been permanently banned from one mafia site (including a recent attempt to evade that ban) and are now stating your intentions to leave another. I don't think you're in a position to be telling me what is the best way to play games in a way that makes others not dislike playing with me.

If you're going to be a douchebag, get your facts straight about my ban before ever talking about me again. Or you can just shut the fuck up about things you have no clue about, I'm glad you made things personal with shit you have no idea about, just show your well put together personality.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:32 pm Personally I enjoy a reasonably strong degree of success in mafia and people generally enjoy playing with me and invite me to their games. On the other hand you have been permanently banned from one mafia site (including a recent attempt to evade that ban) and are now stating your intentions to leave another. I don't think you're in a position to be telling me what is the best way to play games in a way that makes others not dislike playing with me.

Imagine posting this.

I can't imagine how much of a douchebag that I'd need to be to ever bring this up to someone in a discussion of my own negative behavior.

I take things personal? Hmm. Maybe someday when you drop act Alice, and you become self aware of your actions toward others, you can become a decent human being. LMK when

Bringing up a former ban, my past, and issues. Go the fuck outside sometime in your life

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 pm the game was clearly lost by me and NAA smh alison did fine

I'm not in the mood to post again in this thread. Derailing me from the game immediately, as a fellow towny who could have solved this game, means Alice played horribly. I was not allowed to play this game comfortably or hell at all. I wanted to play and read, just relax and not feel harassed for signing up to a game of mafia. If you are ever the cause of making a town member feel this and not play the game, you have created a massive issue. We lost so much EV from a day one lynch that nobody even cared about, not a single town even tried to reengage with me. Town played so badly day one, that honestly didn't deserve to rebound.

I'm not going to argue further because it's obvious, and telling people truthful takes seems to be difficult here.

Was hoping for a different experience in my last syndicate game, but what happened this game is not really a surprise. At least I didn't suffer through more harassment.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:06 pm Wolves played great. I never thought Mac would tiebreak in favor of Bo over me after I suspected Dizzy and nook early on. Dizzy played wonderful too, keeping up the tension between the two of us and delaying resolution of the thunderdome by manipulating townies to push elsewhere instead. Nook preying on town vulnerabilities as usual. Really solid wolf play, and a great team I'm not ashamed to lose to.

When you were key in the loss, I'm glad you shifted to how great the mafia team was over how badly you played.

There's not a next time for me, so I feel alright in being pretty harsh. Since you seem to care a lot about these games, you need to be more understanding of others. Not only will you someday improve your ability to read the game, others might actually enjoying playing around you.

I never realize how good I have it in a mafia community until I try and play somewhere else, where the community is so brainless it hurts to read.

Glad Syn is decent

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:25 am We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

yeah nah I'm not fighting a battle like that

This thread was kind of annoying to read on what I missed

Town
NotanAxehole
Alison
Fingers
Nanook
Seanzie

Null
Dyslexicon
Grogu
Belzy
Falcon
TSP

Mafia
Luckbox
Ender Wiggin
Esooa
Lu Ren

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:12 am Since we’re playing basic bitch mafia I’ve decided upon the following method: Find one town read, sheep until death do us part. No reading, no responsibility.

Who wants to be my town read?

hook me up, our relationship might not last very long tho!

@Alison I was letting my emotions ruin my interactions with you, and it's not justifiable. I'm trying to be different to who I used to be, hope you can accept that apology for my behavior.

Going to try and find mafia while you guys vote me, no more of this AtE and harassment nonsense

gl everyone

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:32 am [VOTE: DoO] aubergine

I support the rights of people that want to be out of the game.

Oh Mr. Nice Guy just doing me a favor by voting me

Glad that you are more focused on being that, and not solving the game.

It's funny how much people are openwolfing in their treatment of me

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:27 am So DOO says that Lunchbox is mafia for suspecting her for the reversal thing, because as town he'd know better. She also clearly scumreads Esooa and thinks she's trying to find a fake reason to scumread her. Her vote is on me, the person who initially pressured her.

All three of her reads are OMGUS and she is scumreading people solely because they are scumreading her. This is mafia.

But in the meantime there are those
Who wanna talk this and that
So I suppose
That it gets to a point where feelings gotta get hurt
And get dirty with the people spreading the dirt

Try to give you warning
But everyone ignores me
Told you everything loud and clear
But nobody's listening
Call to you so clearly
But you don't want to hear me
Told you everything loud and clear
But nobody's listening

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:24 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:23 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 am Come on Esooa, talk about how wolfy I am, it's good for you to seem town

I think DOOM isn't interacting with everyone, thinking about players, or making free flowing posts, so I think they're a wolf

There you go, need to find some fake read to give for town cred

thank you for the advice, I was struggling to be villagery before but now I'm sure Alison will town read me

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 am Come on Esooa, talk about how wolfy I am, it's good for you to seem town

I think DOOM isn't interacting with everyone, thinking about players, or making free flowing posts, so I think they're a wolf

There you go, need to find some fake read to give for town cred

Come on Esooa, talk about how wolfy I am, it's good for you to seem town

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:14 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:27 am @Esooa What are your thoughts on me/DOO/Lunchbox

@falcon45ca Sheep me.

I dunno I'm kinda dumb but I'm fine with voting DoO

Big surprise

I got 99 problems and they all bitches
I wish I was Jigga Man, carefree living
But I'm not Shawn or Martin Louis
I'm a Cleveland *** rolling with them Brooklyn boys
You know how it be when you start living large
I control my own life, Charles was never in charge


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NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:37 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:32 am I'm honestly going to choose death rather than continuing to engage with someone like this. I can find other things to do with my time.

Vote yourself then.

And you say a fake red check is toxic.

lol I felt like this was too funny not to comment on

it's always the ones who complain about toxic gameplay

Alright I voted. I'm going to peace out and listen to some music. If I'm alive tomorrow I will look to find some mafia. Have fun kids

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:31 am Alison did make a good point about DoO flopping on me.

Yeah me jokingly saying "I'm never voting Luck because I liked them on POG" is a great accusation for me.

Ironically it's so bad that you agreeing with it, likely makes you mafia because you'd never say this as town.

I'm honestly going to choose death rather than continuing to engage with someone like this. I can find other things to do with my time.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:24 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:21 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:15 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:24 pm Tried playing League of Legends today because I've been so mentally fucked up and lonely. I am a support player, I que up. My lane partner picks ahri adc, dies twice in 3 mins. Has 10 cs in 9 minues.

I had to go afk before I continued to lose my mind. I think the world is trying to get me to do bad things. It's really testing my mental fortitude.

You should've dodged when you saw them lock in a troll pick.

Yes, you seem like the person to blame the people getting trolled. Sorry, next time I will assume the intent of people based off a character pick

You AFKed so I don't have much sympathy for you sorry. If your teammates are trolling just surrender at 15, AFKing is immature and takes away whatever chance your team had to carry (because other roles were doing well). If you don't dodge obvious troll picks then complain that they did poorly and ragequit the game that's on you.

I'm sorry for taking my mental health more seriously than playing out a meaningless game that is being trolled. I don't think the other 3 members are going to be so upset that they have to forfeit a meaningless game they were going to lose.

Lmao, imagine saying this to someone being harassed in a mafia game and choosing to sub out of said game.

You have serious perspective issues, and you focus on incorrect priorities. I could tell based on how you want to play mafia. DW someday you will be like "i should focus on the overall happiness"

utilitarian or death

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:15 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:24 pm Tried playing League of Legends today because I've been so mentally fucked up and lonely. I am a support player, I que up. My lane partner picks ahri adc, dies twice in 3 mins. Has 10 cs in 9 minues.

I had to go afk before I continued to lose my mind. I think the world is trying to get me to do bad things. It's really testing my mental fortitude.

You should've dodged when you saw them lock in a troll pick.

Yes, you seem like the person to blame the people getting trolled. Sorry, next time I will assume the intent of people based off a character pick

Daft Punk is always there for me to, calms me down

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:19 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:13 am Tonight is a 100 gecs night

start blaring music while I play mafia

I don't understand a single thing you're saying.

here

Tonight is a 100 gecs night

start blaring music while I play mafia

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:33 pm Something about the current gamestate is really bothering me. I feel like no one is hunting or generating readable content. It doesn't help that like 4 people still haven't showed up, but right now I am kind of worried/weirded out by the gamestate and idk why that is.

Don't take things so seriously? idk I've enjoyed it so far

I'm banned from the discord, so mafia games are the only time I can ramble about non sense

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:29 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:24 pm Tried playing League of Legends today because I've been so mentally fucked up and lonely. I am a support player, I que up. My lane partner picks ahri adc, dies twice in 3 mins. Has 10 cs in 9 minues.

I had to go afk before I continued to lose my mind. I think the world is trying to get me to do bad things. It's really testing my mental fortitude.

Mafia and League... Good life choices.

Mafia helped save my life. Don't have anything against the game, just sometimes the people have tried to kill/imprison me.

Tried playing League of Legends today because I've been so mentally fucked up and lonely. I am a support player, I que up. My lane partner picks ahri adc, dies twice in 3 mins. Has 10 cs in 9 minues.

I had to go afk before I continued to lose my mind. I think the world is trying to get me to do bad things. It's really testing my mental fortitude.

I'm struggling but I will drop this weight soon

I stopped playing video mafia because I got super fat, and trying to transition genders makes you hate how you look everyday

i've experienced a lot of drama filled mafia communities, DM probably my least favorite

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:10 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:10 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:09 pm @Esooa let's play Videomafia sometime. I think DM is dead though.

Is it?

The gods made a good decision

All it took was a N0 on Rollo, and DM ceased to exist.

Imagine not saving Rollo N0, what is life