The Syndicate

I haven't been able to enjoy a game of mafia in a very long time with a lot of different factors.

I just wanted to say thanks to people involved.

New era I am 1-0 so far nice. Mafia can be fun again

The setup might be a bit tough, though I'd always recommend saving a one shot vig for claims, especially a protective claim

Well I had fun, good luck to people in future games. Thanks for hosting btw

wait what

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:57 pm lol if alison were town she would have recognized hours ago that I'm town here, instead she and her buddy esooa simply parked their votes on me and vanished from the thread


so at this point i'm feeling pretty damn confident about this flip

Is it really possible that all 3 mafia voted you and peaced out?

Well I guess we will find out

the inactivity scares me but

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:40 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:39 pm Are we killing Ali here? Feels wrong, but good at the same time

what's your first guess for the team if Alison's out of it

I might change up stuff a good bit

Grogu/Nanook/+1 in like esooa/koba

Are we killing Ali here? Feels wrong, but good at the same time

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:09 pm Clear
Made
Michelle
SPF

Town reads
nutella
tutuu

Technical suspects
Nanook
Omega
Grogu

Concrete suspects
Alison
DkKoba
Esooa

For a proper POE I need to remove one name from that third pile. Right now I think I remove Omega with a low degree of confidence. This can be qualified further in light of new flip(s).

All you did was replace youyself with me on my list

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:27 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:36 pm hammer is 2/3 which is 8

So yeah, I don't know the norms of this site, but being mocked for thinking of previous sites I played on don't make me feel that good

I mean we’ve talked about it in previous days, it’s in the OP, it’s literally in the poll that hammer is 8.

Are you trolling again?

The mod put it in the poll after our argument, come on now.

Yo all know why Koba has acted like this about their reads, stop asking

The don't kill list is
DOOM
Made
SPF
Michelle
Tutuu
Nutella

The outsiders who I don't want to kill

Grogu
Jay

Auto POE
Koba
Alison
Nanook
Esooa

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:33 pm Hi omega, who do you want dead

Alison Koba Nanook

honestly now I think Esooa has more mafia equity than you/jay so she'd be my fourth

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:36 pm hammer is 2/3 which is 8

So yeah, I don't know the norms of this site, but being mocked for thinking of previous sites I played on don't make me feel that good

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:24 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:16 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia

I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day

Are you blind or trolling?

Are you

Are you serious ??

You also apparently thought three mafia could hammer someone at four votes today tho, so

Maybe you should pay a bit closer attention to the poll

Two things. DkKoba had their vote on me for over 12 hours, and was swapped in the last 2 hours. You are wrong, I am sorry to tell you. Not trying to be mean.

Also the OP said 12 living players, which would mean majority is 7, Alison had 4 votes, and I believed all were town. So three mafia would be 7 votes.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia

I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day

Are you blind or trolling?

Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia

I just want to lock in Koba, and then Ali tomorrow, since I am slightly less confident on her lol

Kind of wish we kill Koba first, but Alison is mafia too so who cares

Koba voted Nutella

Now we have the locked town Nutella read

ez

I will say this, Nutella v Alison is either t/t or w/t so

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

tbh I kind of felt something similar but ignored it because I think Alison is mafia.

If Alison is town, I will remember Esooa kind of TMIing it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:43 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:41 pm It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

I’m not against voting alison

I'm not mafia.

Though it seems words aren't actions

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

Yeah so nanook isn't caring to play the game, that's a free kill 2 days from now

I mean I'd be upset if my partners were about to die in the next 2 days

ngl a bit paranoid about Nanook being mafia, maybe could be with Alison but meh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:27 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:49 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:47 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.

Yeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammer

If she was town, what problem do the mafia have with hammering?

Is this a real question

It also ignores that even if her wagon is pure mafia still can’t hammer it

?

the op says there is 12 living players, and if the wagon is pure, then the mafia could hammer?

At this point, I am just working under the assumption that DK is mafia, and the people not wanting to kill them are mafia.

Which is another point to Alison being mafia imo

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:10 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:08 pm I have pushed the entire day that Alison and DK are teammates, I spent more time on calling out DK and analyzing them because a lot of others have already pointed out Alison's scum game.

So just because I choose to vote with my towncore on Alison first means I am not chopping my mafia?

Hmm

It means that you could be DK's teammate. That you're compatible with them. Not that you must be or that you are. I don't freaking know. But it's possible, especially if Alison is town. I can't speak for Nanook, but there's nothing absurd or even unusual about that perspective. This is ordinary Mafia stuff. I have seen mafia behave that way many times.

Okay just take a second to think then, why have DK and I spent time yelling at one another being mafia, and DK spending time calling Alison town and voting me, when our goal should be getting Alison killed? If Alison dies, we could easily play the world where Nutella would be mafia for a town Alison flip, and get the misbakes we need to win the game, but here we are playing against our own wincon. I spent hours trying to convince people DK was mafia, and if my towncore went with me we would be killing Koba today, who has been more scummy than Alison. Which would be really bad if DK and I were partners right? The only reason I agreed to kill Alison rn is because I trust in the people who want to kill her first.

It's just really funny that you think I could be playing like this with DK, when the play would always be against the wincon of mafia. It's like you can't read into it at all.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:05 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:01 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:59 pm So then why are you reading previous posts and creating a poe from that? You are lying here, you obviously care about what people push, stop say nonsense.

What I am saying is that your point only has meaning if the pushing leads to chopping. Otherwise it produces nothing other than posts in the thread, and there's no reason why it cannot be viewed as distancing.

So my push on Alison is not leading to a chop? Well we shall see

You took a big shit on my comments about you and DK. Your push there is not leading to a chop. That's why I viewed it as at least "compatible". If you're town you're seeing the game through Omega-colored glasses and your perspective is extremely narrow.

I have pushed the entire day that Alison and DK are teammates, I spent more time on calling out DK and analyzing them because a lot of others have already pointed out Alison's scum game.

So just because I choose to vote with my towncore on Alison first means I am not chopping my mafia?

Hmm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:01 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:59 pm So then why are you reading previous posts and creating a poe from that? You are lying here, you obviously care about what people push, stop say nonsense.

What I am saying is that your point only has meaning if the pushing leads to chopping. Otherwise it produces nothing other than posts in the thread, and there's no reason why it cannot be viewed as distancing.

So my push on Alison is not leading to a chop? Well we shall see

Pushing means nothing lmao, why am I reading lies that the person doesn't even believe to be true

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:58 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:51 pm Nanook thinks I am mafia, but has me in a group with every person I have been pushing. Wow I am really trying to kill my partners right before we win

This is not nearly as absurd as you are portraying it to be.

The mafia aren't "about to win". They need two mischops in an environment with three clears ALL out of a consensus or near-consensus POE.

You do realize that mafia should not be pushing each other, a single kill on a mafia at this point gives massive info and will ruin the game even further. They need to stay together and try their best to get two misbakes. That is their best chance, Nanook is saying the only people I am potentially pushing are his other mafia. Why would I not be pushing Esooa/Nutella/Tutuu?

Lmao it means a ton

"Pushing" means absolutely nothing. Chopping is the only thing that matters. I don't give a crap about pushing if it doesn't lead anywhere.

So then why are you reading previous posts and creating a poe from that? You are lying here, you obviously care about what people push, stop say nonsense.

I love how the people in POE always try to tear down legit reasons I should be kept alive lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:51 pm Nanook thinks I am mafia, but has me in a group with every person I have been pushing. Wow I am really trying to kill my partners right before we win

This is not nearly as absurd as you are portraying it to be.

The mafia aren't "about to win". They need two mischops in an environment with three clears ALL out of a consensus or near-consensus POE.

You do realize that mafia should not be pushing each other, a single kill on a mafia at this point gives massive info and will ruin the game even further. They need to stay together and try their best to get two misbakes. That is their best chance, Nanook is saying the only people I am potentially pushing are his other mafia. Why would I not be pushing Esooa/Nutella/Tutuu?

Lmao it means a ton

DK/Alison/Nanook/Jay/Grogu has to be the poe right?

I mean, I just don't see Esooa/Nutella/Tutuu being mafia at this point

Nanook thinks I am mafia, but has me in a group with every person I have been pushing. Wow I am really trying to kill my partners right before we win

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:47 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.

Yeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammer

If she was town, what problem do the mafia have with hammering?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:45 pm I hope that today will finish at the moment when the poll is expiring, and no one will have the lack of patience and hammer the day.

I am not voting Alison on purpose, but if hammer would not exist I would vote her too

I thought you were town reading her

I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.

hola

Like I feel the game should be Alison/Jay/Koba pushing Nutella/Grogu, and Grogu/Nutella/Me should be pushing Alison/Koba/Jay

Is it though?

Alison Koba Jay is the dream

I agree Made

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:41 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:39 am I have nothing to do until my classes in 8 hours, but I don't feel like ISOing old posts

Hi, am I right on Dk/Alison?

I believe so

I have nothing to do until my classes in 8 hours, but I don't feel like ISOing old posts

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:20 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:15 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:07 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:04 am Koba is mafia that is why!

You will have to kill me before Poe-ing Koba

Sorry I won't let you throw the game

Please give me the logical explanation for scum Dkkoba to save me when i was so close to the hammer, instead end the day earlier and show how everyone who pushed me was wrong?
I mean hammering would be the easiest thing to do, why take the hard path?

I've already broken down the entire game of Koba and shown why they are mafia.

Your reasoning is bad, there was zero threat of a mafia dying when you were in hammer range, all Koba does is bring bad attention if they hammer you.

Get a grip Michelle

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:07 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:04 am Koba is mafia that is why!

You will have to kill me before Poe-ing Koba

Sorry I won't let you throw the game