The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:36 pm I just didn’t fully understand the purpose? Was it to allow someone who might be more active to play for a no show player like myself?

Apologies on this btw guys. I was traveling and I got sick, then when I got here I was swamped with trying to help my sister love for like a week straight. I was all over the place and I didn’t realize it would be this way when I signed up.

I think that was the intent, yeah. Also, no worries. This is an insignificant kids game that we play among friends, so obviously big life stuff and illness are more important than playing mafia:P

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:15 pm It should've been capped at 5 players max. Maybe at 4, honestly. 6 was just...too many. It worked out, but it was not sound design.

The sub out mechanic probably should've been assigned n0 like the rest and the player it was assigned to made aware of it, getting force subbed without knowing its coming is kinda eh

I think one way the subout mechanic could improve would possibly be to make it a hydra rather than subout. Slightly harder to implement behind the scenes, but perhaps allows for the "choose the player in the middle of the game" part of it without full-on stealing that person's spot for a day.

Whoever said starting in F15 is wolfsided has apparently never played a Nanook draft game.

:P

But seriously, this was actually a lot of fun, and having so many wolves kind of made hunting fun. Like, chance of success in a given wolf read was pretty high!

Shen

Wilgy
Cape

Falcon

Daisy

Marmot

Probably where I'm at right now. The Wilgy/Cape group IS sorted, but I don't feel so strongly that I wanted to include them without a space there. I'm a bit worried about leaving a legacy that says the wolves are just the nearly-no-shows, so be wary tomorrow (especially give Cape a good look at; their play today really wasn't great, but becore today I felt okay about then).

5/18

Really worried that Shen and/or Cape are pulling one over on me right now and Marmot is just down, but I think this is just EoD jitters and I am thinking it is best to just stay the course.

4/18

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:14 pmHe's dead jim

He's viewing the thread. I unvoted when I saw that just in case he was coming in to snipe

3/18

Falcon, come talk to us.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:06 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:00 pm I don’t know why Dolby subbed in for me. I probably missed it in the mechanics. But I was replaced for a day basically and we had chat during that time.
This part is interesting and I am surprised nobody really talked about it

Thoughts anyone?

I also found this very weird, and don't really know what to make of it. If this is a role ability, it is one of the weirdest ones I've seen. It could be some sort of mechanic, but again a weird one that I don't really understand the point of. Without further information about it, I have just been disregarding it.

1/18 (marking my remaining posts so I don't accidentally go over)

Watch this be 3 townies on town Marmot and wolves don't even vote.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:57 am I mean, there's still that 50/50 that daisy/falcon are scum and are just afk. I'm not rollin that dice.

I was quite content watching the Marmot/Seanzie 50/50 conundrum, but with shending on there, it's quite the curio.
Can you please give your thoughts on me/Marmot?

There is less than 12 hours left in the day, so I recommend voting soonish.
You, I have no idea how to read.

I know you have the capacity to shit out content even as a wolf, so I can't content clear you, BUT I also am not aware of what mechanically would put you in a scum range re: reads. HOWEVER I don't know if you in good town conscious, potentially throw the game by voting as early as you did. Feels like a wolf leaned power play.

Marmot, I have a scum lean on. Marmot's vote pattern on Sabi was somewhat gross and he's been waffly on me. (Marmot being full of waffles is nothing new tho, so )

OR at least I would have a scum lean on, if it wasn't for the fact that they did declare a vig shot and it happened. I REAAAALLY hope that during the draft process, a vig shot wouldn't have been given to wolves. Idk, maybe there is something more broken that our town drafter desired, but like, if we were allowed to go into this game with mafia given a d2 vig shot, then what the hell?

I was waiting to see how potential hammers pan out since you were willing to drop a vote so early before explaining this.

If you are wolf and were trying to pull civs, the explanation current for how the game isn't over is:
A.) Shending is W
B.) Other W are so afk that the game state can't be forced into hammer

Do I think that both of these are possible? Not reaaaaaally? I do need to find the time to re-read your ISO and Shendings, but I honestly doubt I'd be able to derive one from the other.
again, nobody has hammered so how would any of this be a wolf power play? Think about it. I really doubt at this stage that this is a wolf power play

I mean, I also believe that my play is not a wolf powerplay (in fact, I know it isn't), but their reasoning for considering it is reasonable. me/Shending or me/afk wolf would stop a hammer on Marmot, so saying I couldn't be a wolf here because Marmot hasn't been hammered doesn't make a lot of sense.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:49 pm hammer is one more vote

didn't feel like playing yesterday sorry

I was just writing a post about how your absence was starting to concern me.

Here is what I had, right before I saw you just posted:

Cape not being around this game day has been kind of troubling. They seemed to be pretty invested in the game, and idk call me crazy but just because elo was triggered earlier than it really should be in a 15er, I don't see them losing this much steam considering that town has done quite well. Could see them being a wolf kinda deflated by the fact that a 6 person wolf team hasn't decimated town yet, and also not posting to create the poor threadstate we're seeing.

Starting to think the team is something like Marmot/Daisy/Cape, but Falcon could really replace any of those. I kinda gotta townread Shen and Wilgy based on this gamestate because if they're wolves, we have too many afk townies to have any hope of winning either way.

@Marmot said they'd be around today, but no sign of them... or half of the players for that matter...

There's only about 3 hours left. @Cape90 @Spacedaisy @falcon45ca where are you? Waiting to check in only serves the wolves.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:15 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:06 am *pokes thread with a stick*
*Bites stick*
What do you think of Marmot?
Null. What do you think of Daisy?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:57 am I mean, there's still that 50/50 that daisy/falcon are scum and are just afk. I'm not rollin that dice.

I was quite content watching the Marmot/Seanzie 50/50 conundrum, but with shending on there, it's quite the curio.
Can you please give your thoughts on me/Marmot?

There is less than 12 hours left in the day, so I recommend voting soonish.
You, I have no idea how to read.

I know you have the capacity to shit out content even as a wolf, so I can't content clear you, BUT I also am not aware of what mechanically would put you in a scum range re: reads. HOWEVER I don't know if you in good town conscious, potentially throw the game by voting as early as you did. Feels like a wolf leaned power play.

Marmot, I have a scum lean on. Marmot's vote pattern on Sabi was somewhat gross and he's been waffly on me. (Marmot being full of waffles is nothing new tho, so )

OR at least I would have a scum lean on, if it wasn't for the fact that they did declare a vig shot and it happened. I REAAAALLY hope that during the draft process, a vig shot wouldn't have been given to wolves. Idk, maybe there is something more broken that our town drafter desired, but like, if we were allowed to go into this game with mafia given a d2 vig shot, then what the hell?

I was waiting to see how potential hammers pan out since you were willing to drop a vote so early before explaining this.

If you are wolf and were trying to pull civs, the explanation current for how the game isn't over is:
A.) Shending is W
B.) Other W are so afk that the game state can't be forced into hammer

Do I think that both of these are possible? Not reaaaaaally? I do need to find the time to re-read your ISO and Shendings, but I honestly doubt I'd be able to derive one from the other.

What changed with regard to Marmot between these two posts?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:50 pm What if the read on Shending is just wrong.

Seanzie T, Marmot T, Shending W encouraging an incorrect Sean?

Quite the pickle.

Don't want to break my record of correct votes, I'd like to continue to be hot this game.

I do agree when out into the context of "maybe Rondo grabbing Wisdom's PR first, Marmot may be W with a vig shot."

Shending actually discouraged me from Marmot a lot yesterday, and idk if they would do that if Shending/Marmot was w/t when Dya was in the position they were in.

Shending/Marmot is possibly w/w, but honestly given the lack of engagement from slots like Falcon and Daisy, I think we just lose to wolf!Shending here since Shending is above those null slots IMO in terms of elim order. They aren't responding to my repeated calls for people to get in here and try to clear themselves, unfortunately, so idk what to do with that.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:15 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:57 am I mean, there's still that 50/50 that daisy/falcon are scum and are just afk. I'm not rollin that dice.

I was quite content watching the Marmot/Seanzie 50/50 conundrum, but with shending on there, it's quite the curio.
Can you please give your thoughts on me/Marmot?

There is less than 12 hours left in the day, so I recommend voting soonish.
You, I have no idea how to read.

I know you have the capacity to shit out content even as a wolf, so I can't content clear you, BUT I also am not aware of what mechanically would put you in a scum range re: reads. HOWEVER I don't know if you in good town conscious, potentially throw the game by voting as early as you did. Feels like a wolf leaned power play.

Marmot, I have a scum lean on. Marmot's vote pattern on Sabi was somewhat gross and he's been waffly on me. (Marmot being full of waffles is nothing new tho, so )

OR at least I would have a scum lean on, if it wasn't for the fact that they did declare a vig shot and it happened. I REAAAALLY hope that during the draft process, a vig shot wouldn't have been given to wolves. Idk, maybe there is something more broken that our town drafter desired, but like, if we were allowed to go into this game with mafia given a d2 vig shot, then what the hell?

I was waiting to see how potential hammers pan out since you were willing to drop a vote so early before explaining this.

If you are wolf and were trying to pull civs, the explanation current for how the game isn't over is:
A.) Shending is W
B.) Other W are so afk that the game state can't be forced into hammer

Do I think that both of these are possible? Not reaaaaaally? I do need to find the time to re-read your ISO and Shendings, but I honestly doubt I'd be able to derive one from the other.
When have you seen me wolf?
Reanimators

Oh, that's fair. I forgot about hosting.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:57 am I mean, there's still that 50/50 that daisy/falcon are scum and are just afk. I'm not rollin that dice.

I was quite content watching the Marmot/Seanzie 50/50 conundrum, but with shending on there, it's quite the curio.
Can you please give your thoughts on me/Marmot?

There is less than 12 hours left in the day, so I recommend voting soonish.
You, I have no idea how to read.

I know you have the capacity to shit out content even as a wolf, so I can't content clear you, BUT I also am not aware of what mechanically would put you in a scum range re: reads. HOWEVER I don't know if you in good town conscious, potentially throw the game by voting as early as you did. Feels like a wolf leaned power play.

Marmot, I have a scum lean on. Marmot's vote pattern on Sabi was somewhat gross and he's been waffly on me. (Marmot being full of waffles is nothing new tho, so )

OR at least I would have a scum lean on, if it wasn't for the fact that they did declare a vig shot and it happened. I REAAAALLY hope that during the draft process, a vig shot wouldn't have been given to wolves. Idk, maybe there is something more broken that our town drafter desired, but like, if we were allowed to go into this game with mafia given a d2 vig shot, then what the hell?

I was waiting to see how potential hammers pan out since you were willing to drop a vote so early before explaining this.

If you are wolf and were trying to pull civs, the explanation current for how the game isn't over is:
A.) Shending is W
B.) Other W are so afk that the game state can't be forced into hammer

Do I think that both of these are possible? Not reaaaaaally? I do need to find the time to re-read your ISO and Shendings, but I honestly doubt I'd be able to derive one from the other.

When have you seen me wolf?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:25 am So just a drafting process thoughts,

We know alignments, Marmot's vig shot, Sabi's RB, and I'll reveal odd night jailer (action 1 was on Marmot, action n3 was on Shending) were up for grabs.

It'd be in W favor to grab players, as a player pickup may as well be an extra NK OR a vig shot.

When given the option as town who'd have a number advantage anyhow, one would assume they'd pick up the PR's. (this can be reflected by me having jailer and sabie having RB) at least.

SO does town allow a d2 bullet to go to wolves? I REAAAAAAAAAAALLY don't think so.

Wolves have 8 draft picks and could only take 6 players, so the first two picks LC made were likely non-player picks (either roles or mechanics). Town had one pick before wolves got 2. I agree that a vig shot is a pretty big prize but, my guess would be that Rondo choose Wisdom's role first though (tracker/watcher), or perhaps someone else hasn't claimed yet, but if they haven't that's some BS because we need the info to solve this.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:27 am I'm holding vote until Marmot comes back.

I'm making due with what I can, and I do think it is in my best interest to wait to Marmot who has a proven kill to return.

Is there a W in both Seanzie and Shending? I sure as hell hope not.

are Wolves afk? I'd think so based on Seanzie's shouting to the wind.

Marmot was viewing the thread this morning, but didn't post. The current empty thread benefits wolves, so I appreciate you being here to give some thoughts.

I understand waiting to vote, but please make sure you're here before/at EoD. Even two scum could snipe a tie given the current votes, and while I hope everyone will show up for EoD, given how empty the thread has been, I am not confident on this.

@Cape90 yesterday you said you would have voted Marmot when Marmot and I were crossed. Today you've had ample opportunity to, but you're nowhere to be seen. What has changed?

Like, I can't do this alone. I just can't. I need the absentee townies to show up. Please.

I'm not going to lie, I am getting pretty frustrated with the lack of engagement from the thread. Where the *** is everyone?

Can y'all at least like check in and acknowledge the situation going on? At least two town haven't voted yet, and the wolves could easily be waiting, deliberately fostering this dead threadstate, in order to be able to snipe close to EoD.

@Cape90 @falcon45ca @Spacedaisy @DrWilgy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:57 am I mean, there's still that 50/50 that daisy/falcon are scum and are just afk. I'm not rollin that dice.

I was quite content watching the Marmot/Seanzie 50/50 conundrum, but with shending on there, it's quite the curio.

Can you please give your thoughts on me/Marmot?

There is less than 12 hours left in the day, so I recommend voting soonish.

Game's still not over, which is further evidence of wolf!Marmot. Y'all are going to need to get in here and make a decision between me and Marmot sometime soon. Please don't skip voting as then wolves could snipe a tie possibly.

(tonight as in in-game night, so like tomorrow before EoD)

I really need the few of you that are town to get in here and really try to show yourselves. Please just come in and try to do what you can to clear yourselves. If Marmot is a hit, I'm dead tonight, and I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate to push the game forward in my absence, so I'd like to leave a legacy tonight.

@Cape90 @DrWilgy @falcon45ca @Spacedaisy

Can y'all come in and comment on the fact that Marmot has had a vote on him for almost a day, and two for a few hours? Like every minute that goes by with the game not ending increases the chances of a wolf in me/Shending/Marmot.

Whelp this has not been as interesting as I thought it was going to be. Can some people get in here and like... type letters with spaces separating them?

This is where it gets interesting...

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:28 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:15 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:06 am *pokes thread with a stick*
*Bites stick*
What do you think of Marmot?
Null. What do you think of Daisy?
Marmot is one of the most active members of the thread, how are you null on them?

The whole Daisy -> Dolby -> Daisy thing kinda throws me for a loop. They sure haven't done a lot, which is concerning, even though their vote on HK D1 was timed well, and now that Sabi has flipped town, it is probably a good look. Their recent post also has some good takes, but I am a little concerned because they seem to be significantly more caught-up and aware of the entire thread than I would expect from a slot that has been pretty much completely silent all game, which sometimes is suggestive of a wolf lurking. I also don't like how their read of me seems to mostly just be borrowed from Dunya - whom I believe may have been partially killed to try to frame me (hint: it won't work). What do you think of Daisy?
Sounds like it isn't be too hard to make you vote Daisy instead? I think it hits a wolf more times than Marmot does

I've been on Marmot for about 18 hours now, and in all that time every person except Falcon have checked in, which very very strongly suggests that there is at least one wolf in Falcon/Marmot. I am unlikely to vote outside of those two today, and still leaning towards Marmot.

this board is so empty I feel like I should shout

Echo!

Echo!

Echo!

Echo!

Echo

Echo

echo

echo

echo... echo... echo... echo... echo... echo... echo...

The lack of engagement with this game is going to lead to a town loss. Please people start playing. @DrWilgy @falcon45ca @Spacedaisy also everyone else, but those are the people who have done markedly less than everyone else.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:15 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:06 am *pokes thread with a stick*
*Bites stick*
What do you think of Marmot?
Null. What do you think of Daisy?

Marmot is one of the most active members of the thread, how are you null on them?

The whole Daisy -> Dolby -> Daisy thing kinda throws me for a loop. They sure haven't done a lot, which is concerning, even though their vote on HK D1 was timed well, and now that Sabi has flipped town, it is probably a good look. Their recent post also has some good takes, but I am a little concerned because they seem to be significantly more caught-up and aware of the entire thread than I would expect from a slot that has been pretty much completely silent all game, which sometimes is suggestive of a wolf lurking. I also don't like how their read of me seems to mostly just be borrowed from Dunya - whom I believe may have been partially killed to try to frame me (hint: it won't work). What do you think of Daisy?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:06 am *pokes thread with a stick*
*Bites stick*

What do you think of Marmot?

*pokes thread with a stick*

I think I'm pretty locked on Marmot at this point. If I'm wrong, sorry, but I don't think I am.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:00 pm I don’t know why Dolby subbed in for me. I probably missed it in the mechanics. But I was replaced for a day basically and we had chat during that time.

That's weird.

Anyways, you're one of the low content slots that is making this game very difficult to solve. Would you mind walking me through your current worldview? Who are wolves, who are town, and do you have a claim? (I called for a massclaim yesterday, maybe half the people have claimed. The rest are mostly inactive).

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:51 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:19 pm i dont want to claim. i softed though. anyone who knows me knows my role.
Mafia likely killed dunya off this.

dunya was on the side of seeing Seanzie as mafia and Marmot as town

Spoiler: show
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:09 am i think seanzie really bit the bullet today for a wolf win. he could have pushed me, but it was a bit hasty to go after marmot.

im still angry we didn't get dya today, but the fact im 100% sure marmot is town here points to being 100% sure seanzie is wolf.

one thing i note about dya's playstyle when they're wolf or town tbh, is that they react a bit more strongly when interrogated by people. they didn't have the same reactions with a seanzie push because they were comfortable---because seanzie is town.

compare that to my push, i get "tfw you are tunneled by the only person you signed up to play with" which yea, made me back off. after all, dya has teammates and i enjoy playing with them. the one game were dya and i were t/t we found each other---every other time dya nulls me when they're wolf and i'm town because i can't give them an easy town read either. because they are being timid and conservative and keeping the poe open. pushing for falcon, then including wilgy---the coasters and low posters or mia'ers. i just don't at all buy the genuininty of that.

again, really wish we could yeet dya today, because i'm way more comfortable there, but i feel seanize has kinda outed himself today as well.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:09 am i think seanzie really bit the bullet today for a wolf win. he could have pushed me, but it was a bit hasty to go after marmot.

im still angry we didn't get dya today, but the fact im 100% sure marmot is town here points to being 100% sure seanzie is wolf.

one thing i note about dya's playstyle when they're wolf or town tbh, is that they react a bit more strongly when interrogated by people. they didn't have the same reactions with a seanzie push because they were comfortable---because seanzie is town.

compare that to my push, i get "tfw you are tunneled by the only person you signed up to play with" which yea, made me back off. after all, dya has teammates and i enjoy playing with them. the one game were dya and i were t/t we found each other---every other time dya nulls me when they're wolf and i'm town because i can't give them an easy town read either. because they are being timid and conservative and keeping the poe open. pushing for falcon, then including wilgy---the coasters and low posters or mia'ers. i just don't at all buy the genuininty of that.

again, really wish we could yeet dya today, because i'm way more comfortable there, but i feel seanize has kinda outed himself today as well.
hahaha

because seanize is wolf

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:11 am im flabbergasted by seanzie's wolf play today tbh. can't wrap my head around it beyond dya and falcon have PRs and nook is allowing the wolf team to control falcon's PR and seanize is goon.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:02 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:58 am
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:54 am there's no way seanzie gets marmot this wrong, he was begging for a misyeet to win the game. there's no way seanzie as town doesn't vote dya today.

the fact he went and quickly voted marmot is telling in itself.

there's no way marmot is wolf. i will bank on that.
Pretty sure the only time we've actually played together I tunneled you when everyone else thought you were town. Why is this game different?
are you consciously trying to mimic your town game?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:12 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:09 am
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:08 am Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1
hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie
Still waiting for you to answer my original question.
because you removed your vote off Marmot
That doesn't answer the question. I asked how I am different now compared to the game I tunnelled you in. You deflected rather than answered.
as hard as you try, i'm not going to meta you based on 1 game, seanzie, sorry.
If Seanzie is town though like I think they are, then I would assume it was for reason 1.

Plus Dunya was reasonably well townread and her kill could set up a miselim on me, but yeah, I agree that her softing likely helped.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:43 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 pm I will say

The only world where Marmot/Seanzie could possibly be T/T is if falcon is mafia since falcon has not been here

Didn't consider that yesterday
Multiple people haven't been here, but yeah, the fact that I didn't get hammered when Marmot and I crossed for a night is strongly indicative of either wolf!Marmot or some absentee wolves (or both).
Well, everyone else at least did something yesterday. Even if lack of thread presence from multiple people.

It's making the game a bit annoying for me because it's like

I wanna be here less just because half the people arent here

That's fair. I'm just cognisent that it was overnight and a lot of people have been extremely inactive, so I don't want to confbias my way into assuming Marmot has to be wolf because they weren't hammered. I'd rather confbias over other things, like Marmot lurking, or the fact that his shot was loud but I don't think he gave any indication of this, which made his play around the shot seem a lot more AI than it actually was.

Yeah, this has been a tough gamestate to play in due to inactives. Fighting through it is all well can do though.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 pm I will say

The only world where Marmot/Seanzie could possibly be T/T is if falcon is mafia since falcon has not been here

Didn't consider that yesterday

Multiple people haven't been here, but yeah, the fact that I didn't get hammered when Marmot and I crossed for a night is strongly indicative of either wolf!Marmot or some absentee wolves (or both).

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:35 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...

Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
This is not the argument that Sean was presenting in

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:24 pm I still kinda like the idea of Shending/Marmot
Like literally Sean would literally just have to be like "well I guess so"

Anyways sorry for being late in thread but I was honestly lurking just to see what Marmot would do at SOD today

Sean's whole

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:12 pm Marmots being a lurkyboi

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm Hey folks, I won't be around much tonight or tomorrow due to prior engagements and traveling back home, but I'll be available during the final 10 hours of the day phase on Mon.
Why you been such a lurkyboi?
Like these comments are admittedly odd to me

What is odd about them? Marmot was viewing the thread for long periods of time without posting. Lurkyboi status achieved.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:26 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong
Marmot's shot was loud...

I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.
aren't all shots "loud" in the whole ITA thing that happened or is that not what your talking about

I'm talking about Marmot's dayvig, not the ITAs.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm Hey folks, I won't be around much tonight or tomorrow due to prior engagements and traveling back home, but I'll be available during the final 10 hours of the day phase on Mon.

Does your role have a "loud" modifier?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm Hey folks, I won't be around much tonight or tomorrow due to prior engagements and traveling back home, but I'll be available during the final 10 hours of the day phase on Mon.

Why you been such a lurkyboi?

I'm probably going to vote Marmot again.

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong

Marmot's shot was loud...

I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.

Marmots being a lurkyboi

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:03 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...

Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
I only mentioned you in regards to a you/Marmot world, so all your arguments don't work. But... The "Sean.." is super townie. Like you've clearly exasperated, not worried, just exasperated.
Why would I be exasperated in that gamestate, especially when Dunya (now conf. Town) was going in on you during that time? I would've had the win in the grasp of my hand, but decided to commit super hard to try to stop that bullshit from happening

The "exasperated" thing was specifically a microread based on you starting your post with "Sean..". You are exasperated by my first post from today in a way that I think probably points to you being town. Not clearing you, but I'm conaidering worlds without you right now.

Marmot, tell me you're not a wolf.

Wilgy/Falcon/Spacedaisy feels too easy.

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...

Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V

I only mentioned you in regards to a you/Marmot world, so all your arguments don't work. But... The "Sean.." is super townie. Like you've clearly exasperated, not worried, just exasperated.

So there was at lesat one busser on Dya, but honestly how the day went, I'd guess it is more likely two. It would have made little sense for wolves to try to push someone over Dya in that thread.

That would give two wolves in:

Shending_Help, DrWilgy, Marmot, Cape90

and one in:

falcon45ca, dolby

Wilgy's hammer definitely doesn't have to be pure. I still kinda like the idea of Shending/Marmot, but Dunya seemed pretty convinced Marmot was town, so I might sheep her read there at least for today. Cape is someone who I have felt fine about all game, and thus kinda just ignored, so I suppose I should really try to revaluate them to make sure they aren't slipping by.

On the other grouping, I just don't remember anything either of these slots did. @falcon45ca please get in here and post as much content as you can. @Spacedaisy please get in here and post as much content as you can.

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