The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:45 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:42 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:41 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:39 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:30 pm also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense
I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?
i haven't played with him in a long time, but when he was a wolf, i caught him, when he was a villa, i found him
And you feel like you caught him?
nah it's too early to tell lol. i don't claim that type of confidence, i wouldn't say he's outed and to swap the wagon from xanj.

im a bit selfish and want to see it go through. i think xan is a villager solely cuz there was no cw all game, but he was here and seems to not have posted in a long time so maybe he's just a wolf

Belzy was a CW for a lot of the day.

I'm kind of okay with Wilgy/Xan wagons.

Also Ted continues to look good on this mage IMO.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:10 pm gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.
Why is your vote on Falcon?
Falcon is flying utr imo. Why is that?

Falcon is often utr, I'm not sure if that is AI. Some of his pushes have felt good to me though. In particular, his original Xan push had teeth in a way that I think Falcon has a hard time faking as mafia. Not impossible to fake, but hard to.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:36 pm Yeah, I feel pretty lost right now not gonna lie. Someone tell me what to believe. Give me reads I can sheep.
This is not the Seanzie I saw last outing.
And? Do you have any conclusions to draw, or are you doing that politician thing again?
You're mafia. That's my conclusion.

I don't know what politician thing you're talking about or why you say "again."

When you're a wolf, you do this thing where you speak in a way that can be interpreted by the audience in whatever way the audience wants to interpret it, instead of giving clear content. It reminds me of how some politicians speak.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:13 pm How did Xan become such a strong consensus?

I think there are a few different things different people are seeing. For me personally, I feel like there was a great tonal shift (Falcon was kinda the first to point this out) in Xan this game vs. last, and after being pressured about it, they seemed to really try to emulate some of the ways they were pushing last game. Esooa made a good point that Xan is doing very little solving compared to last game (even though I don't think Esooa is on the wagon, and it was unclear to me if they came out of their Xan reading with a strong scumread, a light scumread, or a wishy-washy townread/null read or something).

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:10 pm gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

Why is your vote on Falcon?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:03 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:40 pm I'm most interested in Seanzie's observation that the wagon on Belzy is bad.

Here's what Seanzie provided:

"Tutuu is... Tutuu."
"Ted actually does look pretty townie"
And I "don't."

That's it. Seanzie doesn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon because I'm on it.

This is not a civilian. This is someone who knows Belzy's alignment and got caught making a blithe observation about it.
I have a hard time thinking that you aren't purposefully reducing key things here.

I also didn't like Ted when I first said it, but only after Xan said something did I re-eval on Ted and change my mind. Also, Tutuu beingTutuu is null/meh, so there was no one I liked on it, and multiple people I was wary of (even though that changed again once I looked into Ted)
You made the comment that you didn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon.

I asked "What's wrong with it?"

You said nothing about tutuu, proceeded to call ted good, and said I haven't made an impression.

You backtracked so hard the asphalt owns your sole.

No, read my response.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 pm I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.
What's wrong with it?
You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.

When I said it, Ted and you both were worrisome and Tutuu was meh (sure, I didn't say "Tutuu is meh", but it's how I felt at the time).

Only AFTER I said it did Xan say something that made me look at Ted. so AFTER I said it, my thoughts on Ted changed.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:44 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:33 pm @tedxtr @DrWilgette @Epignosis @falcon45ca @Xanjori choo choo motherfuckers here comes the pain train vote belzy plz
Xan goes first

Is this based on your original sus of them, or have your thoughts developed in the last 24 hrs or so?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:04 pm
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:45 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 am

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.
How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.
Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.
Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?
You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.
You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?
Seanzie is being reasonable and based here

I'll explain in an hour if needed

Are you drawing any AI conclusions from this, or just pointing it out?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:42 pm Ur all town prob
thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T
Belzy and ted
Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?
I disagree
Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?
Didnt read

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:26 pm guess it's time to type some things out as we are sitting ducks

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:19 pm oh my fucking god i just deleted my thoughts on belzy/seanzie
fuck my life

belzy's intro was weird & i put a lot of stock into how people enter the game. something something chat player stuff. the following posts they had responding to me were also overly defensive of this idea that someone's intro doesnt matter & doesnt have to be good like yeh... it kinda does lol?

but then seanzie's wall to them later on when belzy had just gone 'teehee lets kill seanzie he survives d1 too much' was way over the top for a joke ab last game. and i heavily doubt they can be w/w off of it because who sees their partner say that and pulls up a fuckin list of games they were in together.

i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee
i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

he thinks belzy / sean aren't w/w because of the quoting games thing, which is fine.

but then laying out the possibility of them being v/v because xan / sam happened to be in the last game (when the circumstances are completely different?) is a step that i don't think villas would reach

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:46 pm kinda dont really see the point in doing any of that?

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:01 pm what do you gain from it

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:14 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:56 am
Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:17 am xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please
I am always bleh early game. You don't know what I am doing.
yes I dont know what you're doing thats why I dont like your intro.
these quotes show a pattern of him pushing people based on "not knowing what they are doing", which shows a lack of curiosity and surface level pushes. he's not really assessing "he did this, it's weird, what could be the wolf motivation?", he's rather pushing on things that seem wolfy than actually being wolf motivated.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:23 pm Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

Can you explain how you're interpreting this as AI?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:42 pm Ur all town prob
thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T
Belzy and ted
Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?
I disagree

Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:42 pm Ur all town prob
thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T
Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:25 pm I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

Also this is rich coming from you. No matter what or how Ive posted this game you've simply responded "Xan=scum." If you're town this is a truly counter-productive way to play the game. If you're a wolf its merely a frustrating way to play the game. Whichever it is I think you should seriously reconsider what the word "game" means and how you engage other people in it.

As for the wolf reads on me.

Zenon has always read me wolf, but then Ive been a wolf in both games Ive played with her, so shes never seen me town. She has however offered up no reason for it and is playing in a way that contradicts how she believes the game should be played (based on things shes said before.)

Delta's reads are also in bad faith, especially after having just played a game with me where I did nothing but pocket people as a wolf. Which Ive not even gone near doing this game. Whats more he has literally just questioned the read of the person that absolutely buried me in F3 trying to use that previous game as an example. Anyone that wants to read that game can do so but you'll find there is no resemblance at all to this game.

If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game.

Ted seems to be approaching things in a way that indicates them to be town and Epi also looks townish from what Ive read. (Tied into this I wonder why Seanzie never even considered why w!Xanjori would point out he had missed some posts from Ted that look quite towny.)

I dont think Esooa is a wolf, because I actually dont think she'd be this relaxed and just sitting back while wolfing, but then Ive never seen her wolf its just not an expected play-style. I also dont think she'd gain anything from spewing me town as a wolf as Im generally considered a ML target rather than a NK target.

Thanks for the input. I hope you consider it too before you call people dumb, tell people they have skill issues, etc.

I don't like engaging with you because I feel like you are always either putting up straw-man after straw-man or just straight-up claiming I'm not reading when clearly I am, which does not help to move us to a place of common ground, and makes the engagement go nowhere.

Xan earlier was complaining that people were wolfreading him for being "nice", which easily could be pockety. Only changing it up after he was called out on it.

Do you expect to be lock!town because you gave one reasonable read?

How exactly does wolf!Esooa spew you town here? Because she said "Xan town" with no other explanation in a post with 3 other town reads? Also, it's a pretty common strategy for wolves to protect some townies who are easy miselims - it can pocket them and/or can save an easy miselim for late game.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:38 pm So the actual TLDR:

I pointed out that someone that historically doesnt TR me is doing so. So people that are town should also be able to find me as town.

Implicit in this is that if Esooa is a wolf she has TMI'd me town, which I specifically address when asked to do so.

Seanzie "doesnt believe this" despite asking the question, and is now refusing to engage any more because he has been made to look worse and worse. Unless you actually believe the team is exactly me/Esooa then Seanzies logic does not hold up at all here.

This conclusion does not follow from what you've "Implicitly assumed". I think your claim that you "implicitly assumed" this is BS.

I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

If someone else wants me to answer to something Xan says/asks, I am happy to engage with that 3rd person about it though.

For those of you who don't want a headache, the TLDR between Xan and me just now is that

Xan didn't even consider Esooa could have TMI, and tried to use Esooa's read on Xan to say that Delta has to be bad (or skill issue - which I absolutely hate it when people say this, it comes off as extremely rude IMO). I think this likely says that Xan is Mafia, and if Xan is mafia, I think Delta is not. I think Esooa is likely not mafia with Xan, but I wouldn't bet FX on that part.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:59 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:57 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:45 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.
Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.
Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?
You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.
You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?
You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.
Which question did I not respond to?

I guess it isn't a question, but a point against you, which you are making out to be something completely different.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:45 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:06 am

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway
But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.
How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.
Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.
Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?
You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.
You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:06 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:01 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:49 am Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)
Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?
Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway
But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.
How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.
Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.
Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:06 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:01 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:49 am Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)
Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?
Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway
But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.
How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:06 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:01 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:49 am Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)
Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?
Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:49 am Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:36 pm Yeah, I feel pretty lost right now not gonna lie. Someone tell me what to believe. Give me reads I can sheep.
This is not the Seanzie I saw last outing.

And? Do you have any conclusions to draw, or are you doing that politician thing again?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:40 pm I'm most interested in Seanzie's observation that the wagon on Belzy is bad.

Here's what Seanzie provided:

"Tutuu is... Tutuu."
"Ted actually does look pretty townie"
And I "don't."

That's it. Seanzie doesn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon because I'm on it.

This is not a civilian. This is someone who knows Belzy's alignment and got caught making a blithe observation about it.

I have a hard time thinking that you aren't purposefully reducing key things here.

I also didn't like Ted when I first said it, but only after Xan said something did I re-eval on Ted and change my mind. Also, Tutuu beingTutuu is null/meh, so there was no one I liked on it, and multiple people I was wary of (even though that changed again once I looked into Ted)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 pm I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.
What's wrong with it?
You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.
I just swapped in last night. I'm not sure what impression you're expecting me to make. Sounds to me like you already know Belzy's alignment.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Not the one you are making.

What do you dislike about Epi's impression?

It is hard to put into words in a way that sounds reasonable, which is why I didn't, but I think I've seen him quote other people in place of himself multiple times as scum and I don't know i I've ever seen him do it as town.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 pm I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.
What's wrong with it?
You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.
I just swapped in last night. I'm not sure what impression you're expecting me to make. Sounds to me like you already know Belzy's alignment.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Not the one you are making.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 pm I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.
What's wrong with it?

You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.

I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:33 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:20 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:19 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 pm @Delta why were you down with a Xan + Sean team?
because they're both sat bottom of my reads list?
What do you make out of Sean's vote on Xan?
think it could be an attempt at distancing?
when asking sean for his reads he reiterated that both his townlean on falcon and scumlean on xan were both weak, could be some thing of 'oh i think my partner is scum but if you give me the chance to back out im going to'
Could be.

Isn't, but could be.

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?
No.
No

Yes, no.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?

No.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:22 pm This thread is so full of dumb and I cba

Please be nice.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:45 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:44 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:43 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:41 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:36 pm
Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:40 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:17 am xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please
Screw it. You're just a wolf for this read. Its so bad I dont know how to look at it and find v!delta in there at all.

Gimme 5 minutes to find your partner.
@Delta is this true, are you a wolf?
awooo
no
Pinky promise?
dont think gengars have pinkies they just have like
3 little things
but yeah sure
pinky promise youre not a wolf?
I double pinky promise!

Pinky promises are like crossing your finger - they cancel out in parity. Thus, Belzy is outed.

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:44 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:43 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:41 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:36 pm
Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:40 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:17 am xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please
Screw it. You're just a wolf for this read. Its so bad I dont know how to look at it and find v!delta in there at all.

Gimme 5 minutes to find your partner.
@Delta is this true, are you a wolf?
awooo
no
Pinky promise?
dont think gengars have pinkies they just have like
3 little things
but yeah sure
pinky promise youre not a wolf?

Pretty sure those are 3 pinkies.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:07 pm I finally know whom I am. The fluff stage is over. If anyone thinks my reads on tutuu and Zenon were real, they don't get early stage posting.

What are your reads now?

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:59 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:51 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:49 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:35 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:43 pm alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/
I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.
makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?
When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.
\o/ thank you!
Do you have any thoughts?
i gave my own worldview a few posts back, i can quote it if you like?
particularly after your thoughts & xans rn since both of you are like. my top scumreads lmfao
the issue is i misread both you last game so im kinda wary that im in the same position again

Tell me about me.

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:49 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:35 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:43 pm alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/
I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.
makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?
When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.
\o/ thank you!

Do you have any thoughts?

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:35 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:43 pm alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/
I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.
makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:12 pm Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:43 pm alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:35 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:02 am
Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:07 am I can't believe I'm being voted for being nice, it's like no matter how i post I'll be wolf read for it.

you wanna talk about being wolfread no matter what you post smh

I'll throw you a lifeline here
Give me your top wolfreads & why
Sorry not had time to re-read, but Ill go with people not on my wagon have higher wolf equity than those on my wagon. Because the reason to vote me is so bad that a wolf would be too worried about thread image to go for it.

You seemed very OMGUSy last game. This feels very different.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:51 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:16 am Im so booooooooooooooooreeeeed
P()$3}|\
U callin me a pussy?

Poser:P

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:16 am Im so booooooooooooooooreeeeed

P()$3}|\

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

hirfiauehueiuuwefwuiwn

Nobody?

Xanjori wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:19 pm But for real, Xan is a wolf. Striking difference in tone & paranoia.
You're right. I'm just that polarised!

[VOTE: Xan] aubergine

I'mma go ahead and townlean Falcon.

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