The Syndicate

Good game everyone. Well done town!

Thanks a lot for the game hosts and mods!

[VOTE: cham] aubergine

Why is cham voting cham

I voted Cham for a second the moved back to Ilario because other people moved (ilario is like unvoting

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:51 pm [VOTE: Millium] aubergine for the spice
Ty for doing your part.

Happy to help.

[VOTE: Millium] aubergine for the spice

Something, something. It's almost EoD and I'm here. Something.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:24 am if belzy is somehow town i can see wisp/cham being viable

but if belzy is town why would wolves remove a very possible misyeet from the lynch pool today? (again the only wolves i can see doing that are cham or nook )

The person removed from the poll yeaterday was town and a possible miselim candidate.

hi everyone.

I hope you're all having a wonderful morning (or whatever time of day it may be for you)!

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:21 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:19 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:10 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:56 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:55 am i do kind of understand where seanzie is coming from
How so?
i am having a much harder time finding them than yall are so it does seem a little odd is all
are you especially good at finding seanzie?
No. Can you show me posts that you TR?
his entire iso

he hasnt made a single scummy post, if you want evidence of me using a read like this, i have made a read exactly like this every single one of my last 3 villa games, 2 of which were players i never played with. ive also confidently found sean every time ive towned with him. feel free to think i have tmi if u wolfread me, just trust me that sean isnt ever a wolf though.

Ooooor...

You have TMI.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:10 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:56 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:55 am i do kind of understand where seanzie is coming from
How so?
i am having a much harder time finding them than yall are so it does seem a little odd is all
are you especially good at finding seanzie?

You aren't.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:06 am define highest winrate, does that include you not getting caught and lynched or shot?

@Lilypetal
how would it be wasting a lynch on Porsche

It includes my team winning as town or wolf. Does not take into account dying early (as it should not). I think I've died first tree times as a wolf, and the rest of the time I've either endgamed or died last. (I actually kind of think I have never died in a position that wasn't first or last...? Maybe I'm forgetting a few games). Granted, some of those games were on other sites.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:02 am if TS is town of Salem, than that statement is irrelevant lmao

TS is The Syndicate, aka the site we're currently playing on.

If Ilario is wolf, Ender, Nanook and Mac aren't. Ilario actually believes I'm polarized.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:54 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:52 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:51 am Seanzie is pretty hilarious, his mindset is that he is playing like a wolf, so town-reading him means people have TMI
Alison claimed the dude is just obvious here, so w/e
I think talking about how you are specifically playing different, just raises a bunch of red flags
and somehow turning that into a town lean of Dya still doesn't really make sense to me
Who did the last part?
Seanzie, he is basically doing the reverse of what he just did to you
But between you saying he got outted in 5 posts, and Alison saying he is so obvious
I doubt this dude just learned on how to wolf properly

Alison and I have played probably 20 games together. Illario and I have played like 3. Alison I believe knows me. I have the highest winrate on TS out of everyone who has played 25 games or more on TS, and my wolf winrate is higher than my town winrate. You can verify these facts yourself if you don't believe me.

Alison might have strong towntells on me due to huge amounts of experience. Illario is full of shit.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:51 am Seanzie is pretty hilarious, his mindset is that he is playing like a wolf, so town-reading him means people have TMI
Alison claimed the dude is just obvious here, so w/e
I think talking about how you are specifically playing different, just raises a bunch of red flags
and somehow turning that into a town lean of Dya still doesn't really make sense to me

I have no problem with people townreading me, if they actually have reason to. Illario doesn't have reason to.

If you're interested in my alignment, I think you should look more carefully about when I was playing differently. Dya and I have only played a handful of games together and not one since early 2020 iirc. I AM playing significantly differently because I used to have significantly more time for mafia than I do currently.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:49 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:48 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:44 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am People having a disproportionate perception of their wolfrange relative to their town range is very often a town tell

And your tone is towny

And your little post about thinking the game is gonna fall into your hands to save etc

Feels towny to me
Issue is though you've been lock!town reading me far before anything you've mentioned here occured.
Yeah some of those reasons are decent developments, other than tone and demeanor and the alison point which was almost immediate since d1. Anyways you don’t have to trust me I’m not really interested in trying to gain your trust, im just simply stating to others it’s a waste of time thinking ur a wolf. Though if u really wanna be the game hero, tinfoiling me probs isn’t a good use of ur time but I’ll let you do you
You don't have a good reason to townread me. You're just trying to capitalize on dead townie's reads for cover for your own TMI.
LOL. If that’s what it takes to cover your bruised ego lol

I mean, if you wanted to out, there are easier ways than this, but I'll take it.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:47 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:45 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:43 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:41 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:39 am

Is this your natural response to anyone who thinks ur polarised lol
You've never seen me wolf.
i have and even if i didnt players of your archetype are super easy to read
What wolf game have you seen of mine?
The one where u got outed in 5 posts
Quote it please. Give me the specific name of this wolf game that you've "ride-or-die" on me based off of.
The smiley one. We been over this already.

We have, and what conclusion did we come to before?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:44 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am People having a disproportionate perception of their wolfrange relative to their town range is very often a town tell

And your tone is towny

And your little post about thinking the game is gonna fall into your hands to save etc

Feels towny to me
Issue is though you've been lock!town reading me far before anything you've mentioned here occured.
Yeah some of those reasons are decent developments, other than tone and demeanor and the alison point which was almost immediate since d1. Anyways you don’t have to trust me I’m not really interested in trying to gain your trust, im just simply stating to others it’s a waste of time thinking ur a wolf. Though if u really wanna be the game hero, tinfoiling me probs isn’t a good use of ur time but I’ll let you do you

You don't have a good reason to townread me. You're just trying to capitalize on dead townie's reads for cover for your own TMI.

[VOTE: Ilario] aubergine

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:43 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:41 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:38 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:21 am sean and ender might be my ride or die towns, neon probs up there too

also there might be some hell rand world where lily isnt clear but that would involve some ballsy play from her and its only in a world where rondo is a wolf too and i blocked the wolf kp and then lily claimed to be shot to make it look like there was still kp

tbh ive barely read any of lilys posts so i dont have much of a read on her but just felt obligated to out that
I kinda think you might be wolf.
Is this your natural response to anyone who thinks ur polarised lol
You've never seen me wolf.
i have and even if i didnt players of your archetype are super easy to read
What wolf game have you seen of mine?
The one where u got outed in 5 posts

Quote it please. Give me the specific name of this wolf game that you've "ride-or-die" on me based off of.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am People having a disproportionate perception of their wolfrange relative to their town range is very often a town tell

And your tone is towny

And your little post about thinking the game is gonna fall into your hands to save etc

Feels towny to me

Issue is though you've been lock!town reading me far before anything you've mentioned here occured.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:42 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:41 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:38 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:21 am sean and ender might be my ride or die towns, neon probs up there too

also there might be some hell rand world where lily isnt clear but that would involve some ballsy play from her and its only in a world where rondo is a wolf too and i blocked the wolf kp and then lily claimed to be shot to make it look like there was still kp

tbh ive barely read any of lilys posts so i dont have much of a read on her but just felt obligated to out that
I kinda think you might be wolf.
Is this your natural response to anyone who thinks ur polarised lol
You've never seen me wolf.
i have and even if i didnt players of your archetype are super easy to read

What wolf game have you seen of mine?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:38 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:21 am sean and ender might be my ride or die towns, neon probs up there too

also there might be some hell rand world where lily isnt clear but that would involve some ballsy play from her and its only in a world where rondo is a wolf too and i blocked the wolf kp and then lily claimed to be shot to make it look like there was still kp

tbh ive barely read any of lilys posts so i dont have much of a read on her but just felt obligated to out that
I kinda think you might be wolf.
Is this your natural response to anyone who thinks ur polarised lol

You've never seen me wolf.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:21 am sean and ender might be my ride or die towns, neon probs up there too

also there might be some hell rand world where lily isnt clear but that would involve some ballsy play from her and its only in a world where rondo is a wolf too and i blocked the wolf kp and then lily claimed to be shot to make it look like there was still kp

tbh ive barely read any of lilys posts so i dont have much of a read on her but just felt obligated to out that

I kinda think you might be wolf.

[VOTE: Santygrass] aubergine

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:11 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:09 pm I have no idea what Mac is doing anymore, but as long as Betzy exists I don't even care

Wiggins role is basically confirmed
So that just leave Dya, Sean, and Nanook
What leaves Dya, Seanzie and Nanook?
Claims, I'm taking ur day 5 joat as a meme

I already claimed.

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:09 pm I have no idea what Mac is doing anymore, but as long as Betzy exists I don't even care

Wiggins role is basically confirmed
So that just leave Dya, Sean, and Nanook

What leaves Dya, Seanzie and Nanook?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:41 pm Also yes may as well claim it. I'm the Quirk Forcer.

I thought I'd be funny and try and force my top scumread to do something that makes them sound mildly more like the person who was voted out the previous day.

Why were you against a full claim earlier but then now decided to claim?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:39 pm*Backflip*

Thanks. 'preciate you buddy.

Somebody do a backflip.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Mac stopped playing with me so I'm kinda bored now.

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:04 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:04 pm Lmao playing differently than in games they've seen is such a wolfy statement but w/e
Not when it is true and they've only seen me town.
So u are playing differently as town, is still what you are claiming

I am definitely playing differently than the games Dya has seen in the past, yes.

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:05 pm Why the he'll won't u guys lynch Rondo, do u think illario is lying, which can't be a thing cause Neon confirmed it.

What did Illario say that could be a lie?

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:04 pm Lmao playing differently than in games they've seen is such a wolfy statement but w/e

Not when it is true and they've only seen me town.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:40 pm Well actually. Explain your read on dya?
I'm assuming you're talking to me?

Dya and I got pushed into what I thought was a false difference check, which made me re-eval Dya's push on me (I often blanket OMGUS people who push me to see how they react and only form a real opinion on them after they react). Their reasons for suspecting me I think were actually well-grounded in what they knew about me as a player. I am playing differently in this game than in the games they've seen, so I think their thoughts were reasonable, and I kinda felt like they were town after I re-evaled.
Well actually I see.

So you think that they as a wolf couldnt see somewhat of a difference and make a push based on that? Like, you think the logic from it was nuanced would be my question. I have to reread it still so idk .

I think you are giving much credit to the diff cheack weirding you out, when by gamestate I think its highly likely that it was a correct read just because of how PoE was and stuff

Sure it's possible, but that's not how it felt.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:50 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm can someone copy this poll into the thread plz I can't do it on phone easily

fixed
thanks

My name is Dr. Seanzie and I am definitely a doctor.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm can someone copy this poll into the thread plz I can't do it on phone easily

fixed

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:45 pm can someone copy this poll into the thread plz I can't do it on phone easily

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:40 pm Well actually. Explain your read on dya?

I'm assuming you're talking to me?

Dya and I got pushed into what I thought was a false difference check, which made me re-eval Dya's push on me (I often blanket OMGUS people who push me to see how they react and only form a real opinion on them after they react). Their reasons for suspecting me I think were actually well-grounded in what they knew about me as a player. I am playing differently in this game than in the games they've seen, so I think their thoughts were reasonable, and I kinda felt like they were town after I re-evaled.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:25 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:14 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:59 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:36 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:16 pm This game came at the wrong time for me. I want to help solving but once i go MIA, i am an easy mislim (mislynch is that, right?) But i can never fully catch up
With your role, do you die if you target mafia and only mafia, or do you die if you target any non-town?
I have to target town.
upsetting.
Why is that? You are very specific with 3p reading Mac. Is that cuz you are mafia? You as town always go strongly after me, why did you say to shield me d2?
Because I want to be able to chop Mac.

No.

Because I thought you were town.
I claim green check on Mac, so in what universe would town wanna chop Mac and shield me?

I wasn't shielding you after Mac outed the check. I was your biggest critic after that. I was shielding you D1 and before that was outed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:35 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:33 pm @Seanzie of the players who have not claimed at all who is most suspicious to you?
If you give me a list of who has not claimed, I'll be happy to look.
cham
Nook
dya
ender

I think

Dya is probably fine.

I don't remember anything from Nook or Cham for like 3 days.

Ender I agreed with their stance on the claim thing, but I am kind of softening on the idea that it might be good. I didn't realize so many people had claimed, but since they have, it does kinda change my perspective a bit. If I decide it would be good, then this I suppose would be a bad look for Ender rather than a good one.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:33 pm @Seanzie of the players who have not claimed at all who is most suspicious to you?

If you give me a list of who has not claimed, I'll be happy to look.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:32 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:31 pm
@MacDougall I'm a polarized noob. Come find me already.
claim
Day 5+ multitasking joat.
lol... ok

It's a pretty cool role.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:32 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:31 pm @MacDougall I'm a polarized noob. Come find me already.
claim

Day 5+ multitasking joat.

@MacDougall I'm a polarized noob. Come find me already.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:29 pm Well actually

Towncore: Nanook
Prob Town: Seanzie, Mac, Ender, Lily , Neon

Where do we go from there? Is there any obvtown that I am missing?

Lily is towncore, not prob town. Why is Nook there?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:20 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:13 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:12 pm Well actually Mac. Wisp has 4 gifts in total (one with each role) . So its like a 4 shot usage. And they can target 2 each night. But they have already used 3 gifts so 1 more and they are done tbh. Its not so op ?
Did he modify his claim or was that how it was always claimed?
Well actually he never modified the claim iirc.

I think it was like more of a clarifying stuff?,
The claimed gifter D1 iirc, and D2 they gave more details about the limit and stuff but i dont remember well
Are you sure about that? Cuz until right now I got the impression his role was 2 shot each night and gift randomised from the 4.

I'm not even aware he ever clarified the role to the degree you said much less in which order.
I was under the same impression and Santy.
ok just a me thing then

Or Santy, me and Millium are the team and we accidentally just goofed.

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