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This is a good question. I don't remember Fingers really doing anything today, but I also didn't get the feeling that Fingers is convinced I am flipping red.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:02 pmWho's the last wolf for you if Sean flips green?fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:54 pm @EnderWiggin feel free to vote/hammer if you want when done.
No I didn't? I never said anything like that. All I said is that right before the wagon formed you weren't voting Rondo and you hadn't expressed any intent of moving specifically there, and IMO that makes you more likely to be a wolf than town.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:34 pmI pushed rondo the entirety of day 2, you acted like I didn't. That's lying especially since we talked about it yesterday, and you still lied about it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:33 pmI didn't lie about anything, and I'm not outed (aren't you saying I'm town here?). Fingers brought up something that wasn't at the time I was thinking about, which was immediately prior to Rondo's hammer. Yes, you gave a list of 4 names you might go to 15 minutes before Rondo got hammered, but you weren't one of the people in the thread a minute or two before scum's coordinated attack saying that they would go for Rondo.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:29 pmYou're probably town which is the worst part of all of this. You haven't read a majority of the game and you're telling people to lynch me. We would lose, so if you aren't actually going to read the game or reconsider your reads after being outted for lying about why you scum read me just leave the thread.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:27 pmI agree, there is little movement the thread is going to do until I am flipped, so hammering sooner rather than later might actually be good for keeping up morale among whomever ends up in F3. All I ask is that you all reconsider Kami tomorrow.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:14 pm I don't think we need this RD to go past 24 hrs. Unless there's some new revelation, I say we hammer Sean by tomorrow morning
I didn't lie, and you trying to paint it that way is telling. At best I might be misinformed, but you're already trying to discredit me (you're pushing me as "lying" and "outed" but also saying I'm town to cover your ass).
I gave my case. Others can, and should take it into account tomorrow and weigh it however they see fit with the other evidence out there.
I didn't lie about anything, and I'm not outed (aren't you saying I'm town here?). Fingers brought up something that wasn't at the time I was thinking about, which was immediately prior to Rondo's hammer. Yes, you gave a list of 4 names you might go to 15 minutes before Rondo got hammered, but you weren't one of the people in the thread a minute or two before scum's coordinated attack saying that they would go for Rondo.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:29 pmYou're probably town which is the worst part of all of this. You haven't read a majority of the game and you're telling people to lynch me. We would lose, so if you aren't actually going to read the game or reconsider your reads after being outted for lying about why you scum read me just leave the thread.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:27 pmI agree, there is little movement the thread is going to do until I am flipped, so hammering sooner rather than later might actually be good for keeping up morale among whomever ends up in F3. All I ask is that you all reconsider Kami tomorrow.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:14 pm I don't think we need this RD to go past 24 hrs. Unless there's some new revelation, I say we hammer Sean by tomorrow morning
I agree, there is little movement the thread is going to do until I am flipped, so hammering sooner rather than later might actually be good for keeping up morale among whomever ends up in F3. All I ask is that you all reconsider Kami tomorrow.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:14 pm I don't think we need this RD to go past 24 hrs. Unless there's some new revelation, I say we hammer Sean by tomorrow morning
In the case where you vote me, I still recommend treating me like IC (for all intents and purposes aside from the voting thing)Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:52 pmI recommend either voting me or treating me like IC.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:50 pmYeah I know why he claimed. Cuz he was trying to save you @SeanzieTranscend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:17 pm Kk I'm Catwoman 2s Novice Cop
N2 Sean is inno
N3 finger is inno
D2 there seemed to be lots of doubt wrt Sean and I wanted to solve his slot in that if he's town he's not an easy misexe for scum
There's several crumbs in my iso but
This one is the biggest one.Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:52 amu r in no place to rly be making all these weird theories about someone who's going to be seeing death some time soon. the way you've poked and prodded at the thread really doesn't feel like someone that has an agenda, i feel like u r really trying to figure things out. u had a townie d1 in terms of ur interactions w/ esooa (ur gut read on her) how u thoroughly explained it and didn't just use ur "gut" to justify that read. u also had towny interactions with epi that day as well. u did disappear but like u didn't rly make any scummy posts and from that i just see u as town.
I checked finger n3 because she's having a baby and if she's town I just want her to relax and if she's scum then she can leave the game and worry about other things
So yea
See, you've been in the POE for a couple days, and if you recall were a near lynch not long ago. Syn was ready to die from poisoning, and I was close to being mislynched.
With 2 wolves left, Syn and I close to death, the town would've been in LYLO. Syn had just recently cast doubt upon Tran, what was he to do?
Why the only thing he thought he could that would also help set up his teammate as town, he made a claim that also looked to clear his teammate, you.
It's almost like he had no partner in wolf chat to talk to. You'd been MIA at the time as well
I recommend either voting me or treating me like IC.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:50 pmYeah I know why he claimed. Cuz he was trying to save you @SeanzieTranscend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:17 pm Kk I'm Catwoman 2s Novice Cop
N2 Sean is inno
N3 finger is inno
D2 there seemed to be lots of doubt wrt Sean and I wanted to solve his slot in that if he's town he's not an easy misexe for scum
There's several crumbs in my iso but
This one is the biggest one.Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:52 amu r in no place to rly be making all these weird theories about someone who's going to be seeing death some time soon. the way you've poked and prodded at the thread really doesn't feel like someone that has an agenda, i feel like u r really trying to figure things out. u had a townie d1 in terms of ur interactions w/ esooa (ur gut read on her) how u thoroughly explained it and didn't just use ur "gut" to justify that read. u also had towny interactions with epi that day as well. u did disappear but like u didn't rly make any scummy posts and from that i just see u as town.
I checked finger n3 because she's having a baby and if she's town I just want her to relax and if she's scum then she can leave the game and worry about other things
So yea
See, you've been in the POE for a couple days, and if you recall were a near lynch not long ago. Syn was ready to die from poisoning, and I was close to being mislynched.
With 2 wolves left, Syn and I close to death, the town would've been in LYLO. Syn had just recently cast doubt upon Tran, what was he to do?
Why the only thing he thought he could that would also help set up his teammate as town, he made a claim that also looked to clear his teammate, you.
It's almost like he had no partner in wolf chat to talk to. You'd been MIA at the time as well
Yes, the day end was weird. I had a big post about Kami written and it got lost since the thread was closed by the time I hit send.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:34 pm I actually did try to tell you but the thread was locked before I was able to because of the abrupt day ending.
Any guesses on why he claimed when he did?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:31 pmHe made a mech-impossible claim.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:26 pmSorry, don't mean to be passive-aggressive, just stating facts. I asked. I still haven't read back. No one has told me. I still don't know.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:25 pmHaha, I like how you passive aggressively frame this as if it's our fault that you won't read back,Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:13 pmI wasn't. I was asking why/how they outed. I still haven't read back and no one has told me so I still don't know.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:12 pm @Seanzie why were you trying to prevent Tran's lynch yesterday?
Like now its 6-8 pages ago
Syn and Epi called him out.
Sorry, don't mean to be passive-aggressive, just stating facts. I asked. I still haven't read back. No one has told me. I still don't know.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:25 pmHaha, I like how you passive aggressively frame this as if it's our fault that you won't read back,Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:13 pmI wasn't. I was asking why/how they outed. I still haven't read back and no one has told me so I still don't know.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:12 pm @Seanzie why were you trying to prevent Tran's lynch yesterday?
Like now its 6-8 pages ago
According to this logic, Rondo was not a viable wagon since a minute before he got hammered, there was only one person voting him... and yet... Rondo got hammered.
So when did Syn take the screenshot? I know when I screenshot a hammer, it is the very first thing I do, BEFORE I post about it.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:15 pmI know it was 2 minutes because Syn had the time to post "rondo tried to hammer himself", then she posted a screenshot and alison isn't on the screenshotSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:12 pmI don't think it was 2 minutes, it felt a lot quicker than that. I saw there were 6 votes, posted, then there were 7 before I was done posting, so it was super quick, and can easily be explained by Alison reading wolf chat or just being behind the thread for a minute, or 100 other things. You trying to push that Alison MUST have known the hammer happened is bad. You SHOULDN'T know this one way or the other... unless you're a wolf.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:10 pmAlison voted 2 minutes after the hammer happened, even the screenshot by syn doesn't show her name on itSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:08 pmIf you thought I was a wolf, you would think there was coordination since all 3 wolves would have ended up on that wagon.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:06 pmDude EOD2 was a mess, there was no type of coordination what so ever everyone was moving aroundSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:05 pmDoesn't really clear them though, They gave a big list of people they would vote, no actual intention to move to Rondo, and honestly the fact that I was responding to them makes me feel worse, not better, since they would have been hyper aware of my intent to vote Rondo.
focus on something else, like you are telling us to
You are TMIing me.
She 100% knew rondo was already hammered and just voted to spew something, idk the intention but she had no involvement on rondo dying.
I wasn't. I was asking why/how they outed. I still haven't read back and no one has told me so I still don't know.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:12 pm @Seanzie why were you trying to prevent Tran's lynch yesterday?
I don't think it was 2 minutes, it felt a lot quicker than that. I saw there were 6 votes, posted, then there were 7 before I was done posting, so it was super quick, and can easily be explained by Alison reading wolf chat or just being behind the thread for a minute, or 100 other things. You trying to push that Alison MUST have known the hammer happened is bad. You SHOULDN'T know this one way or the other... unless you're a wolf.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:10 pmAlison voted 2 minutes after the hammer happened, even the screenshot by syn doesn't show her name on itSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:08 pmIf you thought I was a wolf, you would think there was coordination since all 3 wolves would have ended up on that wagon.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:06 pmDude EOD2 was a mess, there was no type of coordination what so ever everyone was moving aroundSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:05 pmDoesn't really clear them though, They gave a big list of people they would vote, no actual intention to move to Rondo, and honestly the fact that I was responding to them makes me feel worse, not better, since they would have been hyper aware of my intent to vote Rondo.
focus on something else, like you are telling us to
You are TMIing me.
She 100% knew rondo was already hammered and just voted to spew something, idk the intention but she had no involvement on rondo dying.
Sure... but we are killing me today, so you can pretend like I am IC.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:08 pmThat should say moved. Although loved is fun toofingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:06 pm But that makes you also aware of their intent to vote Rondo. And you loved around a lot and talked about voting others like me too
If you thought I was a wolf, you would think there was coordination since all 3 wolves would have ended up on that wagon.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:06 pmDude EOD2 was a mess, there was no type of coordination what so ever everyone was moving aroundSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:05 pmDoesn't really clear them though, They gave a big list of people they would vote, no actual intention to move to Rondo, and honestly the fact that I was responding to them makes me feel worse, not better, since they would have been hyper aware of my intent to vote Rondo.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:03 pmI thought I was responding to Syn? Oh well, I haven't really been looking back.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:02 pm Your intent to vote rondo is literally quoting Kami and saying you’d also vote rondo
Yes, that makes Kami look marginally better.
focus on something else, like you are telling us to
@fingersplints this is what I was thinking about. This was two minutes before Rondo got hammered. The quotes you're quoting are like 15 minutes before.
Doesn't really clear them though, They gave a big list of people they would vote, no actual intention to move to Rondo, and honestly the fact that I was responding to them makes me feel worse, not better, since they would have been hyper aware of my intent to vote Rondo.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:03 pmI thought I was responding to Syn? Oh well, I haven't really been looking back.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:02 pm Your intent to vote rondo is literally quoting Kami and saying you’d also vote rondo
Yes, that makes Kami look marginally better.
I thought I was responding to Syn? Oh well, I haven't really been looking back.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:02 pm Your intent to vote rondo is literally quoting Kami and saying you’d also vote rondo
I know, but I also have TMI on myself, and have done nothing since other than push this theory that wolves coordinated the Rondo wagon, even though if I was a wolf, that would literally out the whole wolf team. Kami has over everyone else tried to push back against that theory, even as more and more evidence (doggo's flip, Syn- one of the early townfolk saying they would move there -'s flip)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:56 pmYou're guilty of 2/3 of these points BTW.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:53 pmEoD2 was clearly a scum-coordinated wagon, Rondo went from 1 vote to 7 votes extremely quickly after a few people announced they would vote there. Transcend and Alison were both part of that push. Alison was possibly going to be killed, so this gives them clear motivation.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:48 pmTell me the theory.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:47 pmBecause I haven't read enough of the game to give a reasonable opinion, the one opinion I have no one is really considering, any time I talk about it, people just shove "No, you're a wolf!" back down my throat, and so I'm tired of trying.
I'm dying today. If I'm a wolf, you win regardless of what happens today. If I'm not, you have to play tomorrow. So focus on tomorrow.
I'm not reading back, because and I don't want to explain.
Based on everything that happened that EoD, I think Kami looks the worst. Kami was the only one whom did all three of the following:
1.) didn't announce their intent to vote Rondo (scum must have seen at least a few town were thinking about moving to Rondo - I know me and Syn did) before doing it,
2.) was a potential wagon (this gives scum further motive to do something bold like a coordinated hammer), and
3.) voted Rondo at the same time as like 4 others.
Your case against Kami is the EOD2 hammer of Rondo?Is there anything else?
You've really hid behind Esooa a lot this game. Do you have any original thoughts?Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:52 pmEsooa literally calling him inno child bruh LOLfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:51 pmHe was not, people just didn't listen to my suspicions of him until Syn joined inKami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:50 pmPretty sure trans was just trying to pocket me since day 1 and I called him out on it, but he was universally townread so my vote was pointlessfingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:48 pmTran was also heavily defending Kami EoD2. Was it because he knew she’d flip green or teammate defence
How did her claim put you in "hammer range"? You had 3 or 4 votes on you? You were a wagon, but without coordination, you were unlikely to be hammered.
EoD2 was clearly a scum-coordinated wagon, Rondo went from 1 vote to 7 votes extremely quickly after a few people announced they would vote there. Transcend and Alison were both part of that push. Alison was possibly going to be killed, so this gives them clear motivation.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:48 pmTell me the theory.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:47 pmBecause I haven't read enough of the game to give a reasonable opinion, the one opinion I have no one is really considering, any time I talk about it, people just shove "No, you're a wolf!" back down my throat, and so I'm tired of trying.
I'm dying today. If I'm a wolf, you win regardless of what happens today. If I'm not, you have to play tomorrow. So focus on tomorrow.
I'm not reading back, because and I don't want to explain.
Because I haven't read enough of the game to give a reasonable opinion, the one opinion I have no one is really considering, any time I talk about it, people just shove "No, you're a wolf!" back down my throat, and so I'm tired of trying.
I'm dying today. Move on. Focus on tomorrow.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:45 pmReally? That's interesting. We should ISO Tran and word search Seanzie
It isn't "on me". I'm going to die today.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:10 pm It’s kind of on you to try and convince people otherwise. We have all literally given you a chance to at least try and you have basically just been like “oh I don’t feel like it”
I think kami is a reasonable suspect because I think EoD2 was a save of both Kami and Alison. I was pretty clearly talking about this right before day ended (abruptly) yesterday.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:12 pm When is the last time you even mentioned a suspicion? Who do you think is the last wolf then?
whatever, bye
I'm clearly dying today so you're wasting your breath.Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:08 pmI think it was an attempt to pretend not to know trans is a wolf and whyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:07 pmWhy were you so unhelpful yesterday?
I read back, and your behaviour was not towny solve at all. You were asked to read back, a whopping 3 or pages perhaps, to why Tran was outted. As town, I find it very hard to understand why you were so obstinate
1. I didn't know it was 3 pages, 2. because. I don't feel like explaining.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:07 pmWhy were you so unhelpful yesterday?
I read back, and your behaviour was not towny solve at all. You were asked to read back, a whopping 3 or pages perhaps, to why Tran was outted. As town, I find it very hard to understand why you were so obstinate
Why did you cop me N1?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:47 pm Track, rolecop, poison.
N1 vanillacop Seanzie - nilla
N2 track Kami, bad night to track tbh no result
N3 poison Syn
Rondo was on his own wagon, but about 4 votes (yours included) showed up all at the same time. Alison's vote moved over pretty much right after as well, so Alison clearly didn't intend to leave her vote on you at EoD.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:44 pmThen you must not of seen the wagons EODSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:41 pmThe last minute wagon was clearly coordinated by scum. I think you were someone who was both on the wagon and someone who was a potential target if scum didn't coordinate at the last minute.
Rondo hammered himself, Alison was voting me.
The last minute wagon was clearly coordinated by scum. I think you were someone who was both on the wagon and someone who was a potential target if scum didn't coordinate at the last minute.
I did like two days ago. You looked the worst based on EoD2 or whenever that was. Idr why you were taken out of consideration.
Yeah, well, sometimes that's all one can muster.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:04 pmYou are willing to put in no work.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:03 pmIt isn't game-throwing, I'm just not willing to put the work in that you want me to put in.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:02 pmIf you're a villager, that is game-throwing. If you're a wolf, that is conceding.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:01 pmYou definitely were rude though.
I'm not "purposefully being clueless", I'm just not going to read back.
It isn't game-throwing, I'm just not willing to put the work in that you want me to put in.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:02 pmIf you're a villager, that is game-throwing. If you're a wolf, that is conceding.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:01 pmYou definitely were rude though.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:00 pmI'm not being rude i'm literally just telling you to stop purposefully being cluelessSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:59 pmI'm not willing to read back.
If you don't want to work with me, fine. All I ask is that in that case, you stop being rude.
I'm not "purposefully being clueless", I'm just not going to read back.
You definitely were rude though.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:00 pmI'm not being rude i'm literally just telling you to stop purposefully being cluelessSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:59 pmI'm not willing to read back.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:58 pmBut you're not working with anyone? You had time to backtrack but instead ur trying to look clueless
If you don't want to work with me, fine. All I ask is that in that case, you stop being rude.
I'm not willing to read back.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:58 pmBut you're not working with anyone? You had time to backtrack but instead ur trying to look clueless
Yes, but if you can't understand how context matters, idk what to tell you. Either work with me or please stop being rude.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:51 pmI copy and pasted what you said thoughSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:51 pmYou're rude.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:48 pmThis isn't helpful.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:47 pmAnd yet I haven't left this page.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:44 pmYou've had 43 minutes since you first posted to go and see?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:43 pmWhy/how did Transcend out himself?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:42 pm Transcend outed himself, and most are in conclusion you are most likely to be the last remaining wolf. I’d recommend catching up on the thread if at all possible, so you can respond to some of the things said about you.
You're rude.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:48 pmThis isn't helpful.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:47 pmAnd yet I haven't left this page.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:44 pmYou've had 43 minutes since you first posted to go and see?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:43 pmWhy/how did Transcend out himself?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:42 pm Transcend outed himself, and most are in conclusion you are most likely to be the last remaining wolf. I’d recommend catching up on the thread if at all possible, so you can respond to some of the things said about you.
And yet I haven't left this page.Kami wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:44 pmYou've had 43 minutes since you first posted to go and see?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:43 pmWhy/how did Transcend out himself?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:42 pm Transcend outed himself, and most are in conclusion you are most likely to be the last remaining wolf. I’d recommend catching up on the thread if at all possible, so you can respond to some of the things said about you.
Why/how did Transcend out himself?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:42 pm Transcend outed himself, and most are in conclusion you are most likely to be the last remaining wolf. I’d recommend catching up on the thread if at all possible, so you can respond to some of the things said about you.
