The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:51 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Wilgy and Sean are Maf.

I'm sure you've seen me do vote shenanigans lile that regardless of my alignment.

Lily was the one to break the tie.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:28 pm Ris spends alot of time D1 mulling over Porscha.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:28 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:45 pm anyway porscha is already obv town lol i did it porscha i found u !!!
....maybe

i think i kinda agree

at least

i think porscha's later posts have been better

my judgement on an opener doesnt rly matter in the long run anyways
Ultimately ends with a TR on Porscha/Neon
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:26 am porscha and neon are my temp town rn

neon bc of vibecheck - they're the one who feels the most comfortable in thread at all times imo

porscha partly bc of vibecheck, ig

i rmb there were a few posts i thought looked like v!porscha

granted i haven't actually played with w!porscha, but yea
And a slight green on Falc
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:28 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:34 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:05 am
srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:50 pm Anyone want to snowball thoughts/ideas?
Always
Same...but what are screens thoughts?

They've got a "feels" vote on Sean, and also tossed in risiing as a teammate...then some stuff about how Maf want Town second guessing themselves...OK.

And then a comment on Lily not being worth a vote for...well, who knows cuz' screen doesn't say
i think it was this one tbh, looking at their iso now it's not as good as i thought it was fsr, but this commentary + sass was nice to see
And Sean,
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:39 am my seanzie snapread is town bc mindmeld and bc how he's solving

gud huge post -> gud 180

not banking on it though
I would like to point out that the reads all feel really waffley.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:58 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:50 am level 1 world is something like screen snow

but i kinda think they're just confusing villagers
can u like... elaborate on this more? i kinda feel like i havent seen a lot of concrete reads from u
First and only real interaction with Lily. (also Ris hasn't interacted with me either, suppose I wasn't around much d2, so maybe this means nothing re Lily.)

Contributed to screenplay wagon

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:44 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:59 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:57 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:26 pm i think i also did park my vote on srceen b4 i left and iirc it was a competing wagon? but eod was so inactive i dont know what that says
I like voting screen, but I wouldn't say they were a strong wagon...I don't belive there was ever more than 2 votes on their slot IIRC
i mean... were there any competing wagons then
At EOD? Yes there were

Interesting to note that you claim that screen was a competing wagon, and then question if there were any competing wagons

[VOTE: risiin] aubergine
hm? wdym?

i say that i thought that srceen was a competing wagon iirc, you say there were never more than 2 votes on them (which really is not enough)

and then i question if there were any at all in that case
Last thing of interest was Falcon voting for some contrary statements.

~~~

There's not much from the ISO, but I think that furthers the idea that Ris wouldn't kill Neon here. I think Ris's iso is decently weak in the sense that there isn't much hunting being done. Not much to invalidate the Falcon/Ris theory I spoke about previously, but also it really doesn't make sense for it to be Ris under these conditions. Perhaps this is also supported by the Porscha interactions D1, but maybe I'm making too much of it.

Sean, what do you think? You seem to be vested in the Ris SR.

Easy enough then. I'm going to trust my Falcon townread, so I'm sure you can figure out where my head is at in a town!rising world.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:16 pm votes arent locked right?

They are not.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:00 pm I am not at all happy with Neon's FPS and would like to return to Rising.
When does W! Ris NK Neon?

I just thought of that, and am mulling it over as we speak.

I am willing to entertain the idea that wolves killed Neon because they believed they were a cop (which implies rising town), but... not going to bet on it right meow.

[VOTE: Rising] aubergine

I am not at all happy with Neon's FPS and would like to return to Rising.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:13 pm sean is probably the clearest wolf from eod lol

I see why you think that, but no. Injecting tension into the thread is something I do as town all the time (and fake as a wolf, so it is NAI). Me being wolf via EoD only makes sense if I am wolf exactly with Wilgy, so Wilgy is always more likely wolf.

flip flip flipadelhia!

I was gonna go back to Wilgy but Lily moved so now I feel stuck

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm Sean why did you flip to screen?

To see what would happen.

Eh, I was going to move back to Wilgy but I guess this is okay.

Whose all here? Anyone lurking please check in.

[VOTE: screenplay] aubergine

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I don't like this.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:36 pm That is my case. I have soft mech clear and your ignoring a pr for ??? Reasons

What does "soft mech clear" mean? Soft makes it sound like you don't have a clear?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:36 pm That is my case. I have soft mech clear and your ignoring a pr for ??? Reasons

Because you literally didn't say that until just now.

What is your role and all targets plz.

@Neon if you have a case to make regarding Rising, I recommend you make it now.

I'll vote Wilgy if Rising doesn't become a more viable wagon by EoD.

@falcon45ca I don't think Screen is the play here. Plz reconsider where you're voting.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:52 pm The. That leaves neon and risiing or neon and wiggly

I'm also pretty wary of the pair Neon/Rising right now.

Why not Neon/Wilgy?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:39 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:23 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:07 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:34 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:24 pm Thanks olive garden internet lol
Why are you TR Sean?
Solving. Trying to coalesce town and get action. Pushing for info and content without agenda.
I would agree they haven’t done that. They haven’t just been pushing attention away from themselves.
... how would you argue that in any world?
Because it’s self preservation that’s different that trying to help Town.

If all I cared about was self preservation, I wouldn't be pushing Neon for pushing you, aince I could easily just bandwagon you.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:24 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:14 pm [VOTE: risinq] aubergine
How the hell have you people not put 2 and 2 together on Riis and why I've repeatedly said this is a bad choice and I will exclusively not entertain an exe there.

I've asked you for your read there and you ignored me. Sorry, not sorry.

Pretending like people are dumb for not seeing something while refusing to give an explanation helps no one.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:11 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:10 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:44 pm It's objectively always net beneficial to flip the CW especially when they are kinda scummy
Neon, if you're town then you are very blatantly playing into a wolf agenda. flipping a villager here specifically for being the day 1 CW is not a good play. I do not see why screen kills porscha either. The much more likely scenario is that the wolves are in falcon/wilgy/sean and they have been powerwolfing this entire game

speaking of [VOTE: sean] aubergine
I strongly disagree
Aside from the fact that Screenplay is the d1 CW, what is your read on the slot, and why?
I have town reads on Lily you and Riisinq

My poe is self evident and Screen provides valuable data on wagon movement d1 if they flip wolf as I suspect they will

Expand on your townreads of me and Rising please. Why are we town?

*crickets*

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:12 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:08 am Neon is 2nd top poster but I can't name a single take they've made.

I perused their ISO and every "read" I can see is "wagonomics" which makes little sense to me.

@Neon do you have any social reads? I'd like to see how you're currently sorting the game, because "wagonmics" is too easy for scum to hide behind.
I think it's pretty obvious I've said some things that town should probably pay attention to

You didn't answer my question though. Do you have any social reads (i.e. reads on people's posts/content)?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:10 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:44 pm It's objectively always net beneficial to flip the CW especially when they are kinda scummy
Neon, if you're town then you are very blatantly playing into a wolf agenda. flipping a villager here specifically for being the day 1 CW is not a good play. I do not see why screen kills porscha either. The much more likely scenario is that the wolves are in falcon/wilgy/sean and they have been powerwolfing this entire game

speaking of [VOTE: sean] aubergine
I strongly disagree

Aside from the fact that Screenplay is the d1 CW, what is your read on the slot, and why?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:54 pm Ok. I probably won’t make it back home by then.

We will do it mobile then. Can’t iso though.

@seanzie you saying you want a case on you sounds like someone mad they got caught but don’t know why.
From what I remember from your posts you don’t cases either. You are just throwing out your “feelings” on people. That’s what gives me pause on you. Looks like you are all over the place and can’t decide. But on the opposite side feels like wolf seeding doubt. Either way, no “case”. Where as there is a case that you created a creature mislynch. My not be a smoking gun but it is a case.

Or I want people to generate readable content, one way or the other.

I think if you look at how I handled Creature it was towny, and there was little reason why I would have had to do that as wolf. Who capitalized on the fact that I was pushing a townie?

Come on folks!

Get in here and help solve. Town has already lost if we let this level of inactivity continue.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:27 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:38 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:11 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:01 am oh LOL

i didnt even realize it was the same

ok i agree with you on that

i do not agree with you on your placement of me :nohandshake:
Tell me about your teammate, Creature
let me introduce you to creature, my teammate, who also coincidentally thought that i had replaced him for some reason.... all in a massive cover up to look like the most paired wolfteam in the century
ehhh.........

ehhhhhhhhh..........

eh... eh... eh... eh...

Yeah.

This is the kind of post that wolves make when you sus them and put them in the wrong team. I've been caught via this sort of post before. It's got that cockiness, Rising is like "Ha, you think you caught me, but you didn't because you're wrong on Creature!" rather than feeling like I'm wrong on them.
it's also normal sarcasm i use to say that the assumption that was made is illogical

ooooooorrrrr.....

I feel slightly better about screen after reading their ISO. Not like a wholllle loooot better but slllightly better.

They cased Porscha yesterday and if they had a case and an easy push idk if they'd want Porscha dead.

@Neon @risiinq- please come tell me why you're voting screenplay.

[VOTE: Rising] aubergine

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:38 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:11 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:01 am oh LOL

i didnt even realize it was the same

ok i agree with you on that

i do not agree with you on your placement of me :nohandshake:
Tell me about your teammate, Creature
let me introduce you to creature, my teammate, who also coincidentally thought that i had replaced him for some reason.... all in a massive cover up to look like the most paired wolfteam in the century

ehhh.........

ehhhhhhhhh..........

eh... eh... eh... eh...

Yeah.

This is the kind of post that wolves make when you sus them and put them in the wrong team. I've been caught via this sort of post before. It's got that cockiness, Rising is like "Ha, you think you caught me, but you didn't because you're wrong on Creature!" rather than feeling like I'm wrong on them.

Read Wilgy and going back and forth. They have great tone, but I think they can fake that.

If I had to be disingenous, I kind of feel like they may have tried to pocket me at one point, and I could make a viable world where wolf!Wilgy was stoking town!Seanzie's sus on town!Creature to let town!Seanzie charge ahead and bury a townie.

Wilgy is south of null, but not so far aouth that I's immediately petition for their death. I'd like a PoE of 3 to contain them though, which means I'll need to find more townreads.

Reviewed Falcon. Willing to run with them as town. there is no hint of the discomfort scum!Falcon feels about lying and making up reads or poking around.

Neon is 2nd top poster but I can't name a single take they've made.

I perused their ISO and every "read" I can see is "wagonomics" which makes little sense to me.

@Neon do you have any social reads? I'd like to see how you're currently sorting the game, because "wagonmics" is too easy for scum to hide behind.

Still waiting on either Lily or Screen to actually give a reason why I should be voted.

I think I am findable here, and them not engaging with me instead just voting isn't doing town any favors, even if you think I'm scum.

At this point the only case against me I could see would be one about me pushing for a creature elim, but that stops making sense if you look past level 0. My push on Creature was justified up until about 20 minutes before EoD when I wasn't around. Lily, whom is now voting me, agreed with my meta assessment of creature, so they in particular should have something more than "Sean killed creature" here to make a justifiable case on me.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:31 pm Oh it's a lie detector lame

What was your role?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:44 pm It's objectively always net beneficial to flip the CW especially when they are kinda scummy
Neon, if you're town then you are very blatantly playing into a wolf agenda. flipping a villager here specifically for being the day 1 CW is not a good play. I do not see why screen kills porscha either. The much more likely scenario is that the wolves are in falcon/wilgy/sean and they have been powerwolfing this entire game

speaking of [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Case me then. What have I done that is actually wolfy? My ISO isn't long. Prove that you're town by coming at me. Saying a scenerio is more likely without evidence is a bad sign.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:10 pm *hands a juice box*

tnx

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:06 pm*sip*

Why didn't you offer me any?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:32 pm Screen is blatant lhf imo

Why are the lhf? I don't see it.

I'm definitely okay with a screen elim. I'mma stay put for now since we got lots of time left, but they're near the bottom of my readlist.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:09 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:04 pm sry, i was afk eod and literally checked in one hour before to see what was going on b4 i left

i feel like i woulda saved creature but eh

whats done is done
Weird.
Two shots of Grand Marnier and one lucky lager, and yeah this is fucky
Are you trying to pocket me, Falcon?
[VOTE: sean] aubergine

I'll take that as a "maybe".

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:09 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:04 pm sry, i was afk eod and literally checked in one hour before to see what was going on b4 i left

i feel like i woulda saved creature but eh

whats done is done
Weird.
Two shots of Grand Marnier and one lucky lager, and yeah this is fucky

Are you trying to pocket me, Falcon?

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:04 pm sry, i was afk eod and literally checked in one hour before to see what was going on b4 i left

i feel like i woulda saved creature but eh

whats done is done

Weird.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:30 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:11 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:26 pm I checked their iso and thought it looked bad. No one wanted to talk about it. I probably need to stay with my gut reads and stop trying to think.
Whose ISO? What looked back?

What?
They person that was being talked about, Porcshe.

During my lunch break I ISO'd Porsche. Made a post about it and didn't get any feed back from it.
What do you think their ISO says now? Why do you think they were killed?
I haven't reread it with the new context. I think they where killed because mafia didn't think they could lynch them.

It's like 22 posts long. You could try.

If you think that, that is fair. Do you have any strong town leans? Who is mafia?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:11 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:26 pm I checked their iso and thought it looked bad. No one wanted to talk about it. I probably need to stay with my gut reads and stop trying to think.
Whose ISO? What looked back?

What?
They person that was being talked about, Porcshe.

During my lunch break I ISO'd Porsche. Made a post about it and didn't get any feed back from it.

What do you think their ISO says now? Why do you think they were killed?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:14 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:11 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:14 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:14 pm Falcon
Neon
Porscha
Risiinq
Seanzie
DrWilgy

Lilypetal
Creature
Srceenplay

wont vote screenplay rn tho he's very daddy
Is this list in order, from Towniest to Scummiest?

If so, why am I so high on your TRs?
no I just copy pasted the player list and moved a few to the color red the rest is meaningless
like half of what u took completely ignored the "this was a joke" post that was in her very short iso

and the other post is an obvious joke but I can see why you may take it seriously
This isn't Porscha saying "this is a joke", this is Porscha saying that there is no sorting within the groups, but the distinction between the two groups still holds.
Porscha was never wolf reading me. It's very hard to take away ANY sort of legacy because her main "reads" came like 2 hours into the game. It's ridiculous that you'd think that I would kill Porscha for those posts and although I think Porscha is very good at reading me there are plenty of other players I and most others would kill first in this lobby. You're looking in the wrong place and it's wolfy as hell

Regardless of who else people might kill, Porscha died. I don't think my conclusion that you are the most likely person to have killed Porscha is wrong. Was it a strong read? No, but it is legitamite, and the way you're responding to my suspicion makes me think I hit the nail on the head.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:15 pm I think I'm down to kill In sean/wilgy

now that I think about it sean comes into the day with an awful analysis of spew that he should be better than to do and he spearheaded the creature yeet

wilgy feels a lot like in hot fuzz, specifically when he pushed on me it felt incredibly in bad faith and when I pushed back he instantly stopped pressuring me which in retrospect makes him look super fucking wolfy

I don't think it is awful. Also, yeah, I did Spearhead the Creature yeet.

I think there is something to the fact that you vote Wilgy but talked about me first here.

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