The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:My main info dropping issue is the recent trend of basically *demanding* that people reveal whether they have been targeted or not; insisting that people reveal just *what* they have seen that leads them to believe someone else is civ; implying that not spelling things out is somehow not a civvie thing to do.

For me, "spelling things out" is the opposite of civvie. It leads to too much info in the thread, as well as some non-info related problems.

I would like to see hosts get back to adding "do not reveal you were targeted under penalty" in all PMs.

Another hosting related thing; when I host, I never give results to people as to whether or not their power went through or not UNLESS they would normally expect results (like they are a power switcher, and would normally get a power to use, but they are blocked. I would in that case reveal the block). That used to be the norm, iirc. I would like to get back to that. This way, someone never knows if they were redirected, or blocked, etc. They just know what goes on in thread like everyone else, and are free to make assumptions, false as well as true. The less players that get PMs the less possible info available.

As for penalties, I only modkill for severely egregious stuff, like active poor sportsmanship. I have taken night powers away, and used cumulative silent votes as well.

Per the bolded part - I think that was part of the problem in the champ game. tbh. people kept expecting everyone to explain why svs could possibly be civ - ad nasuim. when really - just reading through the thread that day and maybe the next one made it abundantly clear.

people continually asking her what she saw as far as eloh and I -and her maintaining "something in bea's posts and something in the host posts." was just about right - but still - for a newish player - that probably felt like pressure to try to make it more clear. I wouldn't have made the post that was made, but I can understand why my civ partner who hardly ever -due to my work and time zones - got to talk to me - might have - in those circumstances felt the need to make it.

And I do think it was was from pressure from the thread to explain more. There's this "explain more" as far as targets and stuff goes - then when you explain too much you're punished for info dumping.

At least this is how I drfunkenly see it today.

I'm reading this thread with interest. I don't feel like I have anything to contribute to it so I'm just commenting that I'm reading it and fwiw - the champ game as well as Who is the major reason MP's game is being played though I'm long over due in the rotation. My schedule has cleared up - but in light of these two games, I feel like I want to retool a lot of things.

Also - I never did understand why meta is a bad thing? Though that's prolly a discussion for another thread.