The Syndicate

indiglo wrote:Wow, but still 4 games? That's pretty amazing! You played great Devin.

I'm always happy to take one for the team. Even if my team goes on to win without me. Though I was a little bummed that it meant I probably wouldn't get to win with you. I'd still do it again in a heartbeat. (Sorry bea! It was purely strategic, NOT personal. And then Russti ends up dying right away... so you just never can have an iron clad plan in mafia I don't think.)

Hahaha - I know. It's all good. My fighting back was purely stratigic and not personal either. You should have seen rusti in bts though. He played it so innocent. I'm all why is indi going so hard after me if she knows we're all working together? I really didn't understand the mechanic that I was going to loose rusti when ryan died till it actually happened.

and the banners are awesome.

I am more than a bit jealous.

and I know I haven't said it yet, but congrats devin. You really did play a great game. The first win is always the sweetest...

Spacedaisy wrote:Indi and Dex are the most awesome of awesome, so I recommend playing their game. Or playing Homestar. Or both!

personally, I've gone with both. I need a VERY large dose of silly and absurd in my life. Keeps me happy and in the right frame of mind. Too much srrsbns is badbnss in my world.....

Bullzeye wrote:Bea if we could've won with you and there was a way to signal who we were we'd have kept you around. We did really appreciate that you didn't throw Russti under the bus when it would have been really easy for you to do so though

I appreciate that you appreciate the fact that I understand the rules and how wrong info dumping is. It wasn't because I didn't want to. It was because I respect the game.

I do get it - I was the sacrifice the island demanded. I just wish anyone on any side could have thought outside the box to let me hang out to do some killin' when I finally had the chance to do so. I get that I couldn't have won with you. But I would have helped you win if you would have helped me stay alive long enough to you know, maybe enjoy those rage plasmids you all just gave me and looted from me after the fact.

wot? I like to break rules. Besides - like I said - I'm only interested in bioshock infinate: The musical!

come on - that would be FUN!

Hedgy - the funny thing is - I prolly wouldn't have - had you guys not all turned lynch mob on me.

I mean I know I was in a rage and everything - but nobody - including russti - ever felt me out while they had a chance to. I was so in the dark - I really did start of the time trying to be a team player and couldn't figure out why indi was after me. - tbh - I didn't even know THE REST OF YOU EXISTED as far as game with in the game went. I was a blind vanilla civ before. And the only info I was given was about Choen.

When I was up for the lynch, by that time, I'd seen that I was truely on my own. I was a 90% accuracy gun for hire. if enough people would have kept me a live, I would have fought like no tomorrow for their side. And honestly that was my goal. Whoever keeps me alive - I'll kill everyone else.

It is just that no one thought I was worth keeping around.

linkie - hedgey,. each stab is a knife wound. In my defense - I had plasmids for exactly a day cycle.

more linkie - his dancers were both vote manips - one added votes, one subtracted votes.

oh - also - snow - it was you who gifted me a plazmid as your life was the reason everyone was turning against me.

tbh - when I was alive, I thought it was dom. He was the only one I thought who would love the irony of it enough to go ahead with it just for giggles.

now I know to keep many eyes on you too snowy

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, one more thing before I leave now and return later for postgame discussion.

I'll just be leaving this here...

All I care about is the music

now - you want a mafia about bioshock infinate the music remix? I'm DOWN with that.

the rest of it? yea ...not so much.... :P

I can't even begin to proceess all that.

I still just want to say - I was rooting for the lone security bot as soon as I knew he was still there! Aces - you can't even know how sad I was you died. I wanted to root for you as soon as your kill went through. We security bots were the underdogs from the get go. You deserve some kind of medal for making it as long as you did!

The rest of you players do have to understand. We were blind vanilla civs who had no access to any plasmids or any kind of game enhancing abilities - and when ryan died and they all went rouge? the security bots kill ratios were the LEAST of all of them.


Even as my baddie 2.0 self, I really did want one of ryan's LMS people to win. I mean - if my new team was going to dump me pretty much as soon as they found me - going out - I was going to help the team I spent the most time with.

I really really despite my role - was trying to give the best advice I could give to the LMS players.

I'm still looking forward to Epi telling me why it was a clever swan song. I'm so rarely clever. I do need great recapping of it so I can try to do it again.

linkie with daisy - I knew in the brief like one cycle I had with russtie who you and dev and indi were and I couldn't for the life of me understand why indi was coming out so hard on me given I thought our teams were all friends. Russtie played his role well. I had no idea it was coming till it was way too late to do anything about it.

That said, once I realized I was the sacrifice the island demanded, I wasn't going out without a fight. If I could have convinced the LMS players better that I it was in their best interests to keep me alive, I would have NKed each and every one of you with my 90% kill rate and my 48 hours of rage and plasmids going on. I could have had FUN making things nice for the LMS crew. - and I would have let them kill me so long as one of them was alive at the end.


I tried to pick a team and that team denied me, so I wanted my first team to win.


Bea 2.0 was the second most fun I've had in ages in a game. It's the closest thing to an outed baddie as I've ever had. Bea 1.0 - for all of my confusion was my most fun. It really was "back to basics" for me. It'd been a long time since I was a blind vanilla civ with no idea what was going on behind the curtain and no idea about the subject matter. I really truly was blind the whole time I was bea 1.0.

I say we zombies revolt and make the last few moments of this game as difficult as possible for them to find white posts!!!



grab a glass of wine, light a candle and chant...."Not the end...just remember...that death is not the end..."

linkie - wtf - the game ends while I'm posting my "let's revolt and take over the thread zombies!!!" no matter what my role, I've been side stepped at EVERY POINT in this game.

damint sock!!! I wanna post my bitchy post.

indiglo wrote:Well now I know who killed me. Harumph!

There there sis....

AceofSpaces wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Matahari wrote:Aces, you suspected daisy earlier because of her posts/nonposts, generally flying under the radar? What do you make of her saying that we should lynch her first? Do you see a civvie role who would do that?

Nev, basically same question for you- what has daisy done that would make you trust her? Why would she try to protect devin from a lynch?

I have no idea what Daisy is doing. I still find her suspicious for all the reasons I've already stated. I'm still trying to figure out what your talking about with Devin.

You're*

(Before Epi comes back from the dead to correct me)

MovingPictures07 wrote:Regarding looting, I haven't ignored any requests, but I can't address them until I get my spreadsheet back, sorry.

Kate wrote:Mp, will you tell us if a team is eliminated?

No.

Flyin' High wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, I must apologize. I was torn between voting for Hedge or voting for Nev. I wanted to think on it and vote right before I left. Dumb idea because I ended up running behind while getting ready for work and so I rushed out without voting. A thousand apologies.

Those apologies can't save you now. MP thirst for blood.

I am totally picturing a sock with vampire teeth and evil eyes.

This! I want this now!!!!!! The Sockpire needs a new avi!!!

Bullzeye wrote:

indiglo wrote:All deadies (of which I see there are many) should seriously check out Mafia of the Absurd on HV. It's goofy, it's nerdy, it's smart, it's light-hearted, but you're still gonna need your best thinking cap. Go on, you know you want to! Only 3 spots left, too.

I fully agree with all of the contents of this post. Indi's game comes with the Bullzeye stamp of approval. Or it would do if such a thing existed.

I will second that stamp of approval. There is no other mafia like HV mafia and Dex and Indi always make great games!

Epignosis wrote:

bea wrote: In the end, I find it ironic in a weird "Wow, I always thought I was pretty good at expressing myself in writing" kind of way that when I was posting the most genuine of my feelings, I was thought to have sounded "insincere" but when I reached the critical breaking point of "Oh, I can't be assed to care this much about a game anymore" and just kinda let saracstagal come out in type my posts "rang true" in the interpretation. This is why I'm amazed at language and how it moves and how intention and interpreted meaning can change so quickly.

Very clever swan song.

I particularly look forward to discussing this with you post game. I adore being clever and I need to know exactly where and how I was clever. It happens accidentally more times than you would ever believe.

Good luck any remaining civs and newly rouge players. While I can't say I have the magic list of who is who, I would have actively worked to use my powers on those I most thought was mafia. I'm sure I would have made mistakes, but ya know, gal wants to get in on the kililn' and eventually you have to pick a side for a while to live.

If I were not a member of ADAM and unsure of who to take out during the next night's bloody massacre about to happen, I would take a peek at two distinctive sets of people. Those that seemed to want me lynched very quickly right out of the gate and those who never struggled with the idea that might not be the best target and who seemed to just hop on the "Indi reads bea so well, bea must be bad" voting. I might take a look at people who contributed quite a bit at the beginning of the game, then just kinda dropped off participation wise. Not so much that people would forget mind you, but who suddenly became very good at just echoing what the more vocal players were saying. Any remaining civs and newly rouge players will have to work together to wipe out ADAM at night if they have any hope of winning though. I'm honestly saying, near as I can tell, they've suffered no casualties that I can see and with the addition of Jack and possibly Cohen and his vote manipulating splicers, that's a pretty solid voting block come lynch time.

In the end, I find it ironic in a weird "Wow, I always thought I was pretty good at expressing myself in writing" kind of way that when I was posting the most genuine of my feelings, I was thought to have sounded "insincere" but when I reached the critical breaking point of "Oh, I can't be assed to care this much about a game anymore" and just kinda let saracstagal come out in type my posts "rang true" in the interpretation. This is why I'm amazed at language and how it moves and how intention and interpreted meaning can change so quickly.

Thanks MP for a great game! I know nothing about Bioshock and I really was confused as all get out as bea 1.0. It had been a long time since I was a blind vanllia civ without even back ground knowledge to help me try to juggle some of the mess so that was a fun and eye opening experience. I loved replacing back in and had tons of fun in both my incarnations! Well done Socky!

Ok - I'm voting Bea again as all the cool kids are doing it. Besides, one last self vote from the game of record self votes is fun!

I will have to vote unfortunately early - as I have to take my car to get it's emissions test tomorrow and I'm to be at work just as the poll is closing.


I will try to hold my vote as long as I can - so that I can give a "dead Bea walking post." I'm sure the thread will dismiss it - since the thread is now ADAM controlled. But I hope to give as much advice as I can to everyone else before I go, even if they have to publicly laugh at me to stay in the game.

it's ok kate. You have to do what you feel is best. For your sake, I hope you are an ADAM member. Because they are the only people who benefit by my lynch today.


If you are not, learn from your mistake. Because your very life depends on it.

( And - for what it's worth - I give this same message to EVERYONE who votes me today.) Only ADAM benefits by my lynch. Everyone else suffers and looses someone who would have helped you.

Pay attention people. Pay attention to who votes me and how they vote me. Once I'm dead, ADAM has the full range of this thread.

If I had to save myself by voting INH I would. That said, I would like to vote someone else because:

Like I said, ADAM mafia is most likely the strongest group alive - well them and the Choen contingency, but I've not yet worked out how the independents come into play yet. I would worry though if Jack did gain BTS with Choen at some point [and it was a possibility] as if that mafia team has a voting block of the mafia team plus Choen's vote manipulators etc etc etc.. Idk if INH is ADAM, but something tells me that if he were, a lot more people would be leary of lynching him...

At this point....I'd be looking at who are the most vocal strong voices in the thread that seem to be "steering" where our lynches go. Because again, as far as I know, the most intact team still remaining is a mafia team (with the possibility of having the independents on their side as well) . But what do I know? I'm surely bad. Everyone says so. It must be ture.

Personally, I think Bea is completely misunderstood and I won't be voting her.

Oh yes - I believe I'm now suspicious because I knew which splicer was the one that did indi in quickly? Yea, it's because I had just read the front page. I myself wanted to make sure that all the splicers that could kill were civ before I said as much. So, I knew which one it was because I have the baddie power of literacy.

Also, the people I'm most worried about? The ADAM mafia. To my knowledge they haven't lost a single player (unless there was some loss of players in the NK's) and they just gained Jack as a teammate.

I feel like I could help people who would let me, but ya'll seem pretty hell bent on lynching me. So you know...whatevs.

Kate wrote:OK so Bea comes back after Indi and I make a pretty large case on her and votes for civ. Then comes back again, and doesn't even mention that case (or Daisy's) and just ignores all mention of her and no one thinks that's odd?

Not to mention, Indi is suddenly dead?

My vote will be going to bea today.

I'm sorry did I miss something new I was supposed to address? Was daisy's case asking anything different?

I didn't kill indi, though I was glad to see that at least one other civ (at that time - I'm still wrapping my head around all this allignment changing) thought she was bad as well.

Again - saying "you" instead of "we" really was an "I'm alive now not dead" slip. Did I over react to indi gunning me? Sure I did. I was alive and adjusting to my new role and out of no where there she was. I've pretty much been a mentioned lynch candidate since Day 2, so yea, coming back in again just to have my name thrown right back into the fire did have me a bit on the touchy side. I can't say why Arjia behaved or didn't behave in this game because I'm not him. I do know that the role I replaced into is on the side of good.

If there's something else I missed, I'm happy to address it. Honestly everything else seemed to me different wording of the same points I already responded to.

the ice splicer was the one that did in indi. And until the night post, that was a civ role. if I remember correctly choen's splicers are the ones that have the vote manips.

re: boomslang - ok - I can understand where you are thinking there. I will look forward to hearing what he has to say.

Dom: Yea - I understand - he was more of an advocator of you when I was Bea 1.0 because of the two of us stuck in the ridiculousness of B = "baddies", he (I would guess?) felt I was more civ? And if not me, then you? IDK - I'm just trying to get myself into the sort of mindset of "if it's not one of them, it's surely the other of them" that seemed to run this thread the early stages of this game. I get the thinking, flawed though it may be. TBH - I'm not sure what the case on DF is either. He's always quiet - he's more of a "quality not quantity" sort of poster, yet you always hope when he posts there's more "quality" than you get. Kinda like DP ya know? I've not seen why we should think DF is bad, but then again -

every civ bot and splicer (that are not the vote manipulation splicers that are cohen's) just turned rouge - I can't even being to make heads or tails of that...

I honestly agree with bullz re: INH. I found his logic post my lynch to be odd and I still don't understand his thinking about how using my reasoning made bullz bad when of the 4 people I mentioned, I was least concerned about him. I said that in my old role the whole way through. I don't feel the need to quote my 1.0 version, because I remember saying it. And in regards to INH - yea, I don't get it.

Bullz - it looks to me you are thinking INH is the best person to lynch - and I do agree I can't make heads or tails of his logic this game, but I can never make heads or tails of INH's logic. it's especially fun when he's your host! Are you saying Boomslang is defending him? And I'm really not sure what to make of Dom yet, you're implying he's changing his tune, but it seems to me he's been going after at least Snow Dog from the get go? How's he changing things now?

ok - so still in processing mode.

Basicly a whole civ team has just gone rouge. A baddie has deflected to the other baddie team (As it was BWT's team, it's safe to assume that)..... The remaining baddie on that team just went pyscho and is about to go on a killing spree.

Do I have that all right?

Dom - you seem pretty set still in Snow Dog, INH or Bullz - in light of all this new info, your opinion of them doesn't change? Whyfore?

I'm willing to have the conversation, I'm just not sure what the conversation is.

RIP Indi and DH. I'm still pretty sure you were bad indi, but you are a worthy opponent and I'll miss playing with you.

Sucks that DH was Ryan.

I need some time to process all this....

rip dex. I'm sorry I was wrong.

I'm going with Dex again. I thought him bad enough to vote last time I could and I see nothing since that vote that makes me think any differently.

indiglo wrote:

bea wrote: really? really?

I was a civ is confirmed - I can only say I'm still a civ - but my civnes before WAS confirmed. And you - you who supposedly "can read me so well" as to know when I'm all "sweet bea" -DID read me wrong. I said "was" because I was referring to my old role. My new role is just as civ as ever, I just understand that I have to start from zero this time around. I'm concerned that you would so obviously miss my intentions in the posts between my old role and my new role.

It's almost like you were determined for me to be bad the first time around and now that i've a new role, you'll be damn sure positive I'm bad this time around....

I love you too sis...[/ot}

but you feel baddie to me. And have for a while now.

I did mis-read you. You are right there. And I am sorry about that. I never claimed to "read you so well" once. I simply said I had seen you pull the "sweet Bea" act before. I was never certain you were bad before and I never said I was. In fact, once I read your explanations to me, I was happy to simply watch and wait. I wasn't gunning for you, nor was I determined for you to be bad.

Interesting that suddenly you think I'm baddie because I mention your name once you have a new role though. You never said that before when I asked questions about you or suspected you... when you were a civ.

This is not a defense to me. You're just trying to sling mud at me. Was I wrong before? Yes. I've said so many times. Me being wrong about you before has zero baring on the role you have this time. This defense makes me feel worse yet about you... whereas last time your defense made me feel better about you.

Indi - I am sorry - I'm trying to shake off my old role and embrace my new one. While both are civ, When I was in the old role, it felt like you were gunning to make me bad.Talking about a game that you couldn't reference in which I was "so very manipulative" set me on my radar. I admit I could have over embellished thoughts there. And thoughts, at the time, I didn't mention because I was trying to stay cool.

I'm not trying to sling mud at you. At all. I'm trying to say - you're always thinking I'm bad in this game even when I'm not. And not once in this game have you given me a chance to be good. Forgive me for being jumpy about the fact that the person who should know me best in this game has misread me the whole way through. At some point, I'm a fool to not think that the misread is not on purpose. What would you think about me if the role's were reversed?

indiglo wrote:I thought that exchange between Devin and Bea felt odd, so I re-read it. After my second or third reread, this stuck out to me like a sore thumb:

bea wrote: I do really think that focusing on us new replacements leaves many unturned things in this game. i agree with dex in only this one thing. The baddies have been VERY good at distracting all of you from where we should go.

Previously, (when she was playing as a confirmed civ before I, and others, decided we should kill her - still sorry about that sis!!) she used "we" and "us" a lot. In this post above she switches from "we" to "you". She also made this post:

bea wrote: why would you have your on me or kate?

Kate is new - and I was a blind civ. why does that make us suspicious?

This seems to imply that she was civ before (which, clearly we all know) and since she uses the past tense "I WAS a civ" it also implies that she no longer is... and that she's using that previous civ cred to defend herself now.

Does this make sense? Did anyone else notice this?



linki

really? really?

I was a civ is confirmed - I can only say I'm still a civ - but my civnes before WAS confirmed. And you - you who supposedly "can read me so well" as to know when I'm all "sweet bea" -DID read me wrong. I said "was" because I was referring to my old role. My new role is just as civ as ever, I just understand that I have to start from zero this time around. I'm concerned that you would so obviously miss my intentions in the posts between my old role and my new role.

It's almost like you were determined for me to be bad the first time around and now that i've a new role, you'll be damn sure positive I'm bad this time around....

I love you too sis...[/ot}

but you feel baddie to me. And have for a while now.

I would love to hear anything from inh. and dfaraday tbh. I'll give kate the benefit of the doubt for right now. (which yes - means I am unsure of gob at the moment...I'll give kate time to talk for sure. My cranky at gob was he wasn't talking.) I know kate will. As she is replacing in and I am as well anxiously wait to hear what she has to say.

INH especially has my eye as he said bullz was responsible for my 1.0 lynch and bullz so wasn't responsible for it. His ripiywg bea comment also has my eyes up as bea 1.0 was lynched and totally confirmed as a civ. After my 1.0 lynch - I've been nothing but suspish of INH.

It'll be where my vote goes unless someone can give me a better reason to vote somewhere else.

it did just a bit feel like - "well there are new players for absent ones, they must be bad" - in the first post.

I'm sorry if I miss read that. I could have been over sensitive.

I'm still not sure what to make of dex yet. It frustrates me to no end tbh.

well...you know...green is green for a reason kate.... though I'm right there with you - it made many of the earlier days easier to get through....

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Linki: Because I have no ideas about Ajira or G.O.B. They have given us next to nothing to go on regarding their roles. This late in the game I'm still not sure who to trust.

I do understand that my other post kinda contradicts this - but I do see where you are coming from - I railed about gob lots - I look forward to seeing a player actually play the role.I can't wait to hear what Kate has to say.... As fare as Ajira goes, I know he was civ, but not always playing the game. I hope to make up for that as quickly as I can.


I do really think that focusing on us new replacements leaves many unturned things in this game. i agree with dex in only this one thing. The baddies have been VERY good at distracting all of you from where we should go.

I wish I understood where we should go, I'm still looking for it. But I do know that the "common" thing isn't always the "best" thing.

linki- hi la = what do you think?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:So... I am not sure at all how tomorrow is going to go because we have our company picnic about halfway through my normal work-day. Therefore, I will have to cast my vote now. I am voting Dex again for reasons previously stated. *votes Dex*

this feels like distancing. And throwing susphs on the new players because he can. I'm curious that he voted dex in an ot post...

I look forward to other people's thoughts...

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Good luck with your reading Kate! You will definitely hate the posting contest. I did

Welcome back Bea? I know you just started your knew role but I have my eye on you!

Linki: I have my on Kate too

why would you have your on me or kate?

Kate is new - and I was a blind civ. why does that make us suspicious?

Bea 2.0 knows nothing more than bea 1.0 knew. I'm happy I kept up with things.

I look forward to hearing from kate as I suspected GOB because he only spoke when I suspected him and gave him the "noob card" out which he took - and then never came back and talked about.

I know what it's like replacing in - and I'm doing the same thing kate. But - from your re-read perspective - I'm sure you'll see why I suspected him - and anything you can give me will help me the next day forward...

thellama73 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Clearly I should be rezzed. I mean, I played better than anyone else who was dead. And I'm nicer than all of you. And smarter. And sexier.

WHAT????? My name isn't on the poll?!?!

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I'm not there either! Oh, the injustice of it all! We should form our own dead team, BWT, and finish off all these traitors who lynched us.

icanhazjoiningplzktks!