The Syndicate

Nice end game @DrWilgy @Michelle !

Thanks for the host @Syn !

GG Maf, that was a fuckin' nail biter

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:56 pm An exterminator came to say hello. Falcon45ca was the only one friendly enough to say it back.

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You are the Pselliopus barberi, otherwise known as the orange assassin bug. Not much is actually known about this bug, except that they’re found in the United States and like stabbing other bugs with their proboscis and then sucking out all the gooey bits inside once they’re suitably liquefied. Not unlike a milkshake, if you think about it.

Falcon45ca was... a villager.

D2 begins. It will end in 48 hours, with the chop happening at 2:00 PM PST / 11:00 PM CET on Saturday, August 5.

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@☆Princess Abigail☆
@DrWilgy
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Kate
@Michelle
@Quin
@Roxy
@Wiml

Fixed

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm Why are yall voting for 7up?

Talk to me about what you find in his ISO

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 pm My Prime Minister just broke up with his wife...that's never happened before in my lifetime
thats nothing we had a president put cigars in very strange places

Honestly, the quality of his politics aside, he was one of the funniest President's of All Time, and most of it wasn't even deliberate. Absolute comedy gold

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?
The world may never know.

Honestly, it's a mystery even to me

OK, I think I cracked this nut @Epignosis @Kate

I likely have one of the lowest word count per post/game in TS

I believe putting extra space between the sentences is my version of Big Truck syndrome, except it relates to my word count instead of my phallus

My Prime Minister just broke up with his wife...that's never happened before in my lifetime

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:26 am
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Hi everybody
Hey Kate! Cool to finally play a game with you. I can't be certain, but I suspect we might have a decent yin-yang dynamic available to us, you and I. Your style is heavily intuitive, and it's a nice complement to, well, you'll see.

Only applicable if you received a town role.
I'm town. I'm always town!

Come be towny and do the Kate town stuff

@Kate Are you able to talk to me about some reads?

I've glanced at your argument re: Neon & her coherency as Maf v T, what else ya got?

I came across that reading your ISO Neon, but perhaps for the sake of brevity, could you talk to me about your read on Kate?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:01 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:36 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:47 pm You're implying if Abigail flips town we have to flip Kate?
No. I'm saying that if people believe the dichotomy between the two is valid, then they shouldn't be alive together in the final phases of the game -- folks would be forced to make a choice that'd be similar to guessing.

The dichotomy may also be invalid. I hope folks will discuss that.
Ok
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:50 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:41 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:38 pm
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Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:03 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:27 am

Can you explain, in detail that I am sure to understand, what you mean by this gif response to post that does concern you nor contain anything posted by you?
Well see I'm playing mafia so generally speaking wolfy behavior always concerns me. Including this.
Yah I am playing mafia too I do not need that.

What is wolfy behavior that you see in this post?
Who in the post you quoted is wolfy?
Why are they wolfy?
Don't need what exactly not sure what you don't need. I responded to something I didn't like.

It was the second pockety ass last towards anyone and everyone who expressed a scum read on me a towny so yeah that's kinda wolfy fmpov as a town who's getting pushed weakly for something I do literally every game on other sites with great success.

Now that's kinda whatever omgus I get it I get all defensive over people voting me early to but what I don't do is go around uwuing anyone who 180s their read for weak reasons
This is a total word salad and I don't consider it an explanation for the read or reasons for finding me wolfy
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:42 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆ would you be able to put together a full list of reads? Rainbow or tiers or something like that would be super. Explanations only if you feel like it.
I mean my list is just what I've posted

Your town or your not in my eyes

You and falcon are town and I'm like at least gonna fake confidence until exelo on both those reads.

I literally have not found anyone else this game. Wiml is probably the closest thing I have to another town lock at this point in catch up his posts are inquisitive and insightful in a way that's towny in mindset in my opinion. Their questions seem to come from a place of genuine solving and not from a place of pushing a scum agenda.

Now I do need to disclose that my dyslexia is particularly awful this game so I'm struggling to read and retain a lot of Wimls posts because they are often wordy but what I do manage to understand feels pure as snow to me...

Actually writing this post has made me pretty confident

TOWN CORE

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
+3

Falcon is like exclusively just based off the fact that there's a large consensus on him being town I am in agreement though less hoorah on it but others confidence is just kinda influencing my choice since it gels with my general read direction on falc
Are you implying Falcon is town because he is thread spewed?
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:36 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:28 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?
Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...
How did you read that content for Michelle and Roxy?
I think I've made my stance on Michelle pretty clear I think they've been excessively wolfy.

Also talked about Roxy
No, your stance are far from being clear, can you restate your reasons?

You have zero desire to solve me in good faith. You have conf biased your conclusion since post one much like Epi

Player's using confirmation bias in their solve are town far more often than not.

Just look at how I solved, or rather didn't solve, your slot in Champs

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:14 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:06 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:00 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:55 am Well that's unfortunate.
What do you think of the reasons I gave for town reading falcon?
Farty.
I laughed.

Why do you read me as town if my town read on your suspect is farty?
I actually used that because you used it to describe my post and I though it was funny.

I just looked at it.

I think my thing was seeing him vote you and Michelle, mainly Michelle, and thinking it was bad.

Your townread on him I can maybe see from your POV with how he was reading you specifically.
Though I think the "Voting him until he creates a towncore" kind of just feels like a fake thing to use just to set a bar however high he wants and not give credit.

I'm back and forth on the read itself I'll have to see him a second go around.

What're your thoughts on D1 now?

This might be the last post that actually had any content that we could call solving.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:20 am Reading falcon, I suppose I should caveat that just because I believe LC has a genuine read on falcon, that doesn't mean it's good.

LC's read begins with the thought that falcon wasn't interested in learning anything by calling out Epi for his vote on me. I feel like falcon's approach to this whole game has been the opposite of that, because I'm seeing thoughtful attempts to prompt info or responses in most of his posts.

I don't believe that LC believes his read. I'll check his ISO and see what he's done since I last took note of his posting

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:24 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:04 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

I can sleep, I have a town core

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:16 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game
Good to play with you again Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pmLinki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Well exactly two of us murder in cold blood, unless of course we want to argue that the civilians are the bad guys for killing someone first. We can disregard the moral implications of our actions though. Everything we do here is for the greater good.
Thanks, likewise!

There's no bad guy in this game, only good guys who received a villain role!

I don't feel I've done anything to merit a townread

What are you seeing that I'm not?
I saw you shouting I AM TOWN!
Reminded me of the vocaroo game and felt warm

Talk to me more about Vocaroo Maf...IIRC you were not in that game
I listened more than 90% of it - skipped some records of Mac's voice where I couldn’t get anything but I liked the concept and I would play the next one of I have time.
Epi's songs were the highlight of the game.

Perfect, thank you!

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

I can sleep, I have a town core

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:16 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game
Good to play with you again Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pmLinki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Well exactly two of us murder in cold blood, unless of course we want to argue that the civilians are the bad guys for killing someone first. We can disregard the moral implications of our actions though. Everything we do here is for the greater good.
Thanks, likewise!

There's no bad guy in this game, only good guys who received a villain role!

I don't feel I've done anything to merit a townread

What are you seeing that I'm not?
I saw you shouting I AM TOWN!
Reminded me of the vocaroo game and felt warm

Talk to me more about Vocaroo Maf...IIRC you were not in that game

[VOTE: limecoke] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:27 pm ☆Princess Abigail☆

This is mafia. Let's go.

Its been 21 hours since this post.

What other reads do you have?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:52 am also I miss splints this game and also SVS.

I've got reasons to TR a few players, and as of now I'm looking at Epi, Lime & Kate.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:41 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:24 am Jay, Neon, & Michelle all prolly town
I think that's there at max 1 wolf in this list of names.

What does your read list look like? Do you have a color arrangement a la Jay?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:29 am @falcon45ca give me a chance to *at least* catch a break at work I'll try and respond during the meeting <3

Fo sho

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:23 am During the day tho?

I am Mary Fuckin' Poppins
During the day I am a hard assed boss type bitch lmao

So's Mary Poppins, 'cept she uses a spoonful of sugar.

If I have less resistance during the day, I have more energy for Batman/Baba Yaga at night

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:26 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:18 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:

falcon45ca
Michelle
--
Kate
Epignosis
--
Abigail
Wiml
--
DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke

Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.
I would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.
Ftr I don't think JJJ meant this as a slight at all.

Nobody in the yellows at the time of that post had posted anything game-related (only 1 person, you, had posted). It's pretty fair to say that those people hadn't yet been deeply involved yet and all he's saying there is that you haven't had the time to play as of then, not that you're a worse player or have less accurate reads.
I appreciate you having JJJ's back but we have had a history of miselimming bc of my low posting ways and his baddie way of looking town when high posting AND vice versa. I was just reminding him of our past.

What are your first impressions of the game? Are you able to find any players as towny/scummy as of yet?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Hi everybody
Hey Kate! Cool to finally play a game with you. I can't be certain, but I suspect we might have a decent yin-yang dynamic available to us, you and I. Your style is heavily intuitive, and it's a nice complement to, well, you'll see.

Only applicable if you received a town role.
I'm town. I'm always town!

Come be towny and do the Kate town stuff

@DrWilgy Wherefore art thou?

Jay, Neon, & Michelle all prolly town

During the day tho?

I am Mary Fuckin' Poppins

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:

falcon45ca
Michelle
--
Kate
Epignosis
--
Abigail
Wiml
--
DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke

Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.
I would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.

At night, I am equal parts Batman and Baba Yaga

Lime Coke...he knows me well enough to know that everything I've done is well within my town range.

I don't believe he believes his read.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:

@DrWilgy - Town
@Epignosis - Mafia
@falcon45ca - Mafia (not the recent one)
@Kate - Mafia
@Quin - Both
@Roxy - Both

Sorry for the mass ping!

I'm not gonna link em, cuz it's annoying AF on mobile (for me at least), but I'll tell ya some to check out.

Backyard Baseball, Scooby-Doo are two good ones to check out, as they're games that I won as Maf and end gamed.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:39 am JJJ being a wolf is probably the worst possible gamestate for us rn so putting current and future effort into solving him is a good idea.

Jay is town thus far.

If he's still here D3 and we've not flipped a wolf, he's Maf

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:28 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:26 am Whom I THINK can be a wolf is...

....

....

THIS GUY!!!

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I'd love to hear more about that.
Doesn't seem to care about his vote.

His question towards Epi voting Quinn didn't feel like something he was trying to use to solve Epi and didn't look like he cared about the response.

I move my vote often in every game, regardless of alignment.

What specifically about this game and how I've used my vote makes you think I don't care about it?

Regarding Epi, he is in my POE, so you are incorrect sir

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?
The world may never know.

Honestly, it's a mystery even to me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?

I

Could do

More?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:29 pm I'm voting for [VOTE: Quin] aubergine.

Why?

If you want them to get engaged, wouldn't it help to tag them?
Is that what I'm doing?

Oh dear. I didn't realize.

I don't know what you're doing.

That's why I asked.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:29 pm I'm voting for [VOTE: Quin] aubergine.

Why?

If you want them to get engaged, wouldn't it help to tag them?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:15 pm

Yay game, busy YaYa'ing tonight I'll be around tomorrow

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm I AM TOWN!

We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another

@Michelle

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

I can sleep, I have a town core

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:16 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game
Good to play with you again Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pmLinki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Well exactly two of us murder in cold blood, unless of course we want to argue that the civilians are the bad guys for killing someone first. We can disregard the moral implications of our actions though. Everything we do here is for the greater good.
Thanks, likewise!

There's no bad guy in this game, only good guys who received a villain role!

I don't feel I've done anything to merit a townread

What are you seeing that I'm not?
I saw you shouting I AM TOWN!
Reminded me of the vocaroo game and felt warm

OK, but I do that every single game, and you gave me a towncore cred based off my NAI intro post

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

I can sleep, I have a town core

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:16 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game
Good to play with you again Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pmLinki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Well exactly two of us murder in cold blood, unless of course we want to argue that the civilians are the bad guys for killing someone first. We can disregard the moral implications of our actions though. Everything we do here is for the greater good.
Thanks, likewise!

There's no bad guy in this game, only good guys who received a villain role!

I don't feel I've done anything to merit a townread

What are you seeing that I'm not?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:23 pm Please tell me everything about your vote, @falcon45ca. Pour your rationale over me like hot syrup into a freshly ironed waffle.

I'm gonna pressure you til you're able to find a towncore via player engagements & Excel spreadsheets, or til I find someone else to vote

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:18 pm I AM TOWN!

Welcome, O Life! I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience, and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race
Hello falcon. Are you prepared to join me in this journey of conquest over those who would ransack our homes and leer over our children's beds in the night?

Imma lynch Maf til they tell me the game ends.

I like to keep it simple

[VOTE: jae] aubergine

I AM TOWN!

Welcome, O Life! I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience, and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race

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