The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:59 pm How'd the first Hustle go? Good times gang?

I enjoyed this game setup

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:22 am @falcon45ca

By the way, I was gearing up to post "If Mac and Gavial are in Final 3 I snapvote Gavial and say GG" just to throw it out there since I had Mac pretty well townread. But then as I was catching up I realized Night 1 ended and Alison posted that I died.

Literally almost outed a read post death.

Haha, you got a read right on me this game!

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:03 amweird game ngl

Thank you for the host!

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:59 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:46 pm CR, you could be Maf...I can see reasons to find you as scum.



I'd rather lose to you as scum tho than lose to Gav


[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

I think Falcon just didn’t wanna lose to a wolf that tunnelled him lol.

You don't "think" that, I just told you that.



Sheesh, you're even trying to take credit for things you haven't done after you've lost. Classic Gav

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:53 pm My case be so good though why didn’t you fall for it Falcon?
Eh, GG.

Frankly, I just thought your play was too destructive to actually be scum. Otherwise I'd have pushed your slot as scum much sooner, instead of pushing you as destructive town.


But then, here you are in an F3...the bait vote on yourself last RD looked damn scummy. Wilgy's comments on flipping you as his legacy looked like distancing.


Last RD you looked damn pockety, the transition from tunneling me to giving me space didn't compute w/ town mindset IMO. Like I said, I was expecting you to pocket me this RD, I think you'd enjoy doing that to win F3 after our game dynamics.

Finally, if CR is Maf and you're town? I think he NKs you and sets me to ML MissC.


GG Gav, GG Wilgy



Town! We did not fail forever, nice endgame CR!!

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:50 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:48 pm GG to whoever is my Townmate, and GG to whoever the Maf actually is

It's ok I'm town.

For real? Don't fuck with me plz

GG to whoever is my Townmate, and GG to whoever the Maf actually is

@Alison I think we're all set here

CR, you could be Maf...I can see reasons to find you as scum.



I'd rather lose to you as scum tho than lose to Gav


[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:41 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:38 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:13 pm Don't worry, I'll be sure to explain to Falcon why you're the wolf.
Which will age well if Falcon is the last wolf.

Give me your case against Gav

They led the wagon on the 0 poster Sig and made an effort to get town cred by having Wilgy, who was under pressure since D1 bussed.
After Wilgy died, the fact that they survived night after night was making me feel doubts that I was having trouble articulating and now it seems I was proven correct by the fact that they snap voted me and you would have ended the game if you were the last wolf.

Wilgy's push on Gav at the end, "make sure you flip Gav"...decent partner distancing

Gav felt like he was pocketing me last RD, getting set to pull this switch. I think he'd get a kick out of pocketing me as scum for the end game after our back and forth all game.

Gav surviving night after night...like, if you're Maf, I'd think you'd NK Gav if he's town, and then pitch MissC as ML...I cased her hard yesterday

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:13 pm Don't worry, I'll be sure to explain to Falcon why you're the wolf.
Which will age well if Falcon is the last wolf.

Give me your case against Gav

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:34 pm [VOTE: GAVIAL]
No reason not to cross vote.
@falcon45ca if you're mafia, you have no reason to slowroll this.

I am not the last wolf.

Hmmmmm

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:03 am Hmm who did MightyQ scum read again?

I can't recall off the top of my head

If Gav and I are still alive in an F3, it'll be for only 1 of 2 reasons: either he's Maf, or the Maf will use him to ML me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:56 am Honest to God if I survive the Night and Falcon is still alive I’m snap voting Falcon tomorrow.

Why would I leave you alive for a F3 if I'm Maf?

Fuck

The suspense...

Nervous

I'll say this as well about Porscha: they're doing the same thing I called Wilgy out for, ie: stirring the thread discussion w/o adding any new insights or theories into the gamestate themselves.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:40 pm Falcon if your town here you better me right about this.

WTF kind of pressure is that to put on a guy? I am town, and as such I have absolutely zero certainty on anyone's slot save my own.

If Porscha is the last wolf, they have little incentive to engage the thread. They've been TR since the Wilgy flip, and adding to the thread discussion would increase the likelihood of getting caught if they're Maf.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:33 pm if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?

people have real lives lol

We all do, yet here we are. Trying to solve.

if Porscha is town, why aren't they trying to solve w/ us?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:31 pm Time to see if Wolf votes me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:31 pmMy secret plan

Do you mean the secret plan you are saying out loud?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:19 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:19 pm I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.

Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.

Does anyone else see a progression on Porscha from Wilgy? He had Pors as Town here

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:42 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:38 am Wilgy wagon looks pure, not so sure about Porscha.



That's why my vote is on Wilgy over Porscha

Care to fill me in on the Porscha wagon while I'm catching up?

And then there's this

Do we see Wilgy push Porscha before this?



I'd like CR, MissC, & Gav to take a peek so it's not just my eyes

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:19 pm Lets be honest, if Wilgy survived and Porscha flipped wolf would we ever catch them?

Yeah, Mac would've made it difficult for Wilgy. Then again, Mac died that night

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:42 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:38 am Wilgy wagon looks pure, not so sure about Porscha.



That's why my vote is on Wilgy over Porscha

Care to fill me in on the Porscha wagon while I'm catching up?

And then there's this

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:39 pm Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac

There's this

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:02 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 am Paopan can be town if Porscha/MightyQ have at least one wolf, as proposing to wagon them feels unaligned from where I'm at.

This makes sense.

Hmmmm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:49 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Spicy, do you think Porscha might be the last wolf?

I'm not really sure. I don't like players coasting, doing little and less to help town.

Alright, anything more substantial than that?
Question: Do we think that there's a world where WIlgy who is suspected from D1 gets Porscha to bus them and because they happened to be w/w wagons, that would lead us down the primrose path of town eating itself alive?

If it's W/W wagons w/ Wilgy, and Wilgy wins that coin toss, then he looks pretty good. He pushed Pors pretty steady IIRC



Why did Wilgy push Pors?

Alright, Imma channel JJJ here and choose to trust those who've actually been posting and playing the game this RD

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:52 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:51 pm If Porscha is cleared town, then why does MightyQ die over Gav?

Cuz Gav & I haven't been seeing eye to eye?


Porscha is only thought to be cleared town due to being the CW to Wilgy, no?

That's the thing, Porscha being wolf to their partner would explain their sparse activity.
Let the town go for players such as MissC and Paopan and sit back, sip champagne and laugh.

Jesus fuck, it kinda freaks me out when you agree with me so quickly

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:51 pm If Porscha is cleared town, then why does MightyQ die over Gav?

Cuz Gav & I haven't been seeing eye to eye?


Porscha is only thought to be cleared town due to being the CW to Wilgy, no?

Leave the 4 of us to bicker while they sit back

MightyQ is an NK I could see from them as well

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Spicy, do you think Porscha might be the last wolf?

I'm not really sure. I don't like players coasting, doing little and less to help town.

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:41 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:40 pm If this game goes to a F3, what are the odds it's Porscha?

That's entirely possible.
We've been flipping towns after Wilgy.

Well, to be fair we've flipped town, singular, since Wilgy.



This is only D3

If this game goes to a F3, what are the odds it's Porscha?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:37 pm

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:33 pm Do you feel CR is pushing you from a town or a wolf perspective?

i find it somewhat scummy! but i think that overall you're more likely the last wolf. my current poe would be you then CR, but i intend to keep evaluating porscha (and also gav i guess i just don't think i vote gav) and i think i'm more likely to find CR town than you

Sounds like you've already made your mind up. I hope you appreciate the irony, given how upset you've been getting this RD over what you say is the same thing happening to you.

i find your push very frustrating, i'm not mad that you have me in your poe lol

It's been known to happen

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:33 pm Do you feel CR is pushing you from a town or a wolf perspective?

i find it somewhat scummy! but i think that overall you're more likely the last wolf. my current poe would be you then CR, but i intend to keep evaluating porscha (and also gav i guess i just don't think i vote gav) and i think i'm more likely to find CR town than you

Sounds like you've already made your mind up. I hope you appreciate the irony, given how upset you've been getting this RD over what you say is the same thing happening to you.

Do you feel CR is pushing you from a town or a wolf perspective?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:30 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:23 pm

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:57 pm i think reading everything i've posted and just being like "huh but your vote!" is just a bad look at the situation and again, not actually evaluating me just looking for ANYTHING you can push on and ignoring everything else

See, here's the thing: we have been evaluating you. Just because player's find you scummy doesn't mean they haven't, and frankly that just seems to be your defense: "if you find me scummy, then all you're doing is tunneling".



It's like you find no reason whatsoever to scum read you, like you think you're beyond reproach

i think that you specifically are either tunneled or a wolf. CR's push i don't like for different reasons. i think that you are reading things from me seeking things that confirm that i'm wolf and are disregarding explanations or other evidence

I read your explanations, I just don't trust them.



If you're unable to see why I and others think you're scum, then I don't know what to tell you.

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:26 pm Ngl I'm starting to wonder if MissC is a miss from their posting.
Am I crazy for thinking they might be a miss here?

No. They could be a miss, I don't know. IMO they have the highest likelihood of being partnered w/ Wilgy, it's not a red check.

@Porscha Do you have any thoughts on MissC and what she's been posting?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:57 pm i think reading everything i've posted and just being like "huh but your vote!" is just a bad look at the situation and again, not actually evaluating me just looking for ANYTHING you can push on and ignoring everything else

See, here's the thing: we have been evaluating you. Just because player's find you scummy doesn't mean they haven't, and frankly that just seems to be your defense: "if you find me scummy, then all you're doing is tunneling".



It's like you find no reason whatsoever to scum read you, like you think you're beyond reproach

I'll say this, given what MissC has said re: myself & re: CR, I'm a little surprised her vote is on me & not CR. Is that because she feels I'm an easier wagon to push than CR? Or does she actually find me scummier than CR?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:15 pm Falcon I swear if your wolf.

Fear not, I am town.