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by falcon45ca
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
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Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:43 pmIt makes sense then to you that I kill Scotty for TR me, and then I kill Wilgy for SR me...why don't I just kill Wilgy N1? He was sus of me D1 IIRC
It makes sense to me that Wolves think different thoughts and come to different decisions as the game evolves.

I do not agree with trying to frame these events as a connected master plan. You killed Scotty for reasons that made the most sense to you during Night 1, and you killed Wilgy for reasons that made the most sense to you during Night 2. Asking why you wouldn't shortcut the Wilgy kill to Night 1 doesn't make sense to me.

Furthermore, and I just want to get this right, are you implying that my idea of why you would choose those kills is "Scotty for TR you" and "Wilgy for SR you"?

No, I'm wondering what you'd think those motivations would be, as you're certainly speculating re: Wilgy. I figure you'd do it for both




Although! There is a player it does make sense from, and it rhymes with SchmaggedSchmimmySchmay
by falcon45ca
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
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Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:17 pm @falcon45ca please me a single read other than “Jay is mafia”.

Sure




moto & Simon both can be Maf. I don't think they both necessarily are, but really the only engagement I've noticed is responding to tags & quotes w/ answers that seem more about fulfilling the need to answer, rather than actually trying to solve & move the game forward




I think Epi is town? But really he's a hard read for me, I will say he's more involved than I normally associate w/ his scum game, ergo town for now





Long Con's approach strikes me as genuinely trying to solve, and his reads don't come across as throwaways, but rather the result of a logical process. I wouldn't look there til an F3




TSP there's just a je nais se quoi about his posting tone that just feels natural. I'd say the same is true of sig, tho I've not noticed him ITT as much





And I can't see a reason to TR Lorab






[VOTE: simon] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:34 pm I like that a lot, Long Con.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

This is what I'm talking about when I say you're milquetoast & the flavour of whomever is sitting at the table






I'm trying not to tunnel out of stubbornness as I have a habit of that, but this just reinforces my read on you
by falcon45ca
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:47 am
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:50 pm
sig wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:47 pm Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon.

Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three.

I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases.

It just seems like a really easy way for mafia to redirect the convo and just boom boom boom through civs with a ready made excuse.

Especially since Jay is already setting this up in a way to target low hanging fruit.

Plus, and I’ll keep going back to this, scotty mentioned Jay, Jay was almost voted out and wasn’t, but his counter wagon didn’t flip mafia? I think if you ignore the mech or even just think about it a bit more Jay looks bad.


My tinfoil throw on is Epi/Jay are two mafia members since epi did help swing away from Jay.

If we have 3 I’d consider either Falcon/Simon
You can have generic suspicion of me. Fine. But I do think you bear a responsibility to explain why I would make the single worst mechanical kill on the board. Wilgy, at EOD, explicitly chose to vote for Abigail Sophia over voting for me. He was never in that BTSC. Ever. Killing him is just wrong.

If we're stuck in you killed him so you could say this today world, then we're blundering right back. That stuff never matters.
Of course Wilgy did heavily sus you, as did Scotty.

I don't think it's as cut and dry as you're trying to make it out to be

Taking Wilgy out removes a clear & present danger to Maf Jay, same with Scotty, and NKing outside the AS wagon isn't guaranteed to actually get the extra kill...in fact, since we're looking at lynching a player NOT on AS wagon, it's possible Town could lynch Shingen
This post has sent me ISOing twice now. First time, I was like "Did Scotty really heavily suspect JJJ?" It was not what I remembered, but reading Scotty's ISO showed me the progression from townread to scumlean. So yeah, Scotty suspected JJJ, but "heavily suspect" is an exaggeration when it was a Scum Lean at its lowest point.

Second time, I looked at Wilgy again. Wilgy suspected falcon MORE than JJJ, and tried to shift the vote to him. His suspicion of JJJ was entirely a gut feeling as far as I can tell, contrasting what his head was telling him. If Wilgy "heavily suspected" JJJ, then he would have easily just voted for him and put him in the lead at Day's end.

So, I don't care for falcon's hyperbole here.


Yeah Wilgy sussed me as well, and he also had Jay as SR. I recall Jay & I being his top SRs, or thereabouts.







I also recall Scotty having Jay near the top of his scum list. I did not ISO him, I went from memory






It makes sense then to you that I kill Scotty for TR me, and then I kill Wilgy for SR me...why don't I just kill Wilgy N1? He was sus of me D1 IIRC
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:50 pm
sig wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:47 pm Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon.

Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three.

I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases.

It just seems like a really easy way for mafia to redirect the convo and just boom boom boom through civs with a ready made excuse.

Especially since Jay is already setting this up in a way to target low hanging fruit.

Plus, and I’ll keep going back to this, scotty mentioned Jay, Jay was almost voted out and wasn’t, but his counter wagon didn’t flip mafia? I think if you ignore the mech or even just think about it a bit more Jay looks bad.


My tinfoil throw on is Epi/Jay are two mafia members since epi did help swing away from Jay.

If we have 3 I’d consider either Falcon/Simon
You can have generic suspicion of me. Fine. But I do think you bear a responsibility to explain why I would make the single worst mechanical kill on the board. Wilgy, at EOD, explicitly chose to vote for Abigail Sophia over voting for me. He was never in that BTSC. Ever. Killing him is just wrong.

If we're stuck in you killed him so you could say this today world, then we're blundering right back. That stuff never matters.

Of course Wilgy did heavily sus you, as did Scotty.






I don't think it's as cut and dry as you're trying to make it out to be







Taking Wilgy out removes a clear & present danger to Maf Jay, same with Scotty, and NKing outside the AS wagon isn't guaranteed to actually get the extra kill...in fact, since we're looking at lynching a player NOT on AS wagon, it's possible Town could lynch Shingen






[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:24 pm
sig wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:21 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:40 pm gonna state the obvious and say if Jay is a wolf and is leading the game in posts by such a huge amount and then made a crazy gambit NK just to attempt to clear himself that’s very good play and far better than people typically think of his wolf range and I can’t be too upset about losing to it
I could see it, but it’s also based off who his partners are.

Who would make said crazy gambit with him?

My biggest issue with Jay right now is it seems like he’s more setting up votes rather than trying to solve.

Even in this phase he’s floated epi/Moto, is laying ground work for voting off me after the hard claim Ect.

I don’t think we should blindly clear off of mechish reasoning or delve too deep into WIFOM.
it's been a bit hard to solve particularly around the kids and a bunch of people who have had somewhat limited thread impact, especially now that we're taking epi and LC as clears (I think a bit? prematurely) and moving from there. Do I think Jay should be looking into epi/lc? yeah, I do. Epi's a very good player but he's not typically as mechanically minded. His strong preference would be to play the game straight and not worry about the situation. If his partner were, say, Moto -- well, there'd be no one on the team who'd have a strong inclination towards making "correct" kills.

Mindmeld
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:27 am
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:24 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:19 am I didn’t backpedal my suspicion of Epi/moto when Epi responded. I moved on when I discovered better evidence. I doubt Epi makes a bad kill too. I am less sure than with Tony, but I doubt it. And I don’t really see moto as mafia without Epi.

Evidence? I'd like to hear what the "evidence" actually is, and I do appreciate the euphemism in the bolded bit
We spent an hour discussing that evidence last night. Do you understand why DrWilgy is a poor kill choice? Don’t give me the conspiracy theory wifom crap (exactly why I don’t gambit), and look at the facts.

Hmmmm...OK




[VOTE: moto] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:31 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:08 pm One thing I will say and then refuse to expand on. Anyone is free to explore for themselves though.

DrWilgy is a strange kill following Abigail Sophia's flip.
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:10 pm Please do not inform the mafia if they do not already know.
Does it matter after today?
Sure, if it results in double-kills.
I don't think it's a good strategy to avoid discussing something like that, because I doubt it's likely they don't know.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:16 pm Could be, I dunno. The Wilgy kill suggests that at the very least, they don't have a grip on how to achieve that bonus.

If Tony is a civilian he is going to hate this conversation.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:19 pm Who's most likely to miss this critical factor and make a bad mechanical kill?

falcon - maybe I guess, he's only kinda here
LoRab - could be, has missed a ton
motobot - could be, new to mechanical problems like this
Simon - could be, new to mechanical problems like this
sig - maybe I guess, he's only kinda here
Long Con - less likely
Epignosis - less likely
Tony - almost certainly not
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:22 pm I mean, by that logic, we have a POE of five. I still think Epi's sons look like civilians. So...

falcon, LoRab, sig

How do we feel about that?

And then of course, he does expand





Is this the stranglehold of which Jay warned he'd do as Maf...he's literally doing it to us right in front of our eyes
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:16 pm Radical theory:

Epignosis and motobot are mafia. Scotty only gave them soft town reads, so they killed him. Wilgy explicitly suggested they’re a tinfoil theory of his, so they killed him.

It’d also explain why this whole game has felt like ass.
What is this happy horseshit?

We killed Scotty because he said we're good? We killed Wilgy because he said we're bad?

You need a new Magic 8 Ball.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:16 pm Radical theory:

Epignosis and motobot are mafia. Scotty only gave them soft town reads, so they killed him. Wilgy explicitly suggested they’re a tinfoil theory of his, so they killed him.

It’d also explain why this whole game has felt like ass.
What is this happy horseshit?

We killed Scotty because he said we're good? We killed Wilgy because he said we're bad?

You need a new Magic 8 Ball.
He said you're less good than anyone else said you were.

I probably do need a new Magic 8 Ball. Doing my best here.
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:00 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:55 pm Town reads:
Tony
Simon
Falcon
Wilgy

Townlean:
Moto
Epi

Scumlean:
JJJ
Long con

SCUMREAD:
Princess Abbi

TALK MORE:
Lorab
Sig
Abbi sophia
Referring to this, to be clear.
I could just as easily (more easily) say "JJJ and LC" killed Scotty. It'd be a less radical theory. :nicenod:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:02 pm Talk to me about why you specifically tied me with moto in your scenario rather than Long Con.
Because Wilgy said it, and I had thought about it at least once prior. You and motobot fit together like a glove if I ignore the things that make you look like civilians on your own. I have no good reason to say that about Long Con and motobot. It's also possible, just not as overt.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:02 pm I could just as easily (more easily) say "JJJ and LC" killed Scotty. It'd be a less radical theory. :nicenod:
That's similar to what I was just discussing with LC.

We might need a radical theory. Generic theories are 0 for 2, and I have zero confidence about staying the course.

If this constitutes as evidence, no wonder OJ wasn't found guilty
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:19 am I didn’t backpedal my suspicion of Epi/moto when Epi responded. I moved on when I discovered better evidence. I doubt Epi makes a bad kill too. I am less sure than with Tony, but I doubt it. And I don’t really see moto as mafia without Epi.

Evidence? I'd like to hear what the "evidence" actually is, and I do appreciate the euphemism in the bolded bit
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Nearly 300 posts before D3 is even half over, and you want us to believe that if you were Maf you'd have a stranglehold on the thread.




You do
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:05 am @falcon45ca, what’s milquetoast is grabbing any reference to Wilgy and saying “is this why Wilgt was killed?”

Snore

Ah, strawman argument




It's not "any reference to Wilgy", it is one specifically where he mentions you being wolfy, and that he states he needs your flip to solve





You're literally mulling over Wilgy's reads for NKA, and that same read has you being A: scum, and B: requiring a flip to solve





You are bland sir. Flavourless on your own. I noticed you backpedaled your SR on Epi & moto once Epi pushed back. You've done that several times w/ several players IIRC
by falcon45ca
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:31 pm Thoughts before the kids pull me away again.

My brain has observed a pattern with Jay that appears wolfy. I will probably require a flip to solve. Do I push for said flip and vote there or allow the opportunity for a Jay solve that's often highly beneficial for town?

Probably should yeet Falc.

No other thoughts.

Oh, Sig is probably town.

I don't really remember much else from my skin so what I advised from D1 still applies.
Just mulling over Wilgy reads for the sake of night kill analysis. It's unlikely he was killed for the right reason, so we can examine the wrong reasons (e.g., feeling threatened or something similar).

Is this why Wilgy was killed?





You are still milquetoast bud. The flavour of whomever is posting with you at the time.






And so, since you are neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth






[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Did we get Maf?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:17 pm Ah, well you've said it about myself in a game we played together last year

Do you now feel it's an inaccurate description of how I play?
I'm sure you do that sometimes. Everyone does that sometimes.

Why are you voting for me?

I think you're Maf

You talk about a stranglehold on the thread...what does that mean?

Does it mean you'd have near or over 200 posts by D2? Cuz that's what's happened
What I mean is that I would have zero votes on me, because I'd be adhering to everyone's generic cookie cutter impression of my "meta" by being assertive, making cases, being extensively analytical all game instead of just today, and I would have achieved this with fewer than 200 posts. I would exhibit no turbulence. I would be a beacon of self-assurance and strategic soundness. People would look up to me instead of telling me that they don't believe in my methods. People would find warmth under my gaze instead of saying I'm "demotivated".

That's all so damned easy in a game like this. I could do it with my eyes closed. I have many times.

If I am a goofy floppy mess, it's because I am not in control and cannot take it by force. That only comes from my civilian body. This is complete truth, but nobody I know nobody cares. WIFOM is too scary, and we don't have the courage to acknowledge that it's probably legitimate.

You've made many reads based off meta, and I asked you about that earlier




Now you're referring to your own meta and asking us to read you based off it





I recall a game you were scum in last year, and I sussed you due to your milquetoast posting






You're doing the same thing this game as well






You're the flavour of whoever is currently sitting at the table, you have no spice of your own
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:17 pm Ah, well you've said it about myself in a game we played together last year

Do you now feel it's an inaccurate description of how I play?
I'm sure you do that sometimes. Everyone does that sometimes.

Why are you voting for me?

I think you're Maf





You talk about a stranglehold on the thread...what does that mean?





Does it mean you'd have near or over 200 posts by D2? Cuz that's what's happened
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
You haven't given a single read on me since early-mid Day 1 when you said I am "prolly town".

You've said before that it's clear my reads evolve outside of the thread





Now you are surprised by it
I said that about Tony.

Ah, well you've said it about myself in a game we played together last year






Do you now feel it's an inaccurate description of how I play?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:15 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
You haven't given a single read on me since early-mid Day 1 when you said I am "prolly town".

You've said before that it's clear my reads evolve outside of the thread





Now you are surprised by it
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:49 pm
motobot wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:31 pm So I agree with Epi, I don't think you noticed anything.
I only noticed that you didn't post much in Pyre (similar to Don't Starve), and that was true. You were a civilian in Pyre, so I know that "being quiet" doesn't necessarily mean you have evil intentions.

I don't have any real suspicion of you right now.

He came in quick, knowing he was voted. Snap voted you, then went to bed





And now that you don't suspect him and TR him, he's gonna give you a top TR as well




He's given a 50/50 read on Simon, prolly the least controversial read of all time





How different was his Maf game? Cuz this all seems pretty surface level stuff that I'd imagine many and most players could perform as any faction
This is the only post of Falc where I'm like "maybe there's some town intent by this review? But there's no conclusion.

T Falc trusts no one and throws votes like bread to pigeons. That's just not happening this game.

People change dude, and there's plenty of town games where I change my reads on players, and plenty of maf games where I vote folks like crazy
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:02 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

LoRab wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:28 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:07 am I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that.

For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote?

I am confident that either Lorab will engage, which is why I tagged them...






Or they won't. In which case I'm more than happy to see them flip
If you read my posts, you’ll see I was working pretty much the entirety of the weekend, which is why I didn’t post much. You can also see that I’ve been engaging as I catch up from Jewish holiday madness. But happy to engage with you if you give me something to engage about.

Also, she/her. (I have no issue being called they, and appreciate people not assuming gender, but in case you were wondering)

That's fair, and I appreciate the response
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

motobot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:15 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:38 am @Simon @motobot @Abigail Sophia

I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.
All I have to say is I wouldn't be surprised if Epi was Mafia.

If that is all you have to say about Epi, how about some other players?





What's your take on JJJ?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:28 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:07 am I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that.

For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote?

I am confident that either Lorab will engage, which is why I tagged them...






Or they won't. In which case I'm more than happy to see them flip
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:50 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:40 amIt's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you
Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?
Essentially never. Bullshitting reads and chasing false suspects is very easy. Looking the part is very easy. Being typical is very easy.

You've got over 170 posts, and you're making it sound as tho you've not had suspects or reads
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 20802

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:40 amIt's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you
Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:34 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:29 pm Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game

Man finds the task to be a... struggle

Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible

We're playing Mafia. We sure are.

Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?
Certainly not. This game.

It's D2.






I find this mentality atypical of you
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:19 am
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab Who else is on your team?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:14 am
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:05 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 am
Epignosis wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:10 am He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Image
Do you?

He defeated a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin, you bet yer ass I do
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:02 am
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:29 pm Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game

Man finds the task to be a... struggle

Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible

We're playing Mafia. We sure are.

Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 am
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

Epignosis wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:10 am He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Image
by falcon45ca
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:56 am
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:41 am DrWilgy's Day 1 suspicion of Tony and falcon might be the most important thing in the game to sort. I would really like to know where all three stand on each other right now.

@DrWilgy, @TonyStarkPrime, @falcon45ca

TSP is prolly town, Wilgy is prolly who the fuck knows
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:01 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:51 pm MORE IMPORTANTLY, it's time for a pfp update.

Digimon, League, Cosmere, Pokemon, Yugioh or Final Fantasy?
FF
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:59 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

Most def. Why do you doubt?
because too many non players will result in an inability to yeet players that at least have a pulse.

This seems like a very vague concern given it's D1






Are you suggesting we start lynching slankers?






What's your read on JJJ
We would need to eventually, makes me of the opinion that if we go the slanky rout PAbigail or Simon are correct. PAbigail has been chosen by the thread and I see nothing wrong with this.

Well then it's not eventually, it's currently...so why the concern





Also, JJJ. What is your take ?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:51 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:36 pm falcon does have some limp fish energy, yes.

This is libel
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:51 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

Most def. Why do you doubt?
because too many non players will result in an inability to yeet players that at least have a pulse.

This seems like a very vague concern given it's D1






Are you suggesting we start lynching slankers?






What's your read on JJJ
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:25 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

[VOTE: simon] aubergine
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:25 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

Most def. Why do you doubt?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:28 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:15 pm @falcon45ca, I only see one concrete read among your 28 posts (suspicion of motobot). You've asked many questions, so where are you landing at this point?

I feel fine to call you town, TSP, scotty for now






I'm fine to vote Abby, enough folks find her sus that it can't be just wolves pushing that narrative






Simon is also a fine option
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:56 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:48 pm A more courageous set of reads, still one-two town reads short of a locked game if it's correct. The reads here are basically just "yes" and "no" binary with no further nuance.

Epignosis
DrWilgy
Scotty
TonyStarkPrime
motobot


falcon45ca
Princess Abigail
LoRab
Long Con
sig
Abigail Sophia
Simon

Are you declaring war on Epi's kids? I'm pretty sure you've got 7 of them in your scum reads




Talk to me about Simon & Abi Sophie plz
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:41 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm You could also be Maf
I could be a sentient Fig Newton with three butts.

OK, just cuz you've got a PhD doesn't mean I'm gonna believe everything you say
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:38 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm I don't think Tony is a good vote.

Did you feel he used to be, once upon a thread?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:19 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm Wait, how many kids does Epi have and how many are in this game?
oh…falcon, I’m sorry, you didn’t know?

You’re his 22nd eldest child. I’m his 27th.

We are all his children

So this is what the Red Pill tastes like
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:16 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:35 pm Let it be known that although I don’t think JJJ is a good D1 pick right now, I don’t exactly town read him- he’s like an Arnica gel. Could be effective, if you just believe hard enough.

Parse that, detectives.

Insert ninjakick.jpg

What is Arnica gel?






Don't make be Ask Jeeves yo






Also, JJJ is prolly town right now
Arnica is a money-sink placebo-like supplement of essential oil stuff that my mom won’t stop buying and gifting me to help control weight loss/stop cancer/brush teeth/enrich life.

I’m still not sold on JJJ being town. He will sort himself

Send me some, my teeth are getting chubby
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

Wait, how many kids does Epi have and how many are in this game?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:53 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:34 pm Ok update I’ve read P_Abi posts and I now think she’s a fine vote
What's your fav wolfy post by the Princess?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:50 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:32 pm Dichotomy between falc and tsp wtf

The most obvious one I can think of is you have a suit made of iron, and I have feathers n' fragile bones
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:23 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:09 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:16 pm I think Falc has had the opportunity to move the thread, chosen not to.

This at the same time also assists some of the dichotomy between Falc/TSP and Jay's commentary on said dichotomy.

I've had gigs the last 2 nights and hockey, I'm tired and a wee bit beat up physically
Fine. You get a single day pass presuming you can offer a better option.

Howse 'bout Moto?
No, Epi saying Moto is unlikely W is more than enough for them to be placed on a 'sort later' list.

How towny do you find Epi?
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:22 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:49 pm
motobot wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:31 pm So I agree with Epi, I don't think you noticed anything.
I only noticed that you didn't post much in Pyre (similar to Don't Starve), and that was true. You were a civilian in Pyre, so I know that "being quiet" doesn't necessarily mean you have evil intentions.

I don't have any real suspicion of you right now.

He came in quick, knowing he was voted. Snap voted you, then went to bed





And now that you don't suspect him and TR him, he's gonna give you a top TR as well




He's given a 50/50 read on Simon, prolly the least controversial read of all time





How different was his Maf game? Cuz this all seems pretty surface level stuff that I'd imagine many and most players could perform as any faction
by falcon45ca
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:14 pm
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Re: Kagemusha (D1)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:10 pm motobot is probably my top town read in the game.
Oh no, your brain has been abducted by aliens
While I respect that it may be difficult to see on the surface, I am comfortable with this read. motobot looks nothing like he did in the Don't Starve game, and I believe there is an authentic process at work in his approach to the game. I understand where he is coming from and what he is doing.

Oh, it's meta





I've noticed several meta reads from you thus far. How reliable do you feel meta is in general?

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