The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:10 pm OK.

MissC and Pao are very good partner equity.
yeh I agree

I figure MissC

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:10 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:09 pm The vote was a tie between DrWilgy and Porscha. The execute has been randomized onto DrWilgy. He was Homulily (Mafia Goon). Night 2 starts now.

LOOOOOOOL
Yes!

Mac’s last second shift change is lol.

If he's Wilgy's partner, why not bury Porscha?

OK.

MissC and Pao are very good partner equity.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:01 pm I had been planning this all day tbh and ya blew it boys.
How dare you vote the almighty Gavial!

I'm honestly very close to donating money to the eradication of the Gavial animal, both wild and in captivity, as well as the destruction of their habitats & homelands.

Do we know how ties are resolved?

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:11 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
if wilgy is mafia there's the partner
Yeah I’m honestly thinking it’d be Falcon as well.

Pretty sure he's talking about MissC here

Got a gig tonight, won't be around EOD. I'll be around until I'm not

Wilgy/Pao feel good to me for a wagon race

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:23 pm 5-6h till EoD.
To be honest. Lynching me would yield no result.
You can lynch me tomorrow if Porsha flips town.
I don't feel too good about DrWigly. There seemed to be little to no resistance at all which I don't like.
Scum! falcon might be saving his teammate Porsha. Regardless of her POE. Mafia only needs 2 ML, 3 NK to win.

This is just so wolfy. I don't know if I've ever heard town really make these kind of statements all that often.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:36 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:11 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:20 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:18 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:22 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:21 am
Where?
I voted you because Mac was calling you confirmed scum and I wanted to smite him in the face.
Now he’s trying to turn you against me, classic scum deception right there!
This however I mixed up CRichard and Mac and I apologies.

But I’ll say this.
CRichard did you even look why? Did you see I wanted to shove in Mac’s face his solve is completely wrong(
You wanted to show up Mac in case Paopan flips town. Though I have to wonder why you'd vote on Paopan if you're sure they're town.
Still, I have Paopan as unaligned with everyone except Wilgy.
I don't think DrWigly is a good lynch for today. I mean for sure let's lynch DrWigly.
But if he flips town, are you ready to take the L the next day?
Interesting
quite

It's not the only time Pao mentions being on a mislynch wagon having a punishment of being lynched the next day...despite mislynching Sig themselves. It also strikes me as a bit TMI on Wilgy's flip

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:35 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 am I am very suspicious of Porsha. He/she won't vote makes me deduce he/she is a low lying scum.
I am okay to change my vote onto her.
Do you feel this is a strong targeting of Porscha? Do you feel responsible for their wagon?

Why are you avoiding Wilgy? You had them as top scum partner w/ Porscha, yet seem reticent to vote there
I don't see why this is a problem tbh. Pao is pushing who they think is scum, their votes are consistent with their reads.

Go thru their ISO, their reads have been wishy washy on Wilgy and they voted Sig.

I'm very OK w/ Pao flip

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:12 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:40 am sorry mac you and gav are heading to f3 have fun
Would also like to petition this to the Mafia team

And then there's this....which TMI's Mac as town

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:50 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 am 2 mafia not 3... you trying to derp clear yourself here?
Not the kind of reaction I would expect from a town's perspective.

There's this

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:26 pm Ok. I have changed my decision.
Instead of relying on the hand of God. I'll vote for DrWigly.
Hope he flips beta wolf.

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 am I am very suspicious of Porsha. He/she won't vote makes me deduce he/she is a low lying scum.
I am okay to change my vote onto her.

Interesting progression

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:11 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:20 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:18 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:22 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:21 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?
Where?
I voted you because Mac was calling you confirmed scum and I wanted to smite him in the face.
Now he’s trying to turn you against me, classic scum deception right there!
This however I mixed up CRichard and Mac and I apologies.

But I’ll say this.
CRichard did you even look why? Did you see I wanted to shove in Mac’s face his solve is completely wrong(
You wanted to show up Mac in case Paopan flips town. Though I have to wonder why you'd vote on Paopan if you're sure they're town.
Still, I have Paopan as unaligned with everyone except Wilgy.
I don't think DrWigly is a good lynch for today. I mean for sure let's lynch DrWigly.
But if he flips town, are you ready to take the L the next day?

Interesting

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 am I am very suspicious of Porsha. He/she won't vote makes me deduce he/she is a low lying scum.
I am okay to change my vote onto her.

Do you feel this is a strong targeting of Porscha? Do you feel responsible for their wagon?

Why are you avoiding Wilgy? You had them as top scum partner w/ Porscha, yet seem reticent to vote there

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
As disengaged as I feel, oddly enough I have the 4th most posts and accidentally skipped my 69th post stop

#hyperwilgy

Oh snap he on a comeback

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:56 pm Town: falcon, Mac, Gav, MissC

Null: MightyQ

POE: CR, Pao, Porscha, Wilgy
Your POE and vote don't match? How's that?

I am voting you and you are in my POE.

Whatchoo talkin' bout' Willis?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

Somewhat concerned I'm giving MissC too much town cred. Anyone else have thoughts on the slot?

Town: falcon, Mac, Gav, MissC

Null: MightyQ

POE: CR, Pao, Porscha, Wilgy

Wagons feel good. I'll be shocked if we don't have 1 Maf between the 3

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:02 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 am Paopan can be town if Porscha/MightyQ have at least one wolf, as proposing to wagon them feels unaligned from where I'm at.
This makes sense.
Then why aren't you voting Porscha?
I would vote Porscha if I didn't think there were more wolfy players. I'm pretty much sold on Gav or Pao being wolf though, flipping Pao would resolve that 50/50, and maybe if we have more time post flip we can clear out the MightyQ/Porscha 50/50.

Halfway with my catchup and I'm still leaning into Gav/Porscha or MightyQ. IF I am incorrect and it's Pao, then It's not Porscha or Mighty Q (and that's mostly with what I take away from CR's post).
OMG here we go again.
Gotta be a wolf on the day 1 ML wagon right?

I mean, you're voting for Wilgy, who was on the ML wagon.

So, was there a wolf on the ML wagon? You tell me

[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:02 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 am Paopan can be town if Porscha/MightyQ have at least one wolf, as proposing to wagon them feels unaligned from where I'm at.
This makes sense.

Then why aren't you voting Porscha?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:50 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:49 am I don't really see Wilgy pushing or hunting. If anything, I'd describe his play as stirring...just mixing about thread stuff that's already here, doesn't really feel as though he's contributing all that much to the game state
Fair, I haven't been here.

Thank you for your reads. Do you want to vote Pao?

I would vote Pao

I don't really see Wilgy pushing or hunting. If anything, I'd describe his play as stirring...just mixing about thread stuff that's already here, doesn't really feel as though he's contributing all that much to the game state

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:38 am Wilgy wagon looks pure, not so sure about Porscha.

That's why my vote is on Wilgy over Porscha
Care to fill me in on the Porscha wagon while I'm catching up?

I've got reservations about Pao & CR.

While I find Gav extremely aggravating, I'm pretty sure he's town.

Wilgy wagon looks pure, not so sure about Porscha.

That's why my vote is on Wilgy over Porscha

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

You don't listen to anyone, you're impossible to discuss the game with, you're tunneling players w/ 0 regard for thread health, and you lead a wagon on a 0 poster...which IMO effectively eradicates any claim you make re: trying to solve this game

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:10 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:08 pm I don't think Wilgy and Crichard make sense as a team. I think they are very likely t/w in some way.
Why didn’t Wilgy vote CRichard then?
1. Wilgy didn't vote a lot of people
2. Why did CRichard vote Wilgy?
3. Wilgy voted to save himself
4. Why didn't everyone else vote CRichard?
5. Why don't you ask him?
I explained 2.
As for 1, no shit I didn’t vote allot of people either just a couple.
3, yes but he waited before he saved himself.
4, Because he wasn’t the only one up on the chop because he isn’t open caught scum?
5, Meh.

Also Mac can you explain why both Falcon AND Wilgy is voting me?
I think Falcon is trying to pocket Wilgy tbh.
I think the team is Falcon/CRichard.

Well, I can't speak for Wilgy, but I just want you out of the game.

You are stifling and suffocating this game. Beelzebub dude. You're driving this town into the ground

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:12 pm You know what, fuck MightyQ for now he isn’t worth the yeet he is not gonna give us that much information only a little bit more then that of Sig.

You know what, I need to vote the man that I single handedly removed from the chop yesterday.
I’ll also say I was hoping Mac voted that man because I would have considered him Obvious Town if he had both him and Wilgy instead of the stupid “Kill all of Sig’s voters” plan that’s absolutely horrific.

The "Kill All Sig Voters" Plan is actually 10X better than the "Lynch the 0 Poster" Plan

The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in this game

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:15 am I'm imagining a night chat where they would want to kill LC and would try for a mislynch Gavial.
In any case, I don't see two mafias working under a wolfpack condition on day 1.

The only people who would hugely benefit from the n1 kill LC is Mac, Crich, falcon, DrWigly, or MightyQ

I don't benefit if someone Town Cores my slot and dies.

This read is terrible

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:54 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:50 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:25 am I really do stuck at the early stages of the game. But I'm seriously considering starting a new train on Porsha and MightyQ even though it's soo bad.
Why is it so bad?

You voted a 0 poster, how would it be worse than that?
Because Mac is death tunnelled on the Sig wagon thinking it couldn’t possibly contain all town when it clearly can.

Beelzebub dude.

You are seriously ruining this game. Shut the fuck up.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:25 am I really do stuck at the early stages of the game. But I'm seriously considering starting a new train on Porsha and MightyQ even though it's soo bad.

Why is it so bad?

You voted a 0 poster, how would it be worse than that?

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:20 pm That's an interesting kill.
I should look at how LC was treated by the thread, as I had them as town in my legacy.

Wolfy

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:13 pm Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR

POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

Actually, get rid of the Null.

CR goes to Probably, Porscha goes to POE

Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR

POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

If Gav's solve is so good, surely he'll be NKd.

There's no way Maf will do town that favour tho

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:51 pm Save myself out of a tie.

Fair.

Gav, MightyQ, Pao is a good POE for this RD

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:10 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:13 am It ain’t even voting phase and you be saying you wanna PL me.

Mac is definitely scum with either Falcon or CRichardZ
Dude, you voted Mac with your very 1st post of the game, and haven't let up. You've got no leg to stand on as far as "policy lynching" goes.

You're playing the way you did in Beelzebub, where you drove town into the ground and hard defended scum.

You are anti town this game, regardless of your alignment
Yeah I voted him and didn’t respond very well to it if you didn’t notice.

If he town told I wouldn’t be still on him about now but I see nothing absolutely nothing mac has done that makes him town about a heck of allot that makes him wolf.

C’mon Falcon go ahead.
What makes Mac Town hmm?

If he was Maf, he wouldn't have pushed Wilgy the way he did.

He also didn't hard push a 0 poster w/ the argument "50/50 chance if being Maf, JJJ could sub in to a Maf role"

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:39 pm Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac

This list lines up with my own pretty closely.

Why did you vote Sig?

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:13 am It ain’t even voting phase and you be saying you wanna PL me.

Mac is definitely scum with either Falcon or CRichardZ

Dude, you voted Mac with your very 1st post of the game, and haven't let up. You've got no leg to stand on as far as "policy lynching" goes.

You're playing the way you did in Beelzebub, where you drove town into the ground and hard defended scum.

You are anti town this game, regardless of your alignment

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

I don't care if he's Maf or not, he's actually more in his town range.

If he's left alive, he'll cause more harm than good.

Wilgy lookin very sus rn

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:09 pm A 0 poster? Wow

Just wow
What if I said this post here makes you have the biggest chance out of everyone here to be aligned with the zero poster.
What would you say?

I'd say you know jack & squat about chances

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:06 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:05 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:00 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:00 pm 9 town 2 mafia

Everyone is Akemi Homura.

Town = Moemura
Mafia = Homulily

No excessive AtE. Follow the usual mafia rules.

48/24. Open nights.

EOD at 10pm EST

@sig
@MacDougall
@Lime Coke
@Paopan
@CRichard
@Miss Carousel
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@Gavial
@Porscha
@MightyQ
eod is in an hour
Yeah but the polls closed lol.
well shit

this kill sucks

if we completely randomly hit a wolf cool

but this kill sucks

Agreed

A 0 poster? Wow

Just wow

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:42 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:29 pm I think while it’s probable you can be scum CRichard based on your thread presents RN, I think Mac is more likely scum and Sig has a 50/50 chance plus his slot is basically useless RN.
it is literally not a 50/50 chance. that is not how the math works lol

No doubt. Gav's strategy is absolutely anti-town

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