The Syndicate

Gav, Pors still town for me.

MissC/CR

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:57 pm Sig got heat what?!?
Lol, idk if you can call my EoD push on him “heat”.

Agreed, Sig was like a last minute thing. Wilgy was pressured all day

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

I thought that Wilgy's final vote was on Sig?

Do we have the final vote count from D1?

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:23 pm With Wilgy getting considerable heat D1, it's very possible that the other Maf was placed for deepwolf, since winning in an F3 would be their only option if Wilgy got flipped.
Except Wilgy got less votes than Sig and myself.
I'd argue that if anything Sig and I got more heat, though sure if you say so.

Hmmmmm

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:23 pm With Wilgy getting considerable heat D1, it's very possible that the other Maf was placed for deepwolf, since winning in an F3 would be their only option if Wilgy got flipped.
If that’s the case then who would be in that position since D1?

MissC & CR, and yourself to a lesser degree

With Wilgy getting considerable heat D1, it's very possible that the other Maf was placed for deepwolf, since winning in an F3 would be their only option if Wilgy got flipped.

I need to go thru Wilgy's ISO

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:21 pm C’mon Falcon, I double doggy dare yeah to kill me tonight!

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:13 pm Is it me?
Do I die tonight Falcon?

Or am I your secret ML?

Unfortunately, I don't have the power to kill you at night.

My guess for the NK would be Porscha, CR (if town)

Hmmmm

Well, let's see who flips tonight.

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:17 pm Vote falcon tomorrow.
I'm 100% sure he is going to push MightyQ

Well, I've said you're both in my solve, so obviously if you're town I'll pursue MightyQ. This is not a grand revelation

CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:55 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:48 pm There voting could have definitely been better but that’s just bad not wolfy.

They have said things, even to Mac that comes across as Townie.
Then explain the vote on Sig ensuring that they went over rather than DrWilgy.

Feels like Pao has abandoned the game after their last desperate call for a 3 way RNG.

Like a Hail Mary play by a Wolf

I feel the Pao wagon is pure.

Porscha & CR seem pretty solid town IMO. Same with Gav & MissC.

I do think we've got the wolf between Pao & MightyQ.

If it's not between them, I'd look between MissC & Gav. That's several RDs away, and I'm not looking there right now at all.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:42 pmIt's quiet
Nice!
Would you like to take this quiet time to respond to some of my posts?

Not really.

It's quiet

Here are my ISO's of 3 games in which I was scum:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 813&t=2118

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 4&sr=posts

search.php?author_id=813&t=2210

Pao wanting a 3 way tie is completely anti-town No town should want a 3 way tie, that gives a 2/3 chance of a mislynch. It's absurd, and it's wolfy

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:11 am MightyQ
Gavial
Porsha
Crich
falcon
MC

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:17 am To be honest. Regardless of alignment
I would never kill both players as the interaction of both amuses me since the beginning of this game. I love having both players up the very late stages of the game.
It goes against my principles on killing the interesting players. As I have shown in my day 1 actions.
I would rather lynch AFK/low-poster, unsolvable town player instead of a scumleaning one because of their d1 statements.

That's all for today.
Hope this statement clears me from your scum list (except to MC and Falcon).

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:07 pm As for MightyQ. I'll bet you he's town. But whatever his alignment is...
What an utterly ridiculous waste of space for town .
The guy hasn't even like voted someone in the entirety of this game.

One of these things is not like the other

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:50 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:50 pm @MacDougall
@Paopan

What you two thinking?
Is CRichard and Por for sure clear?

CRichard and Wilgy theoretically could have been doing W/W wagon day 1.
Now with the wagon last day, Paopan called Por scum and voted for them, Wilgy voted for Paopan but then voted for Por to save them self.

Could that be W/W wagon?

What’s more likely?

I wanna say CRichard is the more likely one to not be W/W but I want a second opinion on this.
Por is clear. CRich not yet for me.

Why is Por clear for you here? They were top scum of yours until a 50/50 RNG against Wilgy. What did the do to get clear in your eyes?

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 am I am very suspicious of Porsha. He/she won't vote makes me deduce he/she is a low lying scum.
I am okay to change my vote onto her.

Pushes Porscha a bit after this, but recently hasn't touched the slot at all. What changed?

@MightyQ How do you feel about Pao ranking you as #1 Town?

Do you think you are the Top Town this game? More Town than all the rest?

CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:26 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:25 am @CRichard
Quite honestly this is the best way to solve this.
Don’t vote and let it rand 2v2v2.
Last time we let it rand it hit wolf, so let’s do it again!
I would laugh if we hit the last wolf with a 2nd rand in a row.

Rand w/ 3 players would give Pao (if wolf) only a 1/3 chance of dying. Good odds for a wolf, terrible strategy for town

The only town Pao has are 2 players on my wagon? MightyQ is top town?

Get real

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:16 am Watch in awe as I flip town if majority decides I would be the lynch for today
Can't wait the reaction

Odd.

I'm leading the votes. Gavs not moving off my wagon, you're not moving. MightyQ votes for the 1st time ever, they're not going anywhere.

You seem nervous despite the numerical advantage.

Outrageous ideas?

Whatever you say Pao

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:22 pm why would the wolves not vote together explicitly to save a wolf

No shit. Especially since Wilgy had to join the wagon for a self pres, it's completely possible that a Wolf was already on the wagon.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:11 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:58 pm My POE is voting me?

I am totally shocked.

Which one is the actual wolf? Still think it's between Pao & MightyQ
Lol I became your PoE?
What a shocker!

I was talking about MightyQ and Pao. I've been very clear who is in my POE at this point in the game.

I know you have a desperate need for attention, but not everything is about you.

I will be avoiding future games in which you sign up. That's how much Ive enjoyed playing with you this game.

I've said it several times, this is exactly like Beelzebub, and I blocked you. God I miss that option.

I don't care what you have to say.

FFS you hosted a game once in which I was town, and messaged me about posts in the game I should be responding to and players I should be engaging. I wasn't the only player you were messaging, giving directions on what to react to. Disgusting.

Please just park your vote on me and leave me the fuck alone. I fear you're only capable of one of those things however.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:15 pm Paopan is not wolf, There is absolutely no reason that makes sense for him to be wolf.

So tell me since your so dire to push him as wolf, what’s your reason mister Falcon sir.

Why don't you read the several posts I've made re: Pao?

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:58 pm My POE is voting me?

I am totally shocked.

Which one is the actual wolf? Still think it's between Pao & MightyQ
What does POE even mean?

Process of Elimination

My POE is voting me?

I am totally shocked.

Which one is the actual wolf? Still think it's between Pao & MightyQ

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:38 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:36 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:34 pm gav what do you think the night kills will be
Depends who wolf is.
Falcon won’t kill me if he’s wolf, he’d be too scared.

He would probably go with Por/CRichard.
do you understand how saying things like "falcon won't kill me he's too scared" make you extremely difficult to work with
No.

The first time someone calls you a horse, you call them a jerk.

The second time someone calls you a horse, you call them an asshole.

But the third time someone calls you a horse? You buy a saddle.

You are difficult to work with this game. Take it from MissC, Mac & I

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:36 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:33 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm

It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.
Does Wolf Wilgy make this post before he dies about Town Gav?

Hmmmm
Wasn't Wilgy hard pushing on Gav long before they were about to be eliminated?
If so, then I'm inclined to believe Gav can't be a wolf as Wilgy wasn't in anti spew until they were eliminated at EoD2.
Yeah, but there was no traction at all on a Gav wagon at those times.

Wilgy had wagon action both RDs, his flip was always looming. It would be decent partner distancing if Wilgy flipped
If Gav is town, do we think they get night killed sooner or later?
The only reason I'd flip is to rule out worlds they're the busser or not.
If town, yourself, Gav and Porscha would be the likely NKs, not necessarily in that order.
I have those two as my most confident town reads.
Having up to 4 people in PoE is fun no?
Mind you I have reasons to think you're town and I'm starting to wonder if I'm wrong on MissC being mafia.
Ugh.

I'm of the mind we should wagon race MightyQ and Pao this RD

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:36 pm
MightyQ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:53 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:23 pm
MightyQ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:07 pm Just like sex, vanillia is the best way to play mafia

Change my mind
That's nice, where's your head at on everyone who has posted so far?
I said this the first game I was in and I'll say it again. There's literally no solid evidence out there right now for anyone. I've been at school most of today and am only now really even paying attention. Also last game I was voted out for having this opinon, so go kill me for all I care. My point is town members are expendable, but how you expend them is important.

Youch now that I think about this you probably already know that. I'm tired af rn.
put yourself in the shoes of an inexperienced player who is killed in their previous game for not wanting to give reads. do you:
A. do the exact same thing again
or
B. try to soften or change your play at all

i think B is the obvious correct answer, you don't just come in and do the exact same thing that got you incorrectly killed last game.

if you're an inexperienced player who rands wolf and you're playing with at least one person who was in your last town game do you
A. knowingly play different from your town game
or
B. try and match the exact same thing you did as town and then immediately point it out

again i think more likely B!

MightyQs whole "literally no solid evidence" bit is just gross.

Even if we were in a game w/ PRs, we might not have solid evidence. Lots of PRs don't reveal alignments, it's an absurd reason to not engage the game

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:36 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:33 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 pm Ugh a tie. Do I break the tie by voting Porscha?
It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.
Does Wolf Wilgy make this post before he dies about Town Gav?

Hmmmm
Wasn't Wilgy hard pushing on Gav long before they were about to be eliminated?
If so, then I'm inclined to believe Gav can't be a wolf as Wilgy wasn't in anti spew until they were eliminated at EoD2.
Yeah, but there was no traction at all on a Gav wagon at those times.

Wilgy had wagon action both RDs, his flip was always looming. It would be decent partner distancing if Wilgy flipped
If Gav is town, do we think they get night killed sooner or later?
The only reason I'd flip is to rule out worlds they're the busser or not.

If town, yourself, Gav and Porscha would be the likely NKs, not necessarily in that order.

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 pm Ugh a tie. Do I break the tie by voting Porscha?
It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.
Does Wolf Wilgy make this post before he dies about Town Gav?

Hmmmm
Wasn't Wilgy hard pushing on Gav long before they were about to be eliminated?
If so, then I'm inclined to believe Gav can't be a wolf as Wilgy wasn't in anti spew until they were eliminated at EoD2.

Yeah, but there was no traction at all on a Gav wagon at those times.

Wilgy had wagon action both RDs, his flip was always looming. It would be decent partner distancing if Wilgy flipped

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 pm Ugh a tie. Do I break the tie by voting Porscha?
It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.

Does Wolf Wilgy make this post before he dies about Town Gav?

Hmmmm

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:03 pm I also don't like the MightyQ Wagon.
That feels more like a policy elimination rather than a wagon that has a decent chance of flipping the last wolf.

Agreed.

They're POE, but not the flip for today

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:23 pm I hope I either die or Paopan stays alive before F3.
He’s an easy TR for me I can safely just vote the other guy.

You lynched a 0 poster. You felt Wilgy was a mislynch. You tunneled Mac.

It is a demonstrable fact that your reads this game are not that great. Your "easy TR" of Pao should not be held as gospel by anybody.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:20 pm @MightyQ
Go to the Poll and vote someone you think is wolf please!

Why are you voting MightyQ right now?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:43 pm Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling
And your not capable of working with me so looks like it’s a lose lose situation eh?

Yes I am.

Are you willing to reconsider your read on Pao?

Are you willing to reconsider your read on me?

If the answer to either of those questions is no, then it is you, not I, that is unable to work with others.

@Porscha Where's your head at right now?

@CRichard Got some hawt takes?

Want the game to end already?

We are D3. This has not been a long game.

Watch, now Pao will play off Gav's unwavering town read of him to start a wagon on me.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:57 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.
I feel MissC is town here.
Mmmm. I'm going to change my priority from MC>falcon to falcon>MC because of this remark.
I'm smelling wolf vibes from both MC and falcon. It matters cos I want to end the game already.
while the net has been cast and both can't escape from our inevitable win. Just need some fasten results.
So yeah, i'm high confident that I have already solved this game. Scum is either falcon/MC.
GG

We can't both be wolves.

Totally unsurprising, you feel that the two players sus of your slot are both wolves. Keeping your POE limited to only the players who sus you...super towny

Gav, if I'm Maf, and you're so good at solving, why would I leave you alive?

I know it won't matter tho, you seem quite stuck in your own lil world

It's incredible...Gav has had reads turn out to be completely wrong this game, and yet is still unwilling to reexamine anything.

He won't reevaluate Pao, won't reevaluate me.

Do you know why wolves don't kill you very often Gav? It's because you are destructive to town more often than not.

Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling

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