The Syndicate

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:11 am Syn
SVS
Scotty
nutella
Thunal
Rico
falcon
Epi


I feel pretty solid about the upper half of this list. Nutella I could still see being wrong on, but I'm very content with a townread there for now.

Solve is prolly in Rico, Thunal & I




Or is that too obvious?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:01 pm I'm fine with Syn or Nut this RD

Progression?

aww you think I'm perfect

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:16 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:11 pm @Scotty this is the game where Rico stepped up a lot d3.

viewtopic.php?t=2526

He put in more effort d1 and d2 than he did here, but it was still a huge effort difference once he decided to pick it up.

Lol I even modded that game. I truly don’t even remember it.

So I see the patented, well-formatted breakdowns he did in D1, but outside of that, it seems like a completely different rico. I wonder if he replicates that sort of deepdive thing as bad. I would assume he would just to keep up appearances.

Obviously the idea here is that he just hasn’t had time to devote to this game until just now, I just find the timing fishy.

He did say he went to a concert, but his uptick was in part game motivated regardless because he even said "now there's a shot i kinda wanna play". I think either he was energized by a mafia flip or he was making a last stand effort and I'm leaning the former. I still don't think wolf Rico believes voting Epi is a winning strategy. After doing nothing for 2 phases and being floated often as an elim option, I really doubt he believes he could deepwolf and get 3 mislims.

he didn't do anything all of d1 tho, before any flips to consider

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:43 am I am probably going to vote for Scotty

@Thunal33 I think the seemingly too on the nose hard defense route is actually quite plausible for Epi to take.

On the other hand I also thought the "Syn - purple" was a bad look, not a good one.

It is between the two for sure. I think Scotty feels more like a wolf by play today (and find him overall easier to retrofit as wolf than syn). Plus there was the prior confidence I had on him d2 for... some other reason. And my prior confidence was right on Epi so might as well listen to it again.

It's certainly possible re: the hard defense. About the Syn being purple, it's a small thing that some wolves tend to have a hard time singling out their partner in a readslist but Epi might be willing to do that.

I'm currently leaning that Syn looks worse from recent interactions.

you should vote me then

do I have to start pretending to lolcat to make this happen or something. why is it so hard to reason with you all

any time I explain the thought process it just gets ignored until someone else inevitably chimes in with another case on me (cheers for that rico), proving the thought process correct repeatedly. time that could have been spent on doing something actually useful for town

you even quoted the explanation after this post! are the men in black cornering each and every one with you with a neuralyzer to make you forget my posts right after reading them. is agent j around. can i speak with him

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:44 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:25 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:27 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:08 pm you are indirectly on to something though with the point about epi's capacity: what was epi's goal with his play? was he just inactive and doing his best under the circumstances, or was there a specific intended result in mind?

and with that in mind, and another read of his ISO, I come to the conclusion that...

there doesn't really seem to be a discernible agenda unless the intent was to WIFOM scotty

most of his posting revolved around nutella and scotty, and then banter

multiple, MULTIPLE instances of epi insisting that scotty isn't mafia though

spoilered quotes below

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:19 pm Sorry about the condescension- I’m just kinda disappointed we just lost our PRs with no real trade off and dealing with the fact that there’s nothing to solve any more and I’ve now been tricked into playing a mountainous game. I hate mountainous

Scotty isn't mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:24 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:10 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.

How’s that ‘clearing’ coming?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm

Why did you suspect Scotty here?

One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:45 pm I'm not feeling Epi mafia anymore. I caught him from spec in that game where he was wolf with Delta and he felt different there. Here it feels like he's throwing out takes while there it felt like he had a clear agenda.

Hmmmm
******************
Yo, check this progression:

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm

Slightly good look for Marmot imo.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:12 pm I don't have a scumread and it's frustrating. I feel like it would be a waste to just chop the 1 poster today. I definitely don't want to chop in Scotty, nutella, Syn, Seanzie, or SVS.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:38 pm In case there's any contention, I'd rather Seanzie die than Marmot. Let's hope this is right.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.

I think she forgot who she actually suspected.

I absolutely loathe this post.

At this point we were trying to find a consensus since we had a lot of spread locked votes. If you read other peoples posts from this time frame, everyone in the thread (except Nutella who was kinda mocking us, lol) we ALL were doing this. The people trying to find someone we all could agree on vs the people who wanted to default to Rico.

I kinda pushed her to vote Sean after he had gotten a third vote. He was a null for me.

This is all about how EOD went and zero about progression. Thinal, along with Dizzy, we’re considering Rico.

This usage of what happened at EOD to somehow make a “poor progression” argument on the person least responsible for Sean’s yeet is disingenuous in the extreme to my POV.

I can’t even say how much I hate this.

Too bad that Scotty isn't mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:37 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:14 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 am alright it's cool

epignosis seems like a fine wagon

i would also like thunal to be one

K

[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Scotty/Epi partners? He pays some lip service to a me/Epi team but as soon as Marmot votes Epi, he immediately votes me. I very easily could see this as trying to save Epi.

I'm not mafia. So have fun with that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:32 pm I don't think falcon or Scotty is mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:03 pm I'm finally off work and can put the nutella - Scotty thing in the Viewfinder.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:05 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:09 pm Scotty
Syn

Seanzie
Marmot
Thunal

Dyslexicon
S~V~S

Epignosis
Falcon
Ricochet
Lime Coke


Off the cuff tiers. Still plenty of shifting

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:52 pm Would not vote:
Syn
Seanzie
Scotty
Marmot

Somewhere in between / no firm stance:
Thunal
Dyslexicon
SVS
Epignosis

Would vote:
Lime Coke
Falcon
Rico

nutella seems to like Scotty so far.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:08 pm Okay, on nutella's third page, there's a turn against Scotty.

I don't see it. Sorry nut.

See what?

I don't need you to agree with my thoughts. I just wanted you to see that I had them. Since you had such a shallow understanding of my play.

I mean I have Scotty as a civilian. That's all. I'm sorry I misunderstood.

That (combined with believing Thunal was town) was part of why I took the leap of faith and voted for him. The fact that his entire catchup seemed to be about Scotty bothered me, although what that means for/about Scotty I don't know anymore. It was SO overt, in my Scotty=town mindset, I was viewing it as a set up. I know Epi can be blunt, but Epi can also be subtle, and uses his bluntness as a mask at times.

But as I said, my Scotty reader is totes fucked up, so I'm going to stop arguing either way.

Yeah I can’t defend how Epi talked about me. It was pretty over the top at times with how much he wanted thread to know I was town. Obviously I know it’s a TMI read but can see how suspicious that looks in the most WIFOM-y way.

In my reread, what really stands out (since I know I’m town) was that one quote where he included ‘Scotty and falcon’ as town, since he hadn’t really talked about falcon prior to that. Why did he include falcon in there?

looked at the page from that post and there's no mention of falcon anywhere, in either epi's posts or anyone else's

just that random inclusion

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:08 pm you are indirectly on to something though with the point about epi's capacity: what was epi's goal with his play? was he just inactive and doing his best under the circumstances, or was there a specific intended result in mind?

and with that in mind, and another read of his ISO, I come to the conclusion that...

there doesn't really seem to be a discernible agenda unless the intent was to WIFOM scotty

most of his posting revolved around nutella and scotty, and then banter

multiple, MULTIPLE instances of epi insisting that scotty isn't mafia though

spoilered quotes below

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:13 am Epi iso perusing notes:
-nutella looks really good. Epi calls her mafia D1, and follows through with it on D2 by saying ‘nutella is my top pick to go today’ and then spends time on an actual case on her. You wanna talk about too on the nose, I doubt Epi spends his entire suspicion capacity pushing nutella.

nutella does look good. where i tinfoil her is that EOD really could have been designed in a lab to be a perfect townie turnabout, in a way that feels less emotionally real than SVS's approach

but this is tinfoil. it's "wow that was really good" suspicion. all the hallmarks of a successful flash wagon with a voting method that's anti flash wagon. it's Progression™ and Townie Thought Process™ dialed to 11

one minor nitpick on my end is that epi didn't really make a actual case on her. I mean. he lobbed a few one-liners at a couple quotes of hers. and that was it. "underwhelming tbh" was a very real reaction in the moment, especially since he hyped it up beforehand lol

you are indirectly on to something though with the point about epi's capacity: what was epi's goal with his play? was he just inactive and doing his best under the circumstances, or was there a specific intended result in mind?

again, the purpose would be to drag my slot along to continue being mischop bait up until the very end

because it's mountainous, so it's not a real clear, and there's several other warm bodies that continue to harbor suspicion

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:36 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:04 am Syn, you can try and ignore me, which is your right, but I am trying to look at other options. If you’re town, I *want* to find you so we don’t have to waste a yeet

the wolf wants to "find me" too tbh

obviously the prospect of surviving and chopping the wolf today is a nice one, and it'd be cool if that happened, but I don't have nearly enough confidence in who the last wolf is to balance that against the impact my slot has on town's chances of finding that last wolf, if that makes sense. I genuinely do not see me reversing the impact of my EOD and my interactions with Epi, and the wolf understands the value of a hotly contested villager slot in the lead-up to endgame. If I don't go over today, then tomorrow will have hours spent on the exact sentiment you expressed, "it is probably just syn," and then that mischop leads straight to F3, or, god forbid, someone again goes "I'm gonna vote elsewhere" and then it's my slot in a F3. what are the chances of that going well for town? I am not associated with a minds-winning WIM in the final stretch. it's simply not my strength. my best value is in limiting what the wolf can do with the options available at the moment

So I’m just the wolf, eh?

But you’re not sure I’m the last wolf

I just…I’m trying my man. Obviously you’re putting up a wall with me and so all I can do is shrug. It’s frustrating. Im not trying to convince you I’m not bad, I’m trying to convince myself that you’re not bad, and this little charade isn’t helping.

I’ll let others talk to you and try to form a better picture looking through that window then

stop that lol

re: your color coding, that's not what the red part means. it means that the wolf has a vested interest in keeping me around, so someone town "finding me" is likely more of a help to them than it is to town. if you're the wolf, then yeah, that's what you're doing. if you're not the wolf, then you might be inadvertently helping them

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:26 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:49 am Well that was a fun catch up read.

We have 4 votes in non consensus places (including Falcons). That leaves 8 of us left to vote(and Rico has been AFK) .

For me, the three people that have votes already are off the table. Dizzy and Thunal are off the table for me since I’m townreading them both in addition to agreeing with LC.

I also town read Scotty and Syn.

That leaves my personal voting pool at Epi, Falcon, Marmot, Nutella and Rico.

I think Falcons belief that making more emotionally accurate posts by using qualifying words (for a tone reader like me) is wolfy is a bit old fashioned, but I don’t shade him for suspecting me for it. I’d rather not vote for him and I’d rather not vote for Rico since the only rationale for that would be low poster.

I think Nutella’s reaction was more frustrated than Wolfy. I also think Marmots bad and don’t see them and Nutella bad together.

That leaves, for me, Marmot and Epi. I’d prefer Marmot, but I really don’t want to spread votes too much do will consider others. I will have to vote half hour or so before EOD as I’ll be driving home when the poll ends.

I am in my late 60's

Is your SR of Epi more just a process of who's more towny, or is there something specifically wolfy you're seeing?

He has an activity litmus, and I'm not seeing him as wolf here.

Talk to me about Marmot, & Syn plz

from D1

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:40 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:36 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:11 am Syn
SVS
Scotty
nutella
Thunal
Rico
falcon
Epi


I feel pretty solid about the upper half of this list. Nutella I could still see being wrong on, but I'm very content with a townread there for now.

Solve is prolly in Rico, Thunal & I




Or is that too obvious?

Rico’s vote broke the tie between Thunal and Epi. He yeeted Epi.

So I doubt either of them was Epis partner. I need to read some ISOs. Right now I’m mainly waiting for Scotty.

And happier is good.

OK, Rico I get, but why don't you think Thunal could be partnered with Epi?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:41 pm Also...Rico putting Epi over, but not getting NKd?




If he's actually town, that vote all but green checks him. If he's Maf, it allows him to go deep.




I'm wary to clear them off that

two mostly inactive slots as the wolf team would be a trip

but there's a consideration here where even with rico's magical resurrection, his activity is less than epi's was

it could be a hail mary attempt, I guess

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 pm if everyone is set on the syn/scotty/falcon POE, my interest is in picking who gets flipped after me

falcon looks more blatant than scotty, which makes me hesitate

but I felt similarly with epi and very obviously got burned on that

I am town dude, I don't have the energy level of Maf falcon

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:23 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 pm if everyone is set on the syn/scotty/falcon POE, my interest is in picking who gets flipped after me

falcon looks more blatant than scotty, which makes me hesitate

but I felt similarly with epi and very obviously got burned on that

I am town dude, I don't have the energy level of Maf falcon

is there a noticeable activity difference between alignments for you? does not seem like a tell that would work on you

Like, it's not always? But it's way more common for me to really slank as Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:11 am Syn
SVS
Scotty
nutella
Thunal
Rico
falcon
Epi


I feel pretty solid about the upper half of this list. Nutella I could still see being wrong on, but I'm very content with a townread there for now.

Solve is prolly in Rico, Thunal & I




Or is that too obvious?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:24 pm Linki town Falcon seems more spirited, for lack of a better word lol.

He's happier

are these the hallmarks of a happier, more spirited falcon? would we describe falcon as an active player that gets into the thick of it, or someone who has only placed two vanity votes thus far this game? in 3 days, he's posted less than N1-kill dizzy. he seems to fit his self-described wolf meta

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:04 am Syn, you can try and ignore me, which is your right, but I am trying to look at other options. If you’re town, I *want* to find you so we don’t have to waste a yeet

the wolf wants to "find me" too tbh

obviously the prospect of surviving and chopping the wolf today is a nice one, and it'd be cool if that happened, but I don't have nearly enough confidence in who the last wolf is to balance that against the impact my slot has on town's chances of finding that last wolf, if that makes sense. I genuinely do not see me reversing the impact of my EOD and my interactions with Epi, and the wolf understands the value of a hotly contested villager slot in the lead-up to endgame. If I don't go over today, then tomorrow will have hours spent on the exact sentiment you expressed, "it is probably just syn," and then that mischop leads straight to F3, or, god forbid, someone again goes "I'm gonna vote elsewhere" and then it's my slot in a F3. what are the chances of that going well for town? I am not associated with a minds-winning WIM in the final stretch. it's simply not my strength. my best value is in limiting what the wolf can do with the options available at the moment

me after posting on mafia the syndicate dot com

instead you're musing "it's probably just syn" and trying to nitpick my posts specifically

from a town!scotty perspective, your approach here should be "this POE is 66% wrong" and then figure out where we went wrong

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:33 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:07 am I'll talk to other people but not you lol

I don’t really know what i’m doing that is giving this sort of response Syn. Like I don’t think I’m even being remotely annoying or angry here.

I just want to know point by point why you suspect me so I can better judge if it is in good faith or not.

I like to solve around the attention I get

with respect, the faith quality of my posts doesn't matter. you are not solving me. there is no debate to be had. you aren't hunting me, because i am not a wolf and i am not fighting to survive. like the above post, every minute spent on me is a minute wasted

the poe isn't my creation, other people came up with it first. reasons were given. the faithfulness of my adherence to that poe is essentially white noise. lullaby time

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:06 am Speaking of suicide, not sure what to think, @Syn There are ways to get people to talk about your PoE other than "KILL ME FIRST!!!!!"

It's my experience that people who sacrifice themselves in games to their legacy get ignored more often than not.

It's beginning to get shades of reverse psychology, though. Several people came in here today, saying, "It's syn". And now by asking us to kill you, you may have talked us out of killing you, lol

what is with this disingenuous rewriting of my behaviour today? first scotty, now you? I have poked at ISOs, mused on behaviours, but the only thing that gets brought up is "sacrificial lamb" when I have very clearly explained the logic of my approach and nobody has been able to actually argue against that logic except by throwing shade and mocking me. scotty makes sense why he'd do that, but I don't grok why you would hop on that train as well

"reverse psychology" when it's other people going "hmm maybe I will vote elsewhere actually " which just means if you end up picking someone else, and they flip green, we'll just be back here tomorrow doing this entire "oh maybe it's syn!!!!!" thing again and wasting time until F3. every minute spent being paranoid about me is a minute spent not actually hunting the wolf, and in a mountainous game and with these interactions, it's extremely unlikely that I talk my way back into a solid town read. and the effort required to do so, again, means it's effort not going into finding the wolf.

I have no idea how I can explain the logic better so that people understand it, and it is frankly baffling

stop tinfoiling me. remove "syn could be a wolf after all" from your mind. embrace that I am the pick for today, and solve for who is left with that in mind. it limits the maneuverability of the wolf and completely eliminates an entire avenue of WIFOM and chaos. we have the leeway to make this choice today, but we do not tomorrow. a wolf can do a lot for their own survival if the longevity of my slot is up for debate. remove the debate. force them into navigating a world they are likely uncomfortable with.

pls don't do this to me

I'll talk to other people but not you lol

why you maldin' so badly bruh

I am not fighting with you. you aren't going to convince anyone to vote elsewhere. solve for a world where the game continues after I flip.

"isn't helpful to town" my ass

my approach to this day locks the last wolf into a certain course of action. me going over is a guarantee. there is no casing. there is no arguing. everyone has to spend their time solving with the idea in mind that I will flip green. who is going to try and resist that? who is going to try and set it up so that the POE can expand after I am gone and another voice gets NKed? how will the last wolf try and build a world that sees them alive at f3 with a chance to win?

logically my POE is between you and Falcon, with Nutella as tinfoil potential

my focus is on seeing how you and Falcon interact, seeing who tries to wriggle their way out of it the worst

especially when you gave the good old college try at pushing elsewhere outside the POE, which my approach to this situation very specifically prevents anyone from trying to do

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:01 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:48 pm ha it’s probably just Syn.

If I see his early reads from a wolf perspective, him continually planting his flag on me/thunal as a diff check and just occasionally poking that theory with a stick makes a whole lot of sense. That’s 2 mischops down most likely.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:50 pm Syn’s play today sounds so humble, too. Vibes are this guy:

please stop wasting your time casing me. I am already the chop. assume I'm town and solve what happens after I'm gone

since everyone has checked in, as well, I would not be opposed to being hammered around midday tomorrow once a real POE has been agreed on

What’s your solve? Just laying down like the video I quoted above isn’t helpful to town if you’re actually town.

describing my posting today as just laying down is disingenuous as hell

scotty's approach today looks the worst IMO

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:48 pm ha it’s probably just Syn.

If I see his early reads from a wolf perspective, him continually planting his flag on me/thunal as a diff check and just occasionally poking that theory with a stick makes a whole lot of sense. That’s 2 mischops down most likely.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:50 pm Syn’s play today sounds so humble, too. Vibes are this guy:

please stop wasting your time casing me. I am already the chop. assume I'm town and solve what happens after I'm gone

since everyone has checked in, as well, I would not be opposed to being hammered around midday tomorrow once a real POE has been agreed on

hi

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:16 pm

Again, I want yo hear from Scotty before I even decide what I think, lol.

his iso says he'll be back tonight, so hopefully we won't be waiting too long for that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:11 am Syn
SVS
Scotty
nutella
Thunal
Rico
falcon
Epi


I feel pretty solid about the upper half of this list. Nutella I could still see being wrong on, but I'm very content with a townread there for now.

Solve is prolly in Rico, Thunal & I




Or is that too obvious?

falcon continuing to be contrarian or falcon trying to keep the POE open?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:16 pm I don’t know, Epis main criteria for town reading people was their position on Scotty.

That seems a bit … overt? I mean he was being all bombastic about people shading Scotty at all.

Seems more like setting Scotty up?

Again, I want yo hear from Scotty before I even decide what I think, lol.

both scotty and falcon have fairly blatant associations tbh

(and me of course)

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:56 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:20 pm offhand nutella and I (especially me) look bad from interactions, svs looks good, thunal looks... probably good?

i did not bother thinking about scotty, marmot (RIP), and falcon and decided I'd wait and see what happened SOD first

Sup

Why shouldn't I just snapvote you rn

you should

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 pm if everyone is set on the syn/scotty/falcon POE, my interest is in picking who gets flipped after me

falcon looks more blatant than scotty, which makes me hesitate

but I felt similarly with epi and very obviously got burned on that

I am town dude, I don't have the energy level of Maf falcon

is there a noticeable activity difference between alignments for you? does not seem like a tell that would work on you

if everyone is set on the syn/scotty/falcon POE, my interest is in picking who gets flipped after me

falcon looks more blatant than scotty, which makes me hesitate

but I felt similarly with epi and very obviously got burned on that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:09 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:02 am "I have no opinion about this player, therefore I'll make one up right now"

Yeah falcon could very easily be a wolf.

If I don't have an opinion on a player, then that player is essentially just rand, and rand is far more often town than not




And every player makes up their opinion about other players, whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:35 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:07 am I do like some of falcon's earlier observations and questions. He didn't seem to be rushing conclusions or have an agenda. Some of his later posts on Day 1 seem more like busy work: asking people questions and telling them to explain their reads. That's a bit less good.

Asking questions and explanations of reads is wolfy?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:39 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:21 am look ma I'm #1

I have no opposition to the falcon case

Ah, now this is what wolfy posts look like...sheeping Marmot w/o questioning, or even previously expressing SR on my slot previously...have you?




Am I wolf cuz of the reasons Marmot pointed out? Do you have any thoughts of your own you'd like to add?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:45 am I am reminded of Syn asking questions of myself & Epi, and not seeming to care about the follow up...or whether he even got an answer

level zero read is that falcon's ISO sucks chunks and feels a little too obvious

hold on

looking through nutella's ISO for interactions re: epi

would recommend clicking through to this post and reading down from there for a few posts

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:14 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:19 am Also he just sat on the sidelines when nutella and Lime Coke were going at it.

This is still the thing about Epi that most makes me want to vote him. He was being snarky at me in a way I think could easily have come from TMI on Lime being town.

He's also compatible with Scotty.

(interesting scotty argument, basically. think it looks good for nutella, less good for scotty)

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:01 pm
Of the Epi voters, I have the least cred; I get a little for tying it, but I didn't think he was smoking gun bad, just kinda maybe bad.

not sure this is true. you were paramount for it not being a thunal chop, enough so that it made you look partnered with thunal until the epi flip lol

why would marmot be a falcon kill, Rico? have you been reading along this whole time? je suis confuse

don't mind going over today but from my POV I know that POE is at least 33% wrong so I would stress putting extra thought in where to go after me

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:22 pm I got a message saying I had the Silencing Soulstamp used on me, but I still have a postcap of 30 today.

While a bus is possible, I don't think it's probable in this case. I was onto Epi and the other wolf would know I would look good from his flip and be a lot harder to mislim. It would have been in wolves' best interest to kill me.

a reduction of more than 50% is brutal

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:23 pm damn now that there's a shot I kinda wanna play

is that really why you weren't playing

given epi's activity level and investment, it's not an outside possibility that he was openly bussed/set up

I offer this only as something to chew on in the future in case the strongest town case on someone ends up being "pushed Epi"

I don't think it is relevant today probably

offhand nutella and I (especially me) look bad from interactions, svs looks good, thunal looks... probably good?

i did not bother thinking about scotty, marmot (RIP), and falcon and decided I'd wait and see what happened SOD first

good call on putting epi over instead lol