The Syndicate

i love marmot and want him to father my children

also jack

dolby and naa do be wolfing tho

maybe I should recommit to scum-reading tsp even though it doesn't matter today in any way

urist gives me angina

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:57 am syn has been obviously town but going after him for not dying n1 is crazy.
especially when the reason for why he'd be dying is... for being obvious town. he doesn't stop being obvious town just because he didn't die.

no

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:55 am Syn not Sig. Sorry. I’m leaning on Syn might be town actually
Sig I’ll hopefully know to ihht

why the flip

i have hyper-posted in exactly one other game

i was town in that game, but it's a tremendously tiny sample size

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:17 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:06 am Ok. I do really want to know your reasonings for those reads though. I want you to convince me that you actually reached those reads legit and don’t just throw names togetherz

like idk what to tell ya it's 1 am I am not doing full justice to this

rask and syn are doing typical rask and syn town things moreso Rask

I am not sure this is true

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:45 am Honestly I’m thinking we should just all out what we are. It’ll make it harder for someone to slip an anti-town action through like a the warrior kills or healing a mafia of poison or role locking a town.

I was druid level 1 and either got blocked or failed my action N1.

I re-specced to paladin level 2 N2 and was not blocked, but also did not gain any CP because of that.

in hindsight I should have probably done warrior level 2 in order to shoot sig tonight, but oh well

time to go for a nice relaxing walk

new wolf team just dropped

jack/naa/dolby/urist

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:39 am syn is a filthy joke thief and thus lock scum

it's interesting you say that

anyway I think LP Is town

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:37 am wouldn't it be funny if I said LP was town

yes, but TSP already did that to me

we don't talk about the sickly

wouldn't it be funny if I said LP was town

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:35 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:34 am hey who did HK track N1

I think Hk said Duyna

damn okay nevermind

I was going to say maybe whoever he tracked was a wolf and they didn't want him to out a "red check"

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:33 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:33 am y'all have 15 minutes to ask me anything

do you think lp is town

I mean I could tell you that Dolby would say no they have voted me like every day.

I think his answer might be different after your opener today

hey who did HK track N1

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:33 am y'all have 15 minutes to ask me anything

do you think lp is town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:27 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 am Wilgy obviously looks worse with the revelation that Dunya was honest about that read.

Also, why is Sig still alive wtf? And only one poison? I'm gonna have to respec.

Bullshit it does.

That doesn't change the read. The capacity to judge the read was well and valid when Dunya was alive.

Idk man. I got some vibe from this JoH post as I skimmed. This feels like a premeditated post.

you mean premeditated like Jack breadcrumbing a scum case on me D2 and then opening up D3 by pressing it just an itsy bit further?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:25 am syn why are you on naa rn

I dunno

well actually I do know: he isn't engaging even though everyone knows he's here, and he's used that tactic as wolf on TS before

his total contribution to this game was a fake math case on scotty and then dropping it 15 minutes to EOD D1

since then he's uh, well, he's done, okay, well, if you really look closely, NAA has, okay, hold on, uh, since then, NAA has done some things, okay, like, you see...

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:25 am syn why are you on naa rn

I dunno

how did I butcher that quote so badly

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:23 am I death-tunneled my teammate relentlessly in a wolf game on MU and won handily

this was also a part of the building wolf case on me d2 about how dunia and I were w/w because I was pushing her but always conveniently ending up off wagon when she was in the lead

all that matters if that your tunnel never go over

I'm leaning toward jack/naa being w/w now

eventually I will hit a pair that is right

500 posts swag

i hate my life

all that matters is*** that your tunnel never goes over

I death-tunneled my teammate relentlessly in a wolf game on MU and won handily

all that matters if that your tunnel never go over

anyway my wolf read on urist was mostly based on naa/urist both refusing to earnestly engage and changing their votes/pushes arbitrarily and without mention, and me thinking urist was the scummier of the two

I don't really know if I still hold that opinion

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:18 am OK maybe I need to sleep because I can't understand a metaphor about time.

on d2 I suggested a wolf team of dunia/hk/urist/tsp

since then dunia and hk have died

they have both flipped town

therefore, because of time passing, i know that my scum reads can be and have been inaccurate

very cool

i like how dolby is lurking just to intercede and explain my posts and reads at random points

you asked me if I thought my scum reads were accurate, I said no and made a snarky joke about the passage of time meaning that I know that two of my scum reads are town because they are dead and have flipped town

this has no bearing on you or you flipping town, or your reads (???)

I don't think that says what you think it says

uhhhhhhhhhh

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:11 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:08 am anyway I am of course in the unique position of knowing my alignment and knowing that I am being kept alive for a reason

I don't need to ironically or unironically believe that, since from my perspective, that is the basic truth

my reads are going wrong somewhere in a way that makes other people more optimal for kills, and my "objectively towniest person" and "IC" statuses as you kindly describe me will become irrelevant

OK, but how do you reach the conclusion that if I flip Town half of my reads have to be wrong and thrown out?
That just seems so dismissive and backwards.
That's why I don't believe you care about anything I say if regardless of my alignment you're going to just assume I am horribly wrong.

where... did I say this?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:06 am No I'm going to refrain from talkin to you further. You just make my blood boil with how you seemingly care more about being contrarian than anything.
LIke words cannot describe how you sound right now. It seems like you would quite literally ignore a red check from me even if I flip Town.

the nature of this game makes red checks almost impossible to confirm

by your own logic, the wolves are going to mass kill tonight, so why would I believe you d4 if you say sig did or didn't go somewhere if his slot is still alive?

9 v 4 right now. d4 could well be lylo or outright game over if your theory holds any water. if you're a wolf, you can either clear your packmate and guarantee neither of you are chopped, or you can frame a zero poster slot and guarantee the win right there. nebulous tracks at lylo can't be trusted, just as a general baseline

anyway I am of course in the unique position of knowing my alignment and knowing that I am being kept alive for a reason

I don't need to ironically or unironically believe that, since from my perspective, that is the basic truth

my reads are going wrong somewhere in a way that makes other people more optimal for kills, and my "objectively towniest person" and "IC" statuses as you kindly describe me will become irrelevant

yes but

what?

what????

what

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

I'm not IC, and mafia aren't leaving me alone

through the power of linear time I am able to determine that at least half of my hypothetical wolf team is town

I know this because they died and flipped town, therefore I can deduce that some of my scum reads are not accurate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Once again, yes, TSP and I chose to attempt to yeet notoriously LHF player....Dunya. To defend a teammate, LP, who nobody townreads on her own merits and who doesn't seem to gaf about the game.

Come the fuck on.

straight up I think if dunya flips town min one wolf between you and tsp. I agree with Urist that Town Jack and Town TSP do not push Town Dunya like this. I think town Jack/TSP push wolf dunya like this for sure. Wolf Jack/TSP might push town dunya like this.

he didn't post an updated reads list but he did post this

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:38 am Who are the wolves HK?

they're in this set:
LP
Jack
Marmot
TSP
Urist
DrWigley

with a side of Dunya sus I can't shake but don't want to believe in.

I think the following are town:
HK obvs
Rask
Syn
Dolby
Scotty
NAA
Dyachei

Sig is a null and I'm assuming if Sig wolf Sig has been prompted numerous times to show up and do something. TSP makes my wolf list b/c he seems somewhat fixated on why sig exists, feels like a pre-associated attempted clear. That assumes Sig flips wolf but if he does TSP looks weird to me for wanting to know why Sig is still alive.

this was HK's reads list early D2

I guess I should go check if he made an updated one closer to EOD

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:43 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

Time has proven that true even if that was a half joke.
Mafia do make a lot of effort to make a presence D1 and you certainly did that then proceeded to scumside all of D2.

how do you know it's scum-sided?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

there is no way you believe anything you're posting

it's not possible

this is so contrived