The Syndicate

bruh

underwhelming tbh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:03 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:58 pm nutella is my top pick to go today. Discuss.

why

I said discuss. Not ask questions.

her reaction to the LC situation was townie IMO

if she's your TOP pick, there must be a reason

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:58 pm nutella is my top pick to go today. Discuss.

why

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:43 pm

(I don't think Syn's a wolf anyway)

same

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:33 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm I'm liking Marmot's d2 so far especially that he's trying to solve Rico.

I don't think wolf Syn would just say me/Scotty was a difference check if it was a difference check and Scotty was wolf.

I agree with this

...

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm I'm liking Marmot's d2 so far especially that he's trying to solve Rico.

I don't think wolf Syn would just say me/Scotty was a difference check if it was a difference check and Scotty was wolf.

...

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:10 pm the more I see thunal and scotty interact, the more I consider the idea that they are different alignments from one another instead of teamed

could not tell you who's which though

Take a wolf guess

ugh

thunal?

you?

thunal?

thunal.

... you?

the more I see thunal and scotty interact, the more I consider the idea that they are different alignments from one another instead of teamed

could not tell you who's which though

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:06 pm I have no reason to consider rico anything other than null based off of two posts

if you know he's an "extremely solid and active" player, then why is inactivity wolfy? is there some established meta of his where if he rands wolf, he doesn't play? seems unlikely

Why are you so interested in discussing this if he's off the table for you today (pending a volume/player change)? Why does it seem unlikely to you that inactivity is an AI facet of his play?


I've already explained what about him I think is wolfy and it isn't from activity.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:46 pm I know that I asked you a question and you answered it, I'm just confused by your approach right now given your worldview, which seems to involve ignoring Rico until further notice.

because I was already forced once to act in opposition to pushing rico's slot and I don't feel like doing it again, especially if it happens near EOD like it did the first time

it seems unlikely to me because you specifically cited his (abundance of) skill based on past meta, which runs contrary to your claim that his (lack of) skill here is wolf indicative

is he a solid player or not? if he is, then how is his play this game wolf indicative? his play seems more "isn't playing the game" indicative. if he doesn't have a reputation of simply peacing out when randing wolf, then I struggle to grasp any reasonable attempt at wolf-casing the slot

I have no reason to consider rico anything other than null based off of two posts

if you know he's an "extremely solid and active" player, then why is inactivity wolfy? is there some established meta of his where if he rands wolf, he doesn't play? seems unlikely

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.

Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.

Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.

Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.


We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.

K
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say

Ture. But if not now, then when?

I agree with the general reasoning, and I think it most applies Day 1. But it also isn't a slot I would feel comfortable hinging the game in LYLO on chopping, if the level of activity keeps up.


Also I'm not saying that we should chop him today, I'm just saying I'm now open to the possibility, whereas yesterday I wasn't.

it is unlikely an empty slot will be allowed to remain empty all the way to LYLO

this insistence by multiple players to just phone it in and chop someone who isn't even playing is really quite baffling. surely we are capable of better

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!

Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!

You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.

Tbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.

You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.

I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.

But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.

I don't see it tbh

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:20 pm As for Ricochet, I'd definitely consider him for a vote today. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his vote at the deadline was uninspiring. It's one thing to make an uninformed vote, or a hasty vote, but he seemed to try to force reasoning into it when he had none to give, which is kinda wolfy.

is it? it had no effect on anything and could just be someone scrambling to make a vote before EOD

unlikely Rico would have any awareness at all about vote locking or the hullabaloo around consolidating votes

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:57 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:14 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I am tunneling Scotty tomorrow

btw you need a permit to build a tunnel through this mountain

not with the power of elon musk on my side

just find it interesting you wanted to string up both shielded people if you could have managed to convince people to grant you their votes

also don't believe you didn't know Dizzy was being shielded lol c'mon

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:03 pm Cool cool cool

Mafia is paying attention. Sounds like LC was the once a game soupkill and they happened to find the right name out of LC’s ‘donotkill’ list. I thought it would thunal.

interestingly, this is scotty's take after LC's "do not chop these people" list

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:55 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.

Laughable that you could clear anyone

If LC wasn’t shielding you I would have voted you.

I still think you’re bad.

********

Marmot could be good. Their response is not terrible, but they’re also just a scumlean to me atm. I don’t regret voting for them.

*********

Dizzy is an enigma. Syn calling dizzy a top town read is laughable. Dizzy is rather despondent. Epi called him mean, which equates to, as dizzy describes, bluntness. But I see the opposite. He’s a bit aloof and isn’t ruffling any feathers. Blendy, not pushing the envelope. I support a dizzy vote if the rest of y’all with votes remaining choose to go there

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:08 pm Going back to my previous thought- mafia is paying attention. I don’t think Epi is paying attention. He could be a mafia laying low while his partner pulls the strings, but he isn’t the ring leader here. The kill last night points to at least one mafia that has been active in thread

maybe

I overall agree with the sentiment here but it also takes less than five minutes to ISO LC for his town clears and seeing that Dizzy was the shining jewel above them all

he did try to muddy it a little by adding thunal and later SVS and me but not especially well IMO

i think thunal is a wolf

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:47 pm Y'all should have voted Epi. Perhaps we should do that today in honor of Dizzy.

sorry, it looked like it was going to be a push on a no-posting slot and I went with the most viable alternative

of course

THANK YOU MARMOT I'M GOING TO KISS YOU ON THE MOUTH AND ALSO ON YOUR BELEAGURED FINGER

post capped thanks bye

this is infinitely better than chopping a no-info slot

bombastic side-eye to all y'all

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:32 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:22 pm @S~V~S @Dyslexicon @Thunal33

My second to last post.

What are you thinking off the top of your head?

Off the top of my head I'm thinking we should chop Rico since I don't scumread anyone else so Rico has a significantly higher chance than random of being mafia, but I'm going to continue checking for misclears and if I get a scumread elsewhere I'd rather pursue that. So far I feel pretty confident Scotty and Nutella are town on reread.

I would rather vote suspish but I’ll do this if it’s the consensus. We’re very divided as a group and I don’t know how else to find consensus.

vote seanzie, save the world

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 pm i am back to thunal/scotty

by the lord ruler the game is solved

Why did you suspect Scotty here?

every post drips with opportunism and somehow everything he does is in some way reflective of the game state and intended to push it elsewhere

that particular post was because he gave epi grief for insincerity when I'm not sure he himself has made a single sincere post all game yet

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I am tunneling Scotty tomorrow

there are two wolves

let's try to chop someone who has interactions and then if you still feel so strongly that a 1-post slot is a baddie, you can chop whoever replaces rico tomorrow

my god

I don't have the posts to argue with people but chopping Rico is so incredibly lazy and lacks all value to the game state

maybe I'll vote Seanzie

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:23 pm re: the "why are we ignoring dizzy as an option" posts, it's because LC asked us not to chop him (which works out well for me since he's one of my top town reads anyway)

I would like to vote Epi out of the current options but will not unless I am certain two others will vote with me

it is not lost to my attention either that scotty immediately dropping a vote on marmot upon entering the thread makes it more unlikely he is voted for by me

re: the "why are we ignoring dizzy as an option" posts, it's because LC asked us not to chop him (which works out well for me since he's one of my top town reads anyway)

I would like to vote Epi out of the current options but will not unless I am certain two others will vote with me

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:45 am

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:36 pm @falcon45ca @Epignosis please explain why your thread-entrance vanity votes were on the topics of discussion at that time

was it just "biggest name to pick" or was there actual reasoning involved

To my knowledge, Epi has not answered your question.





Why are you not following up? You said...something....regarding why you didn't follow up with me (I don't believe your answer btw), but why not follow up w/ the player who hasn't answered?




Perhaps he has, & I missed it...but I don't believe so, I'm in his ISO right now

Epi has avoided me all day and I was busy burning posts about other things

but I also don't grok your disbelief over me not caring about your answer after you gave it. was I supposed to have a specific opinion about it? it seemed real, so there is nothing for me to nitpick over

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:11 am Gonna reread the LC-nutella exchange tomorrow. Up until the claim it still felt very much like v!nutella pressing hard as she does when she picks up a scent. The handling afterward looks less townie imo, as described above.

But now that we can treat Brad as an IC, it'll be useful to look at how people treated him.

hate this post milord

I have a reason to not vote for almost everyone. I won't vote for Rico because the case on them is "they haven't posted" and that is wack. My personal vote list is between Scotty, SVS, Epignosis, and Seanzie, and Seanzie is dependent on me being convinced by others.

I'll be back around an hour before EOD to vote, I guess. I'll still be here for another hour or so too.

(just realized my list above didn't include Epi. Add him to that.)

fwiw I am inclined to just fall back on my original scotty sus, but I'm not sure I have the WIM to really challenge the town-read others have on him

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:55 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:52 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.

You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?

not being able to vote thunal kinda sucks ngl

I want the people who sus you to tell me why you're bad. I was town-reading the contrarianism earlier

You wolf like I do. Fun.

hell yeah brother

otherwise I guess I'm left with scotty??

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.

You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?

not being able to vote thunal kinda sucks ngl

I want the people who sus you to tell me why you're bad. I was town-reading the contrarianism earlier

Drop it, please. Neither of you gain anything from this except burning post cap. Let's move on and do something productive.

I am inclined to think Nutella is a villager here, so this is likely just t/t violence. It's D1. We have room. Assume the best of each other and help us catch a wolf.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am We lost at rand but not because of whoever the mafia are but because pr randed to someone who decided to just throw. Really great stuff why do I bother.

No it is not on me that he felt pressured to claim. He had so many opportunities to play the game productively and chose not to.

Whatever. Hammer me. I'm done here. Enjoy the personal blacklist brad if i bother to play games anyway

It's not as big of a deal as it feels at the moment, tbh. You have three posts left also. Pls do not cap yet

LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:33 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:23 am Okay then I'll just target you during the night phase and whether or not my PR mate wants you to die is up to them.

I almost wrote: "As someone whom may be the "you" in this statement, can you clarify..."

But then I read.

Lime, you are crucial. You need to name someone by EoD as marked.

it does not matter, wolves will just RB him

LC you have a handful of posts left, pls don't spend them arguing with nutella for no reason

bruh

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:09 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:53 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

On which day would you prefer it be used?

d4

OK.



You asked Epi & I about our votes earlier, but you haven't followed up with my response.



Why?

there doesn't seem to be anything relevant to say in response to it

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:53 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

On which day would you prefer it be used?

d4

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:56 pm Dizzy why am I top town read when you're giving others a hard time for townreading marmot and I am also doing that

Not Dizzy here, but I'm townreading you, too. You feel sincere to me, like you believe what you're saying. I don't have enough experience with you to know how good of a liar you are, but in general, you feel pretty truthy to me. Are you a good liar?

I've never lied before in my life

re: dizzy, he seems plenty people-please-y here to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

not with marmot, but he wasn't with marmot in GoC either

I am not feeling an LC vote at present

21 posts left for the next 22 hours ugh

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:01 pm I find not knowing unusual rules is pretty much NAI especially for Falcon. If he was bad he would have stopped in chat first, and coming in almost a day into the game, any halfway decent teammate would have left that info in the chat.

I tend to think the same for Epi, but the fact that he knew there was a post limit … but meh what ossicle benefit would the baddies get from “accidentally” not knowing rules? It seems a kinda straw graspy reason to suspect someone

tbf I knew the post limit but not the vote locking until someone specifically mentioned it

we're all bad at reading rules here

I'm bored. someone do a flip

@falcon45ca @Epignosis please explain why your thread-entrance vanity votes were on the topics of discussion at that time

was it just "biggest name to pick" or was there actual reasoning involved

thunal (1) - epi
lime coke (1) - falcon
seanzie (1) - lime coke

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:23 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:22 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:21 pm NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

why

Reads and questions don't feel real to me.

because they're contrarian?

three wagons is nonideal

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:21 pm NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

why