The Syndicate

How many games have you played with Mac, Deli?

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate

this does not pass the basic logic sniff test

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli

Dab
I believe Esooa, you however, I don't believe. If true, it makes sense the way you've played it but I have a really hard time believing Esooa claims with no pressure there

she absolutely would and has done so before

pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli

Dab
Awesome! It's probably Creature and Deli then. A lot of their interactions on Day 1 looked like softball teammate interactions.

you can't make posts like these dawg

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:26 pm I kinda just want to simplify things.

If Deli is the one lying then we can clear NANOOK, Esooa and potentially Wiml. We'll also know one of Marmot/me is wolf and the last one should probably be between MacDougall/Gavial/Kami/Syn.

If NANOOK is the one lying then by then we'll only be able to really clear Esooa (assuming we lynch Deli first here). Anyone else could potentially be wolf.

If Esooa is the one lying then this strategy is probably straight out losing. Hence why would like input from everyone.

Why would Wiml only be potentially cleared if Esooa is the doctor and Deli is lying?

I would like to hear from the people not involved in any of this claim stuff

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:04 pm Can we agree Esooa is likely town here?

If yes, then I think it may be more optimal for us to always lynch Deli here. If Deli flips jailkeeper then we almost always lynch NANOOK the next day. If Deli flips mafia then we can solve Marmot/me the next day.

the logic in this post is interesting

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 pm I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot
Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:26 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 pm I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot
Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?
this is why

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:27 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

this is an amusing sequence of posts

Deli's ISO is garbo but I can't tell if their interactions toward Mac are distancing or really pushing to set him up as a mischop after Falcon

okay no this makes sense

if he tracked Deli to Wiml and there was no kill, then his belief of me calling Esooa a liar parses (he even later says if he were the real doctor, he wouldn't directly CC the claim, softing that he thinks I'm CCing), and it explains his IMMEDIATE vote for Deli when Deli claims they JK'd Mac instead of Wiml if HK actually saw Deli go to Wiml

Reading HK's ISO, it reads strongly like he had a red check on Deli, but I can't decipher any meaning from his throwaway line on Marmot

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:55 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:14 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.
who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?
I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.
I don't think I can call falcons tone today townie at all. He's asked a few questions but for the most part that's all he's been doing. It looks like good work but until he starts analyzing answers (and I'm not sure he's gotten them but also doesn't look like he's following them up or re-asking) I'm not sure that he's actually doing townie things.
Someone stopped the kill from happening last night, we know that to be true.

What we don't know is who was the NK target and who saved them. Esooa claims to have saved Wiml from the NK, Syn says that's a lie, but Syn also isn't ccing Esooa. I still believe Syn to be townie, even with the way he's clearly fucking around today.
I don't think Creature has been wolfy at all, I don't really get why people are wolf reading him.

Mac is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in a soft burrito blanket. That is to say he's playing like Mac. Some trolling, some reads, and nothing you can take to a bank.

Marmot eh I guess? you know what you did marmot but really I don't see marmot wolf here either.

Gavial always seems like a chop to go for, I've had that thought a couple games now as both alignments. Definitely want to see more "solve" and less "I'm So RaNdOm" from him today.

Wiml is an interesting case. Only wiml and the wolves know for sure if he was the NK target or not. Even Esooa can't be 100% positive b/c he could have been JK even if she is the doctor.
I like his tone, and he's been doing some solving/making reads, so that's good.

what does HK mean here with his line about marmot

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:36 pm We'll prob have to solve Esooa (doctor), Deli (jailkeeper) and NANOOK (parity cop) soon. Considering it is 7v3, unless a kill is prevented, two mislynches should win wolves the game. If NANOOK is the one lying here then Marmot and I could easily be both town set to be mislynched.

hmmmmmmmmm yeah

@Esooa, @Deli, do you both hard claim your respective roles?

a solving nanook?

could the prophecies be true?

one complication I see in the future is that the wolves get a vig N4 unless we prevent a kill tonight

10 players, chop, 9, NK, 8, chop, 7, vig due to odd + NK, 5

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

for the sake of butt clenching

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli

Dab

thank you very cool

literally none of you should be trusted with EODs

every time you vote me, a puppy cries

[VOTE: Deli] aubergine

Deli, Marmot, and Gavial sure are interested in mechanics

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:25 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 pm I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot
Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?

this is why

I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot

burning a precious post on correcting sonsey to sensey

why would I be lolcatting dawg

makey no sonsey

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:08 pm One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.
It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

This is an amazing cop-out

only wolves vote for villagers

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:43 am
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:25 am [VOTE: Kreachur] aubergine

how about this
So I can safely assume your "Esooa is lying" was bullshit?

you can safely assume anything you want, it's a free internet

but no, you can't assume that

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:28 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:18 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:13 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:02 am How is that anywhere close to a defense?
Why can't you or hollowkat figure out what a defense or hard defense is?
Love the backhanded insults you seem to enjoy throwing around, makes me really enjoy playing with you
How is that anywhere close to an insult? I asked you how deli hard defended like 10 times and you couldn't answer. So I think both of you are just throwing things at wall otherwise you would make more sense right? It's scummy to be dishonest and it scummy to not be able to explain reads also.
So once again how is either of those posts a hard defense and the other a defense of me?
So do something about it then. Don't sit there throwing shade, back it up with a case and a vote or all you're doing is blowing smoke up my ass

I am burning a precious post on this

what if I told you my towncore was actually wolves

this game is amazing

[VOTE: Kreachur] aubergine

how about this

i love mag dourgel

my red checks are A+ tbh

also I'm not calling Esooa a liar due to a red check

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:42 pm This is "I didn't actually say I had a red check you plebes" all over again isn't it

hey she was a wolf in that game too

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:29 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:58 pm Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to
esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth
If you have something just say it, therer's no point in hiding it at this rate.

I did say it

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:06 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:50 pm Mac and HK are my towncore
Why on both?

cuz

20 posts left, guess I'll chillax for 30 hours

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:58 pm Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:55 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?
ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh
pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.
… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic

that is not what occam's razor is

man what a pandora's box

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:52 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:40 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:37 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:19 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn
this is a lie
Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on
[VOTE: deli] aubergine
the fuck is this vote
it's spicy. Wanna get in on the ground floor?
I'd rather vote mafia

ok you should self vote

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:40 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:37 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:19 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn
this is a lie
Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on
[VOTE: deli] aubergine
the fuck is this vote
Wait a second I just realized something.
If mafia did attack WimI and if mafia knew the only one that would protect them is Esooa and that happens to be the case, how would mafia go into the next day knowing this logic?
Honestly it may make sense to insta vote WimI to push their kill target and out Esooa.
I think HK could actually be Scum.

some prime gavial meat here

Deli wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:50 pm yes deli, i, a wolf, publicly in thread, said esooa is a liar because i tried to NK someone else and i couldn't let a lie stand

big brain time
That’s what I’m saying, for it to be a lie I think you have to be a wolf who slipped tmi :0 you frustrated bro?

what

yes deli, i, a wolf, publicly in thread, said esooa is a liar because i tried to NK someone else and i couldn't let a lie stand

big brain time

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:01 pm I just wanna hear what syn has to say

i already said what I had to say

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

only have 29 posts left and we're 3 hours in reeeeee

second paragraph, that is

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:30 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:26 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:24 pm I need to read Syn's wolf ISO in Borderlands. His voting and some of his takes have been so bad that I struggled to tell if they've been ironic.
also, you've been over-relying on this "I need to ISO [player] in [other game]" tactic in your past few games for the easy town cred, because surely only a villager would go to such lengths
My past few games have all been town games lol.

No I mostly just post what I'm thinking at the time (at least as town) and to let people know my short term goals in a game. In general my play is pretty meta-heavy and this is mostly an unconscious thing I say a lot than anything purposeful for town cred? I very rarely purposefully try to get town cred as town.

this is a lie

if I could vote you again, I would

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