The Syndicate

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:42 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:40 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:05 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:40 am I also didn't like rondo's eod yesterday but i'm not sure if it's bad enough to make me feel like he's a for sure yeet already when hardly anything has happened today
This shows Porcha could be wolf. She is taking back her town read of me

This is a lazy read, why are you voting for me and not Porsche then?
That's easy. Because he's wolf

Vote Porscha

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:53 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:52 pm Porscha doesn't strike me as scum rn. She does seem like she's actively trying to find town as well as scum (as evidenced by her comment about Sean), although I do want to know why she's voting for me.

Flanders, why do you think Porscha is scum?
he doesnt and if he actually does he got rez'd as maf. he can't flip on me now it's too late

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:55 pm Ngl Porscha saying people scum reading her are trolling seems sussybaka

Ping

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:56 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:55 pm Ngl Porscha saying people scum reading her are trolling seems sussybaka
it isn't sussy when rondo has 180'd on his play style and flanders literally just hard TR'D me on repeat while popping in to make 3 word posts with no explanations. pretty obvious to me they aren't playing seriously right now
Honestly I don’t disagree and I don’t really think you’re scum atm. It’s just a weird defense I find. I try not to think the worst of people just trolling.

Backpedal ping

Those @Seanzie

Feels like LP jumped at the opportunity to shade a widely townread player.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:00 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:55 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:50 am Flanders, who were your strongest three townreads yesterday? You said it was the people on my wagon, but I don't know who they were now.
Porscha, Sean and Mac.
Porscha due to herplay, and the situation where she cleared up a misunderstanding on my behalf.
Sean due to the fact everyone seems to town read him.
Mac because of circumstance. Doom was reborn town, I was reborn town, and just assumed Mac did too.

So you think that you and Mac were both reanimated as town in the same night?

I guess there was only on dead player Night 1, which explains why only DOOM was rezzed. But Rondo and falcon were dead last night (and DOOM too, but I wonder if you can't be rezzed more than once) and only one was rezzed.

I don't know what to think man. Can't deny I'm struggling hard this game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:50 am Flanders, who were your strongest three townreads yesterday? You said it was the people on my wagon, but I don't know who they were now.

Porscha, Sean and Mac.
Porscha due to herplay, and the situation where she cleared up a misunderstanding on my behalf.
Sean due to the fact everyone seems to town read him.
Mac because of circumstance. Doom was reborn town, I was reborn town, and just assumed Mac did too.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:50 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:46 am Like if one of Flanders/Mac is not town, I'd look at Mac at this moment. He made a naked vote yesterday, and his case today is lacking. Flanders bothering to do anything at EOD is more rand!town.
I don't disagree that Mac is... lacking. However, Flander's EoD I think is telling.

It only tells me that you're looking for something that isn't there.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:47 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:40 am @Marmot what do you think of Flanders' movements at EoD yesterday? Were you surprised when they unvoted you?
Lol this is funny to me because I made my rounds with the votes at eod. There's a little more cooperation from other townies with pressure voting on my homesite, and I was trying to basically shake the tree and see what falls out.

Hard to do without support though.
You did vote a lot, but when I started moving, it seemed more like you were responding rather than just moving. Am I wrong?

I was hoping you'd play into it, and join me because you were the only other player actually playing with your vote.

I was trying to "weaponize" my vote, if that makes sense. Just didn't end up doing fuck all in the moment but give give me a scum ping on LP.
Said ping should be looked back on. Could just be a tonal miss

The porscha vote was to see if I could find a hungry wolf, and LP kinda bit on it. I'll back read later

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:40 am @Marmot what do you think of Flanders' movements at EoD yesterday? Were you surprised when they unvoted you?

Lol this is funny to me because I made my rounds with the votes at eod. There's a little more cooperation from other townies with pressure voting on my homesite, and I was trying to basically shake the tree and see what falls out.

Hard to do without support though.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:35 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:28 am Ok. Fuck the kill.

Still two mafia and a 3p in the original group. My initial scum read on Marty probably worth exploring, but could go to Marmot because he keeps being the cc to lynched town.

Creature, cobalt and LP. Hm
I agree there are enough suspects in the original group that you're not a target for today, but I'd like to hear from you all the same.

Tell me about Marmot. Is your only reason to suspect them because they've been on the chopping block a few times, or?

Yeah. I must admit, that because I don't really know the players here very well I'm really uncertain of how to read each player.
I should be diligent and actually go iso players in the next day. Probably a not so stupid idea.

As far as Marmot goes, it's just a thread state thing. My top town reads were all there, and I ignored that aspect despite recognizing it. Living up to my first name I guess.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:34 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:28 am Ok. Fuck the kill.

Still two mafia and a 3p in the original group. My initial scum read on Marty probably worth exploring, but could go to Marmot because he keeps being the cc to lynched town.

Creature, cobalt and LP. Hm
Marmot is mafia and you are probably mafia for pretending it's not obvious

I'm just hung up on why, if he's mafia, didn't he just vote to bury me D2. He was in the thread and active at nightfall, but not paying close enough attention to the votes to notice we were tied?

It weighs heavily. However, I did say my strongest town reads were all voting Marmot, and it felt weird to be on the cc last round.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:26 am
Off Topic
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:25 am The whole wifom "why didn't they kill me or mac" is gonna nag at me.

Mac is town and they're trying to make us doubt that.
Mac is mafia and I'm gonna be dragged and used as a prop / patsy.
Ooor...

There's no or from where I stand.

Ok. Fuck the kill.

Still two mafia and a 3p in the original group. My initial scum read on Marty probably worth exploring, but could go to Marmot because he keeps being the cc to lynched town.

Creature, cobalt and LP. Hm

The whole wifom "why didn't they kill me or mac" is gonna nag at me.

Mac is town and they're trying to make us doubt that.
Mac is mafia and I'm gonna be dragged and used as a prop / patsy.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:53 pm Like, Flanders has been moving around a lot, but the thread seemed to get pretty stagnant at 4v4 when I was on Rondo and Flanders was on Marmot. I unvoted Rondo and Flanders started moving around again, then now that I'm actually on Marmot, Flanders seems to plant on Rondo?

I was gonna end on rondo all along FWIW

Started the round there.

Just, dont like my wagon mates now

I kinda need to know, because my strongest 3 town reads are on marmot

Seanzie, why marmot over Rondo?

Seems like youre trying to save him.

Definitely gain some wolf equity with him if I hadn't dueled him, flipped town, then was reborn.

Like, dude should've buried me instead of facing a duel. Seems kinda towny to not be paying enough attention despite being active

Voting in opposition to my town reads is interesting here.

Hm

Gut read had Rondo scum on D1.
Softened a bit
But he definitely hasnt regained any of that towny kind of momentum since early D2

Re-entries have felt awkward. Noticed a tonal shift too, far less confident.

Noticeable thread presence for him is gone too. All looks really wolfy.
Was gonna dick around with my vote a bit more but I gtg.

Vote Rondo

Vote LP

For being way too eager on Porscha

Tsktsk

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:04 pm Oh I see, Flanders has bad aim :wowee:

Did I really just get woweed?

Motherfucker

Vote Marmot

No, I dont have to explain shit.

Trust I'm still town and doing things for good.

I meant lp

Vote LS

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:40 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:05 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:40 am I also didn't like rondo's eod yesterday but i'm not sure if it's bad enough to make me feel like he's a for sure yeet already when hardly anything has happened today
This shows Porcha could be wolf. She is taking back her town read of me

This is a lazy read, why are you voting for me and not Porsche then?

That's easy. Because he's wolf

Vote Porscha

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:57 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:13 pm Think I need to vote LP
can you elaborate why

Cant, sorry. Super busy

Vote marty

Think I need to vote LP

So thread state is a bit sketch. Wish I knew if we have a frozen scum team, or if they're just happy with the lynch options. Typically the latter.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:25 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:04 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:38 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:29 pm Alright. I just didn’t see a stated reason other than you asked others their opinion in him.

Moving onto a different question then. Does any active player catch your eye? Or is it that you’re just wanting Covalt dead because it’s a frozen slot and not really having any other reads?
I remember townreading you, Porscha and Seanzie, but these townreads still feel weak and would like more reassuring reasons.

Rondo I was sorta townleaning but I never saw him play wolf.

I'm unsure on Martin. I don't really get the townreads on him.

Marmot I can see being wolf, but meh.

Cobalt not posting is pissing me off and I feel like we should get rid of a non-posting slot.

You wanted to chop cobalt last EoD when wagons were Falc (town), me (town) and a little dueling sean (?)/marmot (?) thing going on.

Pretty sure you finished the day on Cobalt.

So why would it be a bad play now?
FTR, Rondo finished the day on me, not Cobalt.

Yeah odd place to finish the day. Hiding on probably the least viable wagon when two town get dropped.

My mistake, you changed to Seanzie, but were on Cobalt to "remove him from the game" earlier.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:04 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:38 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:29 pm Alright. I just didn’t see a stated reason other than you asked others their opinion in him.

Moving onto a different question then. Does any active player catch your eye? Or is it that you’re just wanting Covalt dead because it’s a frozen slot and not really having any other reads?
I remember townreading you, Porscha and Seanzie, but these townreads still feel weak and would like more reassuring reasons.

Rondo I was sorta townleaning but I never saw him play wolf.

I'm unsure on Martin. I don't really get the townreads on him.

Marmot I can see being wolf, but meh.

Cobalt not posting is pissing me off and I feel like we should get rid of a non-posting slot.

You wanted to chop cobalt last EoD when wagons were Falc (town), me (town) and a little dueling sean (?)/marmot (?) thing going on.

Pretty sure you finished the day on Cobalt.

So why would it be a bad play now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:35 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:12 pm Speaking of which, @MacDougall @Stupid Sexy Flanders do either of you know HOW you were revived?
Yes, I was revived by your mother.

The lady bumming smokes outside the donut shop?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:12 pm Speaking of which, @MacDougall @Stupid Sexy Flanders do either of you know HOW you were revived?

No idea.

[vimeo][/vimeo]

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:48 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:48 am Porscha, Mac

Marmot

Sean, LP, Martin

Rondo
Creature
Cobalt -> 3p
This is mostly where I am at with Martin and LP a little higher, and Porscha and Marmot a little lower.

Porscha's D2 fact finding mission when Doom had the EOD chain of events all mixed up was town work. There'd be no reason for wolves to essentially stick their neck out in an exercise to expose truths.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:50 am Honestly the only reason I would even consider otherwise is the 1 kill each night and so far 3 town revives, but conversion roles I find are usually really hated by players.

It poisons the well if it throws the balance, but in a scenario where you've revived 3, maybe even 4 town, and then FINALLY town nails scum.. maybe they get a reborn / alignment switch.

Giving mafia an extra player, turning a 2 /7/1 to 3/6/1.. after two night falls..
Maybe actually?

Porscha, Mac

Marmot

Sean, LP, Martin

Rondo
Creature
Cobalt -> 3p

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:35 am I'll need 3 dead scum before that is a possibility.

Two scum + 1 3P in the OP.

Seeing Mac reanimated too kinda made me wonder if the host would start trying to apply some balance by having an alignment switch, but host also says "Doesn't mean the game is balanced" in the OP, which now that I write it out actually makes me second guess myself for a 2nd time.

Hm. So, yeah I'm just going to assume Mac also regens as town until I have reason not to. We haven't hit any scum yet and lost two town, so I don't really see room for an alignment switch yet.

No but seriously, there was no dead chat in purgatory

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:50 am I don't suppose Falcon had anything important to say in dead chat did he?

He gave me the All-o-gistics

With the way the wagons ended, I have a hard time believing Marmot is mafia. All he had to do was come off Falcon and vote me to avoid the duel and guarantee his safety.

I'm basing this assumption on the thinking he can count, and as a wolf would actually care if he was yeeted.

Porscha townlocked never convince me otherwise.

Rondo looked real sketch at EOD. SUPER DUPER

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All
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This is

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:11 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:09 pm Not a lot of action since yesterday but for whatever reason, maybe the hangover, I'm actually feeling a lot better about Rondo.
Porcha 100% town unless she's trying to pocket a towny who's about to get mischopped. He work to point out the error in omega thought process is something only town does imo. No wolf bothers with that excerice. Just like no wolf bother with wagon racing, when they can drop their votes away from lead (town) wagon and hide.

Still like Seanzie as town.

Didn't like Marmot and LP's wagon work. Not at all. Let's say I'm wrong on Martin, and he is town. If thats the case LP and Marmot both look brutally scummy for running away from town wagons to avoid any heat from a mis.

Falcon has is playing outside his town meta. There's no questioning, just commentary. Posting is way too passive and he's not expanding his reads on players. I don't like it.
I'm not sure 8ve seen this side of wolf falcon though, but if we need to find a 3p, there's a good place to look.

Looking at the list, I don't think I've read a post from cobalt. Pretty null on creature. Guess I'll iso later after shaking off thing hangover.
You mean to tell me that you would town read Marmot all of Day 1 then because someone you find suspicious calls him out that he is probably Mafia?

In what world is that a position anyone would make?

I also find you're whole "I don't know Mafia chat uses Discord" just a pretty likely blatant lie. You cannot tell me that you've never once died in a game on this site. If you did you would know that dead chats are almost always on Discord and give links to Mafia chat when game ends. Not only that but you mean to say you never once read the ending post of a game which almost always explicitly leaves a discord invite to the Mafia chats? It takes at most 2 games to learn this even without rolling Mafia.

You also contridict your claim of never having rolled Mafia by saying that Falcon knows that you bus your teammates as Mafia.

Alright, my wife is taking forever to get ready so I have a minute to address this stuff.

My marmot flop has nothing to do with anyone else's read. What I said is that I didnt like the way they hopped off / avoided lead wagons at NF.
If marty is in fact town, you and Marmot should be on the block ASAP.

I've never randed WOLF on syndicate, but obviously have on my homesite.

Yes, I've been invited to dead chats. Yes I probably forgot you guys do your wolf chats on discord. We dont at home.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:12 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:15 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:11 pm Got any town reads falc?
Mac.

I don't have any solid TR's currently. Nulls and scum leans. I don't even have any solid scum reads, y'all are just leans.
Pffft classic

As far as your omgus shade goes, I'm having a total NO U moment.
I addressed my growing scum lean on you towards EOD 1, and gave reasoning for it.
You just start D2 with a shady vote, without any reasoning. Looks like your only reason for it is so you could say oMuGuS lUcKy, then fire some dodgy one liners and not offer any insight.

Cool cool
I have no recollection of the events in question

Then reread D1.

I'll be AFK for the rest of the day, hopefully back by NF, but there's a good chance I won't be.

I won't feel bullied and picked on as a community outsider if you guys really need to flip me.

Have fun! Don't take the game too seriously.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:15 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:11 pm Got any town reads falc?
Mac.

I don't have any solid TR's currently. Nulls and scum leans. I don't even have any solid scum reads, y'all are just leans.

Pffft classic

As far as your omgus shade goes, I'm having a total NO U moment.
I addressed my growing scum lean on you towards EOD 1, and gave reasoning for it.
You just start D2 with a shady vote, without any reasoning. Looks like your only reason for it is so you could say oMuGuS lUcKy, then fire some dodgy one liners and not offer any insight.

Cool cool

Got any town reads falc?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:06 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:03 pm Like this mothetfucker knows I bus the hell out if teammates and never do anything but distance from my wolf teammates, because I'm such a shit wolf.

Lmao
Why you so cool w/ Porscha TR you? Or her TR me?

I find your lack of suspicion disturbing

Pretty sure she downgraded my town status from green to orange, and so far as I recall, she's just not wolf reading you.

My 100% belief she's town is connected to her forcing truths in the thread, namely omegas shade / misreading of what an inactive wagon is.
In what world does a wolf do that for a tp (me) who's likely mincemeat?

WHY THE DP?

GRRRR

Like this mothetfucker knows I bus the hell out if teammates and never do anything but distance from my wolf teammates, because I'm such a shit wolf.

Lmao

Like this mothetfucker knows I bus the hell out if teammates and never do anything but distance from my wolf teammates, because I'm such a shit wolf.

Lmao

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:59 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:10 pm Okay, I read through Porscha. Porscha's D1 was not very good IMO. Rondo listed out what he thought was her reads and it had a lot of wolf-leans, and honestly I kinda agreed with most of Rondo's assessment based on Porscha's pushes (not saying she specifically said they were wolf-leans, but the way she interacted with them suggested she was suspecting them), but Porscha said pretty much all of those were null, and had only Martin as suspicious when she corrected Rondo. So, I kinda feel like she did a lot more throwing shade than actual solving.

However, today she has been one of the only people that I feel is actually trying to push the game forward. Still a little more mudslingy than I remember her in the past, but honestly, I don't really see why wolf!Porscha would be pushing the thread forward when we're kinda in a bad gamestate leading up to a very important double-elim. So, I'mma say that look pretty good for her. Plus, I heard through the grapevine that I am required by the rules to townread her by EoD2, so that kinda locks my hand.
I don't see a world where Porscha is wolf. She worked diligently to clear my name in the Omega vs reading the thread debacle.
There's no reason for a wolf to do this.
What if you're teammates?

Lmao
Yeah let's just fiercely protect each other in the thread and hope no one notices.

You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humour.

Vote falc

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