The Syndicate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:26 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:08 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:23 pm Oh and I targeted

Falcon n1
JPIC n2
Nutella n3

Apparently 1/2 of my action failed on Nutella on n3, so IDK how that happened but it did and the other part worked.
I can confirm somebody targeted me with something n2
@MartinGG99

I vaguely hinted at being targeted on n2 in the last day, do you know what I’m referring to? Going to assume that was you

If you're referring to the "Nothing Personal" post then yes

But otherwise I probably missed it either because I'm an idiot or it wasn't me?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:11 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pmFrom what I understand apparently Nutella sacrificed self for Jack?

Give that's the only plausible explanation to me rn and apparently you tried to do a protective on Nutella

I would have to confirm that my negative effect failed and the positive effect succeeded
Ok, good. I mean, you were the one saying only 1/2 succeeded, so I assumed you already knew which part of your action failed before hearing from me. But I protected Nutella from all harm, so it would make sense if your positive action was the only one that stayed.

Yeah I wasn't told which part failed, I thought it was "if you used one you had to use the other (which is true)"

but apparently if one part fails that doesn't mean the other fails as well

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm also this thread looks like a field of well-grown GMO-certified "What the fucks" is going on

also this thread looks like a field of well-grown GMO-certified "What the fucks" is going on

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:01 pmDyslexicon - claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful (unsure if it means that he knows he wasnt roleblocked, or if he knows that nutella was attacked
It means Martin had a result on his actions that makes sense with the ability I used. Only one part of his action failed. If he can confirm it was the negative effect that failed, my action was successful. I don't know how he got the info about only part of his action succeeding, but it fits with my action, so that's why I believe him, and I believe he's town.

From what I understand apparently Nutella sacrificed self for Jack?

Give that's the only plausible explanation to me rn and apparently you tried to do a protective on Nutella

I would have to confirm that my negative effect failed and the positive effect succeeded

(I can't choose having only negative or only positive utility; when I use it, it uses both aspects of the ability)

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:24 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:23 pm Oh and I targeted

Falcon n1
JPIC n2
Nutella n3

Apparently 1/2 of my action failed on Nutella on n3, so IDK how that happened but it did and the other part worked.
are these actions alignment indicative of who you targeted or is this just mech info that we can use with other mech results later

Its not really alignment related at all

but it has both positive and negative utility to it and while I don't imagine it being relevant I figured I would drop that info because if I die without doing so then people can speculate on what I "actually did" and I don't wish for that to happen

Oh and I targeted

Falcon n1
JPIC n2
Nutella n3

Apparently 1/2 of my action failed on Nutella on n3, so IDK how that happened but it did and the other part worked.

But I don't know kyle

and I don't have much more time to spend on this nor energy but I feel its important to point out because quite frankly I should be executed tbh

Despite there being multiple instances of kyle voting me before

which makes me feel like he's disinterested in a non-towny way

He hasn't even voted me even though there's 3 votes on me atm

errr bit of time

It also bothers me that the last few posts that Kyle has been here for a few minutes

I have this gut feeling that maybe Kylemii is being given too much credit or even being mafia

it also bothered me finding this in the marmot ISO but he never really brings it up again beyond this aside from his very minor interactions with Kylemii

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:59 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:47 pm I think that Kyle is Mafia; the way he's constantly talking about having to catch up is a way I've seen Mafia do, can't really argument it; it's just how I've seen it; I think there are other people who groan at having to catch up but they aren't following it so faithfully / they meme from time to time / they still give reads from time to time.

I think the way Kyle is approaching this is wolfy and he's constantly reminding us that he's trying to read every post (which I believe him that he is) but that's busywork IMO and he's mafia.

You're right, I don't recall Kyle doing this. I think he tends to post off-topic rather than complaining about catching up.

I'mma look him up in other big games as a townie player.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:28 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:26 pm @tutuu I am in the middle of comparing Kyle to a couple past games. I need to do some other things, but I'll be back to finish later
okiii furball

but I've looked into some random iso's hoping to do something useful because quite frankly without my townreads I feel quite aimless for the past 48 hours or so

I am quite frankly drained from the game for some reason in that aspect everyone should absolutely chop me despite being town

So I'm going to be honest here

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

I'll read it later when I have the motivation to do so but I'm noting it in my ISO so I pick it up easily later

also p#8815 is a book and the largest wall that I've ever seen that isn't 80% quote spam

I kinda forgot why I town'ed MR but I know it was recent

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:15 pm Hi Martin, I think we're mind melding. What are your reads on 112 and Master Radishes?

mr town iirc

112 I had like a small town lean long ago but Idk either way tbh and I'm not really interested in pursuing them rn

As for how accurate "random solving" is, I've figured probably not but it might be a good guide. I kinda forgot how well my last thing did.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:14 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:58 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:50 pm
My working theory
- The Marmot wagon is completely clean. No scum at all. With no strong case against Marmot and the wagons going every which way, I bet scum felt that they could pull off an alternate yeet with enough work
- Tim and Martin were alternative yeets pushed by scum so that they wouldn't lose another teammate
- Nanook is scum, and LC and Michelle are town, correctly pushing Nanook as scum.
- Dizzy is scum, and 112 and Falcon are town, correctly pushing Dizzy as scum
- 112 is town, and maybe(?) one scum between Kyle and TSP? I'm least sure about this part.
This isn't quite accurate. I did not push Nanook as scum, I voted there simply to sheep nutella earlier. I assumed I would be changing my vote by the end of the day.... I pictured myself being there by the end of the day, but I forgot that the end time was earlier than I'm used to.
This post reminds me of LC in Bread game. He doesn't agree with a clear on himself, most likely speaking with an honest tone.
Analogy makes him a villager fmpov
@Hyena I don't think you should have a working theory that's basically a random solve of the game. I've been "pushing" Nanook though, but tbh it's based on total vague feelings and 80 % guesswork. Who pushed Tim and Martin as an alternative to Marmot then? Can you name names?
"I don't think you should have a working theory that's basically a random solve of the game."
Yes, I should. <3

"Can you name names?"
Nah, I can't.

fwiw I think its >rand town to do the "random solve".

I did in Shadow Corridors on D2/D3 a bit since I had the time for it, and I don't think scum easily comes up with this stuff unless they're in that game w/ me. (They weren't.)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:36 pm Cat had a silencer role. Someone got muted.

Marmot had a Tetris role. I got a Tetris challenge N2 after Marmot died.

Scum have a universal backup it seems. No way they use that power on a teammate who's not even under much suspicion on N1.

Sloonei gets a pass until late game if he's still alive, then we can re-eval.

Oh neat, interesting to know.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:03 pm I was gonna argue he wasn’t “lolcatting” but he did self vote and say peace out fuckers so it’s pretty pedantic atp.
I'm so confused, are the votes that count the posted votes or the poll votes?

Poll votes count. Its just really encouraged to post them when you make them if possible.

Self-votes aren't counted though.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:13 pm Also, another random though,

Could Falcon be some sort of Jester role? That would be funny, lol

Seems unlikely to me. Dya had sorta that thing, and afaik Falcon technically was 3p in the last two big games here (Spider-verse, apparently? And shadow corridors I think).

Getting 3p again would be surprising.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:51 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Getting cold feet

you just don't like me smh

on a more serious quick note btw

I'm not going to be very active in the upcoming week; or at least I'm not certain how active I'll be

I have a bunch of exams and a 10-hour extracurricular conference to attend and write about so I'll be quite busy with my 5 courses

oh hey we're voting the person who I had my vote on for most of d2

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:50 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:48 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:46 pm a vig doesn't mean there has to be matching kill power on the wolf side

a vig has a pretty good chance of getting a town dead

also some vigs like claiming before they get a shot off so they can be roleblocked or nightkilled if they're town
Fair enough I suppose.
fair enough tell smh

Fair enough.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:46 pm a vig doesn't mean there has to be matching kill power on the wolf side

a vig has a pretty good chance of getting a town dead

also some vigs like claiming before they get a shot off so they can be roleblocked or nightkilled if they're town

Fair enough I suppose.

Especially when we have not seen a kp-capable mafia role other than their factional kill

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:35 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm Does mafia have extra KP

Oh yeah, totally. What do you want to know about the ol' team?

I want to know what justifies having a delayed n3 vig like Tim claimed to be

For night-kill purposes its like it has been mountainous-esque since n1

and ik my role, though it does not have KP, has been active since n1

so I'm wondering what the !@#$ is going on with the setup or is that delayed n3 vig claim just somehow bs to get another power off before being deleted

Dya was a "kill if deleted" role
Cat was a silencer/blackmailer role
Marmot was a "Tetris steal/manipulate abilities" role
Mac was a "tempoary masonizer thing" role

And w/ knowing my role, with all these things being capable of activity on n1

Just hearing a "delayed vigilante" of some sort sounds odd to me so far.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:34 pm Does mafia have extra KP

So, considering there's been only 1 mafia KP per night (it would seem)

Why is there a delayed n3 vigilante? Does mafia have KP and its just super delayed or is their mafia team just really big?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm I don't think she should be eliminated today, or at least I likely won't push + consider it, but I think I should continue to consider the thought of a scum Tutuu in the future.

Ebwop.

I've looked at length at Tutuu's ISO and her interactions with Marmot, her reads of him, and her reads of me.

I've felt like there's something there that I couldn't put into words, but after staring at walls of text for 30 minutes or so I determined that its possible that what I was trying to put into words was likely just paranoid WIFOM thinking.

I do think the interactions or statements in some posts were (arguably) rather bad though, but I can't really say its a conviction.

I haven't looked into her interactions with cat at all, but I trust others when they said those were bad as well and now considering that she has 2 bad interactions with different scum slots I'm not as willing to hard defend them.

I don't think she should be eliminated today, or at least I likely won't, but I think I should continue to consider the thought of a scum Tutuu in the future.

Or what you mistook as towniness

@tutuu mind telling me why you confidently town-read Marmot?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:03 pm Of the five people in the list, she scares me the most right now for how outspoken she was about not wanting to vote Marmot. Also, after reading some of the recent interactions between Tutuu and Martin, I worry that their relationship in this game is mirroring similar relationships I've had with people in game that I've townread people regardless of their alignment... basically basing it completely off how enjoyable I'm finding someone (past examples for me include Elephant/Mendel, Trustworthy, and Evenstar).

We should probably lock Hyena as town btw. Or 3p, but that's not really a priority at all to me tbh considering their contributions.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:54 pm also wait, has anyone ever claimed dead before?

Like can you do that?

Quite a number of games on TS allow you to make a single dead-red post like Ouch when you die / its announced in the thread that you died.

You clearly missed the SoD3 flip.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:15 pm Or something along those lives.

Lines* not lives

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:13 pm Anyway...I think your TR on Tutuu might be wrong. Have you been updating that, or might it be a bit stale?

I'm considering it pending when I look into Marmot + Tutuu interactions.

I still think she's town though; its what I feel. The only thing that would make me doubt it is, as I've said, if they had bad interactions with multiple flipped scum I think. Or something along those lives.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:50 pm nutella
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Michelle
Made
Hyena

Master Radishes
tedxtr
Sloonei
112
Long Con
JackofHearts2005

DrWilgy
Kylemii
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TonyStarkPrime
MartinGG99
falcon45ca

Dyslexicon
hollowkatt
Timsup2nothin
tutuu

Alison

Mind giving your thoughts or reasons on JPIC + Michelle please?

Dizzy as well since I haven't seen them recently, but it's not like im here 24/7.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals
i knew a cat named kyle once
Is this true????
I think that you, me, Mac, and Martin are the only players using given names for screen names...Mac's town, I'm town...if you are town should we just clear Martin or nah?

Martin's not my given name, Marshall is.

But considering online sources are the most frequent social interaction I get (where my username is martin) you might as well consider my given name to be Martin anyways lol.

I'm not sure clearing me is a good idea for anyone as any alignment. If a town calls me town correctly despite any controversy its likely considered TMI; considering how I've been suspected of TMI for having (what I believe to be) correct town reads on Tutuu and the Thunal/HK slot.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:57 pm i will eat my sock and record myself and post it itt

please don't do that (in any case) :c

you're an enjoyable player to have around overall

Maybe I'm confbiased but I think regardless of the possible flips going on, MR is just town here (unless we're all town wagons in which case we got bigger problems lol).

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:49 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:15 pm Nobody ever ats me with cases when I ask.
@Jackofhearts2005

I don't know any cases completely off the top of my head but I'm indicted with allegations of TMI on Tutuu and Thunal33/Hollowkatt being town
As in Tutuu is scum cause they’ve got tmi those two are town?

nah because some people have thought or still do think I got TMI on them

I stick out like a sore thumb defending them and believing they're town while no one seems to have similar levels of confidence on that

Besides, MR is doing what I kinda did before in his own way imo and I think I should respect that

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