The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:31 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

mac either I'm wrong or you're wrong

and I am contractually obligated by my bias to tell you you're wrong

Not to mention this game COULD be multi-ball and hence they may feel more need to say it than before.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:49 am I will also need more than "X could be scum because it's multiball and they can be scumhunting honestly" at all points in this game. Yes, that is a thing to be mindful of, but it is not a case in itself.

hey @Sloonei

it might sound absurd

but it actually feels like that's what town Thunal says or happens to think about many times

or at the very least I get the feeling I recognize their responses and thinking as if they were from the Grasslands game:

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:28 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:10 am My issue isn't the read you're making. My issue is that you're like handing out reads left and right for stuff that (in my view) should be close to NAI, and I don't see evidence of the paranoia I'd expect to see from town there. There's a disparity between the substance of the read and the attitude you have towards it that I think can be plausibly explained by you having NAI on the subject of the read.

This isn't to say that townies can never be paranoid about their townreads early. But I think that kind of confidence comes either from a long history or extensive meta on the person, or because they saw something that they thought was really hard to fake. I don't think you believe that the observations you've made about me are at all hard to fake - which makes me question why the possibility I was faking didn't seem to factor into your analysis.
The possibility the person is faking always does come into my analysis, but it's not exactly good town strategy to hedge every single read I make by saying "This looks good, but they could be faking" or "I like these thoughts, but they could be faking them." It's kind of obvious that it's a possibility so I don't feel the need to actually state it.

(DEAR READER: THE ABOVE QUOTE IS IN A PAST GAME. THANK YOU.)

The only problem I could see is this, but I would argue that since it comes into play with their thinking and analysis so often, its probably difficult to keep a consistent behavior of not stating the obvious. Especially since their recent post here, in this game:

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not saying this to defend myself and I'm not even sure if it's AI, I'm just thinking out loud:

I put a lot of thought into my posts as either alignment. I double check things and write things down and make sure my tone isn't wrong or forced. It feels restrictive but I do it anyway since I don't want to be in the PoE and I hate being yeeted. Turbos and video mafia feel more freeing since I can actually be myself without having to look at my posts under a microscope since I don't have the time to do that. Maybe I should stop overanalyzing my posts, I don't know, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to accept the downturn in results I think will come from that. I like being a good player and I want to be a better player, I take this game seriously especially in the long forum format. I just wish that the best strategy was to be myself but from experience I don't think it is. I'll try not to overthink quite as much, I guess, but I don't know what will come from that.

Suggests trying to be open with all of their thoughts and that IMO their tone was overall good here, though not to a clearing degree.

Not to mention, them "not stating the obvious" was actually the clear cause of them getting into a TvT for said Grasslands game. (<- Link to a huge post about it)

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:06 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:57 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not saying this to defend myself and I'm not even sure if it's AI, I'm just thinking out loud:

I put a lot of thought into my posts as either alignment. I double check things and write things down and make sure my tone isn't wrong or forced. It feels restrictive but I do it anyway since I don't want to be in the PoE and I hate being yeeted. Turbos and video mafia feel more freeing since I can actually be myself without having to look at my posts under a microscope since I don't have the time to do that. Maybe I should stop overanalyzing my posts, I don't know, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to accept the downturn in results I think will come from that. I like being a good player and I want to be a better player, I take this game seriously especially in the long forum format. I just wish that the best strategy was to be myself but from experience I don't think it is. I'll try not to overthink quite as much, I guess, but I don't know what will come from that.
Tone is good but is that within their scum-range....?

I initially thought this was a response to me in which case it was really good on basis of regency, but a few posts later they give a separate response to me.

But looking at their ISO for the past 30 posts or so I kinda feel like I should give them the benefit of the doubt and call them a town-lean. If they're scum then I'll learn to take greater care on reading them. However, I have this gut feeling they're playing or thinking in a similar manner as to they once were in Grasslands. Like, it feels familiar and I don't want to muddy that with thoughts of WIFOM.
It's not a direct response to anything, it's a line of thought I went down by myself after people called my tone stiff.

Yeah this does feel like the Thunal (in terms of thinking) I saw in Grasslands once.

I want to trust that gut feeling.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:17 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:13 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:08 pm

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?
Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3
Why on earth do you want to yet a claimed indie
Did I vote for you? Do I not have you at a 40% chance of being town?

Holy moley, sorry I didn't see you as a lock town 100% never gonna give you up die by yer side Bonnie Tyler holding out for a hero kinda read, but hey them's the breaks kid.
You avoided the question. Why are you voting out a claimed indie
I'm not voting for you.
JPIC isn't a claimed independent

rofl

O.o

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Like the "I'm not voting you" is worse than when Thundercat once said "You'll have my vote later" or something when he entered the game on D1 (or D0?) of shadow corridors

if only I scum-read that Marmot sock puppet more

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not saying this to defend myself and I'm not even sure if it's AI, I'm just thinking out loud:

I put a lot of thought into my posts as either alignment. I double check things and write things down and make sure my tone isn't wrong or forced. It feels restrictive but I do it anyway since I don't want to be in the PoE and I hate being yeeted. Turbos and video mafia feel more freeing since I can actually be myself without having to look at my posts under a microscope since I don't have the time to do that. Maybe I should stop overanalyzing my posts, I don't know, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to accept the downturn in results I think will come from that. I like being a good player and I want to be a better player, I take this game seriously especially in the long forum format. I just wish that the best strategy was to be myself but from experience I don't think it is. I'll try not to overthink quite as much, I guess, but I don't know what will come from that.

Tone is good but is that within their scum-range....?

I initially thought this was a response to me in which case it was really good on basis of regency, but a few posts later they give a separate response to me.

But looking at their ISO for the past 30 posts or so I kinda feel like I should give them the benefit of the doubt and call them a town-lean. If they're scum then I'll learn to take greater care on reading them. However, I have this gut feeling they're playing or thinking in a similar manner as to they once were in Grasslands. Like, it feels familiar and I don't want to muddy that with thoughts of WIFOM.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:47 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:09 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:38 pm Congratulations to the following players.

@Justplayingitcool
@nutella
@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@MartinGG99

Random.org has selected you as my tribunal. Please wait for more information.
look I'm going to make things simple for you as to why this is a bad idea

Martin's content quality and activity < Anyone else's content quality and activity

also there clearly isn't a discerning purpose to this if you've just Random.Org'ed it
So what's the problem then?

Also, why is my name on here?

the problem is that I am going to be notoriously unreliable at that point in time given my lack of effort and time into the game

I mean, there's no good purpose to it and generally speaking I like things that have a discerning (i.e. regarding judgment of a subject) purpose to them.

If you randomly select a person then clearly this isn't related to them specifically and thus has no discerning purpose with respect to them.

In short, its pointless and not worthwhile even though it may be interesting IMO

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:38 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:28 am Weak reason, you should be ashamed.
is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here
I think I've seen scum say similar before, but generally to partners rather than townies. I have a weak townread on Michelle just because of the amount of content she's giving and that she seems fairly comfortable (and I think those things are AI for her).

So do you think such a read by me at that time (either by how it was formed or what it is) is wrong?

Or are you just giving an example or note for something that you think is >rand town but not impossible for mafia to do or say?

Like you basically start off saying that "Mafia can do X" or they have in the past under X circumstance, then not comment on the plausibility of it, and then for some reason give your own reasons or read on Michelle without ever saying that you think I'm right or wrong for what I thought or did.

Like, this feels and looks more focused on your position with regards to Michelle rather than answering my question in a practical manner.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:32 am @MartinGG99 who is mafia?

idk

all I know are a few people who I feel or think are likely town and how useless I am as town for the moment

I haven't had much time to spend on the game for the past 2 days due to college course commitments and a hefty load of non-FM reading to do

but I should hopefully be able to spend much more time on D2 and maaayyyybbbeeee D3 than I have already

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:28 am Weak reason, you should be ashamed.
is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here
I don't play at mafia scum Martin, but I am playing with mafia scum peeps at MU and here.
Please find a real reason for your read

it's the only reason I got so far

if a "real reason" is reading the last who-knows-how-many-posts-in-this-game and then vomitting out reads based exclusively on content

then I can't do that I gotta cut corners and find something I can reasonably trust

also I meant mafia or scum or wolves....y'know the bad guys

actually I take that back

idk how active you are in this game so I might be too ignorant for that to be useful

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:35 am I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that

are you implying that you've had a hard time reading anything else they've said or done?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:31 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:27 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:04 pm you're so aggro on here lol
hows tim so far
I will give twenty to one odds that if Syn answers this at all it is some variation on "unreadable."

I like this

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:28 am Weak reason, you should be ashamed.

is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:04 pm you're so aggro on here lol

hows tim so far

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:24 pm Hyena might be town here actually. There is some information rocking around in my brain that says that this is his town meta.
in 2 words or less can you please describe the difference between Hyena's town meta and wolf meta?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm for me? please? love you
okay ur mafia im actually serious. super confident ur mafia. ur mafia. i think u popped in and tried to look towny. ur mafia

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

while I haven't been in the game much

to me it looks like this could fail for two reasons

1) They could be very silly or its just a personalized way of reacting to stuff
2) "Look towny" is a very broad thing because there are so many ways one can be town but not look it and vice versa

so how come they are your biggest scum out of the 27 players so far

is there like more evidence than just 1 single thing is what I would like to know more tbh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:16 pm Nutella seems town. That whole "idk why more peopel aren't townreading me for topposting on day 0" thing is a pretty clear sign

Lol.

Where was that anyways? Would like to see the context first.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:54 pm how about making alison give abilities to non-consensus-townreads? people that are in the middle of everyone's reads?

because townread people are already incentivized to die, and with their death goes the permanent powerboost from alison

so making alison turn null people into trackers, and then forcing those people to out their tracking result could produce some good content to solve alignments from, no?

even if we are worried that people might lie, it will still technically solve and produce content

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:56 pm Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

i don't think you want my input

but hey if it can help solve me or whatever it is with Alison's ability-giving-ability

then maybe we should be all-ears?

That or we can end me for lack of benefit at some point in the future

going to be here for the next 2 hours or less before I have to go to sleep

feel free to murder me by then

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:38 pm Congratulations to the following players.

@Justplayingitcool
@nutella
@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@MartinGG99

Random.org has selected you as my tribunal. Please wait for more information.

look I'm going to make things simple for you as to why this is a bad idea

Martin's content quality and activity < Anyone else's content quality and activity

also there clearly isn't a discerning purpose to this if you've just Random.Org'ed it

like as far as I can tell its all flavor and I was about to ignore it but wth no one is supposed to be dead afaik

how come the poll has an option

specifying the dead, the host, and the non-players?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:58 pm 15) To ensure nothing is missed and no mistakes are made, please submit all communication to BOTH Hosts (Epignosis and dunya). Thanks!

echoing this btw

hi everyone

quick note that I'm a pre-game replacement (see: signup poll) but I'll try to attend to this large game as much as I can

but at some points or days my time may be very limited

The Syndicate

Search found 274 matches

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]