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by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:15 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

I just really hated that post

prob more than I should've

but that felt real bad to me
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:14 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Syn wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.
caught and panicking

she's already breadcrumbing the AtE

wait until the crescendo
hey if Tutuu flips town

can I murder this slot?

cuz that "caught and panicking" is bullshit; you can paint any high-activity player as panicking easily if you want to
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:11 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.
then whats the point of early votes

if everyone knew that then early votes would have 0 value
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

tutuu wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:09 pm sloonei just changed his vote to martin, not sure if relevant but i wanted it noted itt
say wat
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:07 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

112 wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:05 pm why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back
because association reads and not anything concrete as far as I can tell

(they're bad for reasons I've said like 20-30 minutes earlier)
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:06 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:55 pm Cat will be the day 1 chop. Sorry about your vanity cases. Make comfort with this fact people.
I'm gonna hard push Falcon to make sure we don't have a runaway under your overpowering will.
Image
MacDougall wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
Deux
The progressions. Like lines in the sand ever so unparalleled. Always destined to cross paths and to arrive at their final destinations. Written in the stars like death.

[giant case of quotes on Cat after his minutes earlier paragraph on Cat being scum]
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:16 pm [unrelated quotes snipped from quote]

I don't really know. TBH, I don't really care at this point.


I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:11 pm [VOTE: VOTE CAT] aubergine


Guess how long it took me to go thru the ISO?
It took them 19 hours to look into or vote cat despite not only responding to a post mentioning cat is scum, but also being present at the time Mac puts out the case when falcon says he has no idea?

[For context, when he was saying "I don't know", he was seemingly being sarcastic towards Tim and for some reason wanted other players to motivate him to do ISO's...]

like wth you don't do this as any alignment IMO

and why did the cat vote requisite needing to go through the ISO
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:37 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

I guess I treat it as I don't do post-flip association reads unless I have a warrant to do so

I don't wish to scum-read on association without independent evidence in the first place
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:35 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Marmot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:11 pm I still think it's worth looking into. Yes we could be wrong and hit townies, but we run that risk regardless of our strategy.
Hmmm I should've considered that

good point
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:29 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

tutuu wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:26 pmjumped the shark
What does this saying mean anyways?

I think I've heard it before but I never really knew what it meant since it sounds really silly.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:27 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:18 pm So the "falcon wagon" was always there, just sitting empty at the time?
It would appear so.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I also forgot to do my vote -_-
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:24 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:20 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:52 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:41 am So Kyle is self-silencing in order to charge up a role?

If he's not evil, then why would the scum team allow this? Surely it would be something harmful to them.

Moreover, why would a town Kyle assume that he's safe to just announce it? Wouldn't a safer plan be to just *be silenced*? Like Sloonei purportedly is?

Silencer role is dead, it was a scum role. But Kyle announced his thing on Day 1, before cat was yeeted. I only just now found out about Kyle's charge-up punch, but just how foregone was the conclusion that cat was going down at the time he announced?

Maybe scum-Kyle realized he couldn't hide behind a silencing role in order to charge his ability, and chose to announce it instead when he knew cat was going down.

Then the theorized Universal Backup used the silence on Sloonei... this would have been a surprise to the scum team, or else they could have used that as an excuse why Kyle was silent on Day 2, and he could have kept it secret.

All in all, why isn't Kyle dead if he's a villager claiming a powerful role?

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
I'm not sure if the first underlined makes sense. If he were silenced instead of mac out of no-where that could be very suspicious, especially if there's multiple silences going on.

As for the 2nd underline, I suspect that since this is GoC (based on name) we could have a lot of PR's in the game. If that's the case, then given say a 7-mafia team they could have 2 or 3 ways of dealing or counteracting that.

I also think we might want to consider that if he could choose when to use his claimed ability, he did so knowing Cat died and flipped.

I kinda want to vote him but I think that's just my playstyle bias working against him there.
What do you mean "instead of Mac"?
Well, wouldn't a lower-thread-influence player being silenced instead of a higher thread presence player be very strange?

Mac is just suggested as an example, since I town-read him.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:21 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Well, I mean, I feel like !wolf Tutuu really has a "teamwork" or "for the team" effort spirit to it. I doubt she would waste an opportunity she could have optimized if she knew the flip of a player that was possibly getting deleted.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:20 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

MacDougall wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:28 am tl;dr

Tutuu's progression on cat is fishy. Her reasoning for her read was weak and when asked for evidence she couldn't really provide any. She drops the cat defense by townreading Falcon and then starts day 2 voting Falcon after Falcon's c/w flips mafia. She, much like our flipped mafia friend, spends time towards the EOD defending Thunal. The mafia then kill Thunal's biggest adversary in the thread.
I'm not convinced. I personally think tutuu would have harder stances on Cat (either way) presuming she were mafia/of-the-same alignment to make the most out of it.

If I recall she specifically likes power-wolfing (and in one particular game really wanted to protect her teammates) but as town she tends to really make a lot of reads (including wrong ones such as the one on !wolf LC in grasslands). It's only inevitable that at some point that will be on a mafia and I would look to some other standard for possible partner-y interactions such as using multiple flipped mafia as evidence or arguments how her playstyle so far benefits or attempts to benefit the mafia team.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:03 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Its just kinda risky or pointless to go into post-flip association at this stage of the game IMO. Maybe later if we're down to 10 players or something.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:03 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

not to mention there was that big shadow corridors game where mafia was down to 1 player after losing quite a few players in the first few day phases

and they won

so I could see that as like inspiration to the mafia team and not be so protective in the early game especially if they have players to spare

then again one could argue that the silencing ability was really important to the mafia ability and therefore they should've or likely defended Cat on d1

etc etc etc
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Marmot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:49 pm Btw, has anyone done cat analyses yet? I'll start there and/or iso him myself.
Honestly I don't think its worth reading into it for me

because if it is a big mafia team then there could be good arguments for both trying to push and trying to protect cat as being scum

and I think the nuances of that could be confused for the wrong alignment especially in such a big game where even I wouldn't be surprised if at least one town had some bad interaction

at the very least I hope to find something independently scummy and not just "Oh they had X interaction with person with Y flip, therefore they must be evil/scum/mafia!"
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:57 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Marmot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:33 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:26 pm
tutuu wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:22 pm everyone whos single on valentines day

where my single homies at

hi5

i was just getting a bit sad earlier but then i thought - its okay that we single, it doesnt take away from our worth, our value isnt dependent on whether or not we currently in a relationship or not

life good
Hi5

It's ok to be single, and it's ok to be sad about it sometimes (I think so anyway, as I certainly am).

Thanks fellow single pal! :hug:
Personally I'm single and I'm prepared for the possibility of being single for the rest of my life if need be.

Not that I don't desire any deep relationships, but the current select & few friendships I have outside of FM is something I look forward to for the rest of my life. I think one can lead a purposeful life by simply supporting their friends in meaningful relationships and being a member of society.
I also have a small group of wonderful friend, although sexy sex is a wonderful addition to life, so personally I'd prefer to not be perma-single :P
Lol. I understand that. I mean, personally dealing with the thought of never really experiencing that (as my past depression liked to think) was quite difficult since sometimes being a partner is attached to self-worth. But all the more important to emphasize one can be of worth in alternate ways or that intimate relationships should not be attached to self-worth at all.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:52 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Long Con wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:41 am So Kyle is self-silencing in order to charge up a role?

If he's not evil, then why would the scum team allow this? Surely it would be something harmful to them.

Moreover, why would a town Kyle assume that he's safe to just announce it? Wouldn't a safer plan be to just *be silenced*? Like Sloonei purportedly is?

Silencer role is dead, it was a scum role. But Kyle announced his thing on Day 1, before cat was yeeted. I only just now found out about Kyle's charge-up punch, but just how foregone was the conclusion that cat was going down at the time he announced?

Maybe scum-Kyle realized he couldn't hide behind a silencing role in order to charge his ability, and chose to announce it instead when he knew cat was going down.

Then the theorized Universal Backup used the silence on Sloonei... this would have been a surprise to the scum team, or else they could have used that as an excuse why Kyle was silent on Day 2, and he could have kept it secret.

All in all, why isn't Kyle dead if he's a villager claiming a powerful role?

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
I'm not sure if the first underlined makes sense. If he were silenced instead of mac out of no-where that could be very suspicious, especially if there's multiple silences going on.

As for the 2nd underline, I suspect that since this is GoC (based on name) we could have a lot of PR's in the game. If that's the case, then given say a 7-mafia team they could have 2 or 3 ways of dealing or counteracting that.

I also think we might want to consider that if he could choose when to use his claimed ability, he did so knowing Cat died and flipped.

I kinda want to vote him but I think that's just my playstyle bias working against him there.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:41 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

How come there's no votes on the Falcon45ca wagon (Like, not a single vote)?

and why are there 4 votes on Tutuu?
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:33 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Marmot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:26 pm
tutuu wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:22 pm everyone whos single on valentines day

where my single homies at

hi5

i was just getting a bit sad earlier but then i thought - its okay that we single, it doesnt take away from our worth, our value isnt dependent on whether or not we currently in a relationship or not

life good
Hi5

It's ok to be single, and it's ok to be sad about it sometimes (I think so anyway, as I certainly am).

Thanks fellow single pal! :hug:
Personally I'm single and I'm prepared for the possibility of being single for the rest of my life if need be.

Not that I don't desire any deep relationships, but the current select & few friendships I have outside of FM is something I look forward to for the rest of my life. I think one can lead a purposeful life by simply supporting their friends in meaningful relationships and being a member of society.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:28 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

Hyena wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:23 am
tutuu wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:24 pm Hyena might be town here actually. There is some information rocking around in my brain that says that this is his town meta.
in 2 words or less can you please describe the difference between Hyena's town meta and wolf meta?
Kylemii wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm for me? please? love you
okay ur mafia im actually serious. super confident ur mafia. ur mafia. i think u popped in and tried to look towny. ur mafia

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine
while I haven't been in the game much

to me it looks like this could fail for two reasons

1) They could be very silly or its just a personalized way of reacting to stuff
2) "Look towny" is a very broad thing because there are so many ways one can be town but not look it and vice versa

so how come they are your biggest scum out of the 27 players so far

is there like more evidence than just 1 single thing is what I would like to know more tbh
Martin, what was this?
It was a post directed at Tutuu (as we can plainly and clearly read), and I'm not sure why you're asking me this.
by MartinGG99
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:25 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]

Hyena wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:31 am @MartinGG99
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:09 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:38 pm Congratulations to the following players.

@Justplayingitcool
@nutella
@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@MartinGG99

Random.org has selected you as my tribunal. Please wait for more information.
look I'm going to make things simple for you as to why this is a bad idea

Martin's content quality and activity < Anyone else's content quality and activity

also there clearly isn't a discerning purpose to this if you've just Random.Org'ed it
Martin is scum, y'all. He doesn't want to be held accountable for his content!
Is this a joke?
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:35 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Idk about marmot either, I haven't really made a judgment on him either.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:34 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Vote Count wrote: Cat (10)
Voters: nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Made, tedxtr, falcon45ca, MacDougall, Timsup2nothin, Dyslexicon, Marmot

falcon45ca (6)
Voters: Thunal33, cat, MartinGG99, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, Master Radishes

Hyena (2)
Voters: Sloonei, Kylemii

Marmot (1)
Voters: 112

nutella (2)
Voters: Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33 (4)
Voters: DrWilgy, dyachei, TonyStarkPrime, Michelle

TurnipHead (1)
Voters: Hyena
I kinda like the look of this vote count. I'm okay with either Cat, Falcon, or Hyena being deleted here.

Idk about Turnip since I've never seen him and idk why Hyena is voting there
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:26 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Long Con wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:19 pm And I am better in the later game than the early. Right now I feel like I'm in a crowd where everyone is talking at once and they all sound the same.
LC is just plausibly town

I'm calling it
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:24 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm Voting Thunal. Lets see what happens.
what happens is that martin gets mad at people again for voting thunal even though he's done that before (to apparently no effect) and so he gets condemned to an asylum for meeting the definition of insanity.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:21 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Marmot wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:04 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:59 pm how come no one is explaining to me why we're killing cat

I would really appreciate it if, for example,

someone told me who or what started the Cat wagon

because that *totally* couldn't affect reads based on cat's flip
Here is Mac's case, or at least the first post (of three)
Reading/lightly skimming the first two

I think that's a satisfactory case and I don't see much or any of a counter argument to it unless we start conjecturing some things of what Cat must've been thinking but never said in a towny light.

I'm not sold on Made though; I've seen (and quite frankly experienced) towns being portrayed as partners to someone as the sole explicit reason of being scum and then getting mischopped for it.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:06 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Thunal33 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:03 pm Is this game open night or closed night?
We don't know D:

It wasn't mentioned apparently. But quite a few people are requesting it be closed.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:04 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Thunal33 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:02 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:59 pm how come no one is explaining to me why we're killing cat

I would really appreciate it if, for example,

someone told me who or what started the Cat wagon

because that *totally* couldn't affect reads based on cat's flip
I don't remember who started it, but nutella gave some ISOs of Cat in previous games and said that Cat was more like their scum game, and I read the ISOs and agreed. I feel like now they're different from both metas and their reaction to being wagoned looks towny.
okay thank you

but I would caution against perhaps re-reading them for being different after their past games were mentioned.

In that case they may be trying to shake things up regardless of alignment.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

like even if its really short I would appreciate it

(other than "because they're scum")
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:59 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

how come no one is explaining to me why we're killing cat

I would really appreciate it if, for example,

someone told me who or what started the Cat wagon

because that *totally* couldn't affect reads based on cat's flip
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:56 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

also I'm tired of seeing these stupid reasons for voting Thunal (aside from Dya's seemingly tone-gut reason for voting thunal that I disagree with)

ofc I haven't been in the thread 24/7 so idk if there's other reasons
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:55 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

MacDougall wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:41 pmDoes it?
quite frankly

I don't even know how forgetting a role was scum-sided in a past game is a scum slip in the first place

I mean, its not like towns don't know if a role is scum-sided or town-sided and that only scum know

like how is that even a "slip", even if we assume that's an intentional omission rather than forgetfulness
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Sloonei wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:30 pm [gigantic block of text on Hyena]
Sloonei wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:06 pm I have to leave shortly. I won't be around for the deadline. I like my vote on Hyena and encourage others to look there. Here is my most recent argument about him, in addition to things that were said earlier in the phase, pre-claim.

The other multi-vote wagons right now appear to be cat, falcon, nutella, and thunal. If I'm ranking them in order of preference I'd go:
cat
Thunal
Falcon
[A wide gap]
nutella

But all of the nutella votes feel like leftovers from an bygone era way back at the start of this phase a hundred years ago, so I don't think she's a viable wagon anyway. I think I want to leave my vote on Hyena to at least promote him as an option as we move toward the deadline. Thank you for your support, Kyle. I prefer cat over Thunal if things do not change from their current trajectory. If I can keep an eye on the thread while I'm at work, I will, but there's no guarantee of that.

This has been probably the highest volume Day 1 I've ever participated in. Excellent work, y'all. Let's make it a successful one. Keep doing what needs to be done.
I would agree overall with your hyena case, and I'll likely sheep it in the future if there's no one else who should be executed.

However, I do recall the role that was used in U-Pick, which I'm guessing its being referred to. I would like to point out there's a distinct difference between "I can communicate with any dead player" (which is what U-Pick had, I believe) and "I can chose someone who's alive to have a chat with someone who is dead each phase". Regardless though I believe both roles aren't necessarily or inherently towny, but I think its an important distinction nonetheless to make.
Keep doing what needs to be done
"What needs to be done" is for people to not scum-read Thunal. As I've said I feel like they're quite similar, or at least in mindset or thought process, as compared to their Grasslands game.

I really would not like to believe they can replicate that as scum until they prove me wrong. It'll just cause problems for me in future games with them if I keep on fearing "but what if they're just really really good at copying their town game".
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:32 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Not to say that's because of Dya or anything;

Part of my town-read on Tutuu is because I think some of the reasons that support her being town rn would suggest against being masons with anyone.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:31 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Marmot wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:23 pm Or is dya your mason/mafia buddy?
I really doubt this.

I town-read tutuu, and I'll leave it at that.
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:27 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

nutella wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:40 pm hello hosts please close thread at night sincerely everyone
I second this

I used to like open nights but now I tend to like them closed as a good break away from the stresses of FM
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:24 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

so quick question

what exploded and why is it responsible for 10 votes on cat

last time I was here trying to get more than 4 votes on anyone was a dream
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:23 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

I also haven't been impressed by Falcon other than his consistency in trying to be funny with Gifs.

(Which tbh I kinda view jokes as close to null/NAI, if not scum-lean but that may be just personality differences)
by MartinGG99
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:28 pm I think my reasons are stronger, but I endorse yours as well.

@tutuu @MartinGG99 @Thunal33

Would you mind summarizing why you are on Falcon?
There isn't a "summary" because its really simple.

They mentioned their vote like...in a bad way. I was pinged similarly (and correctly) in Shadow Corridors by a sock-puppet responding to someone pressuring them on D0 that "they'll have their vote tomorrow" or something.

Like, I don't know what you think, but towns rarely think publicly of their vote except for like consolidating it / finding an EoD solution.

Additionally, mentioning one's own's vote really doesn't help to solve anyone, and its just weird.

So it just ends up looking like a bad knee-jerk reaction (considering time stamps) to me that was influenced by self-consciousness.
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:17 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:13 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:07 pm JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town
You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?
Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3
Why on earth do you want to yet a claimed indie
Did I vote for you? Do I not have you at a 40% chance of being town?


Holy moley, sorry I didn't see you as a lock town 100% never gonna give you up die by yer side Bonnie Tyler holding out for a hero kinda read, but hey them's the breaks kid.
You avoided the question. Why are you voting out a claimed indie
I'm not voting for you.
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:39 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

rip BBcode

only "somehow" was meant to be italicized
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:39 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

dyachei wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:30 pm she normally gets this spark of joy or excitement when she solves and it's not there
Would this imply that, if she were somehow mafia, then its not multiball? Just only maybe mafia and 3p's that the town has to deal with?

I mean, I would enjoy this time to develop and see if I can find 3p's, or better yet, a 2nd factional wolf team. And then get promptly executed by D2/D3 for being incapable of not mimicing town! Martin.
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:34 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Marmot wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:30 pm Oh wait, the vote ends tomorrow, not today
say WHAT

I though it been 3 days already....

Oh wait that was due to D0
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:23 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:12 pm Anything important?
Thunal is town imo.

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by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:20 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:19 pm Additionally, not "solving people" I think they may be more inclined to actually do that (solving people) more often as mafia unless they're 3p
Ebwop.
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:19 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

dyachei wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:04 pm so like lots of people talking about my thunal vote but not many people telling me their thoughts on thunal
@dyachei, I hope you will look at this. It goes into a bit how I feel like they're town Thunal.

Now, with regards to what you've said:
dyachei wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:07 pm thunal in every game you've towned in that I've seen, you've had a solving spark. in this game you're pretty dull so far

it's concerning and I don't think game type matters
I'm not sure if a "solving spark" is a good enough thing to look into. I mean its a big vague as it doesn't seem to specify if it is looking at, for example, motivation or just the happenstance of actually solving people. Or if its simply gut feeling.

I would disagree with motivation, I feel like they're motivated a fair bit even though they as of late have said they're demotivated.

Additionally, "not solving people" I think they may be more inclined to actually do that more often as mafia unless they're 3p. Reason being that by extension knowing you're a factional evil and all the other evils in your faction, regardless if there is multiball, means anyone who's not you or your buddies is more likely to be town than it is for any town who's unaware of everything.

Not to mention, this has 27 players in it. you could presumably throw out a strong town-read or two and get away with it without boxing oneself in.

If this "solving spark" refers to something else, please let me know.
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:07 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:58 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:45 pm also wth

why is tutuu on 3 votes

IMO she has to have had to step up her mafia game a bit otherwise she's not mafia
Fight me. :3

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine
Nah.

Apparently there was a claim by you at some point?

Also last I popped in you were interacted with a lot when I saw and I really doubt that I can read it all efficiently with good thoughts in the next 54 minutes.
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:45 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

also wth

why is tutuu on 3 votes

IMO she has to have had to step up her mafia game a bit otherwise she's not mafia
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:44 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

Honestly though I want to stick to my guts about it because I would be very satisfied if I was right
by MartinGG99
Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:43 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]

tutuu wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:41 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:31 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine
mac either I'm wrong or you're wrong

and I am contractually obligated by my bias to tell you you're wrong
what if thunal is 3p then whos wrong thats like division by 0 dude
Actually, that's fair. I'm terrible at catching 3p's.

I still feel like they're unlikely to be mafia. Mayyybeeee 3p but I haven't looked into that.

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