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When making up claims, make up a claim that can talk, it makes it easier.
Though not as effective in the end.
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Actually I had Kyle as "town but not towny enough to match kills with the wolf." Also was expecting a vig shot from town so I was trying to shoot in the midrange. If I had read Scotty's flip I'd have known there was no vig and just shot you. My bad.
This was sweet, but I would have had to recharge my mace.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:35 pm oh dang. tim could have won if we let him kill 1 more time.
@Timsup2nothin ♡♡♡
I'm sorry I voted to lynch u.
I would have let u kill me tonight. u should have said.
it was fun playing with u. it seemed like you chose to help town. thanks for choosing town.
LOL...yeah well I did almost as mush for the town as the town did put together...but there's no such thing as "moral victory." I had a narrow path and could not afford that one bad read.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:16 pmyou played it very well!! you almost won! actually you was town vig right? so u did win!Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.
Yeah it was. I was really excited!!! Had to actively tone down so people wouldn't think I was wolfing day one.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:15 pmwas that really your first 3p???Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.
To get my win con at that point I would have had to talk town into gathering at a shrine to charge up my mace and letting me kill someone. I think town would have said "or we just chop you and end it without risk." I know what I'd do as town there.
That's all I've got. I can go to nay shrine, any time...no three day wait, nothin'. But all the shrines are just shrines and they don't do anything in particular for me. I get septims (coin of the realm) based on how many other people are at the shrine I visit...and that's it unless I collect enough to buy a writ. Writs are cool, because the Morag Tong always comes through...if the kill is blocked or something they just will kill the target the next night. Unfortunately, as the number of players shrank my ability to get coins fell with it so I only got to use it once.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:49 am Tim I need like all of the information and not just the helpful stuff
Coins buy writs, and writs get people assassinated. Ask Mac.
I have no particularly useful abilities for the situation at hand. If you want to know how many people go to a particular shrine I can get a headcount at any shrine you want. At a guess the 3P is lying abiut where they go at night since they are probably going to Molag Ball every night. I've gone twice and gotten one coin each time.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:01 pm Now, the question becomes what’s the best use of night actions. I’m still not 100 percent sure, I have a little more digging to do. A few more questions:
@Gavial can you tell me what all of your shrines do? I have a general idea but I’m looking for some specifics on tracks/watches.
@Timsup2nothin pls claim stuff
@Long Con i have a basic idea of how your power works, but can you say it again for me? The thread is long and I’m looking for an easier solution
seemed a good prospect
They wouldn't. But that apparently doesn't matter to Gavial.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:15 pmwhy would mafia kill one of their own?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:05 pmSo we have arrived at the N3 killed...on Mac, who was mafia...was done by Falcon, who was mafia. Well that would explain why he never countered my claim.
the never ending quest for coins...and yes someone was there besides me because I got coinsDaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:13 pmtim i know where u went. it was Molag Bal's shrine. why did u go there tim?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:07 pmYes you should...and yes I am here intermittently. I'm reading the thread.
that isn't a nice shrine tim. that is the 3rd party shrine tim.
Yes you should...and yes I am here intermittently. I'm reading the thread.
I have not kept really close track of all the twists and turns in your trail Gav.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:36 pmDude if I would have tracked you doing nothing I would have said it Day 5 LMAO you know this because I said this Day 5 or did you forgot?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:35 pmMight I ask how you are calling me the killer and also claiming to have tracked me doing nothing on the night of a kill?
Remember how I didn’t receive an action on my result towards you and then was given a result that I received no result because I failed for some reason to perform my action?
Yeah that's different.
Was it though?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 pm oh i'm also cleared because the result of me chaosing on n1 was visible in game
Yeah I did. On N3. That's when I got enough coinage to take out a hit. But N1, N4, N7...there's a pattern there, and it isn't me.
I'll vote.
If they happen to have busdriven with whoever your actions targeted then you would get a realing on someone other than who you think you read. I assume someone already said that.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:44 am if Vulgard is mafia, and they are telling the truth about being a bus driver. then could they have messed with my nite actions? could my results be incorrect?
@Timsup2nothin @TonyStarkPrime @Long Con
@Kylemii @Master Radishes
Radishes, how do you feel about pies?
@VulgardTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 6:53 am nah somethin somethin coins it doesn't work like that
Full wagon vengeful?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:48 pm if marmot has a "i can redirect the lynch but only if I'm chopped unanimously" power then I'll throw a temper tantrum or something
They handled me exactly the same at one point, and wolves have to REALLY overcome their nature to do that. If one sees another wolf case Falcon (partner) then vote a town on a weak case they do not say "hey I know, I'll make a case on Falcon and then vote on that same town, just like they did." Like, they CAN, because WIFOM, but it comes very unnaturally.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:43 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:42 pmOh, one other thing I am genuinely confident of, a red flip on Radishes or Vulgard should be taken as a lock clear on the other. They are NOT both bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:39 pmIt’s still VERY hard for me to process this as not true. Especially if marmot flips town.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:38 pm The only legacy I have is that I don't want anyone to take my "one in Radishes/Vulgard" theory as some sort of great truth if I die. I almost always overstate my confidence level and I am mostly just fucking lost. The only read I have that I think is worth following, currently, is that LC is town.
If marmot flips 3p, I’m still confident in 1+ of them being bad
Why is that?
Oh, one other thing I am genuinely confident of, a red flip on Radishes or Vulgard should be taken as a lock clear on the other. They are NOT both bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:39 pmIt’s still VERY hard for me to process this as not true. Especially if marmot flips town.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:38 pm The only legacy I have is that I don't want anyone to take my "one in Radishes/Vulgard" theory as some sort of great truth if I die. I almost always overstate my confidence level and I am mostly just fucking lost. The only read I have that I think is worth following, currently, is that LC is town.
If marmot flips 3p, I’m still confident in 1+ of them being bad
Spam posting the thread is not the Easter Bunny, it most definitely exists. You should believe in this.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:30 pmI’m getting close to 1k in the thread so I probably would have petered off a bit once I reached it.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:29 pmIf I had 500 posted would you have been able to keep up? Would you have tried?
I don’t believe in spam posting the thread*
*too much
Artifact destroyed on achieving win con is where I am getting the concern that the 3P can just win and disappear. So if we start N7 at 4-2-1 and the wolves kill a town and the 3P kills a different town AND disappears that makes it 2-2 SoD and that's game.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:19 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:15 pmNot even necessarily ill willed dangerous. I am moderately convinced the 3P is the mysterious vig...probably accessing Molag Ball's shrine every third night and using the mace to kill someone. Who they kill is probably driven by their own wincon and they might kill someone in the POE, maybe a mafia, but if their wincon requires targeting a particular race and the only one of that race they know of is one of our towniest towns...too bad town. Plus if they win they are likely to just disappear themselves and that is an extra elimination also.
Bottom line if everything goes wrong we can find ourselves at SoD8 with an "it's 2-2, congrats wolves" notice staring us in the face and all we control between now and then is two chops.
Oh, when I use the word dangerous here, I'm thinking strictly in terms of "do we need to eliminate them or not?"
The OP seems to imply, to my understanding, that the 3P can achieve their win con before the game ends (and it wouldn't end the game), and that they may be someone we have to eliminate before, but not after that happens.
What do you think?
Not even necessarily ill willed dangerous. I am moderately convinced the 3P is the mysterious vig...probably accessing Molag Ball's shrine every third night and using the mace to kill someone. Who they kill is probably driven by their own wincon and they might kill someone in the POE, maybe a mafia, but if their wincon requires targeting a particular race and the only one of that race they know of is one of our towniest towns...too bad town. Plus if they win they are likely to just disappear themselves and that is an extra elimination also.
Yeah. There is nothing really AI confirming in them though.
Valid point.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:05 pmraise your hand if your name is MR or Daisy or Gav and you are the telvanni wizard and have access to that HermyTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:03 pmPlease don't. If I am right about the 3P, which is not totally farfetched, then admitting you are a Dunmer may allow them to satisfy their wincon by killing you.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm ok raise your hand if you're the telvanni wizard and you have that ability
Kza may have had some unique connection to Hermanous Mora.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm I'm not the telvanni wizard but I do have that ability on my hermy
Please don't. If I am right about the 3P, which is not totally farfetched, then admitting you are a Dunmer may allow them to satisfy their wincon by killing you.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm ok raise your hand if you're the telvanni wizard and you have that ability