The Syndicate

That was skimmed, not skilled, though that works too.

So, now to come clean regarding various lies.

Yes, of course I lied. This is a mafia game. It's what I do.

I said I might not read during the night. That was a lie. Anyone who has played with me knows I am always gonna read in the night. This is absolutely Tim Indicative. The question is, what does it mean about my alignment? To answer that you have to know WHY I lied and what I was trying to accomplish.

I said I had not caught up with the thread. That was somewhat true, but probably misleading. At that point I had read everything since I entered the game, most of it in real time, and had skilled the entire toxic waste dump from before I subbed in. Again, Tim Indicative. Again, if you want to get a read on me you need to know why I lurked about rather than participating.

I voted for Alison at the end. This might make some people think I was wolf reading Alison. That was the intent, when in fact I had no particular read on Alison at that time.

Okay, I think that's everything I needed to clean up.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:05 pm I mean, who would ever suspect the person who had them as town reads, right?

We will be assuming this is sarcasm.

Well, that's ugly. I'm guessing a town vig took a moderately bad shot and ended the Ender. RIP Alison and Ender, hopefully we bring this home for you.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:50 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:48 pm I actively encourage people to scumread me make other opinions. HK isn't scum 90% of the time here.

And no one should get towncred for this wagon. It's just necessary to be safe later

This is so true as to be meaningless. All the little vanity wagons could just as easily be wolf on wolf distancing votes as anything else, so they just don't matter.

Correct. But posts in thread are good to have for next day. If someone starts a w/w wagon but drops it next day then there's evidence

Fair.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:48 pm I actively encourage people to scumread me make other opinions. HK isn't scum 90% of the time here.

And no one should get towncred for this wagon. It's just necessary to be safe later

This is so true as to be meaningless. All the little vanity wagons could just as easily be wolf on wolf distancing votes as anything else, so they just don't matter.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:08 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pm

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:26 pm
Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)

I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:06 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:55 pm I also think the claim timing was very towny (particularly in the heat of the moment - it flowed very genuinely and I don't think he would have had time to check with wolfmates before claiming if it were fake) even if the claim itself is bad.

There's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.

I think you're right tbh. I still don't see it as fitting the "calculated deathtunnel" narrative though? Like it's not something that would come to my mind to do as a wolf in that situation as a million years and achieved nothing.

Your mind is in a very different location. It could come to Gavial's mind.

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:15 pm I was interested playing with new people.

Theres your first mistake

Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:55 pm I also think the claim timing was very towny (particularly in the heat of the moment - it flowed very genuinely and I don't think he would have had time to check with wolfmates before claiming if it were fake) even if the claim itself is bad.

There's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:46 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:27 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:26 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:24 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:23 am gavial I am putting you on ignore

Did you even look at my HK case?
OMG your the most likely player to die tonight due to the massive amount of town reads your getting and you can’t even actually try and vote off scum.
OML.

Pretty wolfy attitude IMO

Oh FUCK THIS SHIT.
I hard claim PR and we will see if your VT claim is real or not tonight.
Kill me bro I double doggy dare yeah!

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:30 am Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:39 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:30 am Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

What? I didn't make you claim anything, you did that all by yourself and with no real reason to do so. Don't put that shit on me, own your posts.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:42 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:39 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:30 am Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

What? I didn't make you claim anything, you did that all by yourself and with no real reason to do so. Don't put that shit on me, own your posts.

Holy shit bro no need for this external reaction!
I wasn’t talking about you.

Who reads this and thinks Gav's telling the truth re: his PR claim?

He does so with a knee jerk post after I called him wolfy, then explains he did so to Wiml cuz he was forced to by a wolf.


When I call him out on that, he denies it. How is this towny?

Because it's Gavial? Like, that's clearly GI, but not necessarily AI.

Someday I am gonna take a bunch of post quotes and remove the names and I bet a whole bunch of people will be able to get accurate reads...on who is who.

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:15 pm I was interested playing with new people.

Theres your first mistake

Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:41 pm If Falcon is scum they jumped the gun with that villager claim for reasons?

I agree with this but weren't you scumreading falcon?

His behavior was scummy.

is this a four word reply meaning "yes"?

well this is all very exciting

a day one chop of a 3P claim is not gonna make catching up through the night phase really productive, but HK seems to have his heart set on getting chopped here

for the record, anyone who is thinking "well he might flip wolf"...there may be a flying pigbird that sprouted wings in the game too, but it ain't likely

other than that, not much in what little I have read seems very indicative of anything

Well this was an interesting page. Maybe I'll read another page later.

I might even start doing a catch up read if I come back and there's less than a hundred new posts.

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:04 pmI'm KZA

I counterclaim.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:31 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:23 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:22 pm I don't believe Nanook claim at all

What was NANOOK even claiming? Ascetic miller?

1 shot day zero cop?

One shot day cop death miller

You want fries with that?

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:04 pm How was Gavial anti-town? He was right that HK isn't town.

- Outing yourself as a PR early on is anti-town
- Completely derailing the thread is anti-town
- Being so toxic that strong town players threaten to quit the game is anti-town
- Pushing other people into claiming this early on is anti-town (I'd have to go back and check but I think Falcon claimed because of Gavial)

And yet all NAI for Gavial. Not saying his slot is town, just pointing out that there is nothing there to read the slot on. O didn't even read it and I see nothing surprising there.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:30 pm Also hey why are we lynching hollow

We aren't. He made some suicidal 3P claim before either of us came along. I'm not even gonna read back over it because it smells like nonsense all the way from here.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:26 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:22 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:18 pm And the first thing imma complain about is that there are 20 pages and I’m not a penguin

That's technically two things, but it's allowed.

And whatever your role, you can be the bird you always wanted to be. Even an albatross can embrace their inner penguin. Haven't you heard of Jonathan Livingston Seagull?

Who?

Definitely a generational gap going on here

LOL...you just called me a young gun, and I immediately make a cultural reference that is waaaaaaaay before your time.

Kinda timeless though. Everyone should read JLS.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:18 pm And the first thing imma complain about is that there are 20 pages and I’m not a penguin

That's technically two things, but it's allowed.

And whatever your role, you can be the bird you always wanted to be. Even an albatross can embrace their inner penguin. Haven't you heard of Jonathan Livingston Seagull?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:18 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:17 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:13 pm Also I don’t recognize like half this player list

I don't recognize you either

Me neither. I recognize you, though other than in passing in a mash we've never played together I don't think.

Psh all these TS young guns, I can be the grumpy old vet in this game then

"Young guns"!!!!

<printing post>

That's one for the wall!!!

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:15 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:13 pm Also I don’t recognize like half this player list

I don't recognize you either

Rude

Well, were you being rude to the half the players you don't recognize then?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:13 pm Also I don’t recognize like half this player list

I don't recognize you either

Me neither. I recognize you, though other than in passing in a mash we've never played together I don't think.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:11 pm Don’t worry I’m here to save the game

I was not aware the game was a damsel in distress. It doesn't seem to need a lot of saving...

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:09 pm or did hollowkatt retract it?

He didn't retract, i just don't believe him.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:57 pm Is there anything else I should know before I start playing here?

Open question for everyone.

I'm 3p, gavial claimed some kind of PR

So why did you claim 3P?

Given recent games here in Syndicate land that seems suicidal.

basically to rub gavials nose in it.

Okay, Hollowkatt is town. Who's next?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:57 pm Is there anything else I should know before I start playing here?

Open question for everyone.

I'm 3p, gavial claimed some kind of PR

So why did you claim 3P?

Given recent games here in Syndicate land that seems suicidal.

Is there anything else I should know before I start playing here?

Open question for everyone.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:51 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:50 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:49 pm Hi Tim! Get on my wagon I claimed 3p @Timsup2nothin

Were you telling the truth?

No.

Why'd you do that?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:49 pm Hi Tim! Get on my wagon I claimed 3p @Timsup2nothin

Were you telling the truth?

First