The Syndicate

outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:48 pm DIE LISSA DIE

sunbae wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:59 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:42 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:35 pm Imagine I'm voting spf for the first time

town

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^i reacted to alexa saying that i was being villagery by calling myself wolfy. this is a wolftell for me, because there was no logical reason for me to actually believe that i was wolfy. i said that line because i wanted to come off as self-conscious and self-aware - two traits that wolves usually go out of their way to hide

sunbae wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:55 pm I feel like I'm the only one that's wolfed with Marl when I see people clearing super light but I think the reality is my perception of Marl's ranges are just skewed from a game or two of experience without having the rest of the games others have with them

sunbae wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:53 pm part of me wants to say "i feel like spf is simultaneously arguing about irrelevant details on things to be engaged and providing thoughts without really having to bite at someone and placating people to not get in the middle of anything strongly and I find both things wolfy". Like there was a back and forth about Tangy blending in or not with C4 but at that point tangy had already started making reads and stuff so it seemed like a relatively trivial aspect of her posting at that point. Then a quick back off on the town read once the trivial thing was proven in c4's favor instead of a "ok well thats fine but the rest of it stands, towny to me sry" or similar.

other part of me wants to say that she's just being reasonable and conceding points when she's shown she was incorrect and then reevaluating things.

meh

sunbae wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 pm ima be honest tangy i just scrolled to my name and got sadder and sadder as i had to continue scrolling

ill read the rest of it in a bit

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:40 pm Zack needs to be left alive for the memes.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:41 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:39 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:37 pm i townread vulgard, nutella, and dyslexicon. i townlean c4, marluxion, and tangrowth. if there's a wolf in this pool of names, i'm hopeful that it's only one

lol i was just thinking about how it's weird that i dont really feel strongly about the trio of you/outed wolf/sunbae in either direction. the narrative of games like these tend to revolve around players like you three, and i feel like i've existed in a separate space from you three so far in this game. i don't know if that means anything

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:37 pm i townread vulgard, nutella, and dyslexicon. i townlean c4, marluxion, and tangrowth. if there's a wolf in this pool of names, i'm hopeful that it's only one

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:18 pm Why do I have 5 players voting me?
Not that I really care much anyway since I’m multi-balling and I’m only VT.
Just a shame people don’t like me that much.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:03 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:02 pm If you believe Gavial is mafia, we should chop someone on his wagon right now. There will be mafia there if Gavial is mafia.

how does that work?

Spoiler: show

1 - (13 / 17)^5 = 73.85% of at least one wolf

if you want to assume "I am town and I am not one of those five players" = 1 - (12 / 16)^5 = 76.3% of at least one wolf

There are some underlying assumptions about votes on a wagon being independent events which isn't really true, but whatever, close enough. Been awhile since I took any stats or probability courses though. Yes this a useless post a wolf could easily make, sue me.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:45 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:33 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:23 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm I doubt you've read any game where I was a wolf.

S2G1 because our rep was in it. But mainly general reputation.

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm Are you expecting me to reach out my hand like Odin and deliver a thunderously calm bolt of lightning at the entire wolf team? You made this read well before even the halfway point of d1. It just seems like BS.

No, I don't expect you to have already nuked the wolves by now. I don't expect Alison, Amy, Arete, dya, Dizzy, Seth, Hally, KZA, Marl, nut, Visor, spf or Tang to have done so either. Interestingly enough, I've locked none of them town.

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm is that notation at the bottom of your posts supposed to be the first letter for player's usernames in a readslist or something? It's confusing to read

Si

when did i say to lock me town? that's just dismissive snark that doesn't address what I actually said. I think most everyone has me as either neutral or only slightly town or slightly mafia and I haven't given anyone shit about it or said I'm not being townread enough or anything of that nature. If you'd simply expressed a light townread or a null read on me I wouldn't have said anything, it was the "but idk since it's zack" from someone who doesn't know me that set off alarms. If you read S2G1, fair enough I guess, though I have played nothing like that game and it was six years ago anyway.

Fair, but then I don't get wtf the thunderbolt thing has to do with anything.

You have a surface level open/proactive presence that's vaguely towny but that a good wolf could almost certainly recreate. Not the "I have a very particular set of skills" variety, just a level 0 "do thing as town therefore do thing as wolf" thing that just takes a little skill and experience to navigate. Guess what I've heard you have?

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:44 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:11 pm spf I know exactly what you mean about taking issue with hally's presentation of that read while simultaneously believing amy was villagy. I don't think it actually means much (if anything) about hally's alignment though, and nutella hopping on like "yes perspective slip" and voting them made me go

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

bronana/amy/sunbae/spf

the four pillars of the village

@ dya

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seth seems nothing like the games i played with him when he was town. when he's mafia does he really just average 2 words per post and do nothing like this?

my bad, I think I just assumed nl would be in it

is...is that really gavial's meta?

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:11 pm spf I know exactly what you mean about taking issue with hally's presentation of that read while simultaneously believing amy was villagy. I don't think it actually means much (if anything) about hally's alignment though, and nutella hopping on like "yes perspective slip" and voting them made me go

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

bronana/amy/sunbae/spf

the four pillars of the village

sunbae wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:26 pm I did not read that game, no. I ... well ... how to say this. The amount of effort I want to put into this game is less than reading other games which hopefully doesn't come off as dismissive. I'd love to hear a tl;dr breakdown of the differences as that could help, but I just don't really wanna go read another game for our light game hangout fun time.

I thought Alison walking through a progression of: "People jumped on Nutella" -> "Nutella is a mischop wolves would love cause normally it'd be hard to get" -> "Wolves could be the ones pushing it then, let me look at the wagon" -> "Bronana was on the wagon and has posts that could look like an attempt to pocket Sunbae so that's the most likely wolf there" -> "Vote Bronana" is just a progression that's a step further than the early game throwaway stuff wolves typically do and instead shows a thought process of actively trying to figure out what's happening and who is doing it. Felt like wolves typically end up at "wolves pushing early wagon, let me vote someone on there, this vote looks the worst, done" instead of doing that extra step of finding which of the voters is doing other potentially wolfy things. People seem to not really agree with me there (either in principle or specifically with alison) so I'm backing off of it. I'm uh, pretty bad in my first experiences with people lol

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:23 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm I doubt you've read any game where I was a wolf.

S2G1 because our rep was in it. But mainly general reputation.

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm Are you expecting me to reach out my hand like Odin and deliver a thunderously calm bolt of lightning at the entire wolf team? You made this read well before even the halfway point of d1. It just seems like BS.

No, I don't expect you to have already nuked the wolves by now. I don't expect Alison, Amy, Arete, dya, Dizzy, Seth, Hally, KZA, Marl, nut, Visor, spf or Tang to have done so either. Interestingly enough, I've locked none of them town.

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm is that notation at the bottom of your posts supposed to be the first letter for player's usernames in a readslist or something? It's confusing to read

Si

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:25 am Most of Zack's stuff would be a lot townier if I didn't know he was Zack.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:50 am Sorta soulread Dizzy v.

Seth is plain bad but apparently it's a low-risk play to ignore him for now.

sV A bD dAA G

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:32 am

bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 am

Vulgard wrote:Tue May 25, 2021 4:23 am Marl is a villager. This is the exact part of Sunbae's posting I thought was wolfy because my perspective was opposed. I didn't explicitly say it by bringing up a quote, but Marl zeroes in on that and has my exact initial reaction.

the "zomg everyone is so villagery" post from Sunbae is a reference to a meme, not a real thought he was expressing

Sunbae's a villager based on his last page, but thanks for informing me. It looks like Marl genuinely didn't know that, either. He wouldn't fake such a triviality as a wolf, and since we share the thought and I'm V, Marl is also a villager.

Vulgard wrote:Tue May 25, 2021 4:23 am Marl is a villager. This is the exact part of Sunbae's posting I thought was wolfy because my perspective was opposed. I didn't explicitly say it by bringing up a quote, but Marl zeroes in on that and has my exact initial reaction.

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:32 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:53 pm [VOTE: arete] aubergine

sponge me mu elite bro squad

hi

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:54 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:51 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm I think nutella is town and the wolves are trying to shove through a cheap misexe on someone who is normally difficult to misexe.

This points towards mafia on her wagon, which is to say sunbae/bronana/outed wolf. Probably bronana for overexplaining his vote and trying to pocket the other two by saying they're the pillars of the town.

I never said outed wolf is towny fwiw, he isnt anything rn. (and the inclusion of sunbae and spf wasn't particularly serious, they just made posts i agree with; amy is towny tho)

i find nutella's posts and blow up here baffling but if there are good meta reasons to townread her for it then shrug, probably not worth getting into.

Talk to me about the feelings you have towards Hally.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm I think nutella is town and the wolves are trying to shove through a cheap misexe on someone who is normally difficult to misexe.

This points towards mafia on her wagon, which is to say sunbae/bronana/outed wolf. Probably bronana for overexplaining his vote and trying to pocket the other two by saying they're the pillars of the town.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm so you don't even know why you voted me? cool

visor hasn't given a reason either

worst vibes are from him tbh

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pmthe mu elite bros clique voting me for that post is probably to be expected, im probably not going to leave my wolf range given the postcap but enough people hopped on that someone is taking advantage of it

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:46 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:43 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:42 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:35 pm Imagine I'm voting spf for the first time

town

This mean you know why?

not really - i just see that you're being coy about your reasoning for finding me suspicious and keeping your cards close to your chest, which is the direct inverse of how you approached the early game as a wolf in CoV, which makes me think that youre probably just playing from a villager mindset

(you also agreed with me about arete's vote being vaguely towny even though i did not put that thought into the thread and decided to keep it to myself)

sunbae wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:41 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:39 pm a trivial debate of nitpicks and semantics over a harmless read that nonetheless reveals a villagy mindset from Amy A. Ampharos while sunbae and I slither our way into an immutable Towncore of the Driven Snow with her.

I'm making a band

im derping around on the drums
amy just being cool af on the bass
you can play guitar because why not

gotta find someone for the and a good to mix our stuff properly

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:19 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm might be a sucker but i kinda doubt w!amy dumps on zack first thing

i don’t think w!her sees zack as a viable push early on

dont wanna marsh your mellow but its an insignificant push early on in the game, i dont think anything of it. i doubt w or v amy expect to go anywhere with it (and zacks perfectly pushable cmon. just look at that face)

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:55 pm 100 with no lift is gonna be hard

I might have to *gasp* gather multiple thoughts into a single post

unthinkable

Arete you already mixed up zack and nl gg

Sunbae's entrance meh, others basically ok

Don't like c4's reaction to the votes

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:56 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:54 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:11 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:08 pm Hi! People call me bronana, zack, zapp, nl, gh, or stork. I'm texan and/or australian, somewhere between 18-65 years old, I've taken a few psychology classes in my life, and I cannot play the saxophone. I watched all of Jay's video which means I'm lickety lackety clackety battlestar galacticy town (I believe it's pronounced grenich, btw - england has some cities with interesting pronunciations).

I don't believe I've played with Arete, c4e5g3d5 (lolenglish), Dyslexicon, or Vulgard before, so I look forward to meeting you!

I helped convince Jay pre-game to buff the wolf team and then I randed village lets goooooo

Hi! I'm pretty sure we have actually played together, we were in Hydra Game 3 on MU last year (you were with Logic and I was with katze).

I thought about not mentioning that game because I'm pretty sure me and kat made every single villager in that game hate us but it might in theory be relevant?

I've never hydra'd with Logic. You must be thinking of Visorslash - a common mistake.

...are there two people called NL? because that's what I was going off of

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:55 pm 100 with no lift is gonna be hard

I might have to *gasp* gather multiple thoughts into a single post

unthinkable

Arete you already mixed up zack and nl gg

Sunbae's entrance meh, others basically ok

Don't like c4's reaction to the votes

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

am i not a wolf anymore? and what’s bad about C4’s reaction?

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:11 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:08 pm Hi! People call me bronana, zack, zapp, nl, gh, or stork. I'm texan and/or australian, somewhere between 18-65 years old, I've taken a few psychology classes in my life, and I cannot play the saxophone. I watched all of Jay's video which means I'm lickety lackety clackety battlestar galacticy town (I believe it's pronounced grenich, btw - england has some cities with interesting pronunciations).

I don't believe I've played with Arete, c4e5g3d5 (lolenglish), Dyslexicon, or Vulgard before, so I look forward to meeting you!

I helped convince Jay pre-game to buff the wolf team and then I randed village lets goooooo

Hi! I'm pretty sure we have actually played together, we were in Hydra Game 3 on MU last year (you were with Logic and I was with katze).

I thought about not mentioning that game because I'm pretty sure me and kat made every single villager in that game hate us but it might in theory be relevant?

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:09 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:08 pm I'm texan and/or australian

that's my schtick get your own

sunbae wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm Hello

Im not really able to be around right now but I wanted bronana to laugh at my avatar. I'll be around later to actually play.

Goodbye