The Syndicate

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 am That line SPF wrote about reading C4 as a villager so they should be a villager just felt super wrong

Like I get in the world where it's a joke but it's still a joke that has the intended effect to make you think along those lines

@bronana

Ordered list, I guess ?

The martyr opening too, felt like when golden went all self vote woe is me as mafia

I'm not super confident in this but I think it will be good to have some different wagons going, we've been very consensusy this game

Perhaps rightfully so, but still

That line SPF wrote about reading C4 as a villager so they should be a villager just felt super wrong

i dont think the votes on me are real

(or at least i would be confused if they are)

lol such a great pasta

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:56 pm [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

bronana wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:41 pm I have to admit I'm more comfortable being righteously subordinate than having people agree and follow my vote lol

lol yes v understandable

Hope we're right fellas

i mean i have reasons to townread c4/arete too

arete - absurdity defence
c4 - pushed dya

but c4 didnt super SOLVE dya

but he has good interactions there

so idk what to think bronanas

either aretes a wolf or someone dug deep into their pal

i think most likely to flip wolf rn is: c4/arete

and it feels super cop outy to say it, but c4 just hasnt solved the game for days and arete did arete things

i keep coming to reasons to townread the other people itg and its bugging me cause i think i should be wrong somewhere

i hate saying this but i still don't want to consider zack clear because im not a particularly confident zack reader but i think on balance he would be one of the people i would be least surprised if he flipped village

if he flipped wolf i guess it would mean i underestimated how much he was willing to bus and would have to change my mental view of zacks play (i mean he defended dya a bunch i guess - so the argument does exist - but he has positive interactions with vulgard and was on kza early and did express some issues with dya too)

NOONE

zack
nutella

probably

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:40 am

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:37 am wheres your head at spf

i feel like i can talk myself into townreading any player in this game if i think about it hard enough

i think that i'm going to have to solve this game by POE instead of by looking for the individual wolf (which is a revelation that i had earlier today, but it's really sinking in now lol). my strongest and most confident townread is nutella. i'm still working on the rest

yeah me too lol.

and agreed. i said earlier that i think this one is gonna come down to f3. everyones got something for em, so i guess its about trying to find who has the best stuff, who ya feel most confident about

wheres your head at spf

i think you have an interesting perspective on the game dys, so id really appreciate your overview when you get to it

not particularly

i havent played with you for like 5 years

so metas no help, and its hard for me to be confident in your posting this game - there are things i think are villagery about you, but not enough or that i have enough belief in that i feel i can clear you

arete i dont think its hyperbole to say your solvingness has basically tanked since vulgard died

you wanna talk about that?

[VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine

yeehaw

imnot super convicned its spf

walk me through it

who is the wolf arete?

ordered list?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:31 pm outed wolf's progression on dya was far better than i remembered. i was concerned about outed wolf coming into today because i most closely associate him with playing a big role in centering the conversation around alison/amy/dya while never directly gunning for dyachei between those three. but looking further, visor zero'd in on dya almost immediately and brought their name up as a potential wolf within pages of the game starting. i can see visor realistically hardbussing as a wolf, but if he was going to, i'm not sure it's a push that he would make so early and so aggressively. i take minor issue with the fact that he never really tried (from what i can tell) to convince other people that dya was a wolf, and his confidence in general has felt out of character to me, but i do think that outed wolf's interactions w/dya point to them being less likely teamed than not

thx now i have a higher chance of being nked

how is that my fault :P

if anything i shouldve pushed harder myseld to kill arete yday

so what do you think are the similarities and differences from that game to this game in terms of how she treated her wolfbros

talk about this grasslands game a bit

i skimmed a bit of it a while ago but what happened

its somewhat similar to zack kza

the reason why zack is upset is that he was there first

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:41 pm eh, i wouldnt say you were really considered lock clear

and i think my fear is exactly that you did something that you could say was "suboptimal" or whatever when idk if it even was, wifom etc etc

to be blunt, i pretty much was

(or at the very least that was my perspective of the gamestate)

at the very least i was considered high tier villager in lists

look nutella, your concern would be valid if i was in the poe. but it is pointless as a widely village read wolf to rock the boat.

i was a wolf with dya recently and had to bus them, but only after ladd browbeat the thread into saying that dya had to be a wolf and i didnt feel great about it lol. i wouldnt push hard against dya unless someone else was going hard on them and i was basically one of the first

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:36 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:30 pm visor, did you feel like dya was trying to appeal to you a lot?

no. (i mean maybe with a few of their posts but i didnt see them LOL)

i felt like dya p much completely ignored me this game because they knew interacting with me was a terrible idea when i wolfread them

hm, interesting

i guess they didn't directly interact with you a ton but tended to put you as town lean in lists and stuff (after null-ing you d1), and maybe the other things i'm thinking about are more indicative of tmi

but they didn't hesitate to snap and argue with me when i was hard pushing them, so why didn't they do the same to you?

frankly i think part of it was we just werent in the thread at the same times. i remember interacting with dya maybe twice this game

but wolves treat people differently for a myriad of reasons. maybe she thought she could convince you? not sure it matters.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:32 pm i think my thing with your dya stuff is like.... in a way it mirrors my own a lot, in that we were both pushing them pretty hard all game but had moments of doubt

but if you were to graph it, my moments of doubt were more frequent but softer, while yours was a sharp 180 and part of me wonders if that extreme-ness was performative

see this is a reasonable query i think

i can def be performative as a wolf but the question is: did i need to be performative?

what was the purpose of me being performative there. i was already treated as lock clear by everyone in the game. all its done is increased doubt on my slot, and i didnt need that to survive as i could kill you and zack and people arent going to go well obv nl is still alive he has to be a wolf because people also v read both you and zack

frankly, if im a wolf the game is v close to a win if i just ride the dya credit train to glory

and i dont do unncessary shit like that at this stage of the game, i am a clinical wolf, i do the most i can with the smallest amount of effort lol. theres no way i would play it up for no gain. there has to be an endgame to everything i do as a wolf and this has zero purpose given my state in thread. if i was being wolfread at the time, i think you being worried over this would be more fair cause i could do that to try and appeal to absuirdity

but i was lock clear and treated as such so...

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:30 pm visor, did you feel like dya was trying to appeal to you a lot?

no. (i mean maybe with a few of their posts but i didnt see them LOL)

i felt like dya p much completely ignored me this game because they knew interacting with me was a terrible idea when i wolfread them

literally ctrl f my posts and search dya good god nutella

keep in mind, the last wolf KNEW we were going to be heading into something like this from the start of day 3

something to think about

obv if arete is the last wolf this is pointless exercise but still

one of the things i do in turbos as a villager is when it comes to endgame that i like to decide between people who have done the same thing (i.e 2 bussers and 1 counter wagom id want to kill the counter wagon so the f3 is 2 bussers)

part of the reason i want arete dead is that he hard defended wolves and such and it should hopefully be easier when all thats left are people who pushed wolves to try and determine which one is more villagery

i think if arete isnt a wolf we're going to f3 one way or another, and i think either today or tomorrow im gonna throw all my reads out and start from scratch

might also dig up dead villa reads and see what they were most confident in too

shooting zack also makes me look wolfier

really surprised that didnt happen

ya got a similar vibe too

i tried reading the cov game but that thing was basically a mash

unusable

the person doing the least solving in thi game who is still alive is c4. thats all i know

like, i think nutella is a villager, i just dont think they can come up with some of the posts they have this game as a wolf

im willing to admit i couild be getting snowed by zack but i also think he is on balance a villager rn (or at least has gotten markedly more okay with bussing since i last played against him lol). i dont think wolf zack is interested in having 2 wolves in the bottom 4 mid day 1, but i can accept that kza was 11 posting (even though zack brought it up first - i know he has bussed dead weight before) and dya had gotten heat from me and sunbae so the argument theoretically exists

c4 is barely solving but pushed dya a bit? i can see this still being a wolf trying to ride off dya i guess

dizzy - idk my bff jill
spf - idk my bff jill

arete - idk jill

you'll have to shoot me im afraid, i dont know

im going to vote arete but my heart isnt super super in it

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:37 pm outed wolf, do you have a primary wolfread rn?

i do not

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:37 pm oh the other thing about visor i noticed was during vulgardgate he goes p hard on the team just being vul/day/c4 and believing the game is solved there

maybe he was right lol, dizzy and i both thought that one potential wifom vulgard post isn't enough to clear c4 but that we don't really feel it's him

or maybe visor was attempting to tie c4 to two wolves he could tell would go down

he seems to have pulled back from that tho so shrug

i mostly wolfread him for doing very little solving (hes clearly done the least of everyone alive)

given the safeness of the kill my guess is the wolf didnt feel threatened

but ymmv

i agree with zack with some caveats

i wouldnt have killed amy the night she died because she was doing (and i think shed agree lol) nothing. she expected to die and was clear so wasnt doing any work.

i also would probably take that time to shoot someone who is gonna get on my case later who will be clear (in this case it would be zack or someone who is super analysising my posts)

id probably not kill nutella cauee her reads can change from one post to the next

i actually thought there was a good chance zack died overnight, if i was the wolf here id have shot him, get the arete kill easy and then shoot marl the day after maybe

that said why kill marl as arete?

marl said arete was a villager

i think i did post some small snippets - dont think nutella treats her wolf bro like that

i think i said something about c4

i will try to go through it in more detail later, i dont really have the time to do extensive looking back rn

@ zack

yes i am voting arete most likely today

why would i bother replicating it when none of you know it and wouldnt pay attention anyway

you only know it because i told you

it doesnt mean anything to you

i dont think reading dyas iso for spew is a good idea, they have known they are going down early since mid d1 when sunbae and i said we thought they were like the org game

i would look at how others treated dya more than how dya treated other people

dya ignored me cause i spent all game pushing them

they did their typical call me light v stuff (i can literally go find you games where theyve done this as a wolf with me pushing them, its their attempt to get me off their back)

yeah i got very little time to solve this game so im relying on the rest of you to carry me lol

sorry pals

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm I'm here
For a couple seconds

Wolfchat alerted you eh