The Syndicate

i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

sad zack noises

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Glgl

Zack if I'm stuck in a f3 of SPF and dizzy who should I vote

(Maybe replace dizzy with Nutella)

Just sleep till f3 lmao

Make the wolves kill everyone

In Jim we trust

What's sunbaes chart say

I can't believe Nutella prefers Zacks gif to mine

Re the C4 stuff I don't get why he's clear from the vulgard stuff on d3

Vulgard knew either he had been blocked or his target had been saved (and knew he was.blocked probably when Amy claimed)

Any push or claim on C4 was obviously fake (to him) and would come out before day end?

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Let's at least make it interesting

I'm surprised arete brought up the post after death thing today and not yesterday

[VOTE: arete] aubergine

in case im not around for eod gl

if not arete who are your next two in line?

snap out of what exactly? im explaining myself to spf who is specifically talking about my confidence levels?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:41 am i might actually kill arete and c4 before i would kill dizzy

i dunno

really?

ENJOY F3 ZACK HAHAHAHAHAHA

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:28 am

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:02 am why cant he just be tmi-ing you spf?

he could be. i think that dya most likely TMI'd him as a villager in their opening posts, but i would probably immediately vote for him in a f3 scenario, because if he's a wolf then he approached this game with the specific intent to pocket me

okay.

so you think hes a villa, you think im a villa

you have.... dizzy and arete left then in your poe?

(if so - say you're wrong, where do you think you are wrong?)

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:26 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:37 pm I've been trying to catch up for the better part of an hour. I see I'm getting d1 heat again. As I always do. Because people always forget my d1s tend to suck

I like that sunbae went right to spf's how to read her guide and compared. I think that he might have been a little biased when he looked at it thoguh

I have a gut feeling about alison's alignment. I didn't like her one post but I also don't like that she hasn't come back and tried to solve the game yet

@outed wolf I gave my thoughts on amy but feels like my thoughts count for jack shit as usual

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me

i feel that the frustration in these posts were completely authentic - i have no doubt that dya was frustrated that they were being wolfread so early into the game before they had a chance to really get comfortable, and i think that these posts were dya attempting to get some of the heat off of themselves so that they could get back into the flow of things

after dyachei made that post, here are some of the posts that outed wolf made about dyachei:

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:32 am what do you think of dya spf, specifically (not like you agree with arguments others make, whats your interpretation.thoughts on their posts)

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 1:59 am So. Dya then?

Where else we thinking

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:28 pm I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time

But we are gonna end up talking about gavial tomorrow if he's alive and doing this song and dance again. Better to bite the bullet and kill him today and move on unless Yall wanna kill dya

if visor is a wolf and they see their wolf partner struggling under early pressure and clearly wanting people to back off, i don't know that he would go out of his way to ask me for my detailed thoughts on dyachei (knowing that i wolfread them at the time), nor would he go out of his way to suggest that dya be the d1 chop or to reiterate that he feels that dyachei will flip wolf most of the time

it just doesnt really feel like a bus to me. and the point where i anticipate that dyachei would ask people to bus them/distance from them came after visor started pushing on them, which makes me feel like visor is a villager that happened to play a fairly big role in concentrating the right amount of momentum against dyachei in the early game

chance of being nightkilled RISES

why cant he just be tmi-ing you spf?

literally the only read hes pushed since dya is dizzy i think (c4)

uh i think they pushed gavial a bit.... i cant recall much else?

spf: do you find me hard to understand as a player or something? mulitple times this game you have come out and stated i am very likely to be a villager for [reasons] and then you keep coming back to questioning me

are you trying to convince yourself? do you actually believe those things? whats the go

look i was super confident dya/amy were wolves, it seemed natural to me, i was wrong on amy, and got a lot of pushback from people on dya

having then shit the bed on d4, and also been wrong on amy, why wouldnt you expect my confidence level to be low?

i think all of my posts this day phase are still better than c4/aretes

shrug

this is the second game where sunbae has read dya wolf d1, and then felt bad and gone away from it

@sunbae trust your damn instincts and go for the throat pal :P

while i def pushed amy/dya

i wasnt a huge pushed of alison tbf

i went along with it because of the chance i was wrong on dya/people i thought were villagers were also pushing alison

you can see if you look back zack specifically asks me why im not pushing alison - i never had any confidence there but lacked confidence in myself to push dya over/ran out of posts lol/got browbeaten out of pushing dya on d2

sk hunting is hard man

i uh, wouldnt trust my zack read 100%

i dont actually play a huge amount of games with him (mostly because we retire every 3 games for half a year :P )

i mean i think hes a villager this game but i wouldnt feel confident betting the game on any of my reads lol

[VOTE: c4] aubergine


fuck it, yall will figure it out

[VOTE: arete] aubergine

fwiw i think c4s progression on dya isnt great

i know spf has said stuff about internally consistent but c4 doesnt actually SOLVE dyas alignment really

(idk maybe we look at he gavial stuff differently) - but it seemed very results oriented rather than understanding perspectives

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:06 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:24 am i finally become confident in voting for the person youve been saying is wolf for days and then you jump around

when everyone aligns behind me and says yeah you're right, the first think i think is "fuck i'm probably wrong"

amen

happens all the time lmao

the curious thing to me, is that we both pushed v hard on dya d1

yet we are both at least a little suspicious of each other LOL

look i want to trust past me and just say that you're a villager.

but the paranoid side of me is v scared of f3

i guess we will see with arete and c4.

i know you also pushed dya d1 spf, but ive played with jim a fair bit

ive only played with you a handful of times and not against your wolf game (metal gear honestly doesnt count)

idk, you're a good player and as such i have some paranoia, take it as a compliment :P

part of the problem is i bet dya told their wolf team mid d1 to bus them (or at least floated the possibility of having to do so) because me and sunbae pushing dya d1 is exactly what happened in the org game (where they flipped wolf) and i imagine they knew a repeat was on the cards at that point

so its hard for me to divorce a legitimate soulread on dya from riding a bus to glorytown

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:54 am

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:52 am " if she is a wolf then this is the strongest game i've ever seen her play"

(fwiw i read all of the post - but not sure i have a huge amount of questions for you)

this is something i have been thinking. i looked at some former nutella wolf light games and a lot of them are generally worse than this though there is once decentish one in there which has increased my paranoia levels. i fear we cleared nutella too early sometimes, though hally and alison both v read her so i guess i can blame them :P )

tinfoil zack instead so i can fucking die if the game doesnt end today

look im sorry but i have to tinfoil both you and zack so I die

honestly if i hadnt heard of how much of a busser you were, (from yourself no less :P) i think i would be less paranoid lmao

i remember liking your thoughts on dya at the time fwiw spf (i did villa read you then after all)

(wish retrospective vote counts were a thing)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:50 am bleh both arete's and spf's posts on this page are setting me off so much

kinda going back to wanting spf chopped today as i did overnight

whats wrong with spfs posting on this page idgi

" if she is a wolf then this is the strongest game i've ever seen her play"

(fwiw i read all of the post - but not sure i have a huge amount of questions for you)

this is something i have been thinking. i looked at some former nutella wolf light games and a lot of them are generally worse than this though there is once decentish one in there which has increased my paranoia levels. i fear we cleared nutella too early sometimes, though hally and alison both v read her so i guess i can blame them :P )

c4s phoning it in far more than me though iyam

i will admit i am highly worried about a potential spf/dizzy/nl f3 (i always stress about f3s lol)

i think your observations re my play are fine and largely correct, i just havent had the time/mental energy to dig into the game - im quite busy with other stuff so im mostly hoping to get by at this point through credit/surface level thinking

christ did you have that shit saved or are you a fast typer

nutella why do you keep struggling to read me v

what are your lingering doubts

what about you arete, whats your 2 + you chop list given your potential death status very shortly

in any event we've talked about why x/y/z (msotly dizzy i guess?) is a villa today but we've had very little talk about wagons or who is actually going to die today

are you any closer to figuring out your potential 2 + you chop list?

i have been worried that i have set the bar too low for nutella to jump over (they especially jump from wagon to wagon and idea to idea and i guess i think i should village read that but i cant lie and say i havent been worrying about that clear)

i did give some consideration a couple days ago to just killing c4 and blaming him if you're a wolf

but perhaps thats a cop out :P

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:09 am how much of your vote on me is influenced by my vote on you, btw?

p much 0% i dont believe you actually think im a wolf and i think you just voted me to get some kind of reaction out of me (esp cause you said earlier this phase that you dont think im a wolf (slight paraphrase but you get it)

i had the reaction to your posts when i read them earlier i just didnt drop it then

"it's not a joke. c4 has never misread me in a game before. if c4 is a villager then he's misreading me for the first time ever. if c4 is a wolf then he's TMI'ing me as town. in either reality, the odds of me being town are more likely than not. i don't understand why an argument like that makes you feel "wrong" - you're gonna have to be less abstract about it"

forgive me if ive had enough of godreads for one game :P

"that's wacky. why is it wolfy for me to acknowledge that i was being widely misunderstood and that i perceived myself as a likely mischop? would you prefer that i lie about my position in the game?"

i think you overstated your position in the game a little, nutella has been the main one driving pushing you over recent times - i pushed you a bit when i was cartwheeling towards the bin, syn is dead, arete, does arete count?

maybe i am not remembering others correctly and perhaps you landed in some sort of null zone and you thought well its gonna be soon - and thats fair

i don't think any of the things i said are slam dunk cases but i did want to put them out there because people can respond to them and create some sort of dialogue

i was kinda hoping you didnt respond to my posts first lol. i wanted to see others chime in a bit first (i guess i shouldve just not replied to this but too late now, im not retyping these words)

these are like little tennis balls lobbed up into the thread waiting for someone to hit them

i mean if i think zack/nutella are villas i just have to find one more

if zack thinks dizzy is a villager i guess im okay with that

arete/c4 are in my bottom 2 and i guess its a tossup with spf/dizzy for that final spot