The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:44 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:18 pm if dyson was chopped d1 i wonder if scotty would have went deep, i just checked that he had voted for him. well he wasnt around for EoD but still
I probably dug my own grave but I tend to be suspected a lot on D1, so I’d like to think…maybe?

I at least could rest easy knowing you had my back tho

suck

maaaaaaaaaah

nutssssssssssss

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:13 pm I realize that how this went down made mech play essentially irrelevant, but do any of you have thoughts on the setup?

I was thinking that any future iteration of this setup would include a roleblocker for the wolf team.

One intention of the setup is WIFOM; I really wanted the wolf team to have the mobility to make town eat itself alive with speculation. A totally brutal D1 negated that immediately, as was the quick realization that Scotty was likely the wolf PR and that both PRs holstered N0. What was meant to be a space for fake claiming and what-ifs turned into an almost guaranteed loss scenario for Alison and Dyson.

Alison does deserve kudos for her fake spew; town had a lot of trouble seeing through it despite knowing that Alison subbed into a "losing team" and that she knew the score from the beginning. She did wonderfully, but it would have taken extreme luck on Dyson's end in order to end game.

The tie rand going against the wolves every time also sucked, though in fairness, it was w/w wagons on D1.

i thought the setup was very townsided until i realized that there's no role flips, didn't catch that part. so let me think again

so its less so but i still think its a bit townsided entirely coz mafia isn't allowed to give their power to mafia

so if mafia puts out their powers to random people, as long as everyone claims and doesn't use any power (as they should) - in the mid to late game thats 2 peeked town (potentially unless im missing something)

so to circumvent this mafia can try to get rid of their mandatory peeks by giving the night before they kill them. town might catch onto that tho / identify the sane PR

i haven't thought about this too deeply but i think that i would allow mafia more flexibility -

1) allow them to give the power to their own teammates (maybe have it so it always fail if u want?)

and/or

2) allow the PR givers to holster

and/or

3) allow them to kill and give PR to the same target on the same night

or something like that, i could be overlooking something. i just feel like the mafia PR giver feels like negative utility for mafia because the chance of it generating free town peeks for town

Dyson sphere — 08/15/2021
But maybe the town users are happy when they can convict me

that's so wholesome lmaooo

(context is syn reminding dyson he has the option to concede, dyson replies with this)

mans was looking out for our happyness

also i thought jay got the track until he said "waiting on news on motel room". it didnt even cross my mind that nanook got it. but i also didnt think TSP had it

if dyson was chopped d1 i wonder if scotty would have went deep, i just checked that he had voted for him. well he wasnt around for EoD but still

Spoiler: show

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:49 am i cant wait, im impulsive and like i feel something eating me up inside / scratching me sitting here with the 1 last post. i feel like i can't focus on my work and just think of the game. i needa post this so i can focus on doing the stuff i needa to

i wanna mention that i've played one game on lime coke's home community - i was scumreading a guy, i didn't even go ham or nothing just calmly explained why he's scum, he kept throwing tantrums and subbed out right after posting some messages that tried hard to convey a frustrated townie who's sick of being misunderstood. he was mafia. the scum meta of that home community is like that - people go ham as mafia, it is what it is. im just sharing my past experience of an event that happened in the past, a concluded game, so i believe it is okay that i'm sharing this

tutuu
mizery - towny for derping like scotty, more so
master radish - towny tone, feels iight
rondo - over the top the towny variety, also misses a lot of posts but asserts misunderstood stuff with confidence. he jus looks like an honest dude to me
scotty - town coz he messed up chronology of events. i think scum is more likely to pay more attention and read in detail, town is more likely to goof up something
axehole - same as tsp but a bit stronger
motel room - towny coz of 1 specific line i found towny
TSP - doesn't try to get townread which i think is towny

mac - null
nook - null

dunya - been so long since we played that im starting from scratch basically learning her tone and how she plays. i think it feels off. her reads are very different from mine and i think my reads are right (obviously, thats what everyone thinks) therefore i think her reads are scum-motivated. lime could have been excited to w/w with dunya and that's why he pulled that off. that said i don't think dunya is wolf together with falcon due to how much she pushed him early on. she had some lines i townread so im putting her in orange

lost monkey - gut scum coz thats what my gut told me early day 1
dyson - scummy coz i think he has TMI that motel room is town, also ignored my scumread on him
falcon - scum for previously mentioned reasons, check my iso. a few specific lines that i think are scumtells. not w/w with dunya
lime/jay - previously mentioned reasons still stand. i've no read on jay, i've never seen him scum so i can't until i do

im going to vote for falcon since that is my scumread with the most votes, and i think its unlikely people will want to chop jay day 1. that said my scumread on lime is the strongest

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

i see some people reacting to my reads the same way they reacted last game i played - uhh fargo mafia. "this is absurd", "i dont believe that u believe this", " i find this bogus" ec

thats all fine, i just dont give a daymn. i was right on so much stuff in that game, against the town consensus. i've learned the important lesson that i should trust myself more and ignore the naysayers more and desire others to find my playstyle accomodating less. there is a handful of players that i think are consistently better at me in mafia and who i'd listen to and none of them are in this game. (to be specific - hally and spf). this isnt so much to say "im better than yall" but instead to preemtively elaborate on why i will be ignoring comments who say the aforementioned quotes or smth similar, simply coz i dont think i will improve if i listen to these kinda stuff. i walk my own mafia path and do what i want yeah fam. iight peace yall

just in case u wanna chop me and u afraid if some mech will get lost coz im post capped - i will say once again that i haven't received a shot n0

i am either vanilla town or PR giver that holstered n0

now that i think of it it might be problematic that ill be post capped in case u want to chop me and i cant claim - but ... - eh, its just a game, my work and focus is more important than playing fully optmially. and besides we don't deserve any power roles in the first place, we should be able to win a 12v3 mountainous if we're above average mafia players. iight peace, im happy w this last post, iss been a very chill and fun game minus that accident and i feel happy w it. if every mafia game can be like this id definitely play more

post-post-post-post-post-post-post script: jus in case u need my assistance in some mech plan for tonight. if u need me to answer a binary question yes-no, assume i've answered "yes" or the first reponse. like basically ping me and tell me two stuff and assume i'll do the first one. idk random thought dunno if could be relevant doesnt hurt to post it

not bad, i should remind myself that a person being the counterwagon to a wolf doesnt necessarily mean anything

Well lets see

meh i could make up a reason to scumread radish to appear like im a dilligent townie Doing Her Best To Achieve Win Conditino but ill be honest guys, im feelin lazy af rn. ima just go with the flow, hell yea

i guess dyson > radish then

huh okay that's neat

wait motel claimed track on falcon?

Ends tomorrow nice

If the day ends today i wont have the time if it ends tomorrow ill find an hour or two to dedicate

im stating to get around to seeing radish being mafia (still haven't read, was just thinking over stuff)

okay im tryharding and isoing everyone

(later)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:04 pm fine nanook can be third

pleasure doing business with you

i voted alison d2 putting me lower in the poe than nook is a heinous crime and i will seek justice

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:41 pm POE is, in order:

Dyson
MR
tutuu
jay

why nanook clear?

We should assume motel room is green peeked

If he is red peeked, the tracker will claim and end the game

If he is green peeked, its better for the tracker to hide. Mafia isnt sure who the tracker is since he killed Mac last night

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

If motel room is town ill tryhard

@TonyStarkPrime why master radish bad?

Well Dyson has a lot of difficulties keeping up with what we're doing, trying to "roleswap" with him (if that was the intent) and him not picking up on it isnt his fault at all imo, twas to be expected

@MacDougall whats going on

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:51 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm @Dyson sphere please confirm youve received a track tonight and please track motel room tonight
So, I read this earlier and hesitated to respond, because earlier I was unsure if claiming a role was a good thing to do or not. And on that day I didn't have a role. Then mac said he gave me tracker. I checked my discord and inbox several times. Maybe this is a ruse. I don't know what to say.
claiming a role is good thing

at the start of day 3, did you receive a tracker?

do you currently have one or not?

you're saying "no" im gathering but you're also saying "that day", but this was this day (phase) (day 3)

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm @Dyson sphere please confirm youve received a track tonight and please track motel room tonight
So, I read this earlier and hesitated to respond, because earlier I was unsure if claiming a role was a good thing to do or not. And on that day I didn't have a role. Then mac said he gave me tracker. I checked my discord and inbox several times. Maybe this is a ruse. I don't know what to say.

claiming a role is good thing

at the start of day 3, did you receive a tracker?

do you currently have one or not?

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:12 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:30 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:36 pm Does scotty's entrance look like it could be a pocket attempt on me or am I making that up
I entered before you, goober

Also you’re probs the closest townread I have, and I don’t give town reads early often because I suck at tone reads and D1s are the bane of my existence

So yea, sure, jump in my cargo shorts
I still don’t see Mizery as a good fit with Scotty.
*Shrug*

I suppose if we want to sweep, we aught to think about it.
What does sweep mean here?

sweep as in kill all mafia three days in a row

Definitely dont track macdougall or jay theyre confirmed town

@Dyson sphere please confirm youve received a track tonight and please track motel room tonight

Thats about it

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

@Mizery so are you giving up or you still got some fight left in you? :P

i find gambling fun and in theory i think that if you can get it so there's a 50% - 50% between town and mafia you're sort of making their lives equal worth, and a mafia's life is worth that of 3 townies, so i would be happy as town to take that gamble and be unhappy as mafia to take that gamble. maybe. i dunno, this could not be a sound argument

but i think mafia are more stressed about ties than towns (if theres 1 mafia in the tie), so you could perhaps garner reactions and stuff. fun to theorize about

motel room wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:17 pm
motel room wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:11 pm misery -> motel room -> nanook -> falcon -> dyson

in this order is my list of 5
Is the me thing because of Alison's casing of me?
yes

alison hard defened misery, hard pushed you, and ignored everyone else

i think the simplest answer given the situation the mafia were, is that alison would choose to hard push her buddy instead of hard defending them or ignoring them

(that being said im choosing to hypothethically vote mizery over what i think is the simplest anwer)

also you made a post where you were like "damn, why are u all saying alison is the one who came up with the plan to push me .... it suck that yall think it was her idea xD" - that could have been an open wolf post of expression that you're disappointed that we don't think high enough of scum you to be able to come up with such a plan, and instead attributing it to alison
True, could have been. Its not but could be. Cool just checking.

If Alison's case caught traction and I was lynched and flipped town, what would you see Alison's next move being?

I don't know, try to chop another townie

motel room wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:11 pm misery -> motel room -> nanook -> falcon -> dyson

in this order is my list of 5
Is the me thing because of Alison's casing of me?

yes

alison hard defened misery, hard pushed you, and ignored everyone else

i think the simplest answer given the situation the mafia were, is that alison would choose to hard push her buddy instead of hard defending them or ignoring them

(that being said im choosing to hypothethically vote mizery over what i think is the simplest anwer)

also you made a post where you were like "damn, why are u all saying alison is the one who came up with the plan to push me .... it suck that yall think it was her idea xD" - that could have been an open wolf post of expression that you're disappointed that we don't think high enough of scum you to be able to come up with such a plan, and instead attributing it to alison

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:33 pm hm

hmmmm

mizery just gave up tho, so

compared their day 1 energy to their day 2 energy to their day 3 energy

misery -> motel room -> nanook -> falcon -> dyson

in this order is my list of 5

well my vote is on mizery in spirit, would like to avoid quick hammer

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:31 pm Why would you give me tracker I’ll just get shot

I thought mac will stick to the plan just in case but looks like he gave it to mizery or motel room

Rondo was dying tonight over mac so maybe that was alright, i was a lil paranoid that we should follow the protocol so no mech shenanigans

For isntance mafia could have killed mac over rondo tonight so he doesnt get to claim he gave tracker to them, and we wouldnt have known he switched target coz he didnt write out detailed conditions on who he will give what. Rondo gets a peek but maybe TSP gets mischopped coz we think hes hiding the tracker

Wont matter in this game but just some theoretical stuff for future games

dont hammer before mac confirms he gave tsp tracker and tsp confirms he received it pls :P

last mafia is mizery or motel room

me and the boys headed towards that sweep

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:24 pm Looks like its just me and tutuu watching the outcome

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 pm [VOTE: alison ] aubergine

Atta boy

Since people will be confused by Master's last post, let me translate:

Basically Master is saying that he thinks falcon is either town-aligned or scum-aligned. One of the two

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:20 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:18 pm Hi (sorry for scummyness)
You're looking to save alison at the last second by over posting

and i would have gotten away with it too, if it werent for you meddling kid

Hi (sorry for scummyness)

Please keep the wagons tied i think its really funny

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