The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:00 pm just in WWA's notes, not official

very well thanks for clearing that up

less of a headache now

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:59 pm She's double-checking her copy of the role.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm delta flips mafia -> poggers

delta flips 3p -> someone needs to claim if they impacted the mech situation. if not, chop scotty. if scotty flips town, we just got screwed by mech that seems beyond our control, either a wild mafia role here or impact from other thread or something bizarre. unless long con mafia. but no way long con mafia. if he's mafia that's insane
Yeah so

I’m town. If I’m wolf, how does this impact your Wilgy read, tutuu?

If you're wolf you are potentially wolves with Alexy depending on your flip and night actions. I can't say yet

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:58 pm WWA is reading

she has 2 minutes

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm delta flips mafia -> poggers

delta flips 3p -> someone needs to claim if they impacted the mech situation. if not, chop scotty. if scotty flips town, we just got screwed by mech that seems beyond our control, either a wild mafia role here or impact from other thread or something bizarre. unless long con mafia. but no way long con mafia. if he's mafia that's insane
If I had this level of funky strategy as mafia, I'd be Lex Luthor.

no doubt lmao

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:45 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.
Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?
Yeah, that is correct, but the role flipped as bus driver, apparently.
Bizarre. I did look at my role and its not labeled as anything, I just assumed it was a bus driver but I apparently am missing a gasket
oh yeah true role names aren't labeled. like jack's flip

@Long Con why did wwa claim he flipped as a bus driver? like ... did it have the name bus driver? did it not just have a description of a redirector and no label?

@Long Con

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:45 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.
Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?
Yeah, that is correct, but the role flipped as bus driver, apparently.
Bizarre. I did look at my role and its not labeled as anything, I just assumed it was a bus driver but I apparently am missing a gasket

oh yeah true role names aren't labeled. like jack's flip

@Long Con why did wwa claim he flipped as a bus driver? like ... did it have the name bus driver? did it not just have a description of a redirector and no label?

delta flips mafia -> poggers

delta flips 3p -> someone needs to claim if they impacted the mech situation. if not, chop scotty. if scotty flips town, we just got screwed by mech that seems beyond our control, either a wild mafia role here or impact from other thread or something bizarre. unless long con mafia. but no way long con mafia. if he's mafia that's insane

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:51 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm It's not like Scotty + Alexy wolf team is endgaming here, Long Con. Like there is world where they win this if they're both mafia, after you outed your information. I just think there are some worlds where flipping Delta first could be good. I wanna read his flip
Well, the good news is, you're gonna get your wish! If I die tonight, please honour my contributions.

yeah dont worry

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm It's not like Scotty + Alexy wolf team is endgaming here, Long Con. Like there is no* world where they win this if they're both mafia, after you outed your information. I just think there are some worlds where flipping Delta first could be good. I wanna read his flip

Like there is no* world

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm I thought I would be dying tonight.

Like don't worry, if you die and Delta flips 3p I'll make sure Scotty + Alexy don't endgame. They have no reason to survive

It's not like Scotty + Alexy wolf team is endgaming here, Long Con. Like there is world where they win this if they're both mafia, after you outed your information. I just think there are some worlds where flipping Delta first could be good. I wanna read his flip

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:46 pm tutuu, come on, eliminating a wolf is higher priority than eliminating a 3p.

I agree, I just really scumread Delta and townread Scotty. Socially, before this mech mess. If Delta flips 3p we can always chop Scotty tomorrow. We can discuss it. Darling Monroe should be dying tonight so we will all be alive

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:45 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.
Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?
Yeah, that is correct, but the role flipped as bus driver, apparently.

He flipped a redirector role that had a bus driver name? Lmao. Oh lord.

Well, this does check out with Scotty, maybe? Since he also claimed his redirector role as a bus driver

So this is probably on Jay for mismatching the roles lol, if this is all true

Anyway, hm. So Scotty and TSP have identical roles. TSP's counterpart was ilario. ugh.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.

Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:19 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:16 pm Mechanically Scotty looks very sus but socially imo he's obv town
I’m a walking contradiction since i entered. I’m a mess in explaining myself but I think I’ve revealed all my secrets this game now

Except my favorite sushi. You’ll never get that out of me

lmao

Mechanically Scotty looks very sus but socially imo he's obv town

Could uhhh... Mafia target people from other threads? Like TSP bus driving us here? Idk what is reality anymore

Ugh this is a headache

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:08 pm I’m protecting Long Con tonite btw

How are you protecting him? You're redirecting a person's action to someone else

bus driver + redirector is an absolute headache this sounds so unlike Jay. I suppose not impossible but damn. this is a headache to resolve and play, and Jay normally likes very simple vanilla roles afaik

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm last night I drove delta onto alexy.
Why didn't you bus drove Jack?
Hol up, I just looked up bus driver.

I’m not a bus driver. I don’t swap their roles, I just redirect one player’s target into another.

Which is even lamer than a bus driver. I’m more like a Prius driver

Alright that's different. So a redirector? Hm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:01 pm What’s trippy is if there’s ANOTHER bus driver that drove Long Con. That’s the only thing I can think of with why I wasn’t blocked.

No, bus drivers change targets, they don't redirect. Bus driving Long Con is irrelevant, nobody targeted him

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm I bus drove psv onto WWA N1

You did what?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm last night I drove delta onto alexy.

Why didn't you bus drove Jack?

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:22 pm Delta is claiming a role that is literally 20 lines long at this point. Like a whole paragraph of text.
damn its almost like a 3p isnt gonna be a simple role especially in a game with 2 separate threads

All other roles are vanilla. Mason, Watcher, Jailkeeper. You're evil. God I wanna vig you. JUST DIE

STOP RESISTING. DIE

STOP. RESISTING. DIE.

Delta is claiming a role that is literally 20 lines long at this point. Like a whole paragraph of text.

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm Thoughts from WWA:

tutuu, WWA believes that Delta really is 3p, and doubts that the mafia busdriver had access to both threads. WWA doesn't believe the wolves have a common chat, but do know the whole team's names.
I don't think Delta has access to the other thread. Why wouldn't he tell us TSP's role? He either didn't know it, or he purposefully chose to withhold info from town, despite pleading to survive. In either case, is it not mechanically confirmed he is trying to hurt town (even if he's just a 3p)?
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My name is Marry Poppins.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm I don't think Delta has access to the other thread. Why wouldn't he tell us TSP's role? He either didn't know it, or he purposefully chose to withhold info from town, despite pleading to survive. In either case, is it not mechanically confirmed he is trying to hurt town (even if he's just a 3p)?

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:57 pm I CAN ONLY DISCLOSE ALIGNMENTS ;O;

This is just nonsense lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm Thoughts from WWA:

tutuu, WWA believes that Delta really is 3p, and doubts that the mafia busdriver had access to both threads. WWA doesn't believe the wolves have a common chat, but do know the whole team's names.

I don't think Delta has access to the other thread. Why wouldn't he tell us TSP's role? He either didn't know it, or he purposefully chose to withhold info from town, despite pleading to survive. In either case, is it not mechanically confirmed he is trying to hurt town (even if he's just a 3p)?

@Scotty @DarlingMonroe @Cape90 @Lime Coke @Alexy

Please stay on Delta I'm begging, him flipping Mafia Bus Driver who transported Scotty N1 can explain the issues at hand

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Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER
I CAN ONLY DISCLOSE ALIGNMENTS ;O;

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAH

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:32 pm What is your win con? What can you tell us about the other thread?
wincon is either predict vote stuff correctly or survive to see this thread resolve. former breaks down into stuff about alignment/player/both, latter is self explanatory

the other thread is in a similar boat to us, they're just staggered by 24h. so far, robyn has been town, tsp has been mafia. i think the alignments of two bound players are linked?

LOOK AT HIM. It costed him nothing to give us TSP's role. This guy is evil

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm I'll be around all evening. [VOTE: scotty] aubergine Sorry, tutuu, just need to plant one flag.

No need to apologize you're just playing your best. I am too

Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER

@Scotty i think you should claim here as Long Con is claiming something opposing you (see above)

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:48 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 pm TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.
BUS DRIVER

WHAT

Wait Long Con what if there's a bus driver here too, and you didn't roleblock Scotty?
Possible, but I certainly couldn't keep this quiet on that slim chance.

Oh yeah of course

I'm just worried about a wild CFD at EoD and flipping a town

Can we stay on Delta please?

Entirely because we only have 2 hours. And making a rash decision now can be bad

Scotty and Alexy and Long Con can all be town if we also have a scum bus driver like TSP was

WHY IS EVERYTHING ON FIRE 2 HOURS BEFORE EOD we were supposed to happily chop Delta and hold hands and sing Kumbayah

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 pm TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.

BUS DRIVER

WHAT

Wait Long Con what if there's a bus driver here too, and you didn't roleblock Scotty?

GUYS WHAT'S HAPPENING

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!

Hold up wtf

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:12 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 pm Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao
Not me looking up the signups
I guess that would make me…like…Rondo? I

I think so too lmao

Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao

Yeah me and Alexy

I forgot to mention but actually Robyn told me that three people recrived an extra vote on D1 (after N0) in the other thread

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to

I feel like if that's a town ability town would be overloaded with power roles and abilities. In comparison to Ilario and TSP being goon, and we have no feedback of any possible mafia power role doing anything. So i'm concluding they at least have to have something, so it could be the extra votes

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:59 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,

No extra death, no fancy stuff, no nothing. Fmpov this was a lowkey mountainous game, I wasn't seeing anything happen. I didn't literally mean all of us VTs

Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.

You didn't watch Jack N2 because you believed that Scotty would be a protective role and on Jack?

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.

Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?

Wilgy is just always mafia fmpov, I think Delta first optimal, if he flips 3p we can think about who's the second one. PSV's poe seems correct is my initial reaction, Alexy and Lime Coe. I just disagree with the order, Delta first is miles better imo

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