The Syndicate

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

RNJesus gave us a wolf pelt last time, who are we to claim to know better

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:19 pm What's everyone's favorite breakfast?

It's been a fuckin crazy couple days, I burnt over 10K calories yesterday and I am famished. I'm thinking 3 eggs benny, poached medium, with a pile of fruit and shredded hashbrowns. Maybe a Crown Float to wash it down, and definitely coffee

If i had more money my ideal breakfast would be 2 or 3 scrambled eggs on a thick chunk of sourdough bread, 2 or 3 sauteed mushrooms and a handful of sauteed cherry tomatoes. A cup of cold milk

Realistically since im a student i just go for a banana or a yogurt or cereal

@Dyson sphere please its really important to say if u got a role, do u?

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:43 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:39 am
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:39 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:54 pm well I will find out if Mac is mafia tomorrow by using my power but considering there are no other claims for powers it means Scott was power role wolf mechs wise. so Mac is hard clear and if mac is hard clear I am soft? clear because I didnt throw him under the bus? Nah I am NAI at best
What if there are other players who received a role and haven't spoken up about it yet? At which point should one claim a role?
They should claim it immediately

Do u have one?
But if I had a power role wouldn't that make me a target for a night kill?

Thats good for town, we already have tons of targets that mafia wants dead

If u have received a role and depending on when u received it, u reveieved it by the Mafia. So ur role might backfire, so u shouldnt use it

But it would be nice for u to share with us if u received one, because mafia cant give role to other mafia, so we would know for sure u are town, and it would be easier for us to solve the game and decide who to chop

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:39 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:54 pm well I will find out if Mac is mafia tomorrow by using my power but considering there are no other claims for powers it means Scott was power role wolf mechs wise. so Mac is hard clear and if mac is hard clear I am soft? clear because I didnt throw him under the bus? Nah I am NAI at best
What if there are other players who received a role and haven't spoken up about it yet? At which point should one claim a role?

They should claim it immediately

Do u have one?

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:35 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:19 pm My reads haven't really changed. I continue to feel comfortable with my POE ordering and nothing has made me question my townclears. My legacy is clear, and I think it's also fairly uncontroversial: go motel first, then TSP, then nanook, then Axe/Falcon and you should win. Kill me to assuage your doubts if you must; we have space for an extra misexe if both scum are contained in those five names. Reasses at LyLo in case it's MR slipping past the cracks or something, but until then I feel that this game is going in the right direction and should be kept on rails. A mafia died D1 and left behind clear spew and clear wagonomics; we should play properly based on that. Don't let people in the POE cause chaos or try to open it up with tinfoil and shade-throwing on townie but framable slots like Mizery or MR before LyLo. Don't ever leave motel alive past D3 if you kill me.
Wagonomics, lol, you guys have this game down like a science. But like players who are mafia can also vote for lynching fellow mafia players. Is this a likely scenario or an unlikely scenario? How can you tell?

Yeah fam we nerds play this for years and years hahah

Even chess got (mostly) solved by computers

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:21 am @MacDougall just to be 100% safe in case neither falcon nor tsp is chopped can u say who ur giving tracker to?

Nvm its TSP i just woke up

@MacDougall just to be 100% safe in case neither falcon nor tsp is chopped can u say who ur giving tracker to?

Its f5 on day 6 not f3 but yeah everything else the same

Basically dont use ur track on n3 coz more chance to use it later when only 1 maf alive

@falcon45ca @TonyStarkPrime iight so one of u receiving tracker tonight and u can use it starting next night

U shouldnt immediately use it if we chop town today and tomorrow, coz

We want u to die, thats why u get the tracker

If ur town, and u use ur tracks too fast, and u miss, mafia wont have to kill u, and ur back in the PoE and thats not good for town

So i think ideally you use ur second track on the night before f3, which hopefully gets u night killed

Lemme calculate....

Worst case scenario we chop 4 town in a row and enter f3 on day 6

So use ur tracks on n4 and n5

Unless we chop a mafia earlier, then immediately start using them

I think thats the optimal plan layout

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:23 am i will give the tracker to tsp fine

iight bet

If we chop / cfd TSP today then who u givin to?

Oh night kills are mandatory

What if a wolf gets a doctor and protects the kill from the other wolf

Or the last wolf gets the doctor and protects and attacks the same person om the same night

That sounds funny but they can get deep like that

So yeah i would give tracker @MacDougall cuz

If a wolf gets a doctor they can stop their kill and claim to be a hero

If a wolf gets a tracker they can just claim a random peek

But since tracker is 2 shot if we chop mafia today or tomorrow, one or both of those tracks will become a cop peek (even if mafia they will have to claim that cop peek)

And the potential for town doing good stuff with tracker is better than doctors

@MacDougall can u publicly write a post with instructions jus so we know, like, for example

If we flip falcon mafia i give tracker to TSP

If we flip falcon town i give doctor/tracker to alison etc

(If mafia can holster their kills giving doctor might be pointless lemme check)

U can also give it to a upper poe hard to read slot like me if u want

But def not jay ;-;

I guess ill vote here for now

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

motel room wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:57 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:52 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.

Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.

Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.
I scumread alison and im convinced shes ww with motel room, somehow i townread TSP for his chillax attitude
Really? You went from Pepe Silvia crazy theory to convinced pretty quick. But fair enough, I'm not doubting you too hard today.

Pepe Silvia was pretty convinced

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:06 pm Mizery dumbtelled D1 and then refused credit for it. I have seen mafia do this to strengthen townreads. (I myself did it in Buckets. I was town there, though.) Is Mizery the kind of person to do that? I don't get the sense he is. He doesn't seem like a tryhard wolf who spends all his days thinking of sneaky ways to humiliate the town. I believe the dumbtell is NAI - mafia can be clueless about the setup, too - but I am inclined to take "aw, shucks, you shouldn't be clearing me for something like that" reaction at face value.

This post also looks good for Mizery:

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:30 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:36 pm Does scotty's entrance look like it could be a pocket attempt on me or am I making that up
I entered before you, goober

Also you’re probs the closest townread I have, and I don’t give town reads early often because I suck at tone reads and D1s are the bane of my existence

So yea, sure, jump in my cargo shorts
This looks like a pocket, not a partner.

Between the dumbtell reaction and Scotty's spew, as well as my earlier point about their EOD, I am content with my Mizery clear.

Ehh aLrightt finee

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm I mean Dunia/dya is a weird choice for a doc dodge
this kill literally means never let Jay win at lylo and not a single thing else
Eh, dya has a pretty good reputation and mafia presumably knew they were killing her, not Dunia, so I think in this case it doesn't necessarily mean that

That being said I think you should give Jay a thing tonight. Just to be safe.

What no give to PoE @MacDougall and say who u givig to

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.

Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.

Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.

I scumread alison and im convinced shes ww with motel room, somehow i townread TSP for his chillax attitude

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:54 pm well I will find out if Mac is mafia tomorrow by using my power but considering there are no other claims for powers it means Scott was power role wolf mechs wise. so Mac is hard clear and if mac is hard clear I am soft? clear because I didnt throw him under the bus? Nah I am NAI at best

no dont check mac lol

he is only mafia pr giver if dunya was town pr giver. but even if dunya was town pr giver, she would have been forced to give someone a pr. noone claimed it. she said it herself she didnt give it to anyone. also mac claiming is risky af as mafia

he's jus town, dw about it. use your power on people in the poe pls

alison and TSP i think are the consensus scumreads that noone towneads. pls check one of them

well u are dying tonight so it shouldnt matter but just for protocols sake

Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:55 pm I can't read tutuu scum for just shitposting sometimes because I do that but I'd need to go back and look at when it went from

> kill alison, kill motel room

to

> kill alison, kill misery/motel

because I just saw it happen after Axe expressed interest in killing me tomorrow or whatnot but I'd have to look back on that tbh

ur mafia

my reads are aligned with axehole's

i think the team is 2/3 from alison, mizery, motel room

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:50 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:44 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:16 pm I know Mac has the ovaries to pull off a fake claim and all that, but it would be a bit...useless?...to claim giving Rondo a role knowing it would be denied. It achieves little for his hypothetical scum team.

Mac is just 'shrug, probs town' until we have anything more to go off of, imo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm ok so...

maybe rondo is a wolf here and reacted like this because he's got no idea how to play this game
I indeed did get a role cop option made available night 1 for night 2, I have two shots and I wanted to see who would try to swing votes in either my or Macs direction.

Considering wolves are hard up would they try to use this as an option to chop myself or mac

or do they know that I am trying to trap them and not saying anything? Do you see TMI in any of these posts?

Could Mac be lying about giving the role? Unlikely since he claimed who he gave it to and what exactly he gave.
since nobody else claimed to have received a role it was safe the assume the mafia PR giver was dead (scotty) so traps or reaction tests or stuff werent really necessary but yeah, good to know fam
If I want to pull off an elaborate and ultimately useless trap I am going to and it will be so complicated that even I wont know the answers of the results.

hahahah i repect it fam <3

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:44 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:16 pm I know Mac has the ovaries to pull off a fake claim and all that, but it would be a bit...useless?...to claim giving Rondo a role knowing it would be denied. It achieves little for his hypothetical scum team.

Mac is just 'shrug, probs town' until we have anything more to go off of, imo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm ok so...

maybe rondo is a wolf here and reacted like this because he's got no idea how to play this game
I indeed did get a role cop option made available night 1 for night 2, I have two shots and I wanted to see who would try to swing votes in either my or Macs direction.

Considering wolves are hard up would they try to use this as an option to chop myself or mac

or do they know that I am trying to trap them and not saying anything? Do you see TMI in any of these posts?

Could Mac be lying about giving the role? Unlikely since he claimed who he gave it to and what exactly he gave.

since nobody else claimed to have received a role it was safe the assume the mafia PR giver was dead (scotty) so traps or reaction tests or stuff werent really necessary but yeah, good to know fam

dyson and rondo do be trollin

games with day 1 wolf chops are often lost in a silly way

i think we ahead but i cant say im confident we win at f3

mizery is scummy af man look at their day 2 postings yeah

BUILT. DIFFERENT.

twas her first squat since 2019 hell yea boi my girl is a PROBLEM she a PRRRRRRRRRRROBLEM

@MacDougall my gf just squatted 102 kg / 225 lbs LETS GET THIS BREAD

just pedantism ignore

and it's 2-shot

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:56 am @MacDougall please confirm or deny that you sent an ability to Rondo on Night 0.

@RondoDimBuckle please confirm or deny that you received an ability on Night 0. This doesn't mean your role itself which would still be vanilla, it means a special one-time ability.

Please and thank you. Don't worry about hiding information from the mafia, because that's meaningless to me.

N1 but yeah

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:52 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:50 am Did we deal with the mech bs yet
I don't understand why we care
Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

mac is the PR giver, he gave the cop to rondo

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:50 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:47 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:26 am Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.
hmmm

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine
This doesn’t make sense, because it establishes a world where Alison can gain town cred, where in my view she can’t. Order matters in mafia because people have a real hard time sticking to a plan.

if we chop alison first motel room can gain towncred and slip between us

only 1 villager will be dead between now and day 3, the rest of us are still here, we can still stick to the plan

i dont think wolf alison can win after bussing motel room

i think that if alison is w/w with motel room, her plan was to push him, get herself chopped, and try to give him towncred. since starting this day phase, motel room didn't look bad compared to alot of other people. and if she was mafia she knew how bad her slot looked

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:26 am Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.

hmmm

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:13 am I think the correct play is to kill Alison, then sheep her read on Motel Room regardless of flip.

i was thinking the same thing lmao

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:49 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:47 am What's the lie falcon told?
Oh wait, was the lie that he suggested he lost his vote when he didn't?

I think he just used the wrong english tense and meant that he would have lost his vote if he went over, but made it sound as if he did

Wait really? iirc he had 100 posts i checked the thread thingy. Lemme peep

Okay hear me out

What if its alison + motel room and she told him "ayy man its rough, we needa bus each other, send the survivor deep and hope to win, aint no way we surviving by defending or ignoring each other"

That said iss cool if u chop TSP and im not suggesting mizery to be chopped early. Just throwin out my reads there, doesnt mean iss necessarily correct to make large change in course

Mizery feels really scummy to me based off day talk / how safe they are staying. The d1 wagon situation make them look towny but if u ignore that and i think they have a self-preservation agenda

TSP feels scummy so i think hes town

I think falcon is towny for referencing host communication. I skimmed the OP and theres no rules against it so oh well

motel room wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:38 pm I asked Syn what was the repercussion of posting beyond the cap, and was handcuffed by losing my vote. I asked for a 10 post forgiveness and was told no.
So it wasnt a coin flip that killed Scotty, your vote didnt count?

Was anybody else aware of this at the end of the day? I didnt see it mentioned.

He made 100 posts d1 so his vote counted

Man whats going on with the PR stuff...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:38 pm Throughout Day 1 Tony said basically nothing of consequence to or about Dyson or Scotty. He hard defended falcon on Day 1. He less-hard defended me.

Those were the wagons.

@TonyStarkPrime why Dyson?

idk

Tsp town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:26 pm Those who fail to obey my commands will be subjected to serious consequences, such as those that follow:

Spoiler: show
peepee poopoo

dont wanna hear anyone talkin back or imma let u taste these hands

everyone SHUSH yall better be obedient and do as i say mhm yeah

its falcon + alison i know best yall dont know as much as i do yeah

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